Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Well then, my mother's generation should be flooded with autistic kids. Those moms who are now in their mid-sixties and seventies were drinking while pregnant -- some of them smoking a pack a day as well -- or so they brag. My MIL was just telling me this at dinner last night. I told her that is the generation that probably started the toxicity in people (their kids). I mean, really, didn't they start adding all of the chemicals to cigarettes in the 60's? Drinking while pregnant risks autism in babies Here we go again. Vaccine alibi research. sigh -Lenny Drinking while pregnant risks autism in babies -Kate Templeton, Health Editor The Sunday Times, UK http://tinyurl. com/25fheq Women who drink alcohol during pregnancy may be putting their babies at risk of developing autism, according to new research. The consultant psychiatrist who alerted the medical profession to the finding that drinking while pregnant can give babies a condition called foetal alcohol syndrome (FAS) has now found that the consumption of alcohol by expecting mothers can also cause autism. The research is the first to suggest that autism may be triggered by the child's mother drinking alcohol during pregnancy. The findings will heighten concern about the increase in alcohol consumption among women of childbearing age. More than half of all mothers drink alcohol while pregnant, according to the Department of Health. This week the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence will issue a new warning about the dangers. A recent survey showed 8% of women aged 18 to 24 had consumed at least 35 units of alcohol, the equivalent of about 15 glasses of wine, during the previous week. Binge drinking among young women has resulted in the number of alcohol-related deaths in women aged 35 to 54 doubling between 1991 and 2005. Earlier this year, the British Medical Association warned that the increase in alcohol consumption by young women will be reflected in a rise in drinking during pregnancy and, subsequently, will put more babies at risk of being damaged by alcohol while in the womb. Raja Mukherjee, consultant psychiatrist at Surrey Borders Partnership NHS trust, has spent the past 18 months examining children who have been damaged by their mother's drinking during pregnancy and found that a high proportion of them have autism. The research has been presented at scientific meetings. Mukherjee, who has presented his findings to medical colleagues, declined to discuss them in detail before their publication in a medical journal but said: "Genetic conditions are by far the most common cause of autism but that is not to say that other things cannot cause it, and prenatal alcohol appears, possibly, to be [a cause]. "Unlike genetic conditions, this is 100% preventable. " Mukherjee has previously warned against any drinking during pregnancy and believes that even low levels of alcohol may endanger babies. Drinking during pregnancy can cause foetal alcohol spectrum disorder, the umbrella term for a range of disorders — from minor anomalies such as low birth weight to severe FAS, the symptoms of which include mental retardation and facial abnormalities such as a short nose. The number of cases of FAS in Britain has increased in recent years. So far the government and medical bodies have given out conflicting messages about how much alcohol it is safe to drink during pregnancy. Cases rising One per cent of British children suffer from autism, according to the Office for National Statistics. Some academics argue that the percentage of children suffering from the disorder is increasing but others say that numbers are up because of better diagnosis. Although the cause of autism is unknown, many doctors believe some people have a genetic predisposition towards it. Dr Wakefield linked autism to the vaccine for measles, mumps and rubella, but the research was discredited. It led to a fall in immunisation. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Yup - I didn't drink a drop while pregnant with Mia - accidentally had a scotch and soda with , before I knew I was pregnant, and tortured myself over it for months. Give me a break. I agree FAS is a terrible thing - and I'm not making light of it. How long before the NYT has the study on their front page as " NEWS! " Tick tick tick. Happy Easter, friends. KIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 This one really made me mad. My letter to the author of the article: "Wow.. what a horribly irresponsible piece of journalism. "Guess what everyone... drinking causes autism, and we have a study to prove it, but we are not going to tell you what is in the study, and no one can check our work but we want you to print it in the newspaper and tell everyone anyway. Trust us... we have presented it in "scientific meetings". Ms. Templeton, women have been drinking while pregnant for thousands of years. (tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands? When was fermentation discovered?) It seems reasonable to assume that if it caused something like autism, people would have discovered, labeled and described autism in the literature long before Kanner did it in the 1930's. When there is a published study for people to read for them selves and see if there is any merit to the theory, then write