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Dear Deborah,

WOW!!! this totally blew me away! Thank you SO MUCH for sharing! (-:

[ ] Our son's progress

> I feel the need to report at this time my son's progress using ALA.

>

> Some background: received his MMR vaccine at around 18

> months of age. Five days later he was screaming uncontrollably and

> had the classic measles rash all over his body. He was refusing to

> move his arms, hands, neck or legs. He would not reach for his sippy

> cup when I held it out to him. If I put it to his lips he would suck

> like crazy - he was thirsty, but it hurt him so badly to move that he

> would not reach out for his cup. I contacted his pediatrician and

> the office nurse immediately tried to blow the situation off " This

> has nothing to do with his vaccination... " I took him to the local

> health department because I wanted to pick up the papers that say

> " call your doctor if... " because I knew that he was experiencing five

> of the eight things that I had been warned to watch for and I was

> hoping that having some offical " proof " might help me advocate for my

> son at the pediatrician's office.

>

> I walked into the health department with my son wearing only a diaper

> as it was warm outside. This meant that the rash on his body was

> fully exposed. As I stepped up to the counter, a nurse behind the

> counter looked over and suddenly yelled, " Oh my God, that child is

> having a reaction to his MMR vaccine! "

>

> With this nurse's validation in hand, I went searching for a new

> pediatrician. The new pediatrician educated me on the dangers of

> ever having my son receive this vaccination again, but also warned me

> that our state would force him to receive it before admission to

> school at age five. She said that his reaction was not considered

> " serious enough " to warrant an exemption. Although she disagreed

> with the state's standards, she warned me to expect a fight when I

> enrolled him in school. Luckily, I had already begun homeschooling

> my older children, so this was a battle we never had to fight.

>

> After he recovered from the obvious part of the vaccine reaction,

> life went on, but something was wrong with my son that I couldn't

> quite put my finger on. He was extremely bright, with a gigantic

> vocabulary. At age three he told his friend that Barney was fiction,

> and when the friend's mother said, " Wow! I don't think my three-year-

> old even knows the word fiction " , said to the mother,

> " Fiction means pretend " .

>

> We began to have serious troubles with his reactions to other

> people. He would seriously injure someone, with a blank look on his

> face - he was not angry at them, nor did he feel guilty that he had

> hurt anyone. It was as though he didn't even know that he had hurt

> someone. Soon his church teachers were calling me to ask for advice,

> and I didn't know what to tell them. He stayed in his church

> classes maybe two or three minutes before he was off - racing through

> the halls, around and around and around. The energy was endless. He

> stripped his clothes off in public. He shouted out inappropriate

> things at inappropriate times. For example, when the bishop came to

> talk to the children's group about baptism, the bishop asked, " Why is

> it important for us to be baptized? " yelled out at the top

> of his lungs " PEANUT BUTTER AND JELLY! "

>

> Sound bothered him tremendously. The organ, the piano,

> congregational singing, or even being in a large crowd of children

> would have him on the floor writhing with his hands over his ears.

> When he would sing along to the songs, he didn't sing the appropriate

> words. He was obsessed with potty words. So while all the other

> children were sweetly singing " I am a child of God " , he was singing

> (to the same tune) " pee, pee, pee, poop, poop, poop " .

>

> Many people just thought that he was AD/HD and we should just put him

> on Ritalin. But there were things that just didn't fit with this

> diagnosis. One was the silly grin he got on his face whenever he did

> one of these " behaviors " . I have other children, and I know how they

> look when they are caught doing something wrong: guilty, indignant,

> smug... but not blank eyes and an insane grin...

>

> People visiting our home was a nightmare. I would spend the entire

> time holding my son in his bedroom so that others in the family could

> enjoy the social experience. As soon as my son noticed someone at

> the door, he would race screeching around the room, so loudly that it

> was impossible to carry on a conversation with the guest. Then began

> the random hitting and pushing of guests or siblings until I carried

> him kicking from the room. The strangest thing about these incidents

> was that when I separated him, he would begin to cry that he wanted

> to play with the friends that were there, he didn't want to miss the

> time with them. He wanted to interact, but didn't know how. When he

> wanted to play a game with someone, he would " ask " by knocking their

> game board over and then smiling insanely at them. And he never

> understood why they got angry at him for that. He would cry and cry

> and cry. This summer his uncles built some incredible sand castles

> at the lake: they were built like the Pueblo Indians' adobe homes.

> thought they looked so cool and fun! He wanted to build

> with them too - so he stomped on their castles and grinned at them.

> He didn't understand why he was carried off to Time-Out. (By this

> time he was almost six years old and should have been old enough to

> understand.)

>

> Interactions with this child were so hard that one set of his

> grandparents no longer allowed him in their home. The other set of

> grandparents had spanked him at church without our permission.

>

> was rigid and inflexible. He could not handle change. One

> day he had to be carried home from church two hours early because his

> class was asked to sit in a different row than usual.

>

> I had to distract him when I heard the trash truck coming down the

> street. One week he had watched the garbage men load our trash into

> the truck and it had led to over an hour of kicking and screaming,

> " That was OUR trash. BRING IT BAAAAAAACK! "

>

> He did not let us touch or hold him. We are a family that carries

> our babies in slings and extended-breastfeeds and gives infant

> massages, and since his vaccine reaction he would not snuggle or

> allow us to hug or touch him.

>

> One particular incident in his violent behavior occurred right before

> we started using the ALA. His baby brother was playing in the dirt

> at the base of a tree. went over to the toddler, grabbed

> the back of his head, and banged his forehead three times into the

> tree trunk. When I grabbed and turned him to face me, he

> had that insane grin on his face, and I could tell that nothing I was

> saying, ( " NOOO! We don't do that!! That hurts!!!! Do you see him

> crying?) was registering in his brain. I learned to cope by always

> keeping away from other children - his own siblings and any

> neighborhood or other friends that might come to our home to play.

> Keeping away from other children was a full-time job -

> remember, he WANTED to play with him, he had a genuine need to

> interact, but he didn't know how to do so appropriately.

>

> This summer I was introduced to ALA by a friend who is using it with

> her autistic daughter. She showed me Dr. Amy's article on " Autism, a

> unique kind of mercury poisoning " . The article clicked. Saying that

> my son had Asperger's Syndrome fit like nothing else ever had. I

> felt like the ALA was safe, and like I could handle dosage

> adjustments on my own. There would be no need to hunt and search for

> a supportive doctor. I decided to give it six weeks and see if it

> would make a difference. This is how we did it: 1/4 mg per pound of

> body weight (this meant opening the capsule and dividing it into

> fourths, since he was 50 lbs and the capsule was 50 mg) mixed with a

> spoonful of applesauce, every three hours around the clock for three

> days, then off for four days.

>

> During the second week two things occurred that were testimony to me

> that the ALA was working. The first situation was when the baby

> brother took away a train that was playing with. I lunged

> to protect the baby, knowing that was going to clobber him.

> Instead I heard saying, " Oh, so you want to play with the

> train too? Here, let me show you how to do it... " He lined the

> train up on the bed and got another train for himself (allowing the

> baby to have the train he had originally had) and the two of them

> made their trains choo-choo along the bed's edge. I watched the

> scene with a quiet sense of awe: I had never seen play WITH

> another child before. I had seen him playing ALONGSIDE other

> children, but never before had I seen him able to empathize with

> another child's needs, and then line himself up to interact with that

> other child's play.

>

> During that same week another incident occurred. My husband was away

> for the evening, and I carried out our normal bedtime routine of

> having the children gather to read from the scriptures and have a

> famiy prayer. After the prayer, I remained kneeling on the floor in

> the quiet, just regrouping for a moment after a busy day. The

> children were going off to their bedrooms and the living room was

> quiet for a minute. Suddenly I was aware that someone was still

> behind me. I was wrapped in an embrace from behind, someone who

> clung to me so sweetly for a moment, and then kissed me. I turned

> around expecting to see any of my five children except the one that I

> did see - it was . It took me a moment to recover - I think

> I actually froze for a minute because suddenly I realized that he was

> standing in a strange position. His head was down and he had his

> finger on his forehead. I thought for a minute, and suddenly I

> understood! I exclaimed, " You want ME to kiss YOU? " He nodded

> shyly. I asked, " Right here, on your forehead where your finger

> is? " He nodded again shyly and I kissed him softly on his forehead.

> Then without a word, he trotted happily off to bed. He had not let

> me hug or kiss him for four and a half long years, and now he was

> asking me for affection.

>

> We have done a total of eight cycles of ALA. At one point we noticed

> that he was better behaved during the " ON " than the " OFF " so we

> started doing six days on, eight days off, which meant less adjusting

> for him from on to off. This worked well for him. During his

> seventh cycle, he became very agressive, and so we halved his dose so

> that he was now getting 1/8 mg per lb of his weight, and his behavior

> calmed again. It is obvious that stuff is being cleaned out of his

> brain because with every cycle, he experiences new growth.

>

> Let me tell you the differences we have seen after only eight cycles.

