Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Aren't these rather contradictory statements? " Mitochondrial dysfunction has also been implicated in Alzheimer's Dementia, Parkinson's disease, Huntington's disease, heart disease and diabetes. " Mitochondrial disease is not rare. Researchers estimate that every 15 minutes a child is born with mitochondrial disease or will be diagnosed with mitochondrial disease by the age of 10. Most affected children do not live beyond their teenage years. " Considering the level of Alzeheimer's and Parkinson's in adults, and the icreasing number of people with diabetes, many of whom live to middle age, the number of children who have mito disease would have to be enormous if " most " (50% + 1?) died before reaching adulthood. According to the Nat'l Parkinson's Foundation, 1.5 million Americans have it, with 85% of persons exhibiting the symptoms after age 65. According to the Alzeimer's Association 5 million Americans have it, with 90% occuring in people older than 65. If only 10% of either disease is caused by mito, that means that 0.2% of people have this underlying condition, and if most people born with it die before adulthood, then at least 0.4% of children are born with it, making it far more prevalant than " rare " . And that is when we lowball the estimates, and without considering mito's connection with other medical disorders like diabetes, heart disease or autism... Do the people who write articles like this not see the broader implications of what they are asserting? Are people so educated that they come full circle and become feeble-minded? Or are they simply speaking out their asses because they really do not know but need to be perceived as being knowledgable? __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Mitochondrial dysfunction must be linked to mercury and all the other toxins... any one see a recovery from these named *diseases* after extensive chelation???? Re:UMDF Statement on the Connection Between Mitochondrial Disease and A Aren't these rather contradictory statements?"Mitochondrial dysfunction has also been implicated inAlzheimer's Dementia, Parkinson's disease,Huntington's disease, heart disease and diabetes."Mitochondrial disease is not rare. Researchersestimate that every 15 minutes a child is born withmitochondrial disease or will be diagnosed withmitochondrial disease by the age of 10. Most affectedchildren do not live beyond their teenage years."Considering the level of Alzeheimer's and Parkinson'sin adults, and the icreasing number of people withdiabetes, many of whom live to middle age, the numberof children who have mito disease would have to beenormous if "most" (50% + 1?) died before reachingadulthood.According to the Nat'l Parkinson's Foundation, 1.5million Americans have it, with 85% of personsexhibiting the symptoms after age 65.According to the Alzeimer's Association 5 millionAmericans have it, with 90% occuring in people olderthan 65.If only 10% of either disease is caused by mito, thatmeans that 0.2% of people have this underlyingcondition, and if most people born with it die beforeadulthood, then at least 0.4% of children are bornwith it, making it far more prevalant than "rare". And that is when we lowball the estimates, and withoutconsidering mito's connection with other medicaldisorders like diabetes, heart disease or autism...Do the people who write articles like this not see thebroader implications of what they are asserting? Arepeople so educated that they come full circle andbecome feeble-minded? Or are they simply speaking outtheir asses because they really do not know but needto be perceived as being knowledgable?__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 I recently reviewed my sons OAT tests. I looked at several markers that indicate mitochondrial dysfunction. We have been chelating my son for close to 6 yrs....the last 18 months with weekly IV's. All of his mitochondrial markers on the OAT test were high years ago and are now in a normal range. We run our OAT tests thru Great Plains Lab. I would think that that lab would have lots of OAT tests to review and see how many ASD kids have mitochondrial issues and how many kids have improved with chelation. I would love to see a study on this. I am convinced my son had no mitochondrial issues until he was injected with unsafe levels of mercury. --- Nora Gottlieb <nwgott@...