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I came across the following tonight and although it doesn't apply to all I

thought it would be interesting to many.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3132764/pdf/gbq094.pdf

Associations Between Cognitive Function and Naturally Occurring Daily Cortisol

During Middle Adulthood: Timing Is Everything

It will certainly give me something to talk about at my appointment next week!

Maybe I can educate her too!

Dr. Grim, this raises a bunch of questions. I'm not sure how the Pituitary

decides how much Cortisol to request. Is it possible that the excess being

produced by the adenoma is taken into consideration so the " normal process " is

lessened during the day? (This might explain why 24h tests come in normal.) I

guess another question might be with the AVS. As I understand it the overactive

adrenal causes the other adrenal to " shut down " so you have to allow time for it

to " awaken " sometimes. Is that true for Cortisol also? Would that explain

excess Cortisol from that side also?

I have also come up with theory why sub clinical Cortisol shows up on the late

night tests: The pituitary does its job and shuts down Cortisol but the adenoma

doesn't get the message (or is so damn independent) that it just keeps pumping

it out!

Plenty of questions, observations/answers appreciated!

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Maybe it you look at the cause for cushion's syndrome it will give you more

information.

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> I came across the following tonight and although it doesn't apply to all I

thought it would be interesting to many.

>

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3132764/pdf/gbq094.pdf

> Associations Between Cognitive Function and Naturally Occurring Daily Cortisol

During Middle Adulthood: Timing Is Everything

>

> It will certainly give me something to talk about at my appointment next week!

Maybe I can educate her too!

>

> Dr. Grim, this raises a bunch of questions. I'm not sure how the Pituitary

decides how much Cortisol to request. Is it possible that the excess being

produced by the adenoma is taken into consideration so the " normal process " is

lessened during the day? (This might explain why 24h tests come in normal.) I

guess another question might be with the AVS. As I understand it the overactive

adrenal causes the other adrenal to " shut down " so you have to allow time for it

to " awaken " sometimes. Is that true for Cortisol also? Would that explain

excess Cortisol from that side also?

>

> I have also come up with theory why sub clinical Cortisol shows up on the

late night tests: The pituitary does its job and shuts down Cortisol but the

adenoma doesn't get the message (or is so damn independent) that it just keeps

pumping it out!

>

> Plenty of questions, observations/answers appreciated!

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Can look at this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cushing's_syndrome

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> > I came across the following tonight and although it doesn't apply to all I

thought it would be interesting to many.

> >

> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3132764/pdf/gbq094.pdf

> > Associations Between Cognitive Function and Naturally Occurring Daily

Cortisol During Middle Adulthood: Timing Is Everything

> >

> > It will certainly give me something to talk about at my appointment next

week! Maybe I can educate her too!

> >

> > Dr. Grim, this raises a bunch of questions. I'm not sure how the Pituitary

decides how much Cortisol to request. Is it possible that the excess being

produced by the adenoma is taken into consideration so the " normal process " is

lessened during the day? (This might explain why 24h tests come in normal.) I

guess another question might be with the AVS. As I understand it the overactive

adrenal causes the other adrenal to " shut down " so you have to allow time for it

to " awaken " sometimes. Is that true for Cortisol also? Would that explain

excess Cortisol from that side also?

> >

> > I have also come up with theory why sub clinical Cortisol shows up on the

late night tests: The pituitary does its job and shuts down Cortisol but the

adenoma doesn't get the message (or is so damn independent) that it just keeps

pumping it out!

> >

> > Plenty of questions, observations/answers appreciated!

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First, as I have stated before I have very low trust of Wikipedia unless an

expert like Dr. Grim refers me there. Trust me, I can make it say pretty much

anything I want!

As for more info as to what is causing it, in my case I think I have a pretty

good handle on it. It is caused by an adrenal adenoma that is producing excess

cortisol. I'm not sure that the excess cortisol is causing as much problem as

the timing of it. There are many good researchers looking at it currently and

maggiekat7 and I are validating their research!

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> > > I came across the following tonight and although it doesn't apply to all I

thought it would be interesting to many.

> > >

> > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3132764/pdf/gbq094.pdf

> > > Associations Between Cognitive Function and Naturally Occurring Daily

Cortisol During Middle Adulthood: Timing Is Everything

> > >

> > > It will certainly give me something to talk about at my appointment next

week! Maybe I can educate her too!

