RE: OMG!! doctors in my son's ped office are replying to the posts YOU made!!!!

[Guest guest]

I am only seeing 4 comments.. help!

OMG!! doctors in my son's ped office are replying to the

posts YOU made!!!!

http://www.timesonline.com/articles/2008/03/30/opinion/letters_to_the_editor

/doc47ed0fdf73cc7812956782.txt

[Guest guest]

My reply:

Well I guess it's a good thing we learned all about sanitation and nutrition

since 1713.

Mortality rate from measles was almost nil BEFORE the vaccine. Kids do not

simply die from measles now unless they are malnourished, or have their

fevers suppressed.

Studies in Africa show mortality to be higher in those given fever reducers.

Mortality rates were best in the group given Vit A and nothing else.

Vaccinating babies for childhood illness is pushing the age of incidence to

adulthood where we will actually see higher mortality than if we would have

allowed the natural course of things.

MMR and V vaccines are useless at best, but actually harmful.

OMG!! doctors in my son's ped office are replying to the

posts YOU made!!!!

http://www.timesonline.com/articles/2008/03/30/opinion/letters_to_the_editor

/doc47ed0fdf73cc7812956782.txt

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[Guest guest]

I see 5. They are delayed in posting them. They have to be approved

first.

>

> I am only seeing 4 comments.. help!

>

> OMG!! doctors in my son's ped office are replying

to the

> posts YOU made!!!!

>

>

http://www.timesonline.com/articles/2008/03/30/opinion/letters_to_the_editor

> /doc47ed0fdf73cc7812956782.txt

>

[Guest guest]

My son's pediatrician's are commenting again today. So frustrating!

Yes I'm finding new ped's, or should I say a new doc (I think I've had

it with AAP docs).

http://www.timesonline.com/articles/2008/03/30/opinion/letters_to_the_editor/doc\

47ed0fdf73cc7812956782.txt

Here's the latest comments

kidsdoc wrote on Apr 7, 2008 1:16 PM:

" cc: there are few who discount the link between some metabolic

disorders and the development of infantile type autism. This is NOT

news. Given the fact that there are at least a dozen individual genes

assd with the disorder, there will be MANY metabolic disorders found

to be assd. The issue is whether Immunization is a trigger and there

simply is no data to make that connection. Studies looking at

individual vaccines indirectly evaluate the vaccine schedule - still

no link. Lets put our efforts into identifying the metabolic disorders

such as mitochondrial disease and the REAL triggers instead of

diddling around blaming vaccines or preservatives. "

leslie taylor wrote on Apr 4, 2008 12:38 PM:

" Sue Graf is a very intelligent Physian Assistant who turned my son's

asthma around years ago and he has done well since then and she also

gave my daughter a well educated rotation as a Physician Assistant

major @ Gannon University. She is one of the best in the area. "

tspdoc wrote on Apr 3, 2008 2:12 PM:

" I just wanted to second what Dr. Scibilia has already stated. The

reason that most people don't see the horrible aftermath of these

illnesses is because of the vaccines that prevent them. However, just

because you don't know someone who has had the illness doesn't mean

that they don't still exist nor does it mean that the illness still

can't result in devastating outcomes even with the advances of modern

medicine.

I have a niece who has autism. I know how heartbreaking that diagnosis

can be. I also know that my brother fully vaccinated my niece and her

two younger siblings without reservation and that I have fully

vaccinated both of my children.

Lastly, I wanted to clarify that a Physician Assistant is not someone

who is placed in our office to assist us. They are fully trained

clinicians. We have three PAs in our group all of whom are well

trained and proficient in their field. I completely trust all three of

them to care for my children and will continue to do so.

, MD, FAAP "

kidsdoc wrote on Apr 3, 2008 10:45 AM:

" Measles is a viral illness and, except for ICU care, ventilators,

and intravenous fluids we have no better treatment for it than we had

in 1713. Worldwide measles kills over 2 MILLION children a year. In

the US prior to measles vaccine there were 300-600 deaths per year and

400-760,000 reported cases a year along with tens of thousands of

hospital stays for complications such as pneumonia and brain

infections. Prior to the licensing of HIB vaccine there were over

10,000 cases per year of HIB meningitis in the US, mostly in infants

under 18mos, in 2006 there were less than 30, virtually all of whom

were unimmunized. Worldwide HIB causes about 200-300,000 deaths from

meningitis.

