Gerberding: Vaccines can set off damage that leads to autism symptoms

[Guest guest]

Hmmm, why was this information never volunteered before. What else

are they sitting on?

>

> If I read this correctly, Dr. Gerberding is saying that, yes, in

some

> mito cases, vaccines can be the trigger that causes " symptoms that

have

> characteristics of autism "

>

> This part was not in the online video clip.

>

> So, Dr. Gerberding admits a link -- but then denies that it is a

link to

> autism.

>

> The only problem with this line of argument is that I know for a

fact

> that Hannah, and ALL the kids in the new unpublished mito study

were, as

> one doctor told me, " plucked right from the autism clinic. They all

have

> autism, there is no question of that. "

>

> JULIE GERBERDING, DR., CDC DIRECTOR: " Well, you know, I don't have

all

> the facts because I still haven't been able to review the case files

> myself. But my understanding is that the child has a -- what we

think is

> a rare mitochondrial disorder. And children that have this disease,

> anything that stresses them creates a situation where their cells

just

> can't make enough energy to keep their brains functioning normally.

Now,

> we all know that vaccines can occasionally cause fevers in kids. So

if a

> child was immunized, got a fever, had other complications from the

> vaccines. And if you're predisposed with the mitochondrial

disorder, it

> can certainly set off some damage. Some of the symptoms can be

symptoms

> that have characteristics of autism. "

>

> So, complications from vaccines can set off damage that causes

> characteristics of autism (just not autism itself). I don't believe

I

> have ever heard that from a CDC official before, though that doesn't

> mean they never said it. If anyone knows, I would be interested in

the

> citation.

>

> This quote of hers I agree with: " I don't have all the facts "

>

> DK

>

[Guest guest]

Every word out of the Gerberding's mouth is carefully calculated. Tip

for journalists: be very specific with your questions. You almost

have to be an attorney to figure out what she said. This is how the

public and jouralists get mislead.

>

> If I read this correctly, Dr. Gerberding is saying that, yes, in

some

> mito cases, vaccines can be the trigger that causes " symptoms that

have

> characteristics of autism "

>

> This part was not in the online video clip.

>

> So, Dr. Gerberding admits a link -- but then denies that it is a

link to

> autism.

>

> The only problem with this line of argument is that I know for a

fact

> that Hannah, and ALL the kids in the new unpublished mito study

were, as

> one doctor told me, " plucked right from the autism clinic. They all

have

> autism, there is no question of that. "

>

> JULIE GERBERDING, DR., CDC DIRECTOR: " Well, you know, I don't have

all

> the facts because I still haven't been able to review the case files

> myself. But my understanding is that the child has a -- what we

think is

> a rare mitochondrial disorder. And children that have this disease,

> anything that stresses them creates a situation where their cells

just

> can't make enough energy to keep their brains functioning normally.

Now,

> we all know that vaccines can occasionally cause fevers in kids. So

if a

> child was immunized, got a fever, had other complications from the

> vaccines. And if you're predisposed with the mitochondrial

disorder, it

> can certainly set off some damage. Some of the symptoms can be

symptoms

> that have characteristics of autism. "

>

> So, complications from vaccines can set off damage that causes

> characteristics of autism (just not autism itself). I don't believe

I

> have ever heard that from a CDC official before, though that doesn't

> mean they never said it. If anyone knows, I would be interested in

the

> citation.

>

> This quote of hers I agree with: " I don't have all the facts "

>

> DK

>

[Guest guest]

... where is this

quote... I missed it!

trophyfish2 wrote:

Every word out of the Gerberding's mouth is carefully calculated.

Tip

for journalists: be very specific with your questions. You almost

have to be an attorney to figure out what she said. This is how the

public and jouralists get mislead.

>

> If I read this correctly, Dr. Gerberding is saying that, yes, in

some

> mito cases, vaccines can be the trigger that causes "symptoms that

have

> characteristics of autism"

>

> This part was not in the online video clip.

>

> So, Dr. Gerberding admits a link -- but then denies that it is a

link to

> autism.

>

> The only problem with this line of argument is that I know for a

fact

> that Hannah, and ALL the kids in the new unpublished mito study

were, as

> one doctor told me, "plucked right from the autism clinic. They

all

have

> autism, there is no question of that."

>

> JULIE GERBERDING, DR., CDC DIRECTOR: "Well, you know, I don't have

all

> the facts because I still haven't been able to review the case

files

> myself. But my understanding is that the child has a -- what we

think is

> a rare mitochondrial disorder. And children that have this disease,

> anything that stresses them creates a situation where their cells

just

> can't make enough energy to keep their brains functioning

normally.

Now,

> we all know that vaccines can occasionally cause fevers in kids.