>

> His new teacher at church just said to me, " I don't know what all the

> warnings about were before I took this class. He is easy. "

>

> The woman that works in the presidency of the children's church

> organization called me this week. She said, " I can't believe the

> change in your son. When I first started working with him (a year

> and a half ago), the goal was to keep his clothes on him. Now he

> sits with his arms folded and listens and half the Sundays when I go

> home, I have to ask myself whether he was at church or not. He is so

> reverent that you could miss him if you aren't looking for him. "

>

> My parents (the grandparents who didn't allow him in their home) let

> us stay at their house for two days over Christmas because my brother

> was getting married closeby. Afterwards my mother said, " We can't

> believe how well did! What a change that was from this

> summer. " There had not been a single incident while we were in their

> home. (They had seen him in August, right before we started the

> ALA. This was the family reunion where he destroyed the sand castles

> and knocked over the game.)

>

> The other grandparents (who live just five minutes away) pulled my

> husband aside privately to tell him that they didn't know what we

> were doing for , but it was really working.

>

> My son's particular genuis/obsession is in the area of " how things

> work " , from electronics to the human body to appliances. As a

> special treat, we have allowed him to have an electric train in his

> bedroom. He and his brother have built a double decker winding track

> that has to be propped on blocks as it winds its way around their

> bedroom and through the tunnels they have built from Legos, etc. At

> my other son's birthday party, one of the guests went into the boys'

> bedroom and destroyed the track. He threw the trains around the room

> and bent and broke the track pieces. When we discovered it,

> was understandably distraught. He had his hands over his ears like

> he does when he is about to lose it, and I thought to myself, " This

> is it. I am going to be holding this child in this bedroom for the

> remainder of the party. I am going to miss seeing my other son blow

> out his birthday candles... " I said to , " What did was

> very wrong. He should not have done that to your train. Poppa knows

> how to fix your train, but right now he is doing the games for

> 's party. He can't fix it right now, but he can fix it after

> the party. " Imagine my jaw dropping as my son wiped his eyes and ran

> to join the line of children who were playing the next game.

>

> At Christmastime, my husband and I left the children with their

> grandma while we went to an office party. She took the children to a

> fast food restaurant and then to a church Christmas party. At the

> party, there was a buffet dinner, and suddenly was on the

> floor crying. Grandma asked him what was wrong, and he said, " The

> line is too long. All the food will be gone before I get there. "

> (Being able to vocalize what is wrong is a new skill for him. Before

> the ALA he just screamed like an animal in distress when you asked

> him what was wrong. We would just end up having to load him in the

> car and take him home because he was so out of control.) Grandma

> took him in the hall and said, " You already ate at the fast food

> place, and there is a lot of food in there. There will still be food

> when we get up to the serving tables. " He still looked sad, and

> Grandma said, " I can take you home if you would like me to. What do

> you want to do? " said, " I think I just need to decide to go

> in there and have a good time. " And he dried his tears and trotted

> off and there was not another problem that evening.

>

> We are not done with ALA. There are still symptoms of mercury

> toxicity, but in just four months we have gone from almost unbearable

> and intolerable to very workable. I am willing to have anyone

> contact me who wants more information or details.

>

> Deborah Warner

> ville, FL

>

>

>

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Deborah,

Thank you for sharing this with us.

How old is your son and has he tried GFCF diet? Sounds like he did not

have mercury test?

ALA is the only change? Wow!

mt

bdwarner@... wrote:

> I feel the need to report at this time my son's progress using ALA.

>

> Some background: received his MMR vaccine at around 18

> months of age. Five days later he was screaming uncontrollably and

> had the classic measles rash all over his body. He was refusing to

> move his arms, hands, neck or legs. He would not reach for his sippy

> cup when I held it out to him. If I put it to his lips he would suck

> like crazy - he was thirsty, but it hurt him so badly to move that he

> would not reach out for his cup. I contacted his pediatrician and

> the office nurse immediately tried to blow the situation off " This

> has nothing to do with his vaccination... " I took him to the local

> health department because I wanted to pick up the papers that say

> " call your doctor if... " because I knew that he was experiencing five

> of the eight things that I had been warned to watch for and I was

> hoping that having some offical " proof " might help me advocate for my

> son at the pediatrician's office.

>

> I walked into the health department with my son wearing only a diaper

> as it was warm outside. This meant that the rash on his body was

> fully exposed. As I stepped up to the counter, a nurse behind the

> counter looked over and suddenly yelled, " Oh my God, that child is

> having a reaction to his MMR vaccine! "

>

> With this nurse's validation in hand, I went searching for a new

> pediatrician. The new pediatrician educated me on the dangers of

> ever having my son receive this vaccination again, but also warned me

> that our state would force him to receive it before admission to

> school at age five. She said that his reaction was not considered

> " serious enough " to warrant an exemption. Although she disagreed

> with the state's standards, she warned me to expect a fight when I

> enrolled him in school. Luckily, I had already begun homeschooling

> my older children, so this was a battle we never had to fight.

>

> After he recovered from the obvious part of the vaccine reaction,

> life went on, but something was wrong with my son that I couldn't

> quite put my finger on. He was extremely bright, with a gigantic

> vocabulary. At age three he told his friend that Barney was fiction,

> and when the friend's mother said, " Wow! I don't think my three-year-

> old even knows the word fiction " , said to the mother,

> " Fiction means pretend " .

>

> We began to have serious troubles with his reactions to other

> people. He would seriously injure someone, with a blank look on his

> face - he was not angry at them, nor did he feel guilty that he had

> hurt anyone. It was as though he didn't even know that he had hurt

> someone. Soon his church teachers were calling me to ask for advice,

> and I didn't know what to tell them. He stayed in his church

> classes maybe two or three minutes before he was off - racing through

> the halls, around and around and around. The energy was endless. He

> stripped his clothes off in public. He shouted out inappropriate

> things at inappropriate times. For example, when the bishop came to

> talk to the children's group about baptism, the bishop asked, " Why is

> it important for us to be baptized? " yelled out at the top

> of his lungs " PEANUT BUTTER AND JELLY! "

>

> Sound bothered him tremendously. The organ, the piano,

> congregational singing, or even being in a large crowd of children

> would have him on the floor writhing with his hands over his ears.

> When he would sing along to the songs, he didn't sing the appropriate

> words. He was obsessed with potty words. So while all the other

> children were sweetly singing " I am a child of God " , he was singing

> (to the same tune) " pee, pee, pee, poop, poop, poop " .

>

> Many people just thought that he was AD/HD and we should just put him

> on Ritalin. But there were things that just didn't fit with this

> diagnosis. One was the silly grin he got on his face whenever he did

> one of these " behaviors " . I have other children, and I know how they

> look when they are caught doing something wrong: guilty, indignant,

> smug... but not blank eyes and an insane grin...

>

> People visiting our home was a nightmare. I would spend the entire

> time holding my son in his bedroom so that others in the family could

> enjoy the social experience. As soon as my son noticed someone at

> the door, he would race screeching around the room, so loudly that it

> was impossible to carry on a conversation with the guest. Then began

> the random hitting and pushing of guests or siblings until I carried

> him kicking from the room. The strangest thing about these incidents

> was that when I separated him, he would begin to cry that he wanted

> to play with the friends that were there, he didn't want to miss the

> time with them. He wanted to interact, but didn't know how. When he

> wanted to play a game with someone, he would " ask " by knocking their

> game board over and then smiling insanely at them. And he never

> understood why they got angry at him for that. He would cry and cry

> and cry. This summer his uncles built some incredible sand castles

> at the lake: they were built like the Pueblo Indians' adobe homes.

> thought they looked so cool and fun! He wanted to build

> with them too - so he stomped on their castles and grinned at them.

> He didn't understand why he was carried off to Time-Out. (By this

> time he was almost six years old and should have been old enough to

> understand.)

>

> Interactions with this child were so hard that one set of his

> grandparents no longer allowed him in their home. The other set of

> grandparents had spanked him at church without our permission.

>

> was rigid and inflexible. He could not handle change. One

> day he had to be carried home from church two hours early because his

> class was asked to sit in a different row than usual.

>

> I had to distract him when I heard the trash truck coming down the

> street. One week he had watched the garbage men load our trash into

> the truck and it had led to over an hour of kicking and screaming,

> " That was OUR trash. BRING IT BAAAAAAACK! "

>

> He did not let us touch or hold him. We are a family that carries

> our babies in slings and extended-breastfeeds and gives infant

> massages, and since his vaccine reaction he would not snuggle or

> allow us to hug or touch him.

>

> One particular incident in his violent behavior occurred right before

> we started using the ALA. His baby brother was playing in the dirt

> at the base of a tree. went over to the toddler, grabbed

> the back of his head, and banged his forehead three times into the

> tree trunk. When I grabbed and turned him to face me, he

> had that insane grin on his face, and I could tell that nothing I was

> saying, ( " NOOO! We don't do that!! That hurts!!!! Do you see him

> crying?) was registering in his brain. I learned to cope by always

> keeping away from other children - his own siblings and any

> neighborhood or other friends that might come to our home to play.

> Keeping away from other children was a full-time job -

> remember, he WANTED to play with him, he had a genuine need to

> interact, but he didn't know how to do so appropriately.

