Introduction

April 25, 2000

Wow , you gave me chill bumps!

I did almost the identical weight loss/gain senario you

described except mine was between May - Sept.1998.

I lost approx. 80lbs then later on in Dec. 99-thu-May 2000,

I put back half of that weight I'd lost & 3 of the 7 sizes

I'd lost. AHHHHHHHH!!! I feel you frustration!

You've joined a great group! I'm relatively new, I joined

on April 11th and started the 21DC on April 10th.

After one day I knew I was going to need more support!*LOL*

Are you working out alone? Just curious because I am. It's

hard to keep going by yourself and this is a really active

message group which is so helpful.

I know you'll be successful!

Judie

--- avtovocat@... wrote:

> Hello everyone,

>

> I just joined this morning. Here is my story... I

> started doing Taebo in

> March of last year and combined with Herbalife got down

> from 240 lbs to 175

> lbs by September. Some unfortunate things took place and

> I lost site of it

> all and am now back to 210 lbs. I just did tae bo again

> for the first time

> since September this morning and I never realized how

> much I missed it and

> how much control it gave me. I'm also going to go on Fit

> America again-- I

> just can't stand this. I'm only 23 and I shouldn't be

> this overweight.

>

> Ok, that's my story

>

> luv

>

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April 27, 2000

In a message dated 4/25/00 9:47:49 AM Central Daylight Time,

avtovocat@... writes:

<< I just did tae bo again for the first time

since September this morning and I never realized how much I missed it and

how much control it gave me. I'm also going to go on Fit America again-- I

just can't stand this. I'm only 23 and I shouldn't be this overweight. >>

SUSAN WELCOME AND THANKS FOR THOSE ENCOURAGING WORDS I HAVENT BEEN TBING AS I

SHOULD OK I HAVENT DONE A WORK OUT IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS AND I FEEL THE

DIFFERENCE IN MY BODY FIRST IT WAS CUZ I HURT MYSELF THEN I JUST HAD A WHOLE

BUNCH OF BAD DAYS IN A ROW BUT I WILL GET OFF THE PUTER AND GET BUSY NOW . I

KNOW I HAVE MISSED IT AND I DO THANK YOU

ROMIE

WHO REALLY NEEDED ENCOURAGMENT

April 27, 2000

Hey Romie,

No problem I'm glad to be of help! I did the AL1 today-- got through about

40 minutes and the stretching at the end-- so I thought that was pretty good.

Ofcourse my thighs, arms and abs hate me but they'll get over it. It is a

amazing how much of a difference Tae Bo can make in your life and not just

your looks

luv

January 14, 2001

--In this post, I say " hi " to Tim (ciscoguyinkc@...). His message, to

which I reply, is copied and pasted below.--

Welcome, Tim!

Congratulations on starting your program! I'm glad that you are eager to make

a positive difference in your life. Adversity strikes everyone, so often

unexpectedly.

I wish you the best success in your transformation! I don't know whether

you're familiar with this group yet, but there are countless, wonderful,

enthusiastic and helpful people here.

Energetically,

<< Hello all, I started my program on the 6th of January. This is the

second challenge I have entered. One month into my first challenge

my wife left and my diet went to hell. Well, it's 1 1/2 years later

and i'm ready to do this again! Anyway, my name is Tim, I am 36

years old and live in the Kansas City area, and work out at Gold's

gym in Olathe or Merriam KS.

Tim >>

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FMBC: Fitness and the Mind-Body Connection

an unofficial Transformation Support site

and " on ramp " for Body-for-LIFE

by and Cherita Axel

http://fitmind.home.mindspring.com

January 14, 2001

--In this post, I say " hi " to Tim (ciscoguyinkc@...). His message, to

which I reply, is copied and pasted below.--

Welcome, Tim!

Congratulations on starting your program! I'm glad that you are eager to make

a positive difference in your life. Adversity strikes everyone, so often

unexpectedly.

I wish you the best success in your transformation! I don't know whether

you're familiar with this group yet, but there are countless, wonderful,

enthusiastic and helpful people here.

Energetically,

<< Hello all, I started my program on the 6th of January. This is the

second challenge I have entered. One month into my first challenge

my wife left and my diet went to hell. Well, it's 1 1/2 years later

and i'm ready to do this again! Anyway, my name is Tim, I am 36

years old and live in the Kansas City area, and work out at Gold's

gym in Olathe or Merriam KS.

Tim >>

---

FMBC: Fitness and the Mind-Body Connection

an unofficial Transformation Support site

and " on ramp " for Body-for-LIFE

by and Cherita Axel

http://fitmind.home.mindspring.com

January 14, 2001

Welcome, Tim

Cheryl C.