> wrote: > Mitochondrial dysfunction must be linked to mercury > and all the other toxins... > any one see a recovery from these named *diseases* > after extensive chelation???? > Re:UMDF Statement on the > Connection Between Mitochondrial Disease and A > > > Aren't these rather contradictory statements? > > " Mitochondrial dysfunction has also been > implicated in > Alzheimer's Dementia, Parkinson's disease, > Huntington's disease, heart disease and diabetes. > > " Mitochondrial disease is not rare. Researchers > estimate that every 15 minutes a child is born > with > mitochondrial disease or will be diagnosed with > mitochondrial disease by the age of 10. Most > affected > children do not live beyond their teenage years. " > > Considering the level of Alzeheimer's and > Parkinson's > in adults, and the icreasing number of people with > diabetes, many of whom live to middle age, the > number > of children who have mito disease would have to be > enormous if " most " (50% + 1?) died before reaching > adulthood. > > According to the Nat'l Parkinson's Foundation, 1.5 > million Americans have it, with 85% of persons > exhibiting the symptoms after age 65. > > According to the Alzeimer's Association 5 million > Americans have it, with 90% occuring in people > older > than 65. > > If only 10% of either disease is caused by mito, > that > means that 0.2% of people have this underlying > condition, and if most people born with it die > before > adulthood, then at least 0.4% of children are born > with it, making it far more prevalant than " rare " . > > > And that is when we lowball the estimates, and > without > considering mito's connection with other medical > disorders like diabetes, heart disease or > autism... > > Do the people who write articles like this not see > the > broader implications of what they are asserting? > Are > people so educated that they come full circle and > become feeble-minded? Or are they simply speaking > out > their asses because they really do not know but > need > to be perceived as being knowledgable? > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Guys -- the Mitochondrial foundation is here in Pittsburgh. One of my friends is very tight with the head of the foundation. I think we should get together with him...... What do you think? > > > Mitochondrial dysfunction must be linked to mercury > > and all the other toxins... > > any one see a recovery from these named *diseases* > > after extensive chelation???? > > Re:UMDF Statement on the > > Connection Between Mitochondrial Disease and A > > > > > > Aren't these rather contradictory statements? > > > > " Mitochondrial dysfunction has also been > > implicated in > > Alzheimer's Dementia, Parkinson's disease, > > Huntington's disease, heart disease and diabetes. > > > > " Mitochondrial disease is not rare. Researchers > > estimate that every 15 minutes a child is born > > with > > mitochondrial disease or will be diagnosed with > > mitochondrial disease by the age of 10. Most > > affected > > children do not live beyond their teenage years. " > > > > Considering the level of Alzeheimer's and > > Parkinson's > > in adults, and the icreasing number of people with > > diabetes, many of whom live to middle age, the > > number > > of children who have mito disease would have to be > > enormous if " most " (50% + 1?) died before reaching > > adulthood. > > > > According to the Nat'l Parkinson's Foundation, 1.5 > > million Americans have it, with 85% of persons > > exhibiting the symptoms after age 65. > > > > According to the Alzeimer's Association 5 million > > Americans have it, with 90% occuring in people > > older > > than 65. > > > > If only 10% of either disease is caused by mito, > > that > > means that 0.2% of people have this underlying > > condition, and if most people born with it die > > before > > adulthood, then at least 0.4% of children are born > > with it, making it far more prevalant than " rare " . > > > > > > And that is when we lowball the estimates, and > > without > > considering mito's connection with other medical > > disorders like diabetes, heart disease or > > autism... > > > > Do the people who write articles like this not see > > the > > broader implications of what they are asserting? > > Are > > people so educated that they come full circle and > > become feeble-minded? Or are they simply speaking > > out > > their asses because they really do not know but > > need > > to be perceived as being knowledgable? > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 They cannot deny the science that already exist on this!! We cannot let them change these facts, that all the heavy metals and toxins such as MSG can and have caused mito - dysfunction an disorders "Vaccinations contain at least four neuro-toxins: mercury, formaldehyde, MSG and aluminum hydroxide. Researchers at the University of British Columbia have been looking at the possible effects of the fourth item in this list. They injected mice with anthrax vaccine containing aluminum hydroxide. After 20 weeks studying the mice, the team found statistically significant increases in anxiety (38 percent); memory deficits (41 times more errors than the sample group); and allergic