about it. But publishing the headline, "Drinking while pregnant risks autism in babies", when you have no data to actually back up the claim is just wrong." krstagliano wrote: Yup - I didn't drink a drop while pregnant with Mia - accidentally had a scotch and soda with , before I knew I was pregnant, and tortured myself over it for months. Give me a break. I agree FAS is a terrible thing - and I'm not making light of it. How long before the NYT has the study on their front page as "NEWS!" Tick tick tick. Happy Easter, friends. KIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Cigarette chemicals are used in growing tobacco, storing, and making the *Taste* and feel, preservation of the tobacco, for the cigar, cigarette, and snuff and chewing tobacco. Long time , many chemicals, unless you buy organically grown tobacco products, available today. ng Drinking while pregnant risks autism in babies Here we go again. Vaccine alibi research. sigh -LennyDrinking while pregnant risks autism in babies-Kate Templeton, Health Editor The Sunday Times, UKhttp://tinyurl. com/25fheqWomen who drink alcohol during pregnancy may be putting their babiesat risk of developing autism, according to new research. The consultant psychiatrist who alerted the medical profession to thefinding that drinking while pregnant can give babies a conditioncalled foetal alcohol syndrome (FAS) has now found that theconsumption of alcohol by expecting mothers can also cause autism. The research is the first to suggest that autism may be triggered bythe child's mother drinking alcohol during pregnancy. The findings will heighten concern about the increase in alcoholconsumption among women of childbearing age. More than half of all mothers drink alcohol while pregnant, accordingto the Department of Health. This week the National Institute forHealth and Clinical Excellence will issue a new warning about thedangers. A recent survey showed 8% of women aged 18 to 24 had consumed at least35 units of alcohol, the equivalent of about 15 glasses of wine,during the previous week. Binge drinking among young women hasresulted in the number of alcohol-related deaths in women aged 35 to54 doubling between 1991 and 2005. Earlier this year, the British Medical Association warned that theincrease in alcohol consumption by young women will be reflected in arise in drinking during pregnancy and, subsequently, will put morebabies at risk of being damaged by alcohol while in the womb. Raja Mukherjee, consultant psychiatrist at Surrey Borders PartnershipNHS trust, has spent the past 18 months examining children who havebeen damaged by their mother's drinking during pregnancy and foundthat a high proportion of them have autism. The research has beenpresented at scientific meetings. Mukherjee, who has presented his findings to medical colleagues,declined to discuss them in detail before their publication in amedical journal but said: "Genetic conditions are by far the mostcommon cause of autism but that is not to say that other things cannotcause it, and prenatal alcohol appears, possibly, to be [a cause]. "Unlike genetic conditions, this is 100% preventable. " Mukherjee has previously warned against any drinking during pregnancyand believes that even low levels of alcohol may endanger babies. Drinking during pregnancy can cause foetal alcohol spectrum disorder,the umbrella term for a range of disorders — from minor anomalies suchas low birth weight to severe FAS, the symptoms of which includemental retardation and facial abnormalities such as a short nose. The number of cases of FAS in Britain has increased in recent years.So far the government and medical bodies have given out conflictingmessages about how much alcohol it is safe to drink during pregnancy. Cases risingOne per cent of British children suffer from autism, according to theOffice for National Statistics. Some academics argue that thepercentage of children suffering from the disorder is increasing butothers say that numbers are up because of better diagnosis. Although the cause of autism is unknown, many doctors believe somepeople have a genetic predisposition towards it. Dr Wakefield linked autism to the vaccine for measles, mumpsand rubella, but the research was discredited. It led to a fall inimmunisation. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 ITA !! I'm an early 60s child. my Mom smoked, drinked (cocktail parties were all the rage) & most of moms did that. We should be flooded w/ autism, etc. But I knew no one w/ autism & my DD was born in 1982 & we lived in a major US SW city. I changed school every 3 yrs & knew maybe a few kids w/ genuine asthma. desiree > > Cigarette chemicals are used in growing tobacco, storing, and making the *Taste* and feel, preservation of the tobacco, for the cigar, cigarette, and snuff and chewing tobacco. > Long time , many chemicals, unless you buy organically grown tobacco products, available today. ng > Drinking while pregnant risks autism in babies > > > Here we go again. Vaccine alibi research. sigh -Lenny > > Drinking while pregnant risks autism in babies > -Kate Templeton, Health Editor > The Sunday Times, UK > > http://tinyurl. com/25fheq > > Women who drink alcohol during pregnancy may be putting their babies > at risk of developing autism, according to new research. > > The consultant psychiatrist