Guest guest Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 Hi,newbie here to your group.I have a child who rec'd the recombivax at birth.This is a recombinant dna hepB vaccine made on a base of genetically modified yeast of saccharomyces cerevisiae.From the research I have done and the questions I have asked to docs in the know,a partial virus cell is used to make this. However if a whole cell virus was used it could cause an auto-immune response in the childs body. The PDR states that this vaccine changes the signalling pathways of the host recipients body.Also that over 100 different peptides in the body converged on each viral cell. Now I am not a doctor or have any medical degrees of any kind but in trying to piece this together, I think the reason why the kids do so well on enzymes and amino acids is because the part of the immune system that handles these was disturbed and the proteins depleted.I also think it caused the kids to possibly have molecular mimicry and that it involves the yeast and the protein and the viruses.Now the reason I am mentioning all this is because some of you have mentioned that some of the kids are not doing well on the rna supplements. There is saccharomyces listed on the ingredient label and maybe the kids are getting an allergic response to it.In talking to a doctor of toxicology years ago,he mentioned that under certain conditions,saccharomyces can mutate from a yeast to a bacteria( and probably a virus too because they are such a hitchhiking group.I personally give my child garlic, olive leaf and monolaurin with bromelain to get rid of the viruses.He has had a rash for years. It is the sandpaper rash lots of you describe I think it is staph aureus which has mutated from the saccharomyces. Can anyone shed some light on any of what I theorise? R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 I can't speak specifically about the recombivax, since I know nothing about it.. but in speaking generally I believe I have some similar theroys. I believe the toxins in the vaccines, foods and the environment put in our children who may have a genetic susceptibility of impaired detoxification and autoimmunity combined with live viruses that are at that point unable to managed by the child, then cause the a constant strain on the body to try to create proper antibodies, fight the virus, detox the body, run the immune system, manage digestion, manage growth and brain function, etc... is just too much and these children are chronically ill because of it. I believe there is a bacterial/fungal/viral connection. I believe they cohabitate for reasons we have not yet totally discovered. I wouldn't be suprised if metals helps the cohabitation for reasons beyond just the chronic strain on the metabolism and the immune system. I do believe there is probably molecular mimicry going on and I think toxins/metals and viruses (and the condition of the gut) are at the center of it. Wow, I feel like I blanked out for a second. What was I saying? (stepping down from the soap box).... Anyway , I think you found a home for your beliefs. Welcome. - Stan > > Hi,newbie here to your group.I have a child who rec'd the recombivax > at birth.This is a recombinant dna hepB vaccine made on a base of > genetically modified yeast of saccharomyces cerevisiae.From the > research I have done and the questions I have asked to docs in the > know,a partial virus cell is used to make this. However if a whole > cell virus was used it could cause an auto-immune response in the > childs body. The PDR states that this vaccine changes the signalling > pathways of the host recipients body.Also that over 100 different > peptides in the body converged on each viral cell. Now I am not a > doctor or have any medical degrees of any kind but in trying to > piece this together, I think the reason why the kids do so well on > enzymes and amino acids is because the part of the immune system > that handles these was disturbed and the proteins depleted.I also > think it caused the kids to possibly have molecular mimicry and that > it involves the yeast and the protein and the viruses.Now the reason > I am mentioning all this is because some of you have mentioned that > some of the kids are not doing well on the rna supplements. There is > saccharomyces listed on the ingredient label and maybe the kids are > getting an allergic response to it.In talking to a doctor of > toxicology years ago,he mentioned that under certain > conditions,saccharomyces can mutate from a yeast to a bacteria( and > probably a virus too because they are such a hitchhiking group.I > personally give my child garlic, olive leaf and monolaurin with > bromelain to get rid of the viruses.He has had a rash for years. It > is the sandpaper rash lots of you describe I think it is staph > aureus which has mutated from the saccharomyces. Can anyone shed > some light on any of what I theorise? > R > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 I can't speak specifically about the recombivax, since I know nothing about it.. but in speaking generally I believe I have some similar theroys. I believe the toxins in the vaccines, foods and the environment put in our children who may have a genetic susceptibility of impaired detoxification and autoimmunity combined with live viruses that are at that point unable to managed by the child, then cause the a constant strain on the body to try to create proper antibodies, fight the virus, detox the body, run the immune system, manage digestion, manage growth and brain function, etc... is just too much and these children are chronically ill because of it. I believe there is a bacterial/fungal/viral connection. I believe they cohabitate for reasons we have not yet totally discovered. I wouldn't be suprised if metals helps the cohabitation for reasons beyond just the chronic strain on the metabolism and the immune system. I do believe there is probably molecular mimicry going on and I think toxins/metals and viruses (and the condition of the gut) are at the center of it. Wow, I feel like I blanked out for a second. What was I saying? (stepping down from the soap box).... Anyway , I think you found a home for your beliefs. Welcome. - Stan > > Hi,newbie here to your group.I have a child who rec'd the recombivax > at birth.This is a recombinant dna hepB vaccine made on a base of > genetically modified yeast of saccharomyces cerevisiae.From the > research I have done and the questions I have asked to docs in the > know,a partial virus cell is used to make this. However if a whole > cell virus was used it could cause an auto-immune response in the > childs body. The PDR states that this vaccine changes the signalling > pathways of the host recipients body.Also that over 100 different > peptides in the body converged on each viral cell. Now I am not a > doctor or have any medical degrees of any kind but in trying to > piece this together, I think the reason why the kids do so well on > enzymes and amino acids is because the part of the immune system > that handles these was disturbed and the proteins depleted.I also > think it caused the kids to possibly have molecular mimicry and that > it involves the yeast and the protein and the viruses.Now the reason > I am mentioning all this is because some of you have mentioned that > some of the kids are not doing well on the rna supplements. There is > saccharomyces listed on the ingredient label and maybe the kids are > getting an allergic response to it.In talking to a doctor of > toxicology years ago,he mentioned that under certain > conditions,saccharomyces can mutate from a yeast to a bacteria( and > probably a virus too because they are such a hitchhiking group.I > personally give my child garlic, olive leaf and monolaurin with > bromelain to get rid of the viruses.He has had a rash for years. It > is the sandpaper rash lots of you describe I think it is staph > aureus which has mutated from the saccharomyces. Can anyone shed > some light on any of what I theorise? > R > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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