skin reaction (20 percent). On autopsy, brain tissue samples showed that 35 percent of the cells were in the process of destroying themselves. According to Shaw, lead researcher for the project, his research shows a link between aluminum hydroxide and symptoms of Parkinson's, Alzheimer's and Lou Gehrig's disease. "No one in my lab wants to get vaccinated," he said. "This totally creeped us out. We weren't out there to poke holes in vaccines. But all of a sudden, oh my God--we've got neuron death!" Thimerosal is the worst for depleting glutathion because it turns to ethyl-mercury then it metabolizes into Inorganic mercury which is the most damaging to the mitochondrial glutathion then comes MSG, but remember the synergy effect of the 2 salts mixed mercury and aluminum they the CDC have known since the simpsonwood meetings the two react violently togather creating the production heat and a killing factor x 10 This is what happened to my son Colton a Knott the size of a mans fist came up at the injection site so hot it would burn you to touch it. The next day three mini seizures from that day on, the child was GONE into Autism "AKA" mitochondria dysfunction or disorders but not disease "Metal toxicity" creates multisystem dysfunction,which appears to be mediated primarily throughmitochondrial damage from glutathione depletion.Accurate screening can increase the likelihood that patientswith potential metal toxicity are identified. GajilanSenior Producer,this was gleaned in seconds with a simple Googlesearch. Heavy-Metal Toxicity—With Emphasis on Mercury Neustadt, ND, and Steve Pieczenik, MD, PhD Mitochondrial DamageOne major mechanism for metals toxicity appears tobe direct and indirect damage to mitochondria via depletionof glutathione, an endogenous thiol-containing (SH-)antioxidant, which results in excessive free radical generationand mitochondrial damage.28 Anecdotally, DrNeustadt, in his clinic, frequently observes an elevation ofurinary pyroglutamate, an organic acid that is a specificmarker for glutathione depletion in patients with confirmedmercury toxicity.29 Not surprisingly, these patientsalso complain of fatigue, a hallmark symptom of mitochondrialdamage.Nora Gottlieb <nwgott@...> wrote: Mitochondrial dysfunction must be linked to mercury and all the other toxins... any one see a recovery from these named *diseases* after extensive chelation???? Re:UMDF Statement on the Connection Between Mitochondrial Disease and A Aren't these rather contradictory statements?"Mitochondrial dysfunction has also been implicated inAlzheimer's Dementia, Parkinson's disease,Huntington's disease, heart disease and diabetes."Mitochondrial disease is not rare. Researchersestimate that every 15 minutes a child is born withmitochondrial disease or will be diagnosed withmitochondrial disease by the age of 10. Most affectedchildren do not live beyond their teenage years."Considering the level of Alzeheimer's and Parkinson'sin adults, and the icreasing number of people withdiabetes, many of whom live to middle age, the numberof children who have mito disease would have to beenormous if "most" (50% + 1?) died before reachingadulthood.According to the Nat'l Parkinson's Foundation, 1.5million Americans have it, with 85% of personsexhibiting the symptoms after age 65.According to the Alzeimer's Association 5 millionAmericans have it, with 90% occuring in people olderthan 65.If only 10% of either disease is caused by mito, thatmeans that 0.2% of people have this underlyingcondition, and if most people born with it die beforeadulthood, then at least 0.4% of children are bornwith it, making it far more prevalant than "rare". And that is when we lowball the estimates, and withoutconsidering mito's connection with other medicaldisorders like diabetes, heart disease or autism...Do the people who write articles like this not see thebroader implications of what they are asserting? Arepeople so educated that they come full circle andbecome feeble-minded? Or are they simply speaking outtheir asses because they really do not know but needto be perceived as being knowledgable?