who alerted the medical profession to the > finding that drinking while pregnant can give babies a condition > called foetal alcohol syndrome (FAS) has now found that the > consumption of alcohol by expecting mothers can also cause autism. > > The research is the first to suggest that autism may be triggered by > the child's mother drinking alcohol during pregnancy. > > The findings will heighten concern about the increase in alcohol > consumption among women of childbearing age. > > More than half of all mothers drink alcohol while pregnant, according > to the Department of Health. This week the National Institute for > Health and Clinical Excellence will issue a new warning about the > dangers. > > A recent survey showed 8% of women aged 18 to 24 had consumed at least > 35 units of alcohol, the equivalent of about 15 glasses of wine, > during the previous week. Binge drinking among young women has > resulted in the number of alcohol-related deaths in women aged 35 to > 54 doubling between 1991 and 2005. > > Earlier this year, the British Medical Association warned that the > increase in alcohol consumption by young women will be reflected in a > rise in drinking during pregnancy and, subsequently, will put more > babies at risk of being damaged by alcohol while in the womb. > > Raja Mukherjee, consultant psychiatrist at Surrey Borders Partnership > NHS trust, has spent the past 18 months examining children who have > been damaged by their mother's drinking during pregnancy and found > that a high proportion of them have autism. The research has been > presented at scientific meetings. > > Mukherjee, who has presented his findings to medical colleagues, > declined to discuss them in detail before their publication in a > medical journal but said: " Genetic conditions are by far the most > common cause of autism but that is not to say that other things cannot > cause it, and prenatal alcohol appears, possibly, to be [a cause]. > > " Unlike genetic conditions, this is 100% preventable. " > > Mukherjee has previously warned against any drinking during pregnancy > and believes that even low levels of alcohol may endanger babies. > > Drinking during pregnancy can cause foetal alcohol spectrum disorder, > the umbrella term for a range of disorders — from minor anomalies such > as low birth weight to severe FAS, the symptoms of which include > mental retardation and facial abnormalities such as a short nose. > > The number of cases of FAS in Britain has increased in recent years. > So far the government and medical bodies have given out conflicting > messages about how much alcohol it is safe to drink during pregnancy. > > Cases rising > > One per cent of British children suffer from autism, according to the > Office for National Statistics. Some academics argue that the > percentage of children suffering from the disorder is increasing but > others say that numbers are up because of better diagnosis. > > Although the cause of autism is unknown, many doctors believe some > people have a genetic predisposition towards it. > > Dr Wakefield linked autism to the vaccine for measles, mumps > and rubella, but the research was discredited. It led to a fall in > immunisation. > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Yes Kim, and masterbation causes blindness. God Help Us. > > Yup - I didn't drink a drop while pregnant with Mia - accidentally had > a scotch and soda with , before I knew I was pregnant, and > tortured myself over it for months. Give me a break. I agree FAS is a > terrible thing - and I'm not making light of it. > > How long before the NYT has the study on their front page as " NEWS! " > > Tick tick tick. > > Happy Easter, friends. > > KIM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 And c-sections. They forgot to mention the study which supposedly showed that the risk of autism rises for women who had c-sections. Since the mainstream resources absolutely refuse to study the effects of either birth drugs, chemicals in commercial (or even organic) cigarettes and alcohol on glutathione and methylation, etc., in pre or post-natally exposed infants and how this may " lower defenses " to the toxins in vaccines or environmental mercury/pollutants, these studies are pretty much useless. I think the whole point is to quarantine the problem only to effected families, put the blame on the victims in a sense. This is no more helpful than the coffee link research, the " trauma " link research (there was one study which " showed " a correlation between a stressful event in pregnancy and autism rates for offspring), etc.. Does coffee lower defenses to oxidative stress? Does trauma? Would this even matter if it weren't for massive doses of toxic chemicals, contaminants and live viruses in vaccines? It's incredibly stupid. Exactly like everyone else has said here, if smoking and drinking in pregnancy caused autism, every kid born in France post WWII to the seventies or every urban center in the world at that time would have been autistic. I didn't drink a drop in pregnancy. It will be tiresome to ward off more " helpful " remarks about fetal alcohol syndrome from armchair experts. > > Here we go again. Vaccine alibi research. sigh -Lenny > > > Drinking while pregnant risks autism in babies > -Kate Templeton, Health Editor > The Sunday Times, UK > > http://tinyurl.com/25fheq > > Women who drink alcohol during pregnancy may be putting their babies > at risk of developing autism, according to new research. > > The consultant psychiatrist who alerted the medical profession to the > finding that drinking while pregnant can give babies a condition > called foetal alcohol syndrome (FAS) has now found that the > consumption of alcohol by expecting mothers can also cause autism. > > The research is the first to suggest that autism may be triggered by > the child's mother drinking alcohol during pregnancy. > > The findings will heighten concern about the increase in alcohol > consumption among women of childbearing age. > > More than half of all mothers drink alcohol while pregnant, according > to the Department of Health. This week the National Institute for > Health and Clinical Excellence will issue a new warning about the > dangers. > > A recent survey showed 8% of women aged 18 to 24 had consumed at least > 35 units of alcohol, the equivalent of about 15 glasses of wine, > during the previous week. Binge drinking among young women has > resulted in the number of alcohol-related deaths in women aged 35 to > 54 doubling between 1991 and 2005. > > Earlier this year, the British Medical Association warned that the > increase in alcohol consumption by young women will be reflected in a > rise in drinking during pregnancy and, subsequently, will put more > babies at risk of being damaged by alcohol while in the womb. > > Raja Mukherjee, consultant psychiatrist at Surrey Borders Partnership > NHS trust, has spent the past 18 months examining children who have > been damaged by their mother's drinking during pregnancy and found > that a high proportion of them have autism. The research has been > presented at scientific meetings. > > Mukherjee, who has presented his findings to medical colleagues, > declined to discuss them in detail before their publication in a > medical journal but said: " Genetic conditions are by far the most > common cause of autism but that is not to say that other things cannot > cause it, and prenatal alcohol appears, possibly, to be [a cause]. > > " Unlike genetic conditions, this is 100% preventable. " > > Mukherjee has previously warned against any drinking during pregnancy > and believes that even low levels of alcohol may endanger babies. > > Drinking during pregnancy can cause foetal alcohol spectrum disorder, > the umbrella term for a range of disorders — from minor anomalies such > as low birth weight to severe FAS, the symptoms of which include > mental retardation and facial abnormalities such as a short nose. > > The number of cases of FAS in Britain has increased in recent years. > So far the government and medical bodies have given out conflicting > messages about how much alcohol it is safe to drink during pregnancy. > > Cases rising > > One per cent of British children suffer from autism, according to the > Office for National Statistics. Some academics argue that the > percentage of children suffering from the disorder is increasing but > others say that numbers are up because of better diagnosis. > > Although the cause of autism is unknown, many doctors believe some > people have a genetic predisposition towards it. > > Dr Wakefield linked autism to the vaccine for measles, mumps > and rubella, but the research was discredited. It led to a fall in > immunisation. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 C-section babies are known to not create the same good gut flora as naturally born babes. So there is probably some merit to that higher risk for autism. But I get your point, they are just skirting around the real issue. I had three c-sections, I have no doubt that the circumstances of c-births increases the vulnerability of the baby to vaccines and other insults. Becky Re: Drinking while pregnant risks autism in babies And c-sections. They forgot to mention the study which supposedly showed that the risk of autism rises for women who had c-sections. Since the mainstream resources absolutely refuse to study the effects of either birth drugs, chemicals in commercial (or even organic) cigarettes and alcohol on glutathione and methylation, etc., in pre or post-natally exposed infants and how this may " lower defenses " to the toxins in vaccines or environmental mercury/pollutants, these studies are pretty much useless. I think the whole point is to quarantine the problem only to effected families, put the blame on the victims in a sense. This is no more helpful than the coffee link research, the " trauma " link research (there was one study which " showed " a correlation between a stressful event in pregnancy and autism rates for offspring), etc.. Does coffee lower defenses to oxidative stress? Does trauma? Would this even matter if it weren't for massive doses of toxic chemicals, contaminants and live viruses in vaccines? It's incredibly stupid. Exactly like everyone else has said here, if smoking and drinking in pregnancy caused autism, every kid born in France post WWII to the seventies or every urban center in the world at that time would have been autistic. I didn't drink a drop in pregnancy. It will be tiresome to ward off more " helpful " remarks about fetal alcohol syndrome from armchair experts. > > Here we go again. Vaccine alibi research. sigh -Lenny > > > Drinking