Guest guest Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 Mindy. Hi! JJ was very laid back until he hit puberity...........Then it was/still is a mess. Puberity brung on agression and anxiety bad. They are all different tho. Lois Future Behavior Brody is 4 with moderate autism/adhd. His behavior is pretty good, considering all this. He has tantrums and some meltdowns but they are pretty fast and furious and I can control them right now. My question is do tantrums and meltdowns get worse as they get older? I have heard puberty is tough on these guys and am just wondering what might be coming! The only med he takes is Clonodine right now for sleep. I don't think he needs anything else yet, just looking for some experience from parents with older children! Thanks. Mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 Puberty is tough. But not all kids are aggressive. Unfortunately my granddaughter is...she's always banged her fist on walls...tables...glass. Her parents are strict (and she's had behavorial therapy for years) and really don't take her crap...but it's still there. And now with her period....Whoa! Her pms is very tough. Most of her aggressive behavior comes from anxiety. She takes zoloft...which has helped her a lot in many areas...but we wonder if her "wake up in the middle of the night and goes bat shit crazy" is caused by zoloft. We don't know. Of course her doctor doesn't think so...but I tend to believe nothing a doctor says. Her doctor has just prescribed something for anxiety. We never thought we'd go down the med hole but, unfortunately her parents had to. Brody is 4 with moderate autism/adhd. His behavior is pretty good, considering all this. He has tantrums and some meltdowns but they are pretty fast and furious and I can control them right now. My question is do tantrums and meltdowns get worse as they get older? I have heard puberty is tough on these guys and am just wondering what might be coming! The only med he takes is Clonodine right now for sleep. I don't think he needs anything else yet, just looking for some experience from parents with older children! Thanks. Mindy -- Kate MyersTravel Desk773.904.8267 V773.698.8184 F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 I think all kids are different - there are some kids that go through puberty with very little issues where others struggle tremendously. Our daughter Maddie is 16 and struggles; we are in the process of sending her to a Neurobiobehavioral place out of state for help. She currently lives at an RTF and they haven't been able to help her:( Maddie had very little issues with aggression when she was little, but when she turned 14 she turned into a different child. The recommendation I make to parents with younger kids is to stay updated on meds (if/when you decide to use them), diets, therapy options, etc. I also tell them to look into options (group homes, RTF's doctors, respite, etc.) to have as a back up plan. I know we NEVER thought we would go to meds let alone an RTF, but Maddie was hurting herself (severely) and me. When this all happened we were not prepared at all - it took us over 1 1/2 years go get the beginning of help and we are still looking for the right help for her. I often think if I would have had the info and a backup plan in place, we would have her stable by now and back home:(RhondaFrom: lois noland <jlois@...>autism Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 9:21 PMSubject: Re: Future Behavior Mindy. Hi! JJ was very laid back until he hit puberity...........Then it was/still is a mess. Puberity brung on agression and anxiety bad. They are all different tho. Lois Future Behavior Brody is 4 with moderate autism/adhd. His behavior is pretty good, considering all this. He has tantrums and some meltdowns but they are pretty fast and furious and I can control them right now. My question is do tantrums and meltdowns get worse as they get older? I have heard puberty is tough on these guys and am just wondering what might be coming! The only med he takes is Clonodine right now for sleep. I don't think he needs anything else yet, just looking for some experience from parents with older children! Thanks. Mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 Same here. The worst was at 18 and the doctor made a flip remark about testosterone. Drissia From: lois noland <jlois@...>Subject: Re: Future Behaviorautism Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 9:21 PM Mindy. Hi! JJ was very laid back until he hit puberity...........Then it was/still is a mess. Puberity brung on agression and anxiety bad. They are all different tho. Lois Future Behavior Brody is 4 with moderate autism/adhd. His behavior is pretty good, considering all this. He has tantrums and some meltdowns but they are pretty fast and furious and I can control them right now. My question is do tantrums and meltdowns get worse as they get older? I have heard puberty is tough on these guys and am just wondering what might be coming! The only med he takes is Clonodine right now for sleep. I don't think he needs anything else yet, just looking for some experience from parents with older children! Thanks. Mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 My son has had several bouts with puberty issues. The first was at about 14 when the hormones first started kicking in. We ended up placing him in a RTF for about 7 months so they could work on finding the right med combo and for behavior modification. This coincided with his first hormonal changes and was effective for a couple of years. Now he is going through the young adult to manhood phase and it is starting all over again. My own personal theory is that these life changes confuse his body. He is routine oriented and this