January 15, 2001

Welcome Tim. BFL should help you get your life organized. It's helped with

mine. Be sure to go through the planning and goal setting parts. You need

to build the foundation for success. Kit

January 22, 2001

Becky S [Rebscot@...] wrote:

> Hi everyone,

> I'm Becky..I've lost over 70 poudns in the past year with a low carb

> diet and working out 5-6 days a week.

>

> I'm starting my 3rd week of the BFL Challenge. I've gained 1 3/4

> pounds Is this normal? How long will it be before I start losing

> pounds too?? Any help would be appreciated. My Dr told e to throw my

> scales away. Help I'm getting discouraged. I thought this would help

> me finish losing the rest of my weight.

if you have been low carbing you will refill your water/glycogen levels, hence

instant wieght gain.

you also find that back to high carb will downregulate fat burning enzymes

and upregulate sugar burning enzymes, you also risk increasing insulin

resistance

if this was a problem. if you lost 70 pounds I dont really know why you want to

change?

Deus

January 22, 2001

Becky -

Congratulations on your successful weight loss! I lost 40 lbs. on a

lower-carb/exercise plan prior to starting BFL. Don't worry about

the weight gain you're experiencing with a higher-carb diet. Your

body is rebuilding the glycogen stores that were depleted by your low-

carb diet. The weight gain is all water, not fat, so you should not

see any increase in inches, just scale weight. It's perfectly

normal. Since you had such great success with the low-carb diet, you

might consider phasing into the program slowly to see what works for

you. Pay particular attention to your energy levels as you shift

your diet. You might find, as I did, that there are certain times of

the day when more carbs work better. For example, I work out first

thing in the morning and then have a fairly high-carb meal (with

Protein too) about an hour later. I find that it keeps my energy

level up until my mid-morning snack. I can almost feel my body

gobbling up the carbs to rebuild the glycogen I used during my

workout. On the other hand, I find that if I eat a high-carb meal

for lunch, I get a little slump in the afternoon. I think it's safe

to say that everyone is a little different, so you'll just need to

find what works for you. Your body will definitely need more carbs

if you plan to follow the intense workout routine recommended by

BFL. I believe there is a lot of merit to the recommendation of

eating several smaller meals per day, rather than a few big ones.

That will help smooth out your insulin levels and keep you at a

consistent energy level. I know lots of people have had great

success following the BFL program word-for-word, and others have been

successful tweaking the program for their own needs. I'm a firm

believer that if you listen to what your body tells you, you can find

the optimal plan for yourself.

Best of luck!

Jarel

> Hi everyone,

> I'm Becky..I've lost over 70 poudns in the past year with a low

carb

> diet and working out 5-6 days a week.

>

> I'm starting my 3rd week of the BFL Challenge. I've gained 1 3/4

> pounds Is this normal? How long will it be before I start losing

> pounds too?? Any help would be appreciated. My Dr told e to throw

my

> scales away. Help I'm getting discouraged. I thought this would

help

> me finish losing the rest of my weight.

>

> Becky

January 22, 2001

Welcome Becky. you want to lose fat not weight. Get your bodyfat measured

and use a tape measure. If you are following the nutrition and training

your will do fine. Much of the weight issue could be water retention from

the change in diet. Be sure to drink lots of water. Kit

February 26, 2001

Good luck, Cristi! You're off to a fabulous start! Look forward to hearing

about your great results.

Your friend,

February 26, 2001

Nice job!

Congrats......

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February 28, 2001

Welcome Cristi.

Cheryl C.

January 18, 2002

Dear ,

What a wonderful teacher you must be to care this much!!! I bet my

jaw wasn't the only one to hit the desktop when I read your introduction.

That boy is AWFULLY lucky to have you!! And his parents are too, even if they

don't realize it yet.

I have a nine year old daughter in fourth grade who developed OCD at

4 1/2 after a viral infection. Her OCD is reasonably under control these days

with cognitive behavioral therapy and Celexa. She also has ADD, which seems

to be a bigger problem recently. She is also gifted. Her teacher, despite all

the info I gave her, only sees that she is disorganized, talks too much and

underachieves. She continues to think that OCD means being " obsessive

compulsive " in the every day sense of having to be perfect. HA! Nothing could

be further from the truth for my daughter. Her OCD mostly concerns hurting

other people's feelings (especially our pets), anything related to vomiting

(which turns into anything related to food when she is really bad) and

evening up/symmetry kinds of things. The worst part of the school/OCD

equation is her difficulty with handwriting - this is the first year that her

teacher hasn't harped about her messiness since first grade. She also has a

very hard time doing big boring worksheets (like math) in order - she skips

around because she is either worried about later problems or wants to do the

easier ones first. This stresses her out a lot!!

She has recently developed an aversion to reading (and she has been reading

at a college level for years now) but she won't explain what that is all

about. It could be an ADD thing (we just put her back on medication for that

after she explained that she can't even read one sentence without losing

track of where she is) or an OCD thing which she isn't ready to admit.