while pregnant risks autism in babies > -Kate Templeton, Health Editor > The Sunday Times, UK > > http://tinyurl.com/25fheq > > Women who drink alcohol during pregnancy may be putting their babies > at risk of developing autism, according to new research. > > The consultant psychiatrist who alerted the medical profession to the > finding that drinking while pregnant can give babies a condition > called foetal alcohol syndrome (FAS) has now found that the > consumption of alcohol by expecting mothers can also cause autism. > > The research is the first to suggest that autism may be triggered by > the child's mother drinking alcohol during pregnancy. > > The findings will heighten concern about the increase in alcohol > consumption among women of childbearing age. > > More than half of all mothers drink alcohol while pregnant, according > to the Department of Health. This week the National Institute for > Health and Clinical Excellence will issue a new warning about the > dangers. > > A recent survey showed 8% of women aged 18 to 24 had consumed at least > 35 units of alcohol, the equivalent of about 15 glasses of wine, > during the previous week. Binge drinking among young women has > resulted in the number of alcohol-related deaths in women aged 35 to > 54 doubling between 1991 and 2005. > > Earlier this year, the British Medical Association warned that the > increase in alcohol consumption by young women will be reflected in a > rise in drinking during pregnancy and, subsequently, will put more > babies at risk of being damaged by alcohol while in the womb. > > Raja Mukherjee, consultant psychiatrist at Surrey Borders Partnership > NHS trust, has spent the past 18 months examining children who have > been damaged by their mother's drinking during pregnancy and found > that a high proportion of them have autism. The research has been > presented at scientific meetings. > > Mukherjee, who has presented his findings to medical colleagues, > declined to discuss them in detail before their publication in a > medical journal but said: " Genetic conditions are by far the most > common cause of autism but that is not to say that other things cannot > cause it, and prenatal alcohol appears, possibly, to be [a cause]. > > " Unlike genetic conditions, this is 100% preventable. " > > Mukherjee has previously warned against any drinking during pregnancy > and believes that even low levels of alcohol may endanger babies. > > Drinking during pregnancy can cause foetal alcohol spectrum disorder, > the umbrella term for a range of disorders — from minor anomalies such > as low birth weight to severe FAS, the symptoms of which include > mental retardation and facial abnormalities such as a short nose. > > The number of cases of FAS in Britain has increased in recent years. > So far the government and medical bodies have given out conflicting > messages about how much alcohol it is safe to drink during pregnancy. > > Cases rising > > One per cent of British children suffer from autism, according to the > Office for National Statistics. Some academics argue that the > percentage of children suffering from the disorder is increasing but > others say that numbers are up because of better diagnosis. > > Although the cause of autism is unknown, many doctors believe some > people have a genetic predisposition towards it. > > Dr Wakefield linked autism to the vaccine for measles, mumps > and rubella, but the research was discredited. It led to a fall in > immunisation. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 I'm a 50's baby and everyone back then smoked non filter cigarettes, drank, houses full of lead paint. I personally never had an ear infection, I knew no one with asthma, of course we all had measles, mumps, whooping cough, chickenpox, you name it. No one I knew died, or had complicatiolns. They are jsut trying to find a way to blame the mothers, or the genes. If alcohol can cause autism, what the hell do they think mercury, and aluminum can do? > > > > Cigarette chemicals are used in growing tobacco, storing, and > making the *Taste* and feel, preservation of the tobacco, for the > cigar, cigarette, and snuff and chewing tobacco. > > Long time , many chemicals, unless you buy organically grown > tobacco products, available today. ng > > Drinking while pregnant risks autism in babies > > > > > > Here we go again. Vaccine alibi research. sigh -Lenny > > > > Drinking while pregnant risks autism in babies > > -Kate Templeton, Health Editor > > The Sunday Times, UK > > > > http://tinyurl. com/25fheq > > > > Women who drink alcohol during pregnancy may be putting their > babies > > at risk of developing autism, according to new research. > > > > The consultant psychiatrist who alerted the medical profession to > the > > finding that drinking while pregnant can give babies a condition > > called foetal alcohol syndrome (FAS) has now found that the > > consumption of alcohol by expecting mothers can also cause > autism. > > > > The research is the first to suggest that autism may be triggered > by > > the child's mother drinking alcohol during pregnancy. > > > > The findings will heighten concern about the increase in alcohol > > consumption among women of childbearing age. > > > > More than half of all mothers drink alcohol while pregnant, > according > > to the