__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 wow well put...thanks...a real keeper for my files, Nora Re:UMDF Statement on the Connection Between Mitochondrial Disease and A Aren't these rather contradictory statements?"Mitochondrial dysfunction has also been implicated inAlzheimer's Dementia, Parkinson's disease,Huntington's disease, heart disease and diabetes."Mitochondrial disease is not rare. Researchersestimate that every 15 minutes a child is born withmitochondrial disease or will be diagnosed withmitochondrial disease by the age of 10. Most affectedchildren do not live beyond their teenage years."Considering the level of Alzeheimer's and Parkinson'sin adults, and the icreasing number of people withdiabetes, many of whom live to middle age, the numberof children who have mito disease would have to beenormous if "most" (50% + 1?) died before reachingadulthood.According to the Nat'l Parkinson's Foundation, 1.5million Americans have it, with 85% of personsexhibiting the symptoms after age 65.According to the Alzeimer's Association 5 millionAmericans have it, with 90% occuring in people olderthan 65.If only 10% of either disease is caused by mito, thatmeans that 0.2% of people have this underlyingcondition, and if most people born with it die beforeadulthood, then at least 0.4% of children are bornwith it, making it far more prevalant than "rare". And that is when we lowball the estimates, and withoutconsidering mito's connection with other medicaldisorders like diabetes, heart disease or autism...Do the people who write articles like this not see thebroader implications of what they are asserting? Arepeople so educated that they come full circle andbecome feeble-minded? Or are they simply speaking outtheir asses because they really do not know but needto be perceived as being knowledgable?__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 I had a 30 minute conversation with the CEO He is clearly in their pockets making excuses all the way, after all he came out most likely after a call from gerberdine as damage control I pinned him down to what he had said and then he changed it to there is no accepted science, then said we need to push for more money for his organization but I think that was already taken care of by his favor to the DIR. of the CDCautismlink <cindy@...> wrote: Guys -- the Mitochondrial foundation is here in Pittsburgh. One of myfriends is very tight with the head of the foundation. I think weshould get together with him......What do you think?> > > Mitochondrial dysfunction must be linked to mercury> > and all the other toxins...> > any one see a recovery from these named *diseases*> > after extensive chelation???? > > Re:UMDF Statement on the> > Connection Between Mitochondrial Disease and A> > > > > > Aren't these rather contradictory statements?> > > > "Mitochondrial dysfunction has also been> > implicated in> > Alzheimer's Dementia, Parkinson's disease,> > Huntington's disease, heart disease and diabetes.> > > > "Mitochondrial disease is not rare. Researchers> > estimate that every 15 minutes a child is born> > with> > mitochondrial disease or will be diagnosed with> > mitochondrial disease by the age of 10. Most> > affected> > children do not live beyond their teenage years."> > > > Considering the level of Alzeheimer's and> > Parkinson's> > in adults, and the icreasing number of people with> > diabetes, many of whom live to middle age, the> > number> > of children who have mito disease would have to be> > enormous if "most" (50% + 1?) died before reaching> > adulthood.> > > > According to the Nat'l Parkinson's Foundation, 1.5> > million Americans have it, with 85% of persons> > exhibiting the symptoms after age 65.> > > > According to the Alzeimer's Association 5 million> > Americans have it, with 90% occuring in people> > older> > than 65.> > > > If only 10% of either disease is caused by mito,> > that> > means that 0.2% of people have this underlying> > condition, and if most people born with it die> > before> > adulthood, then at least 0.4% of children are born> > with it, making it far more prevalant than "rare".> > > > > > And that is when we lowball the estimates, and> > without> > considering mito's connection with other medical> > disorders like diabetes, heart disease or> > autism...> > > > Do the people who write articles like this not see> > the> > broader implications of what they are asserting?> > Are> > people so educated that they come full circle and> > become feeble-minded? Or are they simply speaking> > out> > their asses because they really do not know but> > need> > to be perceived as being knowledgable?> > > > __________________________________________________> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 But let me make a connection and see what we can do. Can you guys come to Pittsburgh?? > > > > > Mitochondrial dysfunction must be linked to mercury > > > and all the other toxins... > > > any one see a recovery from these named *diseases* > > > after extensive chelation???? > > > Re:UMDF Statement on the > > > Connection Between Mitochondrial Disease and A > > > > > > > > > Aren't these rather contradictory statements? > > > > > > " Mitochondrial dysfunction has also been > > > implicated in > > > Alzheimer's Dementia, Parkinson's disease, > > > Huntington's disease, heart disease and diabetes. > > > > > > " Mitochondrial disease is not rare. Researchers > > > estimate that every 15 minutes a child is born > > > with > > > mitochondrial disease