>

> This summer I was introduced to ALA by a friend who is using it with

> her autistic daughter. She showed me Dr. Amy's article on " Autism, a

> unique kind of mercury poisoning " . The article clicked. Saying that

> my son had Asperger's Syndrome fit like nothing else ever had. I

> felt like the ALA was safe, and like I could handle dosage

> adjustments on my own. There would be no need to hunt and search for

> a supportive doctor. I decided to give it six weeks and see if it

> would make a difference. This is how we did it: 1/4 mg per pound of

> body weight (this meant opening the capsule and dividing it into

> fourths, since he was 50 lbs and the capsule was 50 mg) mixed with a

> spoonful of applesauce, every three hours around the clock for three

> days, then off for four days.

>

> During the second week two things occurred that were testimony to me

> that the ALA was working. The first situation was when the baby

> brother took away a train that was playing with. I lunged

> to protect the baby, knowing that was going to clobber him.

> Instead I heard saying, " Oh, so you want to play with the

> train too? Here, let me show you how to do it... " He lined the

> train up on the bed and got another train for himself (allowing the

> baby to have the train he had originally had) and the two of them

> made their trains choo-choo along the bed's edge. I watched the

> scene with a quiet sense of awe: I had never seen play WITH

> another child before. I had seen him playing ALONGSIDE other

> children, but never before had I seen him able to empathize with

> another child's needs, and then line himself up to interact with that

> other child's play.

>

> During that same week another incident occurred. My husband was away

> for the evening, and I carried out our normal bedtime routine of

> having the children gather to read from the scriptures and have a

> famiy prayer. After the prayer, I remained kneeling on the floor in

> the quiet, just regrouping for a moment after a busy day. The

> children were going off to their bedrooms and the living room was

> quiet for a minute. Suddenly I was aware that someone was still

> behind me. I was wrapped in an embrace from behind, someone who

> clung to me so sweetly for a moment, and then kissed me. I turned

> around expecting to see any of my five children except the one that I

> did see - it was . It took me a moment to recover - I think

> I actually froze for a minute because suddenly I realized that he was

> standing in a strange position. His head was down and he had his

> finger on his forehead. I thought for a minute, and suddenly I

> understood! I exclaimed, " You want ME to kiss YOU? " He nodded

> shyly. I asked, " Right here, on your forehead where your finger

> is? " He nodded again shyly and I kissed him softly on his forehead.

> Then without a word, he trotted happily off to bed. He had not let

> me hug or kiss him for four and a half long years, and now he was

> asking me for affection.

>

> We have done a total of eight cycles of ALA. At one point we noticed

> that he was better behaved during the " ON " than the " OFF " so we

> started doing six days on, eight days off, which meant less adjusting

> for him from on to off. This worked well for him. During his

> seventh cycle, he became very agressive, and so we halved his dose so

> that he was now getting 1/8 mg per lb of his weight, and his behavior

> calmed again. It is obvious that stuff is being cleaned out of his

> brain because with every cycle, he experiences new growth.

>

> Let me tell you the differences we have seen after only eight cycles.

>

> His new teacher at church just said to me, " I don't know what all the

> warnings about were before I took this class. He is easy. "

>

> The woman that works in the presidency of the children's church

> organization called me this week. She said, " I can't believe the

> change in your son. When I first started working with him (a year

> and a half ago), the goal was to keep his clothes on him. Now he

> sits with his arms folded and listens and half the Sundays when I go

> home, I have to ask myself whether he was at church or not. He is so

> reverent that you could miss him if you aren't looking for him. "

>

> My parents (the grandparents who didn't allow him in their home) let

> us stay at their house for two days over Christmas because my brother

> was getting married closeby. Afterwards my mother said, " We can't

> believe how well did! What a change that was from this

> summer. " There had not been a single incident while we were in their

> home. (They had seen him in August, right before we started the

> ALA. This was the family reunion where he destroyed the sand castles

> and knocked over the game.)

>

> The other grandparents (who live just five minutes away) pulled my

> husband aside privately to tell him that they didn't know what we

> were doing for , but it was really working.

>

> My son's particular genuis/obsession is in the area of " how things

> work " , from electronics to the human body to appliances. As a

> special treat, we have allowed him to have an electric train in his

> bedroom. He and his brother have built a double decker winding track

> that has to be propped on blocks as it winds its way around their

> bedroom and through the tunnels they have built from Legos, etc. At

> my other son's birthday party, one of the guests went into the boys'

> bedroom and destroyed the track. He threw the trains around the room

> and bent and broke the track pieces. When we discovered it,

> was understandably distraught. He had his hands over his ears like

> he does when he is about to lose it, and I thought to myself, " This

> is it. I am going to be holding this child in this bedroom for the

> remainder of the party. I am going to miss seeing my other son blow

> out his birthday candles... " I said to , " What did was

> very wrong. He should not have done that to your train. Poppa knows

> how to fix your train, but right now he is doing the games for

> 's party. He can't fix it right now, but he can fix it after

> the party. " Imagine my jaw dropping as my son wiped his eyes and ran

> to join the line of children who were playing the next game.

>

> At Christmastime, my husband and I left the children with their

> grandma while we went to an office party. She took the children to a

> fast food restaurant and then to a church Christmas party. At the

> party, there was a buffet dinner, and suddenly was on the

> floor crying. Grandma asked him what was wrong, and he said, " The

> line is too long. All the food will be gone before I get there. "

> (Being able to vocalize what is wrong is a new skill for him. Before

> the ALA he just screamed like an animal in distress when you asked

> him what was wrong. We would just end up having to load him in the

> car and take him home because he was so out of control.) Grandma

> took him in the hall and said, " You already ate at the fast food

> place, and there is a lot of food in there. There will still be food

> when we get up to the serving tables. " He still looked sad, and

> Grandma said, " I can take you home if you would like me to. What do

> you want to do? " said, " I think I just need to decide to go

> in there and have a good time. " And he dried his tears and trotted

> off and there was not another problem that evening.

>

> We are not done with ALA. There are still symptoms of mercury

> toxicity, but in just four months we have gone from almost unbearable

> and intolerable to very workable. I am willing to have anyone

> contact me who wants more information or details.

>

> Deborah Warner

> ville, FL

>

>

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Thank you so much, Doborah for giving this information to us. You obviously

know your son very well and follow his progress so precisely. My son is on

both DMSA and ALA and we have seen many of the same things. One things I

haven't seen is a change in the monotone my son speaks in. His language

may not be as good as you son's but it is also improving on this chelation.

I have now decided to not give any more adderall to my son. We have done 11

weeks and on the last cycle, increase the ALA to 100mg. Our son now takes:

100 DMSA and 100 ALA

every three hours for 3 days on and 4 off. He is 10 years old and weighs

about 91 pounds. He did even better this past week on the new upped ALA

amount. I now notice that the " off days " are much better for him. More

improvements are carrying over. I still haven't gotten a test back from my

doctor to indicate what is coming out. The conventional lab at my HMO

couldn't do it right. Yesterday, I convinced them to do a 24 hour urine

toxic and essential metal test with DDI. The head of the lab said, " I'll

do it, but only once. " How little they understand what is happening

here.....

Aly

[ ] Our son's progress

> I feel the need to report at this time my son's progress using ALA.

>

> Some background: received his MMR vaccine at around 18

> months of age. Five days later he was screaming uncontrollably and

> had the classic measles rash all over his body. He was refusing to

> move his arms, hands, neck or legs. He would not reach for his sippy

> cup when I held it out to him. If I put it to his lips he would suck

> like crazy - he was thirsty, but it hurt him so badly to move that he

> would not reach out for his cup. I contacted his pediatrician and

> the office nurse immediately tried to blow the situation off " This

> has nothing to do with his vaccination... " I took him to the local

> health department because I wanted to pick up the papers that say

> " call your doctor if... " because I knew that he was experiencing five

> of the eight things that I had been warned to watch for and I was

> hoping that having some offical " proof " might help me advocate for my

> son at the pediatrician's office.

>

> I walked into the health department with my son wearing only a diaper

> as it was warm outside. This meant that the rash on his body was

> fully exposed. As I stepped up to the counter, a nurse behind the

> counter looked over and suddenly yelled, " Oh my God, that child is

> having a reaction to his MMR vaccine! "

>

> With this nurse's validation in hand, I went searching for a new

> pediatrician. The new pediatrician educated me on the dangers of

> ever having my son receive this vaccination again, but also warned me

> that our state would force him to receive it before admission to

> school at age five. She said that his reaction was not considered

> " serious enough " to warrant an exemption. Although she disagreed

> with the state's standards, she warned me to expect a fight when I

> enrolled him in school. Luckily, I had already begun homeschooling

> my older children, so this was a battle we never had to fight.

>

> After he recovered from the obvious part of the vaccine reaction,

> life went on, but something was wrong with my son that I couldn't

> quite put my finger on. He was extremely bright, with a gigantic

> vocabulary. At age three he told his friend that Barney was fiction,

> and when the friend's mother said, " Wow! I don't think my three-year-

> old even knows the word fiction " , said to the mother,

> " Fiction means pretend " .