Department of Health. This week the National Institute for > > Health and Clinical Excellence will issue a new warning about the > > dangers. > > > > A recent survey showed 8% of women aged 18 to 24 had consumed at > least > > 35 units of alcohol, the equivalent of about 15 glasses of wine, > > during the previous week. Binge drinking among young women has > > resulted in the number of alcohol-related deaths in women aged 35 > to > > 54 doubling between 1991 and 2005. > > > > Earlier this year, the British Medical Association warned that the > > increase in alcohol consumption by young women will be reflected > in a > > rise in drinking during pregnancy and, subsequently, will put more > > babies at risk of being damaged by alcohol while in the womb. > > > > Raja Mukherjee, consultant psychiatrist at Surrey Borders > Partnership > > NHS trust, has spent the past 18 months examining children who > have > > been damaged by their mother's drinking during pregnancy and found > > that a high proportion of them have autism. The research has been > > presented at scientific meetings. > > > > Mukherjee, who has presented his findings to medical colleagues, > > declined to discuss them in detail before their publication in a > > medical journal but said: " Genetic conditions are by far the most > > common cause of autism but that is not to say that other things > cannot > > cause it, and prenatal alcohol appears, possibly, to be [a > cause]. > > > > " Unlike genetic conditions, this is 100% preventable. " > > > > Mukherjee has previously warned against any drinking during > pregnancy > > and believes that even low levels of alcohol may endanger babies. > > > > Drinking during pregnancy can cause foetal alcohol spectrum > disorder, > > the umbrella term for a range of disorders — from minor anomalies > such > > as low birth weight to severe FAS, the symptoms of which include > > mental retardation and facial abnormalities such as a short nose. > > > > The number of cases of FAS in Britain has increased in recent > years. > > So far the government and medical bodies have given out > conflicting > > messages about how much alcohol it is safe to drink during > pregnancy. > > > > Cases rising > > > > One per cent of British children suffer from autism, according to > the > > Office for National Statistics. Some academics argue that the > > percentage of children suffering from the disorder is increasing > but > > others say that numbers are up because of better diagnosis. > > > > Although the cause of autism is unknown, many doctors believe some > > people have a genetic predisposition towards it. > > > > Dr Wakefield linked autism to the vaccine for measles, > mumps > > and rubella, but the research was discredited. It led to a fall in > > immunisation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ -- > ---------- > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with > Search. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Great point, Peggy. Every time mainstream science tries to link a chemical-- any chemical-- to autism, it supports our point. The study showing that prenatal depakote exposure supports our point. Because chemical-any-chemical points to environment and, no matter what chemical " hand " they hold, we can always trump its toxicity with mercury. You can't get worse than mercury. Well, there's one thing worse than that, but you'd have to go on ebay to get whatever's left over from dismantled Russian nukes. Mercury martini anyone? How about a thimerosal mimosa? Aluminum margarita? Diethylene glycol on the rocks? I'd like to offer a free bar to those study authors. I'm sure they'd all abstain. > > > > > > Cigarette chemicals are used in growing tobacco, storing, and > > making the *Taste* and feel, preservation of the tobacco, for the > > cigar, cigarette, and snuff and chewing tobacco. > > > Long time , many chemicals, unless you buy organically grown > > tobacco products, available today. ng > > > Drinking while pregnant risks autism in babies > > > > > > > > > Here we go again. Vaccine alibi research. sigh -Lenny > > > > > > Drinking while pregnant risks autism in babies > > > -Kate Templeton, Health Editor > > > The Sunday Times, UK > > > > > > http://tinyurl. com/25fheq > > > > > > Women who drink alcohol during pregnancy may be putting their > > babies > > > at risk of developing autism, according to new research. > > > > > > The consultant psychiatrist who alerted the medical profession > to > > the > > > finding that drinking while pregnant can give babies a condition > > > called foetal alcohol syndrome (FAS) has now found that the > > > consumption of alcohol by expecting mothers can also cause > > autism. > > > > > > The research is the first to suggest that autism may be > triggered > > by > > > the child's mother drinking alcohol during pregnancy. > > > > > > The findings will heighten concern about the increase in alcohol > > > consumption among women of childbearing age. > > > > > > More than half of all mothers drink alcohol while pregnant, > > according > > > to the Department of Health. This week the National Institute > for > > > Health and Clinical Excellence will issue a new warning about > the > > > dangers. > > > > > > A recent survey showed 8% of women aged 18 to 24 had consumed > at > > least > > > 35 units of alcohol, the