> > >

> > > Dr. Grim, this raises a bunch of questions. I'm not sure how the

Pituitary decides how much Cortisol to request. Is it possible that the excess

being produced by the adenoma is taken into consideration so the " normal

process " is lessened during the day? (This might explain why 24h tests come in

normal.) I guess another question might be with the AVS. As I understand it

the overactive adrenal causes the other adrenal to " shut down " so you have to

allow time for it to " awaken " sometimes. Is that true for Cortisol also? Would

that explain excess Cortisol from that side also?

> > >

> > > I have also come up with theory why sub clinical Cortisol shows up on the

late night tests: The pituitary does its job and shuts down Cortisol but the

adenoma doesn't get the message (or is so damn independent) that it just keeps

pumping it out!

> > >

> > > Plenty of questions, observations/answers appreciated!

> > >

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In general if a tumor produces cortisol it usually does it all the time thus losing the diurnal variation. At least once the tumor produces more cortisol than your normal 24 hr production. Similar to concept of early PA. ONCE cortisol production from tumor exceeds your usual production then DV IS LOST. IF tumor is driven by ACTH THEN cortisol may fluctuate as ACTH DOES. Again this will cycle early on. ACTH. IF ACTH is coming from say a lung tumor then less likely to fluctuate also. May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Jul 27, 2012, at 10:05, <jclark24p@...> wrote:

First, as I have stated before I have very low trust of Wikipedia unless an expert like Dr. Grim refers me there. Trust me, I can make it say pretty much anything I want!

As for more info as to what is causing it, in my case I think I have a pretty good handle on it. It is caused by an adrenal adenoma that is producing excess cortisol. I'm not sure that the excess cortisol is causing as much problem as the timing of it. There are many good researchers looking at it currently and maggiekat7 and I are validating their research!

> > >

> > > I came across the following tonight and although it doesn't apply to all I thought it would be interesting to many.

> > >

> > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3132764/pdf/gbq094.pdf

> > > Associations Between Cognitive Function and Naturally Occurring Daily Cortisol During Middle Adulthood: Timing Is Everything

> > >

> > > It will certainly give me something to talk about at my appointment next week! Maybe I can educate her too!

> > >

> > > Dr. Grim, this raises a bunch of questions. I'm not sure how the Pituitary decides how much Cortisol to request. Is it possible that the excess being produced by the adenoma is taken into consideration so the "normal process" is lessened during the day? (This might explain why 24h tests come in normal.) I guess another question might be with the AVS. As I understand it the overactive adrenal causes the other adrenal to "shut down" so you have to allow time for it to "awaken" sometimes. Is that true for Cortisol also? Would that explain excess Cortisol from that side also?

> > >

> > > I have also come up with theory why sub clinical Cortisol shows up on the late night tests: The pituitary does its job and shuts down Cortisol but the adenoma doesn't get the message (or is so damn independent) that it just keeps pumping it out!

> > >

> > > Plenty of questions, observations/answers appreciated!

> > >

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That is exactly why I thought the midnight durinal cortisol test picks it up.

I spent half an hour on the phone with the PTN Advocate yesterday and expect I

will be getting more info from Dr. Stratakis. She thought she should hire me as

a consultant! (Reminded me in business when we had consultants come in and they

introduced themselves. " Hi, I've got 3 years experience, I've got 7 years,

etc.) I'm sitting there with 29 years and nobody even asked me! One

interviewed me and wanted to know if I could produce a list of people who and

the number of voice messages each had. When I asked her what she was going to

do with the info she said the people that had messages were being ineffecient.

I took her to the tele. room and offered to shut the system down and that would

make everyone effecient! (Of course they would have to rehire ~50 secretaries

and assistants!) God I love consultants! I could tell more but I got

frustrated enough that I took early retirement!

They had consulted at the largest hospital in Vermont before they came to us.

They did a lot of " cost cutting " there and then had a rough 2-4 years

restaffing, it's called " brain drain " ! Rant over!

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> > > > > I came across the following tonight and although it doesn't apply to

all I thought it would be interesting to many.

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3132764/pdf/gbq094.pdf

> > > > > Associations Between Cognitive Function and Naturally Occurring Daily

Cortisol During Middle Adulthood: Timing Is Everything

> > > > >

> > > > > It will certainly give me something to talk about at my appointment

next week! Maybe I can educate her too!

> > > > >

> > > > > Dr. Grim, this raises a bunch of questions. I'm not sure how the

Pituitary decides how much Cortisol to request. Is it possible that the excess

being produced by the adenoma is taken into consideration so the " normal

process " is lessened during the day? (This might explain why 24h tests come in

normal.) I guess another question might be with the AVS. As I understand it the

overactive adrenal causes the other adrenal to " shut down " so you have to allow

time for it to " awaken " sometimes. Is that true for Cortisol also? Would that

explain excess Cortisol from that side also?