>

> We began to have serious troubles with his reactions to other

> people. He would seriously injure someone, with a blank look on his

> face - he was not angry at them, nor did he feel guilty that he had

> hurt anyone. It was as though he didn't even know that he had hurt

> someone. Soon his church teachers were calling me to ask for advice,

> and I didn't know what to tell them. He stayed in his church

> classes maybe two or three minutes before he was off - racing through

> the halls, around and around and around. The energy was endless. He

> stripped his clothes off in public. He shouted out inappropriate

> things at inappropriate times. For example, when the bishop came to

> talk to the children's group about baptism, the bishop asked, " Why is

> it important for us to be baptized? " yelled out at the top

> of his lungs " PEANUT BUTTER AND JELLY! "

>

> Sound bothered him tremendously. The organ, the piano,

> congregational singing, or even being in a large crowd of children

> would have him on the floor writhing with his hands over his ears.

> When he would sing along to the songs, he didn't sing the appropriate

> words. He was obsessed with potty words. So while all the other

> children were sweetly singing " I am a child of God " , he was singing

> (to the same tune) " pee, pee, pee, poop, poop, poop " .

>

> Many people just thought that he was AD/HD and we should just put him

> on Ritalin. But there were things that just didn't fit with this

> diagnosis. One was the silly grin he got on his face whenever he did

> one of these " behaviors " . I have other children, and I know how they

> look when they are caught doing something wrong: guilty, indignant,

> smug... but not blank eyes and an insane grin...

>

> People visiting our home was a nightmare. I would spend the entire

> time holding my son in his bedroom so that others in the family could

> enjoy the social experience. As soon as my son noticed someone at

> the door, he would race screeching around the room, so loudly that it

> was impossible to carry on a conversation with the guest. Then began

> the random hitting and pushing of guests or siblings until I carried

> him kicking from the room. The strangest thing about these incidents

> was that when I separated him, he would begin to cry that he wanted

> to play with the friends that were there, he didn't want to miss the

> time with them. He wanted to interact, but didn't know how. When he

> wanted to play a game with someone, he would " ask " by knocking their

> game board over and then smiling insanely at them. And he never

> understood why they got angry at him for that. He would cry and cry

> and cry. This summer his uncles built some incredible sand castles

> at the lake: they were built like the Pueblo Indians' adobe homes.

> thought they looked so cool and fun! He wanted to build

> with them too - so he stomped on their castles and grinned at them.

> He didn't understand why he was carried off to Time-Out. (By this

> time he was almost six years old and should have been old enough to

> understand.)

>

> Interactions with this child were so hard that one set of his

> grandparents no longer allowed him in their home. The other set of

> grandparents had spanked him at church without our permission.

>

> was rigid and inflexible. He could not handle change. One

> day he had to be carried home from church two hours early because his

> class was asked to sit in a different row than usual.

>

> I had to distract him when I heard the trash truck coming down the

> street. One week he had watched the garbage men load our trash into

> the truck and it had led to over an hour of kicking and screaming,

> " That was OUR trash. BRING IT BAAAAAAACK! "

>

> He did not let us touch or hold him. We are a family that carries

> our babies in slings and extended-breastfeeds and gives infant

> massages, and since his vaccine reaction he would not snuggle or

> allow us to hug or touch him.

>

> One particular incident in his violent behavior occurred right before

> we started using the ALA. His baby brother was playing in the dirt

> at the base of a tree. went over to the toddler, grabbed

> the back of his head, and banged his forehead three times into the

> tree trunk. When I grabbed and turned him to face me, he

> had that insane grin on his face, and I could tell that nothing I was

> saying, ( " NOOO! We don't do that!! That hurts!!!! Do you see him

> crying?) was registering in his brain. I learned to cope by always

> keeping away from other children - his own siblings and any

> neighborhood or other friends that might come to our home to play.

> Keeping away from other children was a full-time job -

> remember, he WANTED to play with him, he had a genuine need to

> interact, but he didn't know how to do so appropriately.

>

> This summer I was introduced to ALA by a friend who is using it with

> her autistic daughter. She showed me Dr. Amy's article on " Autism, a

> unique kind of mercury poisoning " . The article clicked. Saying that

> my son had Asperger's Syndrome fit like nothing else ever had. I

> felt like the ALA was safe, and like I could handle dosage

> adjustments on my own. There would be no need to hunt and search for

> a supportive doctor. I decided to give it six weeks and see if it

> would make a difference. This is how we did it: 1/4 mg per pound of

> body weight (this meant opening the capsule and dividing it into

> fourths, since he was 50 lbs and the capsule was 50 mg) mixed with a

> spoonful of applesauce, every three hours around the clock for three

> days, then off for four days.

>

> During the second week two things occurred that were testimony to me

> that the ALA was working. The first situation was when the baby

> brother took away a train that was playing with. I lunged

> to protect the baby, knowing that was going to clobber him.

> Instead I heard saying, " Oh, so you want to play with the

> train too? Here, let me show you how to do it... " He lined the

> train up on the bed and got another train for himself (allowing the

> baby to have the train he had originally had) and the two of them

> made their trains choo-choo along the bed's edge. I watched the

> scene with a quiet sense of awe: I had never seen play WITH

> another child before. I had seen him playing ALONGSIDE other

> children, but never before had I seen him able to empathize with

> another child's needs, and then line himself up to interact with that

> other child's play.

>

> During that same week another incident occurred. My husband was away

> for the evening, and I carried out our normal bedtime routine of

> having the children gather to read from the scriptures and have a

> famiy prayer. After the prayer, I remained kneeling on the floor in

> the quiet, just regrouping for a moment after a busy day. The

> children were going off to their bedrooms and the living room was

> quiet for a minute. Suddenly I was aware that someone was still

> behind me. I was wrapped in an embrace from behind, someone who

> clung to me so sweetly for a moment, and then kissed me. I turned

> around expecting to see any of my five children except the one that I

> did see - it was . It took me a moment to recover - I think

> I actually froze for a minute because suddenly I realized that he was

> standing in a strange position. His head was down and he had his

> finger on his forehead. I thought for a minute, and suddenly I

> understood! I exclaimed, " You want ME to kiss YOU? " He nodded

> shyly. I asked, " Right here, on your forehead where your finger

> is? " He nodded again shyly and I kissed him softly on his forehead.

> Then without a word, he trotted happily off to bed. He had not let

> me hug or kiss him for four and a half long years, and now he was

> asking me for affection.

>

> We have done a total of eight cycles of ALA. At one point we noticed

> that he was better behaved during the " ON " than the " OFF " so we

> started doing six days on, eight days off, which meant less adjusting

> for him from on to off. This worked well for him. During his

> seventh cycle, he became very agressive, and so we halved his dose so

> that he was now getting 1/8 mg per lb of his weight, and his behavior

> calmed again. It is obvious that stuff is being cleaned out of his

> brain because with every cycle, he experiences new growth.

>

> Let me tell you the differences we have seen after only eight cycles.

>

> His new teacher at church just said to me, " I don't know what all the

> warnings about were before I took this class. He is easy. "

>

> The woman that works in the presidency of the children's church

> organization called me this week. She said, " I can't believe the

> change in your son. When I first started working with him (a year

> and a half ago), the goal was to keep his clothes on him. Now he

> sits with his arms folded and listens and half the Sundays when I go

> home, I have to ask myself whether he was at church or not. He is so

> reverent that you could miss him if you aren't looking for him. "

>

> My parents (the grandparents who didn't allow him in their home) let

> us stay at their house for two days over Christmas because my brother

> was getting married closeby. Afterwards my mother said, " We can't

> believe how well did! What a change that was from this

> summer. " There had not been a single incident while we were in their

> home. (They had seen him in August, right before we started the

> ALA. This was the family reunion where he destroyed the sand castles

> and knocked over the game.)

>

> The other grandparents (who live just five minutes away) pulled my

> husband aside privately to tell him that they didn't know what we

> were doing for , but it was really working.

>

> My son's particular genuis/obsession is in the area of " how things

> work " , from electronics to the human body to appliances. As a

> special treat, we have allowed him to have an electric train in his

> bedroom. He and his brother have built a double decker winding track

> that has to be propped on blocks as it winds its way around their

> bedroom and through the tunnels they have built from Legos, etc. At

> my other son's birthday party, one of the guests went into the boys'

> bedroom and destroyed the track. He threw the trains around the room

> and bent and broke the track pieces. When we discovered it,

> was understandably distraught. He had his hands over his ears like

> he does when he is about to lose it, and I thought to myself, " This

> is it. I am going to be holding this child in this bedroom for the

> remainder of the party. I am going to miss seeing my other son blow

> out his birthday candles... " I said to , " What did was

> very wrong. He should not have done that to your train. Poppa knows

> how to fix your train, but right now he is doing the games for

> 's party. He can't fix it right now, but he can fix it after

> the party. " Imagine my jaw dropping as my son wiped his eyes and ran

> to join the line of children who were playing the next game.