So

if a

> child was immunized, got a fever, had other complications from the

> vaccines. And if you're predisposed with the mitochondrial

disorder, it

> can certainly set off some damage. Some of the symptoms can be

symptoms

> that have characteristics of autism."

>

> So, complications from vaccines can set off damage that causes

> characteristics of autism (just not autism itself). I don't

believe

I

> have ever heard that from a CDC official before, though that

doesn't

> mean they never said it. If anyone knows, I would be interested in

the

> citation.

>

> This quote of hers I agree with: "I don't have all the facts"

>

> DK

>

[Guest guest]

If I read this correctly, Dr. Gerberding is saying that, yes, in some

mito cases, vaccines can be the trigger that causes “symptoms that have

characteristics of autism”

This part was not in the online video clip.

So, Dr. Gerberding admits a link -- but then denies that it is a link

to autism.

The only problem with this line of argument is that I know for a fact that

Hannah, and ALL the kids in the new unpublished mito study

were, as one doctor told me, “plucked right from the autism clinic. They

all have autism, there is no question of that.”

JULIE GERBERDING, DR., CDC DIRECTOR: “Well,

you know, I don't have all the facts because I still haven't been able to

review the case files myself. But my understanding is that the child has a --

what we think is a rare mitochondrial disorder. And children that have this

disease, anything that stresses them creates a situation where their cells just

can't make enough energy to keep their brains functioning normally. Now, we all

know that vaccines can occasionally cause fevers in kids. So if a child was immunized, got

a fever, had other complications from the vaccines. And if

you're predisposed with the mitochondrial disorder, it can certainly set off some damage. Some of the

symptoms can be symptoms that have characteristics of autism.”

So, complications from vaccines can set off damage that

causes characteristics of autism (just not autism itself). I don’t believe

I have ever heard that from a CDC official before, though that doesn’t mean

they never said it. If anyone knows, I would be interested in the citation.

This quote of hers I agree with: “I

don't have all the facts”

DK

[Guest guest]

Can someone provide the Director of the CDC of the

United States of America the facts please? Maybe she

should just try using google like the rest of us. Ooop

that is NOT a PEER reviewed site! Sorry. Do you think

that just maybe someone over there has scratched their

head and said, " hmmmmm just what ingredient in our

beautiful vaccines could possibly cause this? " Why?

You know the usual things we expect Dr.s and the like

to do when we bring our kids in for health issues and

autism. " Then again, it is RARE so who cares! "

Perhaps she might want to wait just a little while

longer. How many children get vax'd each day?

Yes, , I do believe the tide is turning. The

rhetoric definetly has changed. I also believe the

spin has begun.

--- Kirby <dkirby@...> wrote:

> If I read this correctly, Dr. Gerberding is saying

> that, yes, in some

> mito cases, vaccines can be the trigger that causes

> " symptoms that have

> characteristics of autism "

>

> This part was not in the online video clip.

>

> So, Dr. Gerberding admits a link -- but then denies

> that it is a link to

> autism.

>

> The only problem with this line of argument is that

> I know for a fact

> that Hannah, and ALL the kids in the new unpublished

> mito study were, as

> one doctor told me, " plucked right from the autism

> clinic. They all have

> autism, there is no question of that. "

>

> JULIE GERBERDING, DR., CDC DIRECTOR: " Well, you

> know, I don't have all

> the facts because I still haven't been able to

> review the case files

> myself. But my understanding is that the child has a

> -- what we think is

> a rare mitochondrial disorder. And children that

> have this disease,

> anything that stresses them creates a situation

> where their cells just

> can't make enough energy to keep their brains

> functioning normally. Now,

> we all know that vaccines can occasionally cause

> fevers in kids. So if a

> child was immunized, got a fever, had other

> complications from the

> vaccines. And if you're predisposed with the

> mitochondrial disorder, it

> can certainly set off some damage. Some of the

> symptoms can be symptoms

> that have characteristics of autism. "

>

> So, complications from vaccines can set off damage

> that causes

> characteristics of autism (just not autism itself).

> I don't believe I

> have ever heard that from a CDC official before,

> though that doesn't

> mean they never said it. If anyone knows, I would be

> interested in the

> citation.

>

> This quote of hers I agree with: " I don't have all

> the facts "

>

> DK

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Gerberding: " Now,

> we all know that vaccines can occasionally cause

> fevers in kids. So if a

> child was immunized, got a fever, had other

> complications from the

> vaccines... "

Our children just saw their neurodevelopmental pediatrician yesterday.

She said the only way to really test for mitochondrial disorders is a

biopsy. Can possibly show some red flags in organic acids tests? Or

in the Krebs cycle?