> > > > >

> > > > > I have also come up with theory why sub clinical Cortisol shows up on

the late night tests: The pituitary does its job and shuts down Cortisol but the

adenoma doesn't get the message (or is so damn independent) that it just keeps

pumping it out!

> > > > >

> > > > > Plenty of questions, observations/answers appreciated!

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Picks it up earlier. May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Jul 27, 2012, at 11:09, <jclark24p@...> wrote:

That is exactly why I thought the midnight durinal cortisol test picks it up.

I spent half an hour on the phone with the PTN Advocate yesterday and expect I will be getting more info from Dr. Stratakis. She thought she should hire me as a consultant! (Reminded me in business when we had consultants come in and they introduced themselves. "Hi, I've got 3 years experience, I've got 7 years, etc.) I'm sitting there with 29 years and nobody even asked me! One interviewed me and wanted to know if I could produce a list of people who and the number of voice messages each had. When I asked her what she was going to do with the info she said the people that had messages were being ineffecient. I took her to the tele. room and offered to shut the system down and that would make everyone effecient! (Of course they would have to rehire ~50 secretaries and assistants!) God I love consultants! I could tell more but I got frustrated enough that I took early retirement!

They had consulted at the largest hospital in Vermont before they came to us. They did a lot of "cost cutting" there and then had a rough 2-4 years restaffing, it's called "brain drain"! Rant over!

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> > > > > I came across the following tonight and although it doesn't apply to all I thought it would be interesting to many.

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3132764/pdf/gbq094.pdf

> > > > > Associations Between Cognitive Function and Naturally Occurring Daily Cortisol During Middle Adulthood: Timing Is Everything

> > > > >

> > > > > It will certainly give me something to talk about at my appointment next week! Maybe I can educate her too!

> > > > >

> > > > > Dr. Grim, this raises a bunch of questions. I'm not sure how the Pituitary decides how much Cortisol to request. Is it possible that the excess being produced by the adenoma is taken into consideration so the "normal process" is lessened during the day? (This might explain why 24h tests come in normal.) I guess another question might be with the AVS. As I understand it the overactive adrenal causes the other adrenal to "shut down" so you have to allow time for it to "awaken" sometimes. Is that true for Cortisol also? Would that explain excess Cortisol from that side also?

> > > > >

> > > > > I have also come up with theory why sub clinical Cortisol shows up on the late night tests: The pituitary does its job and shuts down Cortisol but the adenoma doesn't get the message (or is so damn independent) that it just keeps pumping it out!

> > > > >

> > > > > Plenty of questions, observations/answers appreciated!

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Can start with what is on Wikipedia and then see if there information is right

by checking other sources.

> > > >

> > > > I came across the following tonight and although it doesn't apply to all

I thought it would be interesting to many.

> > > >

> > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3132764/pdf/gbq094.pdf

> > > > Associations Between Cognitive Function and Naturally Occurring Daily

Cortisol During Middle Adulthood: Timing Is Everything

> > > >

> > > > It will certainly give me something to talk about at my appointment next

week! Maybe I can educate her too!

> > > >

> > > > Dr. Grim, this raises a bunch of questions. I'm not sure how the

Pituitary decides how much Cortisol to request. Is it possible that the excess

being produced by the adenoma is taken into consideration so the " normal

process " is lessened during the day? (This might explain why 24h tests come in

normal.) I guess another question might be with the AVS. As I understand it

the overactive adrenal causes the other adrenal to " shut down " so you have to

allow time for it to " awaken " sometimes. Is that true for Cortisol also? Would

that explain excess Cortisol from that side also?

> > > >

> > > > I have also come up with theory why sub clinical Cortisol shows up on

the late night tests: The pituitary does its job and shuts down Cortisol but

the adenoma doesn't get the message (or is so damn independent) that it just

keeps pumping it out!

> > > >

> > > > Plenty of questions, observations/answers appreciated!

> > > >

> > > > ….

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Can COPD increase cortisol?

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> > > > > I came across the following tonight and although it doesn't apply to

all I thought it would be interesting to many.

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3132764/pdf/gbq094.pdf

> > > > > Associations Between Cognitive Function and Naturally Occurring Daily

Cortisol During Middle Adulthood: Timing Is Everything

> > > > >

> > > > > It will certainly give me something to talk about at my appointment

next week! Maybe I can educate her too!

