Re: Conversion/ discipline help

[Guest guest]

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Do not toss DTT and run for NET, there is ample room for both and you will

want to move smoothly from one to the other (set yourself up to succeed).

It's not a switch it's a transition. Additionally, there is also room in

the repertoire for precision teaching, PRT and other strong techniques. We

work best when we work with what works best.

C. A. , Ph.D.

Executive Center Director

The Childhood Learning Center

www.tclc.com

Learners do not fail to learn, teachers fail to teach.

[Guest guest]

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Reading your post, I am not sure if he was really avoiding a task which he

was supposed to put his shoes on or he didn't want to leave MD. If he didn't

want to leave MD thus hitting, then I would of take him out of MD and put

his shoes on in the car/made him put his shoes on in the car...( It would be

tough ;)carrying him etc... But if he was truely avoiding the task of

putting shoes on thus hitting you, I would of done hand over hand and made

him put his shoes on. He had to stop hitting you because his hands are on

the shoes. I don't know the detail about the bath incident.. but I try to

think the whole picture when I see behaviral problems arise. I think time

out works if the chlid wants to do that activity and you are preventing him

from doing it. But if he didn't want to put his shoes on, and get time out,

I think in a way you are reinforcing his wishes.

Good luck!!

Mariko

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>From: LAURA DYSON <1smallvoice@...>

> onelist

>Subject: [ ] Conversion/ discipline help

>Date: Wed, Jan 26, 2000, 10:06 AM

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>From: LAURA DYSON <1smallvoice@...>

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>Hello listers-We are in process of converting from DTT to NET with my 6

>1/2 year old kindergartner and I have a question about task avoidance:

>Until just a few months ago it was clear that any act of aggression

>would result in time out (he hates time out, we have scruitinized our

>behavior, too!). Now we are running into a question of when to implement

>time out without just confusing him. For instance-

>Yesterday I took them (NT 4 yr old little brother) to an outdoor

>Macs (a result of manding for it). It was very cold at 6 p.m. so

>when I said the usual " countdown " in minutes till we get shoes back on

>Ethan got very upset (I know he was still hungry and cold too). I tried

>to tell him " Get your shoes on,...get your shoes on...get your shoes

>on...get your shoes on... " to keep from giving any payoff of getting a

>rise out of me. I tried to help (maybe this was my mistake, but, in he

>usually needs some help doing it) and he started hitting me. I mean

>hitting and trying to kick and even in the car continuing to hit the

>back of my seat, my 4 yr old was starting to cry too, but I just kept a

>cool face and didn't confront him or what he was probably expecting as a

>consequence of hitting- being put in time out.

>We had another similar outburst after bath that same night and he became

>very emotional and just looked so confused and pitiful.

>I want to try to avoid putting him in time out for task avoidance, I

>understand that is just further task avoidance even if he hates time

>out. But when and how do I then treat his aggression. I am okay with the

>burst effect, I just don't want to confuse him any further!!!!

>Thanks for help-

>

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