Guest guest Posted December 30, 2000 Report Share Posted December 30, 2000 Mark, Thanks a million for posting this info. I looked at their website bridfly and also wrote down their 800 # (it is 800-334-7988 in case anyone else wants it). They are closed today, but I will call them on Tuesday to find out more! THANKS! Moria ---- RESPONDING TO: Message: 21 Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 10:36:02 -0800 From: " Mark Schauss " <schauss@...> Subject: Re: can I rant too? Moria, There is a way to order just about any test you want without your doctor's order. Go to www.healthchoice.net The company is called Direct Laboratory Services and they make it possible for anyone to get just about any test they want. In health, Mark Schauss www.cellmatewellness.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2001 Report Share Posted January 14, 2001 Hi, Cheryl, >I may suggest this to a local lab but one of the main problems with spirochetes is >their miniscule size.Some are smaller than others. A very powerful microsope is >also needed to see them. That's what made me think of fluorescence in the first place - you don't need to see the outline of the organism to be able to see it glowing. The dyes that fluoresce when bound to DNA (or RNA) are acridines - there is a whole family and I am sure that there are some out now that are better than the original acridine orange I used. The ones that change color when bound (instead of just getting brighter) ar the ones that you would want. The one specific for mycoplasma is a Hoechst dye - just called Hoechst and some 4-digit number (something like 4359) as of when I was working with it, 15+ years ago. Jerry _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2001 Report Share Posted January 15, 2001 Hi Jerry I spoke to a scientist who has cultured spirochetes in NZ ticks in an experimental situation. He said that stains and dyes that will reveal spirochetes are hard to get, unreliable and very specialized. Spirochetes can not be seen with any standard lab agents (not in nz). However I will ask someone else as it always pays to get more than one opinion. Are these fluorescent dyes all species specific as if its a new strain of spirochete current dies may not work. It may be obvious to you that I have no scientific background so if Ive got this all backwards please let me know. Thanks Cheryl Hi, Cheryl, >I may suggest this to a local lab but one of the main problems with spirochetes is >their miniscule size.Some are smaller than others. A very powerful microsope is >also needed to see them. That's what made me think of fluorescence in the first place - you don't need to see the outline of the organism to be able to see it glowing. The dyes that fluoresce when bound to DNA (or RNA) are acridines - there is a whole family and I am sure that there are some out now that are better than the original acridine orange I used. The ones that change color when bound (instead of just getting brighter) ar the ones that you would want. The one specific for mycoplasma is a Hoechst dye - just called Hoechst and some 4-digit number (something like 4359) as of when I was working with it, 15+ years ago. Jerry _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2001 Report Share Posted August 2, 2001 Hi listmates My daughter's urine tests came back from Doctors Data. They were the toxic and essential element tests. These were done without provocation and she turned out with nothing elevated. The only things she was excreting more than normal were iron and calcium. My doc thinks that with all the fortified juice that she drinks it is possible that the calcium is excreted because it is too much. I am not sure where to go now with this, because it seems to have no indication of toxic metals. Would a hair test be of diagnostic use now? Her other hair test is already from hair a year ago, so a new test would show whatever is currently being excreted. Yikes. More questions seem to give me more questions..... Elise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2001 Report Share Posted August 3, 2001 > Hi listmates > > My daughter's urine tests came back from Doctors Data. They were the toxic > and essential element tests. These were done without provocation and she > turned out with nothing elevated. The only things she was excreting more > than normal were iron and calcium. My doc thinks that with all the fortified > juice that she drinks it is possible that the calcium is excreted because it > is too much. I am not sure where to go now with this, because it seems to > have no indication of toxic metals. You wouldn't expect this test to show anything. >Would a hair test be of diagnostic use > now? Her other hair test is already from hair a year ago, so a new test > would show whatever is currently being excreted. You don't need to repeat the hair test - it was for diagnostic purposes and isn't that useful for tracking therapy. > > Yikes. More questions seem to give me more questions..... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2001 Report Share Posted August 3, 2001 > >> >You don't need to repeat the hair test - it was for diagnostic >purposes and isn't that useful for tracking therapy. Which I think means you should take the old hair test and use the counting rules on it to see if it indicates merc toxicity is likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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