We live in a country that has eliminated most deadly diseases of

childhood because of immunization programs. Arguing otherwise is

simply ignoring FACTS. If you think these things are no big deal, I

would disagree having dealt with these illnesses during my 25 yr

medical career at Children's and in the county.

PS - Ms Graf is a GREAT clinician, I should know since I take MY

children to her.

Jim Scibilia, MD, FAAP "

[Guest guest]

Good Lord-- 1713?

Okay, here's my MODERN time line outlining the brand new disease of

regulatory capture and corruption:

December, 2006: my twins are diagnosed with PDD-NOS. They have

confirmed metal poisoning-- arsenic, lead and mercury.

January 1st, 2007: My father has a heart attack after nine years of

flu shots. The Cleveland study comes out soon after linking his type

of arterial placque with mercury exposure. He has several subsequent

strokes from the lousy statins he's given and then breaks his leg.

January 1st, 2007: Our beloved cat dies from tainted cat food, from

the only time he ever ate commercial canned food.

January 7th, 2007: My uncle is diagnosed with advanced prostate

cancer. He had been researching metal poisoning for some time and may

have efflux disorder which could partly explain the rapid onset of

the disease.

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http://www.timesonline.com/articles/2008/03/30/opinion/letters_to_the_

editor/doc47ed0fdf73cc7812956782.txt

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[Guest guest]

Now he's saying that ALL kids flu vaccine is mercury free and has been

for several years.

The doctor keeps posting more... boy, his attention to this really has

me wondering what he could be nervous about. Check out his latest

comment posted this evening!

kidsdoc wrote on Apr 7, 2008 9:31 PM:

" Facts:

1) ALL kids flu vaccine is mercury free and has been for the past

several years. Supplies are NOT an issue, reluctance of people to

immunize kids because of the kinds of 'false facts' jumping through

this blog.

2) Great example of 'false fact' - jweb94:

(Immu for Measles developed mid 1960s)

year cases deaths

1956 611,000 530

1958 763,000 552

1960 441,000 380

1962 481,000 408

1964 458,000 421

1966 204,000 261

1968 22,000 24

1970 47,000 89

1972 32,000 24

1974 22,000 20

The fact is that vaccine dramatically dcreased the cases and deaths.

Lets stop making stuff up, lets deal in reality. "

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> http://www.timesonline.com/articles/2008/03/30/opinion/letters_to_the_

> editor/doc47ed0fdf73cc7812956782.txt

> >

>

[Guest guest]

is this the paper in PA post?

if so, I'm not surprised.

too many sheeple here

desiree

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-- In EOHarm , " angndon1994 " <angslists@...> wrote:

>

> My son's pediatrician's are commenting again today. So frustrating!

> Yes I'm finding new ped's, or should I say a new doc (I think I've

had

> it with AAP docs).

>

>

http://www.timesonline.com/articles/2008/03/30/opinion/letters_to_the_

editor/doc47ed0fdf73cc7812956782.txt

>

> Here's the latest comments

> kidsdoc wrote on Apr 7, 2008 1:16 PM:

> " cc: there are few who discount the link between some metabolic

> disorders and the development of infantile type autism. This is NOT

> news. Given the fact that there are at least a dozen individual

genes

> assd with the disorder, there will be MANY metabolic disorders found

> to be assd. The issue is whether Immunization is a trigger and there

> simply is no data to make that connection. Studies looking at

> individual vaccines indirectly evaluate the vaccine schedule - still

> no link. Lets put our efforts into identifying the metabolic

disorders

> such as mitochondrial disease and the REAL triggers instead of

> diddling around blaming vaccines or preservatives. "

>

> leslie taylor wrote on Apr 4, 2008 12:38 PM:

> " Sue Graf is a very intelligent Physian Assistant who turned my

son's

> asthma around years ago and he has done well since then and she also

> gave my daughter a well educated rotation as a Physician Assistant

> major @ Gannon University. She is one of the best in the area. "

>

> tspdoc wrote on Apr 3, 2008 2:12 PM:

> " I just wanted to second what Dr. Scibilia has already stated. The

> reason that most people don't see the horrible aftermath of these

> illnesses is because of the vaccines that prevent them. However,

just

> because you don't know someone who has had the illness doesn't mean

> that they don't still exist nor does it mean that the illness still

> can't result in devastating outcomes even with the advances of

modern

> medicine.

>

> I have a niece who has autism. I know how heartbreaking that

diagnosis

> can be. I also know that my brother fully vaccinated my niece and

her

> two younger siblings without reservation and that I have fully

> vaccinated both of my children.

>

> Lastly, I wanted to clarify that a Physician Assistant is not

someone

> who is placed in our office to assist us. They are fully trained

> clinicians. We have three PAs in our group all of whom are well

> trained and proficient in their field. I completely trust all three

of

> them to care for my children and will continue to do so.

>

> , MD, FAAP "

>

> kidsdoc wrote on Apr 3, 2008 10:45 AM:

> " Measles is a viral illness and, except for ICU care, ventilators,

> and intravenous fluids we have no better treatment for it than we

had

> in 1713. Worldwide measles kills over 2 MILLION children a year. In

> the US prior to measles vaccine there were 300-600 deaths per year

and

> 400-760,000 reported cases a year along with tens of thousands of

> hospital stays for complications such as pneumonia and brain

> infections. Prior to the licensing of HIB vaccine there were over

> 10,000 cases per year of HIB meningitis in the US, mostly in infants

> under 18mos, in 2006 there were less than 30, virtually all of whom

> were unimmunized. Worldwide HIB causes about 200-300,000 deaths from

> meningitis.

> We live in a country that has eliminated most deadly diseases of

> childhood because of immunization programs. Arguing otherwise is

> simply ignoring FACTS. If you think these things are no big deal, I

> would disagree having dealt with these illnesses during my 25 yr

> medical career at Children's and in the county.

> PS - Ms Graf is a GREAT clinician, I should know since I take MY

> children to her.

> Jim Scibilia, MD, FAAP "

>

[Guest guest]

Deciding if I should engage this moron any more?

His own numbers show the cases were coming down BEFORE the vaccine.

And it certainly wasn't in mass use then... I was born in 75 and didn't get

the measles vax until 83.

--interesting considering I had already had measles... twice... I got pox

twice too.... MMR in 93... MMR in 95... Titers never show me as immune.

MY GOD, its amazing I am still alive... just thinking about it makes me run

out to the ER to get an MMR booster....

--whatever!

Re: OMG!! doctors in my son's ped office are replying to

the posts YOU made!!!!

Now he's saying that ALL kids flu vaccine is mercury free and has been

for several years.

The doctor keeps posting more... boy, his attention to this really has

me wondering what he could be nervous about. Check out his latest

comment posted this evening!

kidsdoc wrote on Apr 7, 2008 9:31 PM:

" Facts:

1) ALL kids flu vaccine is mercury free and has been for the past

several years. Supplies are NOT an issue, reluctance of people to

immunize kids because of the kinds of 'false facts' jumping through

this blog.

2) Great example of 'false fact' - jweb94:

(Immu for Measles developed mid 1960s)

year cases deaths

1956 611,000 530

1958 763,000 552

1960 441,000 380

1962 481,000 408

1964 458,000 421

1966 204,000 261

1968 22,000 24

1970 47,000 89

1972 32,000 24

1974 22,000 20

The fact is that vaccine dramatically dcreased the cases and deaths.

Lets stop making stuff up, lets deal in reality. "

[Guest guest]

Ang.......I have a contact at the Beaver Co. Times -- I'm going to see

what I can do about this.

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> > http://www.timesonline.com/articles/2008/03/30/opinion/letters_to_the_

> > editor/doc47ed0fdf73cc7812956782.txt

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