Parenting a child with OCD? Whew. Probably the hardest part is

seeing your very capable child unable to do something that seems so easy, and

to be completely helpless. And not having others understand AT ALL. And being

blamed for it!! I can't tell you all the advise I got when Annie was younger

and had just gotten sick. She couldn't stand to be away from me and was so

sure she was going to throw up all the time that she often did, just from the

stress. Everyone just said she was spoiled and had me wrapped around her

finger.

Enough -I could go on all day. I'm so thrilled to have you on this

list. I would LOVE to hear what it's like to have a child with OCD in the

classroom!!

Thank you for being a teacher!!

, in Nevada, mother of Annie (9) and Ben (6)

January 18, 2002

I'm sure 99.8% of the people on this support line wish they had a

teacher like you for their child. Usually it's the opposite of what

you described. The parents know that something is wrong with their

child and the teacher thinks its a problem with the parent. Let's

hope that child's parents figure out that pretending like it's not

there wont make it go away!!! Good job educating yourself. Also,

there is a teacher's packet that you can order through the OCD

foundation that you might be interested in. I ordered it for my

daughter's teacher.

January 18, 2002

Hi ,

Welcome to our list community. Please let me thank

you for his parents until they are able to do so.

Take care.

Louis

--- nancyspenc wrote:

> Hi,

> I'm new to the list & thought I'd briefly introduce

> myself. I,

> myself, have OCD, and although none of my children

> have OCD, I work

> in the school system, and one of my students has

> just developed and

> been diagnosed with OCD. He is 10 years old. I

> joined this list so

> that I could gain a better understanding of what

> you, as parents, go

> through, having children with OCD, and how your

> children cope with

> it. Both my student and his parents are in denial,

> and his parents

> are having a really rough time with it. So any help

> I can be, I'd

> like to be able to offer. The more I understand, the

> better. (Just

> because I have OCD doesn't mean I truly understand

> what it's like for

> a child to have it, or his parents to cope with it).

> That's why I've

> joined. I hope that's ok. Thanks. Spencer.

>

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January 19, 2002

In a message dated 1/18/02 9:22:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,

nancy555@... writes:

> I joined this list so

> that I could gain a better understanding of what you, as parents, go

> through, having children with OCD, and how your children cope with

> it.

Spencer

That is great that you are taking an interest and informing yourself.

Congratulations! I find this group to be extremely informative, I am grateful

I found this group. WELCOME

Tammy

January 20, 2002

Hi again. I probably should have mentioned one more thing. True, my

student's parents are in denial right now, but that is quite common

and understandable. Often, when parents are faced with the news that

their child has a serious illness, a chronic illness, or there's been

a serious accident, it's like a loss, and with any loss comes

grieving. The first stage of grieving is denial.This can also happen

with the news that your child is depressed or has OCD (ie, my child

is not perfectly healthy anymore). Also, with mental illnesses or

conditions, even ADHD, unlike broken bones, parents are more likely

to want to " fix it " with a vacation, spending more time with their

child, nutrition, etc., and are quite often very reluctant to see the

disorder as a medical condition. So the reaction of these parents is

not uncommon. They'll realize soon that their son needs ongoing

medical attention, especially if he worsens. They probably just need

a little time to " digest " all this and come to terms with it. If his

depression gets out of hand, I'm sure they'll take him in to the

doctor or emergency. Also, I think they do appreciate my interest and

support. Thanks. nancy

January 31, 2002

HI :

Your student is very lucky to have you as his teacher. Many of us

fantasize about our kids having a teacher who truly understands

what it is like to deal with OCD every day!

Being in denial is a very normal part of the OCD journey. It can

take a lot of patience waiting for parents to come to terms with a

very painful situation. I know we lived in denial and ignorance

for years in our family :-( Part of this is our natural tendency

to hope for the best, even in a very difficult situation, and part

is the amazing ability many people living with OCD have to cope in

spite of very major challenges.

I am sure we will benefit from the input of someone like yourself

who is inside the school system. Take care, aloha, kathy (h)

kathyh@...

> Hi,

> I'm new to the list & thought I'd briefly introduce myself. I,

> myself, have OCD, and although none of my children have OCD, I work

> in the school system, and one of my students has just developed and

> been diagnosed with OCD. He is 10 years old. I joined this list so

> that I could gain a better understanding of what you, as parents, go

> through, having children with OCD, and how your children cope with

> it. Both my student and his parents are in denial, and his parents

> are having a really rough time with it. So any help I can be, I'd

> like to be able to offer. The more I understand, the better. (Just

> because I have OCD doesn't mean I truly understand what it's like

for

> a child to have it, or his parents to cope with it). That's why I've

> joined. I hope that's ok. Thanks. Spencer.

January 31, 2002