>

> At Christmastime, my husband and I left the children with their

> grandma while we went to an office party. She took the children to a

> fast food restaurant and then to a church Christmas party. At the

> party, there was a buffet dinner, and suddenly was on the

> floor crying. Grandma asked him what was wrong, and he said, " The

> line is too long. All the food will be gone before I get there. "

> (Being able to vocalize what is wrong is a new skill for him. Before

> the ALA he just screamed like an animal in distress when you asked

> him what was wrong. We would just end up having to load him in the

> car and take him home because he was so out of control.) Grandma

> took him in the hall and said, " You already ate at the fast food

> place, and there is a lot of food in there. There will still be food

> when we get up to the serving tables. " He still looked sad, and

> Grandma said, " I can take you home if you would like me to. What do

> you want to do? " said, " I think I just need to decide to go

> in there and have a good time. " And he dried his tears and trotted

> off and there was not another problem that evening.

>

> We are not done with ALA. There are still symptoms of mercury

> toxicity, but in just four months we have gone from almost unbearable

> and intolerable to very workable. I am willing to have anyone

> contact me who wants more information or details.

>

> Deborah Warner

> ville, FL

>

>

>

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Deborah,

I again want to tell you thank you for being such a good observer of

behavior in your son. I was taken by your post because so much of what your

son does - my son does. The " poop and Pee Pee " story is so familiar.

Adam will look for embarrassing pictures in his Simpson books where Homer or

Bart are showing their buts. Adam loves this bathroom humor. My

behaviorist said it could be reduced by showing Adam " thumbs down " on

off-color jokes - and thumbs up on good, funny jokes.

When Adam was between 2 and 4 years of age, his only word to everything was

NO. In fact, I would read volumes of material and believe that he had

Oppositional Disorder, in additional to being PDD NOS. This chelation has

reduced that negativity. Also, when we did

high dosage prednisone treatment, the opposition and negativity completely

vanished. He became Mr. Compliant. Regarding the kissing and more

affection:

I have seen this, too, especially on the 2nd " on " day of chelation. Adam

becomes in love with the world. Many times in a day, he will hug and give

me kisses. He will play hilariously with his older sister and be just so

content. I think this stuff is kind of an aphrodisiac (just let that get

out to the general public). Maybe the problems of road rage, or people with

anger control problems should be on this vitamin, too. Thanks again for your

complete stories.

Aly

[ ] Our son's progress

> I feel the need to report at this time my son's progress using ALA.

>

> Some background: received his MMR vaccine at around 18

> months of age. Five days later he was screaming uncontrollably and

> had the classic measles rash all over his body. He was refusing to

> move his arms, hands, neck or legs. He would not reach for his sippy

> cup when I held it out to him. If I put it to his lips he would suck

> like crazy - he was thirsty, but it hurt him so badly to move that he

> would not reach out for his cup. I contacted his pediatrician and

> the office nurse immediately tried to blow the situation off " This

> has nothing to do with his vaccination... " I took him to the local

> health department because I wanted to pick up the papers that say

> " call your doctor if... " because I knew that he was experiencing five

> of the eight things that I had been warned to watch for and I was

> hoping that having some offical " proof " might help me advocate for my

> son at the pediatrician's office.

>

> I walked into the health department with my son wearing only a diaper

> as it was warm outside. This meant that the rash on his body was

> fully exposed. As I stepped up to the counter, a nurse behind the

> counter looked over and suddenly yelled, " Oh my God, that child is

> having a reaction to his MMR vaccine! "

>

> With this nurse's validation in hand, I went searching for a new

> pediatrician. The new pediatrician educated me on the dangers of

> ever having my son receive this vaccination again, but also warned me

> that our state would force him to receive it before admission to

> school at age five. She said that his reaction was not considered

> " serious enough " to warrant an exemption. Although she disagreed

> with the state's standards, she warned me to expect a fight when I

> enrolled him in school. Luckily, I had already begun homeschooling

> my older children, so this was a battle we never had to fight.

>

> After he recovered from the obvious part of the vaccine reaction,

> life went on, but something was wrong with my son that I couldn't

> quite put my finger on. He was extremely bright, with a gigantic

> vocabulary. At age three he told his friend that Barney was fiction,

> and when the friend's mother said, " Wow! I don't think my three-year-

> old even knows the word fiction " , said to the mother,

> " Fiction means pretend " .

>

> We began to have serious troubles with his reactions to other

> people. He would seriously injure someone, with a blank look on his

> face - he was not angry at them, nor did he feel guilty that he had

> hurt anyone. It was as though he didn't even know that he had hurt

> someone. Soon his church teachers were calling me to ask for advice,

> and I didn't know what to tell them. He stayed in his church

> classes maybe two or three minutes before he was off - racing through

> the halls, around and around and around. The energy was endless. He

> stripped his clothes off in public. He shouted out inappropriate

> things at inappropriate times. For example, when the bishop came to

> talk to the children's group about baptism, the bishop asked, " Why is

> it important for us to be baptized? " yelled out at the top

> of his lungs " PEANUT BUTTER AND JELLY! "

>

> Sound bothered him tremendously. The organ, the piano,

> congregational singing, or even being in a large crowd of children

> would have him on the floor writhing with his hands over his ears.

> When he would sing along to the songs, he didn't sing the appropriate

> words. He was obsessed with potty words. So while all the other

> children were sweetly singing " I am a child of God " , he was singing

> (to the same tune) " pee, pee, pee, poop, poop, poop " .

>

> Many people just thought that he was AD/HD and we should just put him

> on Ritalin. But there were things that just didn't fit with this

> diagnosis. One was the silly grin he got on his face whenever he did

> one of these " behaviors " . I have other children, and I know how they

> look when they are caught doing something wrong: guilty, indignant,

> smug... but not blank eyes and an insane grin...

>

> People visiting our home was a nightmare. I would spend the entire

> time holding my son in his bedroom so that others in the family could

> enjoy the social experience. As soon as my son noticed someone at

> the door, he would race screeching around the room, so loudly that it

> was impossible to carry on a conversation with the guest. Then began

> the random hitting and pushing of guests or siblings until I carried

> him kicking from the room. The strangest thing about these incidents

> was that when I separated him, he would begin to cry that he wanted

> to play with the friends that were there, he didn't want to miss the

> time with them. He wanted to interact, but didn't know how. When he

> wanted to play a game with someone, he would " ask " by knocking their

> game board over and then smiling insanely at them. And he never

> understood why they got angry at him for that. He would cry and cry

> and cry. This summer his uncles built some incredible sand castles

> at the lake: they were built like the Pueblo Indians' adobe homes.

> thought they looked so cool and fun! He wanted to build

> with them too - so he stomped on their castles and grinned at them.

> He didn't understand why he was carried off to Time-Out. (By this

> time he was almost six years old and should have been old enough to

> understand.)

>

> Interactions with this child were so hard that one set of his

> grandparents no longer allowed him in their home. The other set of

> grandparents had spanked him at church without our permission.

>

> was rigid and inflexible. He could not handle change. One

> day he had to be carried home from church two hours early because his

> class was asked to sit in a different row than usual.

>

> I had to distract him when I heard the trash truck coming down the

> street. One week he had watched the garbage men load our trash into

> the truck and it had led to over an hour of kicking and screaming,

> " That was OUR trash. BRING IT BAAAAAAACK! "

>

> He did not let us touch or hold him. We are a family that carries

> our babies in slings and extended-breastfeeds and gives infant

> massages, and since his vaccine reaction he would not snuggle or

> allow us to hug or touch him.

>

> One particular incident in his violent behavior occurred right before

> we started using the ALA. His baby brother was playing in the dirt

> at the base of a tree. went over to the toddler, grabbed

> the back of his head, and banged his forehead three times into the

> tree trunk. When I grabbed and turned him to face me, he

> had that insane grin on his face, and I could tell that nothing I was

> saying, ( " NOOO! We don't do that!! That hurts!!!! Do you see him

> crying?) was registering in his brain. I learned to cope by always

> keeping away from other children - his own siblings and any

> neighborhood or other friends that might come to our home to play.

> Keeping away from other children was a full-time job -

> remember, he WANTED to play with him, he had a genuine need to

> interact, but he didn't know how to do so appropriately.

>

> This summer I was introduced to ALA by a friend who is using it with

> her autistic daughter. She showed me Dr. Amy's article on " Autism, a

> unique kind of mercury poisoning " . The article clicked. Saying that

> my son had Asperger's Syndrome fit like nothing else ever had. I

> felt like the ALA was safe, and like I could handle dosage

> adjustments on my own. There would be no need to hunt and search for

> a supportive doctor. I decided to give it six weeks and see if it

> would make a difference. This is how we did it: 1/4 mg per pound of

> body weight (this meant opening the capsule and dividing it into

> fourths, since he was 50 lbs and the capsule was 50 mg) mixed with a

> spoonful of applesauce, every three hours around the clock for three

> days, then off for four days.

>

> During the second week two things occurred that were testimony to me

> that the ALA was working. The first situation was when the baby

> brother took away a train that was playing with. I lunged

> to protect the baby, knowing that was going to clobber him.