equivalent of about 15 glasses of wine, > > > during the previous week. Binge drinking among young women has > > > resulted in the number of alcohol-related deaths in women aged > 35 > > to > > > 54 doubling between 1991 and 2005. > > > > > > Earlier this year, the British Medical Association warned that > the > > > increase in alcohol consumption by young women will be > reflected > > in a > > > rise in drinking during pregnancy and, subsequently, will put > more > > > babies at risk of being damaged by alcohol while in the womb. > > > > > > Raja Mukherjee, consultant psychiatrist at Surrey Borders > > Partnership > > > NHS trust, has spent the past 18 months examining children who > > have > > > been damaged by their mother's drinking during pregnancy and > found > > > that a high proportion of them have autism. The research has > been > > > presented at scientific meetings. > > > > > > Mukherjee, who has presented his findings to medical colleagues, > > > declined to discuss them in detail before their publication in a > > > medical journal but said: " Genetic conditions are by far the > most > > > common cause of autism but that is not to say that other things > > cannot > > > cause it, and prenatal alcohol appears, possibly, to be [a > > cause]. > > > > > > " Unlike genetic conditions, this is 100% preventable. " > > > > > > Mukherjee has previously warned against any drinking during > > pregnancy > > > and believes that even low levels of alcohol may endanger > babies. > > > > > > Drinking during pregnancy can cause foetal alcohol spectrum > > disorder, > > > the umbrella term for a range of disorders — from minor > anomalies > > such > > > as low birth weight to severe FAS, the symptoms of which include > > > mental retardation and facial abnormalities such as a short > nose. > > > > > > The number of cases of FAS in Britain has increased in recent > > years. > > > So far the government and medical bodies have given out > > conflicting > > > messages about how much alcohol it is safe to drink during > > pregnancy. > > > > > > Cases rising > > > > > > One per cent of British children suffer from autism, according > to > > the > > > Office for National Statistics. Some academics argue that the > > > percentage of children suffering from the disorder is > increasing > > but > > > others say that numbers are up because of better diagnosis. > > > > > > Although the cause of autism is unknown, many doctors believe > some > > > people have a genetic predisposition towards it. > > > > > > Dr Wakefield linked autism to the vaccine for measles, > > mumps > > > and rubella, but the research was discredited. It led to a fall > in > > > immunisation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- -- > -- > > ---------- > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with > > Search. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 You know come to think of it. When I was a kid all they used was mercury amalgams. In fact I had a weird little habit of chewing on windowsils. I can remmeber getting some type of infection in my mouth from it and my mother used to have to paint my mouth with some purple stuff. I also remember she used to use mercurycom when I fell down and skinned my knees. The world sure has become alot more toxic since then. We only had two vaccines, polio, and smallpox. We were a lot more healthier than the kids are today, tons of energy, and no one was over weight. Those were the good old days. -- In EOHarm , " anacat_11 " <anacat_11@...> wrote: > > Great point, Peggy. Every time mainstream science tries to link a > chemical-- any chemical-- to autism, it supports our point. The study > showing that prenatal depakote exposure supports our point. Because > chemical-any-chemical points to environment and, no matter what > chemical " hand " they hold, we can always trump its toxicity with > mercury. You can't get worse than mercury. Well, there's one thing > worse than that, but you'd have to go on ebay to get whatever's left > over from dismantled Russian nukes. > > Mercury martini anyone? How about a thimerosal mimosa? Aluminum > margarita? Diethylene glycol on the rocks? I'd like to offer a free > bar to those study authors. I'm sure they'd all abstain. > > > > > > > > > > Cigarette chemicals are used in growing tobacco, storing, and > > > making the *Taste* and feel, preservation of the tobacco, for the > > > cigar, cigarette, and snuff and chewing tobacco. > > > > Long time , many chemicals, unless you buy organically grown > > > tobacco products, available today. ng > > > > Drinking while pregnant risks autism in > babies > > > > > > > > > > > > Here we go again. Vaccine alibi research. sigh -Lenny > > > > > > > > Drinking while pregnant risks autism in babies > > > > -Kate Templeton, Health Editor > > > > The Sunday Times, UK > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl. com/25fheq > > > > > > > > Women who drink alcohol during pregnancy may be putting their > > > babies > > > > at risk of developing autism, according to new research. > > > > > > > > The consultant psychiatrist who alerted the medical > profession > > to > > > the > > > > finding that drinking while pregnant can give babies a > condition > > > > called foetal alcohol syndrome (FAS) has now found that the > > > > consumption of alcohol by expecting mothers