or will be diagnosed with > > > mitochondrial disease by the age of 10. Most > > > affected > > > children do not live beyond their teenage years. " > > > > > > Considering the level of Alzeheimer's and > > > Parkinson's > > > in adults, and the icreasing number of people with > > > diabetes, many of whom live to middle age, the > > > number > > > of children who have mito disease would have to be > > > enormous if " most " (50% + 1?) died before reaching > > > adulthood. > > > > > > According to the Nat'l Parkinson's Foundation, 1.5 > > > million Americans have it, with 85% of persons > > > exhibiting the symptoms after age 65. > > > > > > According to the Alzeimer's Association 5 million > > > Americans have it, with 90% occuring in people > > > older > > > than 65. > > > > > > If only 10% of either disease is caused by mito, > > > that > > > means that 0.2% of people have this underlying > > > condition, and if most people born with it die > > > before > > > adulthood, then at least 0.4% of children are born > > > with it, making it far more prevalant than " rare " . > > > > > > > > > And that is when we lowball the estimates, and > > > without > > > considering mito's connection with other medical > > > disorders like diabetes, heart disease or > > > autism... > > > > > > Do the people who write articles like this not see > > > the > > > broader implications of what they are asserting? > > > Are > > > people so educated that they come full circle and > > > become feeble-minded? Or are they simply speaking > > > out > > > their asses because they really do not know but > > > need > > > to be perceived as being knowledgable? > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Re UMDF, where does most of their funding come from? It may have been mentioned earlier, but I think I missed it. It would be good to review it. JOE HARRIS` <ccdaddy57@...> wrote: I had a 30 minute conversation with the CEO He is clearly in their pockets making excuses all the way, after all he came out most likely after a call from gerberdine as damage control I pinned him down to what he had said and then he changed it to there is no accepted science, then said we need to push for more money for his organization but I think that was already taken care of by his favor to the DIR. of the CDCautismlink <cindyautismlink> wrote: Guys -- the Mitochondrial foundation is here in Pittsburgh. One of myfriends is very tight with the head of the foundation. I think weshould get together with him......What do you think?> > > Mitochondrial dysfunction must be linked to mercury> > and all the other toxins...> > any one see a recovery from these named *diseases*> > after extensive chelation???? > > Re:UMDF Statement on the> > Connection Between Mitochondrial Disease and A> > > > > > Aren't these rather contradictory statements?> > > > "Mitochondrial dysfunction has also been> > implicated in> > Alzheimer's Dementia, Parkinson's disease,> > Huntington's disease, heart disease and diabetes.> > > > "Mitochondrial disease is not rare. Researchers> > estimate that every 15 minutes a child is born> > with> > mitochondrial disease or will be diagnosed with> > mitochondrial disease by the age of 10. Most> > affected> > children do not live beyond their teenage years."> > > > Considering the level of Alzeheimer's and> > Parkinson's> > in adults, and the icreasing number of people with> > diabetes, many of whom live to middle age, the> > number> > of children who have mito disease would have to be> > enormous if "most" (50% + 1?) died before reaching> > adulthood.> > > > According to the Nat'l Parkinson's Foundation, 1.5> > million Americans have it, with 85% of persons> > exhibiting the symptoms after age 65.> > > > According to the Alzeimer's Association 5 million> > Americans have it, with 90% occuring in people> > older> > than 65.> > > > If only 10% of either disease is caused by mito,> > that> > means that 0.2% of people have this underlying> > condition, and if most people born with it die> > before> > adulthood, then at least 0.4% of children are born> > with it, making it far more prevalant than "rare".> > > > > > And that is when we lowball the estimates, and> > without> > considering mito's connection with other medical> > disorders like diabetes, heart disease or> > autism...> > > > Do the people who write articles like this not see> > the> > broader implications of what they are asserting?> > Are> > people so educated that they come full circle and> > become feeble-minded? Or are they simply speaking> > out> > their asses because they really do not know but> > need> > to be perceived as being knowledgable?> > > > __________________________________________________> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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