> Instead I heard saying, " Oh, so you want to play with the

> train too? Here, let me show you how to do it... " He lined the

> train up on the bed and got another train for himself (allowing the

> baby to have the train he had originally had) and the two of them

> made their trains choo-choo along the bed's edge. I watched the

> scene with a quiet sense of awe: I had never seen play WITH

> another child before. I had seen him playing ALONGSIDE other

> children, but never before had I seen him able to empathize with

> another child's needs, and then line himself up to interact with that

> other child's play.

>

> During that same week another incident occurred. My husband was away

> for the evening, and I carried out our normal bedtime routine of

> having the children gather to read from the scriptures and have a

> famiy prayer. After the prayer, I remained kneeling on the floor in

> the quiet, just regrouping for a moment after a busy day. The

> children were going off to their bedrooms and the living room was

> quiet for a minute. Suddenly I was aware that someone was still

> behind me. I was wrapped in an embrace from behind, someone who

> clung to me so sweetly for a moment, and then kissed me. I turned

> around expecting to see any of my five children except the one that I

> did see - it was . It took me a moment to recover - I think

> I actually froze for a minute because suddenly I realized that he was

> standing in a strange position. His head was down and he had his

> finger on his forehead. I thought for a minute, and suddenly I

> understood! I exclaimed, " You want ME to kiss YOU? " He nodded

> shyly. I asked, " Right here, on your forehead where your finger

> is? " He nodded again shyly and I kissed him softly on his forehead.

> Then without a word, he trotted happily off to bed. He had not let

> me hug or kiss him for four and a half long years, and now he was

> asking me for affection.

>

> We have done a total of eight cycles of ALA. At one point we noticed

> that he was better behaved during the " ON " than the " OFF " so we

> started doing six days on, eight days off, which meant less adjusting

> for him from on to off. This worked well for him. During his

> seventh cycle, he became very agressive, and so we halved his dose so

> that he was now getting 1/8 mg per lb of his weight, and his behavior

> calmed again. It is obvious that stuff is being cleaned out of his

> brain because with every cycle, he experiences new growth.

>

> Let me tell you the differences we have seen after only eight cycles.

>

> His new teacher at church just said to me, " I don't know what all the

> warnings about were before I took this class. He is easy. "

>

> The woman that works in the presidency of the children's church

> organization called me this week. She said, " I can't believe the

> change in your son. When I first started working with him (a year

> and a half ago), the goal was to keep his clothes on him. Now he

> sits with his arms folded and listens and half the Sundays when I go

> home, I have to ask myself whether he was at church or not. He is so

> reverent that you could miss him if you aren't looking for him. "

>

> My parents (the grandparents who didn't allow him in their home) let

> us stay at their house for two days over Christmas because my brother

> was getting married closeby. Afterwards my mother said, " We can't

> believe how well did! What a change that was from this

> summer. " There had not been a single incident while we were in their

> home. (They had seen him in August, right before we started the

> ALA. This was the family reunion where he destroyed the sand castles

> and knocked over the game.)

>

> The other grandparents (who live just five minutes away) pulled my

> husband aside privately to tell him that they didn't know what we

> were doing for , but it was really working.

>

> My son's particular genuis/obsession is in the area of " how things

> work " , from electronics to the human body to appliances. As a

> special treat, we have allowed him to have an electric train in his

> bedroom. He and his brother have built a double decker winding track

> that has to be propped on blocks as it winds its way around their

> bedroom and through the tunnels they have built from Legos, etc. At

> my other son's birthday party, one of the guests went into the boys'

> bedroom and destroyed the track. He threw the trains around the room

> and bent and broke the track pieces. When we discovered it,

> was understandably distraught. He had his hands over his ears like

> he does when he is about to lose it, and I thought to myself, " This

> is it. I am going to be holding this child in this bedroom for the

> remainder of the party. I am going to miss seeing my other son blow

> out his birthday candles... " I said to , " What did was

> very wrong. He should not have done that to your train. Poppa knows

> how to fix your train, but right now he is doing the games for

> 's party. He can't fix it right now, but he can fix it after

> the party. " Imagine my jaw dropping as my son wiped his eyes and ran

> to join the line of children who were playing the next game.

>

> At Christmastime, my husband and I left the children with their

> grandma while we went to an office party. She took the children to a

> fast food restaurant and then to a church Christmas party. At the

> party, there was a buffet dinner, and suddenly was on the

> floor crying. Grandma asked him what was wrong, and he said, " The

> line is too long. All the food will be gone before I get there. "

> (Being able to vocalize what is wrong is a new skill for him. Before

> the ALA he just screamed like an animal in distress when you asked

> him what was wrong. We would just end up having to load him in the

> car and take him home because he was so out of control.) Grandma

> took him in the hall and said, " You already ate at the fast food

> place, and there is a lot of food in there. There will still be food

> when we get up to the serving tables. " He still looked sad, and

> Grandma said, " I can take you home if you would like me to. What do

> you want to do? " said, " I think I just need to decide to go

> in there and have a good time. " And he dried his tears and trotted

> off and there was not another problem that evening.

>

> We are not done with ALA. There are still symptoms of mercury

> toxicity, but in just four months we have gone from almost unbearable

> and intolerable to very workable. I am willing to have anyone

> contact me who wants more information or details.

>

> Deborah Warner

> ville, FL

>

>

>

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Deborah,

Thanks sooo much for sharing about your wonderful success! You hold up

hope for all of us!:)

God Bless,

Chris

On Thu, 04 Jan 2001 14:17:17 -0000 bdwarner@... writes:

> I feel the need to report at this time my son's progress using ALA.

>

> Some background: received his MMR vaccine at around 18

> months of age. Five days later he was screaming uncontrollably and

> had the classic measles rash all over his body. He was refusing to

> move his arms, hands, neck or legs. He would not reach for his

> sippy

> cup when I held it out to him. If I put it to his lips he would

> suck

> like crazy - he was thirsty, but it hurt him so badly to move that

> he

> would not reach out for his cup. I contacted his pediatrician and

> the office nurse immediately tried to blow the situation off " This

> has nothing to do with his vaccination... " I took him to the local

> health department because I wanted to pick up the papers that say

> " call your doctor if... " because I knew that he was experiencing

> five

> of the eight things that I had been warned to watch for and I was

> hoping that having some offical " proof " might help me advocate for

> my

> son at the pediatrician's office.

>

> I walked into the health department with my son wearing only a

> diaper

> as it was warm outside. This meant that the rash on his body was

> fully exposed. As I stepped up to the counter, a nurse behind the

> counter looked over and suddenly yelled, " Oh my God, that child is

> having a reaction to his MMR vaccine! "

>

> With this nurse's validation in hand, I went searching for a new

> pediatrician. The new pediatrician educated me on the dangers of

> ever having my son receive this vaccination again, but also warned

> me

> that our state would force him to receive it before admission to

> school at age five. She said that his reaction was not considered

> " serious enough " to warrant an exemption. Although she disagreed

> with the state's standards, she warned me to expect a fight when I

> enrolled him in school. Luckily, I had already begun homeschooling

> my older children, so this was a battle we never had to fight.

>

> After he recovered from the obvious part of the vaccine reaction,

> life went on, but something was wrong with my son that I couldn't

> quite put my finger on. He was extremely bright, with a gigantic

> vocabulary. At age three he told his friend that Barney was

> fiction,

> and when the friend's mother said, " Wow! I don't think my

> three-year-

> old even knows the word fiction " , said to the mother,

> " Fiction means pretend " .

>

> We began to have serious troubles with his reactions to other

> people. He would seriously injure someone, with a blank look on his

>

> face - he was not angry at them, nor did he feel guilty that he had

> hurt anyone. It was as though he didn't even know that he had hurt

> someone. Soon his church teachers were calling me to ask for

> advice,

> and I didn't know what to tell them. He stayed in his church

> classes maybe two or three minutes before he was off - racing

> through

> the halls, around and around and around. The energy was endless.

> He

> stripped his clothes off in public. He shouted out inappropriate

> things at inappropriate times. For example, when the bishop came to

>

> talk to the children's group about baptism, the bishop asked, " Why

> is

> it important for us to be baptized? " yelled out at the top

>

> of his lungs " PEANUT BUTTER AND JELLY! "

>

> Sound bothered him tremendously. The organ, the piano,

> congregational singing, or even being in a large crowd of children

> would have him on the floor writhing with his hands over his ears.

> When he would sing along to the songs, he didn't sing the

> appropriate

> words. He was obsessed with potty words. So while all the other

> children were sweetly singing " I am a child of God " , he was singing

> (to the same tune) " pee, pee, pee, poop, poop, poop " .

>

> Many people just thought that he was AD/HD and we should just put

> him

> on Ritalin. But there were things that just didn't fit with this

> diagnosis. One was the silly grin he got on his face whenever he

> did

> one of these " behaviors " . I have other children, and I know how

> they

> look when they are caught doing something wrong: guilty, indignant,

>

> smug... but not blank eyes and an insane grin...