throws his life out of whack so he becomes more aggressive. This time around we know what we are up against so we have become real pro-active with his med schedule. He is now 17 1/2 and the peach fuss on his face is turning into stubble, is voice is changing again, and the real scary thing is he is noticing girls. Ben has a variety of diagnosis (PDD NOS, AD/HD, MR, several aggression diagnosis’s.). We will just have to wait and see how long it takes for him and his body to work through these things this time, but we are aware of what is happening and all of the professionals are on the same page so hopefully we can work through it better this time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 What is RTF? Jen > > I think all kids are different - there are some kids that go through puberty with very little issues where others struggle tremendously. Our daughter Maddie is 16 and struggles; we are in the process of sending her to a Neurobiobehavioral place out of state for help. She currently lives at an RTF and they haven't been able to help her:( Maddie had very little issues with aggression when she was little, but when she turned 14 she turned into a different child. > > > The recommendation I make to parents with younger kids is to stay updated on meds (if/when you decide to use them), diets, therapy options, etc. I also tell them to look into options (group homes, RTF's doctors, respite, etc.) to have as a back up plan. I know we NEVER thought we would go to meds let alone an RTF, but Maddie was hurting herself (severely) and me. When this all happened we were not prepared at all - it took us over 1 1/2 years go get the beginning of help and we are still looking for the right help for her. I often think if I would have had the info and a backup plan in place, we would have her stable by now and back home:( > > Rhonda > > > >________________________________ > >From: lois noland <jlois@...> > >autism > >Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 9:21 PM > >Subject: Re: Future Behavior > > > > > > > >Mindy. > > Hi! JJ was very laid back until he hit > puberity...........Then it was/still is a mess. Puberity brung on agression and > anxiety bad. They are all different tho. Lois > > Future Behavior > >> > >> > >>Brody is 4 with moderate autism/adhd. His behavior is pretty good, considering all this. He has tantrums and some meltdowns but they are pretty fast and furious and I can control them right now. My question is do tantrums and meltdowns get worse as they get older? I have heard puberty is tough on these guys and am just wondering what might be coming! The only med he takes is Clonodine right now for sleep. I don't think he needs anything else yet, just looking for some experience from parents with older children! Thanks. Mindy > >> > >> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 RTF stands for Residential Treatment Facility:) She lives there and goes to school there - they have a doctor on staff along with Behavior Specialists and therapists to help her manage her aggression, mood swings, and transition problems. They are trying to work on her meds and there they can watch and document what they see throughout the day; the doctor can watch her at school, meals, home environment, etc. From: cxu2002 <cxu2002@...>autism Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2011 11:08 AMSubject: Re: Future Behavior What is RTF? Jen > > I think all kids are different - there are some kids that go through puberty with very little issues where others struggle tremendously. Our daughter Maddie is 16 and struggles; we are in the process of sending her to a Neurobiobehavioral place out of state for help. She currently lives at an RTF and they haven't been able to help her:( Maddie had very little issues with aggression when she was little, but when she turned 14 she turned into a different child. > > > The recommendation I make to parents with younger kids is to stay updated on meds (if/when you decide to use them), diets, therapy options, etc. I also tell them to look into options (group homes, RTF's doctors, respite, etc.) to have as a back up plan. I know we NEVER thought we would go to meds let alone an RTF, but Maddie was hurting herself (severely) and me. When this all happened we were not prepared at all - it took us over 1 1/2 years go get the beginning of help and we are still looking for the right help for her. I often think if I would have had the info and a backup plan in place, we would have her stable by now and back home:( > > Rhonda > > > >________________________________ > >From: lois noland <jlois@...> > >autism > >Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 9:21 PM > >Subject: Re: Future Behavior > > > > > > > >Mindy. > > Hi! JJ was very laid back until he hit > puberity...........Then it was/still is a mess. Puberity brung on agression and > anxiety bad. They are all different tho. Lois > > Future Behavior > >> > >> > >>Brody is 4 with moderate autism/adhd. His behavior is pretty good, considering all this. He has tantrums and some meltdowns but they are pretty fast and furious and I can control them right now. My question is do tantrums and meltdowns get worse as they get older? I have heard puberty is tough on these guys and am just wondering what might be coming! The only med he takes is Clonodine right now for sleep. I don't think he needs anything else yet, just looking for some experience from parents with older children! Thanks. Mindy > >> > >> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 Lois, What did you find to help this? The anxiety and aggression I mean. We are looking at meltdown behavior in a 19 year old. The neuropsychiatrist is recommending zyprexa or Lamictal. From: lois noland <jlois@...