can also cause > > > autism. > > > > > > > > The research is the first to suggest that autism may be > > triggered > > > by > > > > the child's mother drinking alcohol during pregnancy. > > > > > > > > The findings will heighten concern about the increase in > alcohol > > > > consumption among women of childbearing age. > > > > > > > > More than half of all mothers drink alcohol while pregnant, > > > according > > > > to the Department of Health. This week the National Institute > > for > > > > Health and Clinical Excellence will issue a new warning about > > the > > > > dangers. > > > > > > > > A recent survey showed 8% of women aged 18 to 24 had consumed > > at > > > least > > > > 35 units of alcohol, the equivalent of about 15 glasses of > wine, > > > > during the previous week. Binge drinking among young women has > > > > resulted in the number of alcohol-related deaths in women > aged > > 35 > > > to > > > > 54 doubling between 1991 and 2005. > > > > > > > > Earlier this year, the British Medical Association warned > that > > the > > > > increase in alcohol consumption by young women will be > > reflected > > > in a > > > > rise in drinking during pregnancy and, subsequently, will put > > more > > > > babies at risk of being damaged by alcohol while in the womb. > > > > > > > > Raja Mukherjee, consultant psychiatrist at Surrey Borders > > > Partnership > > > > NHS trust, has spent the past 18 months examining children > who > > > have > > > > been damaged by their mother's drinking during pregnancy and > > found > > > > that a high proportion of them have autism. The research has > > been > > > > presented at scientific meetings. > > > > > > > > Mukherjee, who has presented his findings to medical > colleagues, > > > > declined to discuss them in detail before their publication > in a > > > > medical journal but said: " Genetic conditions are by far the > > most > > > > common cause of autism but that is not to say that other > things > > > cannot > > > > cause it, and prenatal alcohol appears, possibly, to be [a > > > cause]. > > > > > > > > " Unlike genetic conditions, this is 100% preventable. " > > > > > > > > Mukherjee has previously warned against any drinking during > > > pregnancy > > > > and believes that even low levels of alcohol may endanger > > babies. > > > > > > > > Drinking during pregnancy can cause foetal alcohol spectrum > > > disorder, > > > > the umbrella term for a range of disorders — from minor > > anomalies > > > such > > > > as low birth weight to severe FAS, the symptoms of which > include > > > > mental retardation and facial abnormalities such as a short > > nose. > > > > > > > > The number of cases of FAS in Britain has increased in recent > > > years. > > > > So far the government and medical bodies have given out > > > conflicting > > > > messages about how much alcohol it is safe to drink during > > > pregnancy. > > > > > > > > Cases rising > > > > > > > > One per cent of British children suffer from autism, > according > > to > > > the > > > > Office for National Statistics. Some academics argue that the > > > > percentage of children suffering from the disorder is > > increasing > > > but > > > > others say that numbers are up because of better diagnosis. > > > > > > > > Although the cause of autism is unknown, many doctors believe > > some > > > > people have a genetic predisposition towards it. > > > > > > > > Dr Wakefield linked autism to the vaccine for measles, > > > mumps > > > > and rubella, but the research was discredited. It led to a > fall > > in > > > > immunisation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- -- > -- > > -- > > > ---------- > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with > > > Search. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 There is a strong influence of the mother on the health of the baby, Bruce Lipton has some interesting things to say about that( brucelipton.com) and the homeopathic concept of miasms shows these influences have a profound effect. instead of blaming mums , I think our society should be protecting moms , from toxins, stresses, poor nutrition ,uncaring husbands /partners. Many older wiser cultures did this . At the moment feminism / society has created a' you can do the same as men attitude ";so now women have to get out in the toxic world and compete with the rest of the boys for money, then get back to work asap to leave the kid in childcare pumped full of crap. No time to cook, gotta do it all ...... Ange Re: Drinking while pregnant risks autism in babies Epigenetics shows (on Nova? PBS?) featured info or studies where damage occurred over generations when even the grandmother or great-grandmother smoked or were exposed to environmental toxins during pregnancy.This study is funny for me, because I hadn't had a drink in about 4 years when I was pregnant with my son, and definitely didn't drink during my pregnancy. I also never smoked (in my life). I didn't have dental work done, didn't get Rhogam, didn't have a flu shot, didn't do drugs, didn't...you get the picture.Nice of them to go right back to blaming it on the moms, though. There IS such a thing as sperm morphology and paternal contributions to the genetics of a child, after all. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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