What I DO know is that,like me, there are many parents of children

with " autistic-like symptoms " who's " child was immunized, got a fever,

had other complications from the vaccines " - like, say, a horrific

body-covering rash? Like, the fever went way, way, up, and then the

baby's temp. plummeted way, way, down while the baby just lay there

with his eyes open? Like, a rush to the ER in the middle of the night?

Am I correct? Just wondering.

[Guest guest]

you are correct, Alison <helloknitty@...> wrote: Gerberding: "Now,> we all know that vaccines can occasionally cause> fevers in kids. So if a> child was immunized, got a fever, had other> complications from the> vaccines..."Our children just saw their neurodevelopmental pediatrician yesterday.She said the only way to really test for mitochondrial disorders is abiopsy. Can possibly show some red flags in organic acids tests? Orin the Krebs cycle?What I DO know

is that,like me, there are many parents of childrenwith "autistic-like symptoms" who's "child was immunized, got a fever,had other complications from the vaccines" - like, say, a horrificbody-covering rash? Like, the fever went way, way, up, and then thebaby's temp. plummeted way, way, down while the baby just lay therewith his eyes open? Like, a rush to the ER in the middle of the night?Am I correct? Just wondering.

Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

[Guest guest]

> What I DO know is that,like me, there are many parents of children

> with " autistic-like symptoms " who's " child was immunized, got a fever,

> had other complications from the vaccines " - like, say, a horrific

> body-covering rash? Like, the fever went way, way, up, and then the

> baby's temp. plummeted way, way, down while the baby just lay there

> with his eyes open? Like, a rush to the ER in the middle of the

night?

>

> Am I correct? Just wondering.

>

BINGO! I had the same kick in the gut feeling watching and reading

about the Polings case ... I too went to my kids pediatrician yesterday

armed with tests from our DAN! doctor showing my son mercury toxic

(DAN! dr. said it was mild to moderate) in September and today is not -

7 months of chelation and he's got energy, is happy, social etc. The

thing that got me thinking was how the mitochondria cells are the

energy cells of the body. Mercury damages them, this is proven now

correct? This the government is not denying?

Perhaps this is the reason why all of a sudden after starting

chelation, my son didn't collapse in my arms or on the sidewalk being

walked out by his aide ... as he's done since kindergarten. He now

sees me, his face lights up and he tells me all about his day ... with

energy and enthusiasm.

So when I discussed testing my son for mitochondrial Disorder there was

a look of confusion and then " I'm not sure insurance will pay for it. "

Does insurance just have something against autism or what? I laughed

and said, " They most certainly will pay for it ... I'll bring my son in

for an exam, a history etc, and believe me there's enough to warrant

testing. Period. " I refuse to pay out of pocket to mainstream medicine

who damaged my children in the first place ...

[Guest guest]

I was at my pedis in January and I said “CJ

had a fever of 105 degrees 48 hours after the MMR and then a full body rash beginning

on his belly 3 days later, I called the office and they said it wasn’t

related” He said calmly, “Well some kids do develop the

measles from the vaccine, that’s probably what happened but that doesn’t

mean it’s related to the autism”. PUKE! After years of

telling him this he finally admits he could have gotten measles from the MMR

but still doesn’t see the relationship with the regression? He even

went over his developmental questionnaires with me again. By 18 months I

was saying “He never sleeps!!” but at 9months “sleeps

great”, etc, and so on. He just seems confused all of the

time. I stay because he saw the regression and doesn’t force me or

question me to vaccinate anymore and he loves my kids but man it would be so

much easier to have someone who understood what I was talking about. The

last thing he said to me was “Who ever figures out the cause of autism is

going to win the Nobel prize” I said in that case, it should have

gone to Bernie Rimland…..-

From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Maurine Meleck

Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008

2:39 PM

EOHarm

Subject: Re: Re:

Gerberding: Vaccines can " set off " damage that leads to autism

symptoms

you are

correct,

Alison

<helloknittymsn> wrote:

Gerberding: " Now,

> we all know that vaccines can occasionally cause

> fevers in kids. So if a

> child was immunized, got a fever, had other

> complications from the

> vaccines... "

Our children just saw their neurodevelopmental pediatrician yesterday.

She said the only way to really test for mitochondrial disorders is a

biopsy. Can possibly show some red flags in organic acids tests? Or

in the Krebs cycle?

What I DO know is that,like me, there are many parents of children

with " autistic-like symptoms " who's " child was immunized, got a

fever,

had other complications from the vaccines " - like, say, a horrific

body-covering rash? Like, the fever went way, way, up, and then the

baby's temp. plummeted way, way, down while the baby just lay there

with his eyes open? Like, a rush to the ER in the middle of the night?

Am I correct? Just wondering.

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