>

> People visiting our home was a nightmare. I would spend the entire

> time holding my son in his bedroom so that others in the family

> could

> enjoy the social experience. As soon as my son noticed someone at

> the door, he would race screeching around the room, so loudly that

> it

> was impossible to carry on a conversation with the guest. Then

> began

> the random hitting and pushing of guests or siblings until I carried

>

> him kicking from the room. The strangest thing about these

> incidents

> was that when I separated him, he would begin to cry that he wanted

> to play with the friends that were there, he didn't want to miss the

>

> time with them. He wanted to interact, but didn't know how. When

> he

> wanted to play a game with someone, he would " ask " by knocking their

>

> game board over and then smiling insanely at them. And he never

> understood why they got angry at him for that. He would cry and cry

>

> and cry. This summer his uncles built some incredible sand castles

> at the lake: they were built like the Pueblo Indians' adobe homes.

> thought they looked so cool and fun! He wanted to build

> with them too - so he stomped on their castles and grinned at them.

>

> He didn't understand why he was carried off to Time-Out. (By this

> time he was almost six years old and should have been old enough to

> understand.)

>

> Interactions with this child were so hard that one set of his

> grandparents no longer allowed him in their home. The other set of

> grandparents had spanked him at church without our permission.

>

> was rigid and inflexible. He could not handle change. One

>

> day he had to be carried home from church two hours early because

> his

> class was asked to sit in a different row than usual.

>

> I had to distract him when I heard the trash truck coming down the

> street. One week he had watched the garbage men load our trash into

>

> the truck and it had led to over an hour of kicking and screaming,

> " That was OUR trash. BRING IT BAAAAAAACK! "

>

> He did not let us touch or hold him. We are a family that carries

> our babies in slings and extended-breastfeeds and gives infant

> massages, and since his vaccine reaction he would not snuggle or

> allow us to hug or touch him.

>

> One particular incident in his violent behavior occurred right

> before

> we started using the ALA. His baby brother was playing in the dirt

> at the base of a tree. went over to the toddler, grabbed

> the back of his head, and banged his forehead three times into the

> tree trunk. When I grabbed and turned him to face me, he

> had that insane grin on his face, and I could tell that nothing I

> was

> saying, ( " NOOO! We don't do that!! That hurts!!!! Do you see him

> crying?) was registering in his brain. I learned to cope by always

> keeping away from other children - his own siblings and any

>

> neighborhood or other friends that might come to our home to play.

> Keeping away from other children was a full-time job -

> remember, he WANTED to play with him, he had a genuine need to

> interact, but he didn't know how to do so appropriately.

>

> This summer I was introduced to ALA by a friend who is using it with

>

> her autistic daughter. She showed me Dr. Amy's article on " Autism,

> a

> unique kind of mercury poisoning " . The article clicked. Saying

> that

> my son had Asperger's Syndrome fit like nothing else ever had. I

> felt like the ALA was safe, and like I could handle dosage

> adjustments on my own. There would be no need to hunt and search

> for

> a supportive doctor. I decided to give it six weeks and see if it

> would make a difference. This is how we did it: 1/4 mg per pound of

>

> body weight (this meant opening the capsule and dividing it into

> fourths, since he was 50 lbs and the capsule was 50 mg) mixed with a

>

> spoonful of applesauce, every three hours around the clock for three

>

> days, then off for four days.

>

> During the second week two things occurred that were testimony to me

>

> that the ALA was working. The first situation was when the baby

> brother took away a train that was playing with. I lunged

> to protect the baby, knowing that was going to clobber him.

>

> Instead I heard saying, " Oh, so you want to play with the

> train too? Here, let me show you how to do it... " He lined the

> train up on the bed and got another train for himself (allowing the

> baby to have the train he had originally had) and the two of them

> made their trains choo-choo along the bed's edge. I watched the

> scene with a quiet sense of awe: I had never seen play WITH

>

> another child before. I had seen him playing ALONGSIDE other

> children, but never before had I seen him able to empathize with

> another child's needs, and then line himself up to interact with

> that

> other child's play.

>

> During that same week another incident occurred. My husband was

> away

> for the evening, and I carried out our normal bedtime routine of

> having the children gather to read from the scriptures and have a

> famiy prayer. After the prayer, I remained kneeling on the floor in

>

> the quiet, just regrouping for a moment after a busy day. The

> children were going off to their bedrooms and the living room was

> quiet for a minute. Suddenly I was aware that someone was still

> behind me. I was wrapped in an embrace from behind, someone who

> clung to me so sweetly for a moment, and then kissed me. I turned

> around expecting to see any of my five children except the one that

> I

> did see - it was . It took me a moment to recover - I think

>

> I actually froze for a minute because suddenly I realized that he

> was

> standing in a strange position. His head was down and he had his

> finger on his forehead. I thought for a minute, and suddenly I

> understood! I exclaimed, " You want ME to kiss YOU? " He nodded

> shyly. I asked, " Right here, on your forehead where your finger

> is? " He nodded again shyly and I kissed him softly on his forehead.

>

> Then without a word, he trotted happily off to bed. He had not let

> me hug or kiss him for four and a half long years, and now he was

> asking me for affection.

>

> We have done a total of eight cycles of ALA. At one point we

> noticed

> that he was better behaved during the " ON " than the " OFF " so we

> started doing six days on, eight days off, which meant less

> adjusting

> for him from on to off. This worked well for him. During his

> seventh cycle, he became very agressive, and so we halved his dose

> so

> that he was now getting 1/8 mg per lb of his weight, and his

> behavior

> calmed again. It is obvious that stuff is being cleaned out of his

> brain because with every cycle, he experiences new growth.

>

> Let me tell you the differences we have seen after only eight

> cycles.

>

> His new teacher at church just said to me, " I don't know what all

> the

> warnings about were before I took this class. He is easy. "

>

> The woman that works in the presidency of the children's church

> organization called me this week. She said, " I can't believe the

> change in your son. When I first started working with him (a year

> and a half ago), the goal was to keep his clothes on him. Now he

> sits with his arms folded and listens and half the Sundays when I go

>

> home, I have to ask myself whether he was at church or not. He is

> so

> reverent that you could miss him if you aren't looking for him. "

>

> My parents (the grandparents who didn't allow him in their home) let

>

> us stay at their house for two days over Christmas because my

> brother

> was getting married closeby. Afterwards my mother said, " We can't

> believe how well did! What a change that was from this

> summer. " There had not been a single incident while we were in

> their

> home. (They had seen him in August, right before we started the

> ALA. This was the family reunion where he destroyed the sand

> castles

> and knocked over the game.)

>

> The other grandparents (who live just five minutes away) pulled my

> husband aside privately to tell him that they didn't know what we

> were doing for , but it was really working.

>

> My son's particular genuis/obsession is in the area of " how things

> work " , from electronics to the human body to appliances. As a

> special treat, we have allowed him to have an electric train in his

> bedroom. He and his brother have built a double decker winding

> track

> that has to be propped on blocks as it winds its way around their

> bedroom and through the tunnels they have built from Legos, etc. At

>

> my other son's birthday party, one of the guests went into the boys'

>

> bedroom and destroyed the track. He threw the trains around the

> room

> and bent and broke the track pieces. When we discovered it,

>

> was understandably distraught. He had his hands over his ears like

> he does when he is about to lose it, and I thought to myself, " This

> is it. I am going to be holding this child in this bedroom for the

> remainder of the party. I am going to miss seeing my other son blow

>

> out his birthday candles... " I said to , " What did

> was

> very wrong. He should not have done that to your train. Poppa

> knows

> how to fix your train, but right now he is doing the games for

> 's party. He can't fix it right now, but he can fix it after

> the party. " Imagine my jaw dropping as my son wiped his eyes and

> ran

> to join the line of children who were playing the next game.

>

> At Christmastime, my husband and I left the children with their

> grandma while we went to an office party. She took the children to

> a

> fast food restaurant and then to a church Christmas party. At the

> party, there was a buffet dinner, and suddenly was on the

> floor crying. Grandma asked him what was wrong, and he said, " The

> line is too long. All the food will be gone before I get there. "

> (Being able to vocalize what is wrong is a new skill for him.

> Before

> the ALA he just screamed like an animal in distress when you asked

> him what was wrong. We would just end up having to load him in the

> car and take him home because he was so out of control.) Grandma

> took him in the hall and said, " You already ate at the fast food

> place, and there is a lot of food in there. There will still be

> food

> when we get up to the serving tables. " He still looked sad, and

> Grandma said, " I can take you home if you would like me to. What do

>

> you want to do? " said, " I think I just need to decide to

> go

> in there and have a good time. " And he dried his tears and trotted

> off and there was not another problem that evening.

>

> We are not done with ALA. There are still symptoms of mercury

> toxicity, but in just four months we have gone from almost

> unbearable

> and intolerable to very workable. I am willing to have anyone

> contact me who wants more information or details.

>

> Deborah Warner

> ville, FL

>

>

>

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Thanks so much for sharing your stories. I too am doing it all alone. We are just finished with our second round of DMSA (low dose - 1/2 mg/lb.) We saw no negatives and lots of minor positives. He's definately requesting more without any prompting; even more interactive; ... he even told the dog to "sit" and "speak" for a treat (and the dog did it for him...good doggie!) They are minor...but all good and giving me hope. We plan to increase the dose to 1 mg/lb on this next round. I too will not add ALA for awhile since his copper was off the charts.