> > > > >

> > > > > Dr. Grim, this raises a bunch of questions. I'm not sure how the

Pituitary decides how much Cortisol to request. Is it possible that the excess

being produced by the adenoma is taken into consideration so the " normal

process " is lessened during the day? (This might explain why 24h tests come in

normal.) I guess another question might be with the AVS. As I understand it the

overactive adrenal causes the other adrenal to " shut down " so you have to allow

time for it to " awaken " sometimes. Is that true for Cortisol also? Would that

explain excess Cortisol from that side also?

> > > > >

> > > > > I have also come up with theory why sub clinical Cortisol shows up on

the late night tests: The pituitary does its job and shuts down Cortisol but the

adenoma doesn't get the message (or is so damn independent) that it just keeps

pumping it out!

> > > > >

> > > > > Plenty of questions, observations/answers appreciated!

> > > > >

> > > > > ….

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Hmmm. JC I though you would say go to HTN PRIMER. May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Jul 27, 2012, at 14:58, Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA <georgewbill@...> wrote:

Can start with what is on Wikipedia and then see if there information is right by checking other sources.

> > > >

> > > > I came across the following tonight and although it doesn't apply to all I thought it would be interesting to many.

> > > >

> > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3132764/pdf/gbq094.pdf

> > > > Associations Between Cognitive Function and Naturally Occurring Daily Cortisol During Middle Adulthood: Timing Is Everything

> > > >

> > > > It will certainly give me something to talk about at my appointment next week! Maybe I can educate her too!

> > > >

> > > > Dr. Grim, this raises a bunch of questions. I'm not sure how the Pituitary decides how much Cortisol to request. Is it possible that the excess being produced by the adenoma is taken into consideration so the "normal process" is lessened during the day? (This might explain why 24h tests come in normal.) I guess another question might be with the AVS. As I understand it the overactive adrenal causes the other adrenal to "shut down" so you have to allow time for it to "awaken" sometimes. Is that true for Cortisol also? Would that explain excess Cortisol from that side also?

> > > >

> > > > I have also come up with theory why sub clinical Cortisol shows up on the late night tests: The pituitary does its job and shuts down Cortisol but the adenoma doesn't get the message (or is so damn independent) that it just keeps pumping it out!

> > > >

> > > > Plenty of questions, observations/answers appreciated!

> > > >

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YesMay your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Jul 27, 2012, at 15:00, Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA <georgewbill@...> wrote:

Can COPD increase cortisol?

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> > > > > I came across the following tonight and although it doesn't apply to all I thought it would be interesting to many.

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3132764/pdf/gbq094.pdf

> > > > > Associations Between Cognitive Function and Naturally Occurring Daily Cortisol During Middle Adulthood: Timing Is Everything

> > > > >

> > > > > It will certainly give me something to talk about at my appointment next week! Maybe I can educate her too!

> > > > >

> > > > > Dr. Grim, this raises a bunch of questions. I'm not sure how the Pituitary decides how much Cortisol to request. Is it possible that the excess being produced by the adenoma is taken into consideration so the "normal process" is lessened during the day? (This might explain why 24h tests come in normal.) I guess another question might be with the AVS. As I understand it the overactive adrenal causes the other adrenal to "shut down" so you have to allow time for it to "awaken" sometimes. Is that true for Cortisol also? Would that explain excess Cortisol from that side also?

> > > > >

> > > > > I have also come up with theory why sub clinical Cortisol shows up on the late night tests: The pituitary does its job and shuts down Cortisol but the adenoma doesn't get the message (or is so damn independent) that it just keeps pumping it out!

> > > > >

> > > > > Plenty of questions, observations/answers appreciated!

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I could also start at the local bar! I usually have something I want to know

about and I find Pubmed is a good resource and am successful some of the time.

That method works for me and I'm sure others have their methods.

> > > > >

> > > > > I came across the following tonight and although it doesn't apply to

all I thought it would be interesting to many.

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3132764/pdf/gbq094.pdf

> > > > > Associations Between Cognitive Function and Naturally Occurring Daily

Cortisol During Middle Adulthood: Timing Is Everything

> > > > >

> > > > > It will certainly give me something to talk about at my appointment

next week! Maybe I can educate her too!

> > > > >

> > > > > Dr. Grim, this raises a bunch of questions. I'm not sure how the

Pituitary decides how much Cortisol to request. Is it possible that the excess

being produced by the adenoma is taken into consideration so the " normal

process " is lessened during the day? (This might explain why 24h tests come in

normal.) I guess another question might be with the AVS. As I understand it

the overactive adrenal causes the other adrenal to " shut down " so you have to

allow time for it to " awaken " sometimes. Is that true for Cortisol also? Would

that explain excess Cortisol from that side also?