>Subject: Re: Future Behaviorautism Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 9:21 PM Mindy. Hi! JJ was very laid back until he hit puberity...........Then it was/still is a mess. Puberity brung on agression and anxiety bad. They are all different tho. Lois Future Behavior Brody is 4 with moderate autism/adhd. His behavior is pretty good, considering all this. He has tantrums and some meltdowns but they are pretty fast and furious and I can control them right now. My question is do tantrums and meltdowns get worse as they get older? I have heard puberty is tough on these guys and am just wondering what might be coming! The only med he takes is Clonodine right now for sleep. I don't think he needs anything else yet, just looking for some experience from parents with older children! Thanks. Mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012  JJ takes resperdal and a small dose of zpraxa. I hate that he has to take it but its the ONLT thing I have seen that help with agression. He still gets his moments but not anything like before. He also gets 1mg of Ativan around 3pm to help with anxiety thru the day. Lois Future Behavior Brody is 4 with moderate autism/adhd. His behavior is pretty good, considering all this. He has tantrums and some meltdowns but they are pretty fast and furious and I can control them right now. My question is do tantrums and meltdowns get worse as they get older? I have heard puberty is tough on these guys and am just wondering what might be coming! The only med he takes is Clonodine right now for sleep. I don't think he needs anything else yet, just looking for some experience from parents with older children! Thanks. Mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 Can you describe features of each med good and bad? Here is what I see in risperadal - initial tantrum or hyper behavior ,than later less aggression,sleeps better at night, too high a dose = constipation, more awareness but more hyperactivity, impossible to get off of because she gets destructive or aggressive. I wish I never put her on it in first place. What you seeing ? From: lois noland <jlois@...>Subject: Re: Future Behaviorautism Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 9:21 PM Mindy. Hi! JJ was very laid back until he hit puberity...........Then it was/still is a mess. Puberity brung on agression and anxiety bad. They are all different tho. Lois Future Behavior Brody is 4 with moderate autism/adhd. His behavior is pretty good, considering all this. He has tantrums and some meltdowns but they are pretty fast and furious and I can control them right now. My question is do tantrums and meltdowns get worse as they get older? I have heard puberty is tough on these guys and am just wondering what might be coming! The only med he takes is Clonodine right now for sleep. I don't think he needs anything else yet, just looking for some experience from parents with older children! Thanks. Mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012  The good is it helps J with agression (both meds) the downside is zpraxa (which helps the most with agression makes JJ want to eat "all" the time! Up until puberity JJ was a sweet little guy but hormones kicked in and he starteds hitting and throwing things so we put him on the meds. He is good about 70% of the time but I have replaced glass in screen doors and holes in the walls from his outbursts......and when he hits.........its me that gets it. Lois Future Behavior Brody is 4 with moderate autism/adhd. His behavior is pretty good, considering all this. He has tantrums and some meltdowns but they are pretty fast and furious and I can control them right now. My question is do tantrums and meltdowns get worse as they get older? I have heard puberty is tough on these guys and am just wondering what might be coming! The only med he takes is Clonodine right now for sleep. I don't think he needs anything else yet, just looking for some experience from parents with older children! Thanks. Mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 My daughter is 8 . Lately she has been crying a lot. I think it is the Kapvay (clonidine. From: lois noland <jlois@...>Subject: Re: Future Behaviorautism Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 9:21 PM Mindy. Hi! JJ was very laid back until he hit puberity...........Then it was/still is a mess. Puberity brung on agression and anxiety bad. They are all different tho. Lois Future Behavior Brody is 4 with moderate autism/adhd. His behavior is pretty good, considering all this. He has tantrums and some meltdowns but they are pretty fast and furious and I can control them right now. My question is do tantrums and meltdowns get worse as they get older? I have heard puberty is tough on these guys and am just wondering what might be coming! The only med he takes is Clonodine right now for sleep. I don't think he needs anything else yet, just looking for some experience from parents with older children! Thanks. Mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012  JJ was fine until about age 12-13. He didn't take any meds until then. Lois Future Behavior Brody is 4 with moderate autism/adhd. His behavior is pretty good, considering all this. He has tantrums and some meltdowns but they are pretty fast and furious and I can control them right now. My question is do tantrums and meltdowns get worse as they get older? I have heard puberty is tough on these guys and am just wondering what might be coming! The only med he takes is Clonodine right now for sleep. I don't think he needs anything else yet, just looking for some experience from parents with older children! Thanks. Mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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