I would like to ask the list a few things. My 8 yo son also has problems. We got his hair analysis back and he too was borderline high in Aluminum, Antimony, Arsenic, Cadmium, Lead and Tin and very high in copper, although not as high as his brother's levels of these things. He is Calcium deficient, and also very low in 3 other essentials. Borderline lows abound.(about 4 things were within ref range.) I recently pulled him from public school to home-school due to their inability to use positive reinforcement. The situation went from mild to severe in the space of two weeks...my son said "crap" in the lunch room and the duty aid took away yet another recess...so he threatened to kill the little girl that told on him and now he has a police record! Just a month before...he had 75 mcgs of mercury put in him through ear drops (stupid me). Anyway. The psychological eval (indepe!

ndent doctor...not the school's) said that he is high-average intelligence...borderline gifted...but tested with many signs of Central Auditory Processing Disorder and an attentional pattern similar to ADHD. He recommends further testing and a private school placement...or continue with home-schooling.

So...does this all sound like metal toxicity to you? I think so...but with all the reading I've done...EVERYTHING sounds like it to me!!!!! So I thought I would throw it past all of you! He also has a grip problem and I see him wringing his hands and wrists after very, very little writing. My autistic son has the worst grip and has been asking therapists to massage his hands too! (His handwriting is the worst it's ever been). Within the past 6 months the 8 YO has literally stopped eating all PROTEIN foods (Which sounds strange...but is so related...and so much like his autistic brother).

I have an 18 year old who hasn't sent me his hair sample yet...but he's even worse-he can't even make simple life decisions or manage to get out of bed some days! And my 9yo daughter is having EXTREME difficulties with math and reading...to the point where she told me "the dumbest kid in class does math faster than me"...(and I don't think she's too far off on her self-estimate.)

My own tinnitus and headaches and neck stiffness and muscle and joint aches and pains have got progressively worse during the last year...I'm exhausted when I wake up after 6-8 hours of sleep!!!! My husband has been having to do the every 4 hours with our autistic son at night! Is there a way of convincing my doctor/insurance company that we all are toxic and need help fast!!!!!????? I don't think I can take much more of this alone. I figure there must be some kind of ongoing exposure I am unaware of or my own symptoms wouldn't be getting worse...am I thinking correctly?

Sorry for the length of this...but the psychologist appointment just did me in today!

Any hope for this hurting family?

Thanks a Bunch for being a sounding board!

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This is such a great story. My son's behavior was not as extreme as

yours but he was considered " developmentally delayed " in February, at

age 4. He was not fully potty trained (would regularly pee in his

pants and not even seem to notice), I had trouble keeping clothes on

him, and he hated for me to even touch his hair. He was noise

sensitive, avoided all moving or riding toys and would not join in

groups of children. All of these problems have resolved. He has

developed a sense of what other kids think of him, and he has a

few " buddies " at school. The only difference I still see is a mild

language delay--he has trouble with word retreival, and his language

doesn't really " flow " , but he can answer questions, which he couldn't

do in February.

He was GFCF for a while, but isn't now, and I've seen no regression.

The only testing we have had is a hair test, which showed high

cadmium, arsenic, antimony, and borderline high lead. I have used

ALA alone, Captomer (DMSA) alone, and Captomer+ALA. I've also

periodically given him melatonin, SAMe, Reduced L-glutathione and

have pretty regularly used Brainchild Nutritionals supplements

(Spectrum I).

From my daughter's hair test we found that she had high copper,

which explained her extreme anxiety and frequent classroom outbursts.

(She has no delays or other autistic symptoms except hand flapping)

She also had high cadmium. She has been taking Spectrum I and a lot

of other supplements, including zinc and molybednum. She is doing

extremely well and her teachers this year report no outbursts. She

has done a few rounds of chelation, mostly with Captomer only since

she has high copper, but I hope to do more with ALA soon.

We just had a wonderful Christmas, with both children very calm,

happy and well behaved, despite lots of excitement, lots of

chocolate, and a two-week period without the Spectrum I because of a

shipping delay. I consider myself very blessed.

It's great to hear from someone else who is doing this without a

doctor's involvement (I have a chiropractor, but she doesn't know

about the Captomer and ALA.) For a long time, I was reluctant to

post about my kids here because people gave me a hard time for doing

chelation on my own. I think the tide is turning and people are

starting to see that chelation is in fact very safe, much safer, in

fact than many of the harmful drugs (like Ritalin) that are being

given to huge numbers of kids.

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When instinct and reading convinced me I had mercury poisoning I tried to

convince a mainstream doctor (covered by insurance) and took in copies of the

articles I had from medical journals etc. He discounted the possibility and

ordered a battery of tests including AIDS test, EEG, and a bunch of lab work,

etc. (which I refused) and began debating with himself which symptom he should

address first in order to make the most money. He had no plan to treat the

suspected cause or even to try to test for it.

I ended up going to a chiropractor/nutritionist and asked if he had any test

which could confirm or deny mercury poisoning. He did bioenergetic testing

which confirmed. Turns out he had had his own mercury out and had gone to a

training by Hal Huggins.

I ended up having to pay all of mine out of pocket so good luck on getting

insurance coverage. Others have had luck for coverage for heavy metals

poisoning just by avoiding mentioning the mercury. The exhaustion sounds like

mine and definitely falls under the mercury poisoning symptoms.

Good luck and keep us posted.

--------------------------------------------------------------

I would like to ask the list a few things. My 8 yo son also has problems. We

got his hair analysis back and he too was borderline high in Aluminum,

Antimony, Arsenic, Cadmium, Lead and Tin and very high in copper, although not

as high as his brother's levels of these things. He is Calcium deficient, and

also very low in 3 other essentials. Borderline lows abound.(about 4 things

were within ref range.) I recently pulled him from public school to

home-school due to their inability to use positive reinforcement. The

situation went from mild to severe in the space of two weeks...my son said

" crap " in the lunch room and the duty aid took away yet another recess...so he

threatened to kill the little girl that told on him and now he has a police

record! Just a month before...he had 75 mcgs of mercury put in him through ear

drops (stupid me). Anyway. The psychological eval (independent doctor...not

the school's) said that he is high-average

intelligence...borderline gifted...but tested with many signs of Central

Auditory Processing Disorder and an attentional pattern similar to ADHD. He

recommends further testing and a private school placement...or continue with

home-schooling.

So...does this all sound like metal toxicity to you? I think so...but with all

the reading I've done...EVERYTHING sounds like it to me!!!!! So I thought I

would throw it past all of you! He also has a grip problem and I see him

wringing his hands and wrists after very, very little writing. My autistic son

has the worst grip and has been asking therapists to massage his hands too!

....he can't even make simple life decisions or manage to get out of bed some

days! ... neck stiffness and muscle and joint aches and pains have got

progressively worse during the last year...I'm exhausted when I wake up after

6-8 hours of sleep!!!! Is there a way of convincing my doctor/insurance

company that we all are toxic and need help fast!!!!!????? I don't think I can

take much more of this alone. I figure there must be some kind of ongoing

exposure I am unaware of or my own symptoms wouldn't be getting worse...am I

thinking correctly? Sorry for the length of this...but the psychologist

appointment just did me in today!

Any hope for this hurting family?

Thanks a Bunch for being a sounding board!

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My son is now six years old.

I have never tried GFCF although I am highly supportive of other people trying it and have seen the dramatic results it had for my friend's daughter who is autistic. The main reason that I didn't try it is that I have another daughter with a different chronic illness who needs to be on a different diet (Weston A. Price) and I just didn't feel like I could run two special diets in the house at once.

ALA is the only thing that we have changed.

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I'm sorry, I forgot to answer one of the questions asked of me:

No, we did not do mercury testing. My feeling is that mercury can be hard to find since it hides in the tissues, and thus testing for it may not be accurate. I am also a strong advocate of " we don't have to hurt our children in order to get them well " so I avoid testing that would cause pain to the child. ( I know that some mercury testing uses baby hair and so there is no pain to the child in that, my concern would be with blood testing, etc.) I also felt like the ALA was safe to try, and that if I had results, then I would know that mercury was indeed the problem. I decided to give it a six week trial period, but like I said, by the second week, I KNEW.

I also forgot to make it clear in my original post the feeling that came over me as I saw my son improve. It was as though someone had given me back the child that had been born to me, the baby and toddler that I had loved and bonded to. Of course after his problems started my love for him did not diminish, but the snuggly loving fun happy child was gone and replaced by a frustrated and almost " not there " child. When he asked me to kiss him, it was as though God had put his hand on my child and brought him back to me. He was able to interact with me again! He could respond on an emotional level. He is now " present " in areas where he has been " gone " for the last four and a half years.

There is much talk in the autistic community about accepting our children, and this is very appropriate. However, my son was very unhappy with the blocks in his brain that caused him to misunderstand the world around him. He wanted to interact with other children and instead experienced rejection. He wanted emotional closeness but couldn't tolerate it. My efforts to help were not to " change " him, but to restore to him what he had been born with and what had been taken away through injury to his brain and neurological systems.

Deborah

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Deborah, That is such a touching way to describe your son's illness. I am

very happy for you that he is doing well.

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