> > > > >

> > > > > I have also come up with theory why sub clinical Cortisol shows up on

the late night tests: The pituitary does its job and shuts down Cortisol but

the adenoma doesn't get the message (or is so damn independent) that it just

keeps pumping it out!

> > > > >

> > > > > Plenty of questions, observations/answers appreciated!

> > > > >

> > > > > ….

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I do use HTN primer to look up how to treat something but I am beyond that point

for most of what I'm looking up. It is also more difficult and time consuming

because it is paper. Also may be a little dated because a lot of the info

around subclinical cortisol is just being developed and published. I also

sometimes follow the references in an article. ie, Two of the authors of the

article I just referenced today were from Brandeis University, a research

university in Waltham, MA. That website led me to a Master's Thesis which

helped me understand how things work together. The advantage with this is that

since it is a PDF file I can search for key words like " cortisol " !

Every researcher has their own methodology and the rel trich is to seperate fact

from fiction!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I came across the following tonight and although it doesn't apply to

all I thought it would be interesting to many.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3132764/pdf/gbq094.pdf

> > > > > > Associations Between Cognitive Function and Naturally Occurring

Daily Cortisol During Middle Adulthood: Timing Is Everything

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It will certainly give me something to talk about at my appointment

next week! Maybe I can educate her too!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dr. Grim, this raises a bunch of questions. I'm not sure how the

Pituitary decides how much Cortisol to request. Is it possible that the excess

being produced by the adenoma is taken into consideration so the " normal

process " is lessened during the day? (This might explain why 24h tests come in

normal.) I guess another question might be with the AVS. As I understand it the

overactive adrenal causes the other adrenal to " shut down " so you have to allow

time for it to " awaken " sometimes. Is that true for Cortisol also? Would that

explain excess Cortisol from that side also?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have also come up with theory why sub clinical Cortisol shows up

on the late night tests: The pituitary does its job and shuts down Cortisol but

the adenoma doesn't get the message (or is so damn independent) that it just

keeps pumping it out!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Plenty of questions, observations/answers appreciated!

> > > > > >

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So if has COPD then this could be his cause of over prodction of cortisol.

In that case removing just one adrenal gland would not help cushing's.

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> > > > > > > I came across the following tonight and although it doesn't apply

to all I thought it would be interesting to many.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3132764/pdf/gbq094.pdf

> > > > > > > Associations Between Cognitive Function and Naturally Occurring

Daily Cortisol During Middle Adulthood: Timing Is Everything

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It will certainly give me something to talk about at my

appointment next week! Maybe I can educate her too!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dr. Grim, this raises a bunch of questions. I'm not sure how the

Pituitary decides how much Cortisol to request. Is it possible that the excess

being produced by the adenoma is taken into consideration so the " normal

process " is lessened during the day? (This might explain why 24h tests come in

normal.) I guess another question might be with the AVS. As I understand it the

overactive adrenal causes the other adrenal to " shut down " so you have to allow

time for it to " awaken " sometimes. Is that true for Cortisol also? Would that

explain excess Cortisol from that side also?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have also come up with theory why sub clinical Cortisol shows up

on the late night tests: The pituitary does its job and shuts down Cortisol but

the adenoma doesn't get the message (or is so damn independent) that it just

keeps pumping it out!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Plenty of questions, observations/answers appreciated!

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Francis, don't practice medicine w/o a license. My COPD is so minimal, I missed

the cutoff by 5%, that I am sure it is not much of a factor if any. In fact I

never would have gotten that DX if LVH had not caused me to need suppl. oxygen.

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> > > > > > > > I came across the following tonight and although it doesn't

apply to all I thought it would be interesting to many.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3132764/pdf/gbq094.pdf

> > > > > > > > Associations Between Cognitive Function and Naturally Occurring

Daily Cortisol During Middle Adulthood: Timing Is Everything

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It will certainly give me something to talk about at my

appointment next week! Maybe I can educate her too!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dr. Grim, this raises a bunch of questions. I'm not sure how the

Pituitary decides how much Cortisol to request. Is it possible that the excess

being produced by the adenoma is taken into consideration so the " normal

process " is lessened during the day? (This might explain why 24h tests come in

normal.) I guess another question might be with the AVS. As I understand it the

overactive adrenal causes the other adrenal to " shut down " so you have to allow

time for it to " awaken " sometimes. Is that true for Cortisol also? Would that

explain excess Cortisol from that side also?

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up on the late night tests: The pituitary does its job and shuts down Cortisol

but the adenoma doesn't get the message (or is so damn independent) that it just

keeps pumping it out!

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