Guest guest Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Autism and vaccines: What's the link? By | Thursday, March 20, 2008, 07:32 AM The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Journalist Kirby calls on federal government officials to be more forthcoming about links between childhood vaccines and autism following the government's acknowledgment in the Hannah Poling case of a connection between the two. Kirby also suggests spreading out vaccines to ease the impact on the immune systems of children at risk. What should be done? This blog is closed for commenting, but will reopen Friday morning. Permalink | Comments (38) | Categories: Forum Comments Commenting is now closed for this entry. By Ted P March 20, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this More research is needed. Recent finding that genes may have a larger roll needs to be explored. Could the vaccines some how " trip " the fragile gene into autism? By hegelian March 20, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this Delete the needless ones from the regimen. Reduce the total from about 35 or 40 down to about the 5 or 10 most necessary. Never give more than 1 shot at a time. Wait until 2 or 3 years old before giving the first one. That will give the little ones immune system time to build. By IKnow March 20, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this http://www.generationrescue.org/vaccines.html The link above offers three separate vaccine schedules for parents to consider. The only solution to ending the autism epidemic is to change the national vaccine schedule. As Mr. Kirby demonstrates, however, our health authorities are in denial and CYA mode. The schedule will not change until the CDC has new leadership. In the meantime, I would advise a parent to take matters into their own hands. If this information were readily available 4 years ago, I don't believe I would have a son today with autism. Mr. Kirby, I can't quantify how many parents you have helped keep their child from the autism trigger, but it numbers in the 6 to 7 figures. Bravo!! By Mark March 20, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this We have a public health bureaucracy that is running out of control with little regard to its true mission and the consequences of its behavior. Thanks , for shining a light on this problem. By IKnow March 20, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this http://www.generationrescue.org/vaccines.html The link above offers three separate vaccine schedules for parents to consider. The only solution to ending the autism epidemic is to change the national vaccine schedule. As Mr. Kirby demonstrates, however, our health authorities are in denial and CYA mode. The schedule will not change until the CDC has new leadership. In the meantime, I would advise a parent to take matters into their own hands. If this information were readily available 4 years ago, I don't believe I would have a son today with autism. Mr. Kirby, I can't quantify how many parents you have helped keep their child from the autism trigger, but it numbers in the 6 to 7 figures. Bravo!! By P. Rose March 20, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this There is only one vaccine schedule I am willing to follow. None! For Gods Sake, there are more problems with vaccines than just causing autism as if that isn't enough. It has to be pretty obvious to all by now that CDC, NIH, FDA, Public Health Departments are in bed with the pharmaceuticals and the plan is to mandate any and all vaccines for our children. These idiots will stop at nothing, no amount of lawsuits will stop them. There is only one way and that is to refuse to vaccinate. There will never be a safe vaccine. As soon as they take one toxic substance out, they will add another. Here we are 15 years into to fight about the neuro toxicity of thimerisol. Is is out yet, NO! they are still denying it. By Anne Dachel March 20, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this The CDC has long ignored the explosion in the autism rate. As the numbers went from one in 10,000 in the 1970s to one in every 150 children today, they told us it just wasn't happening. All the sick children were the result of " better diagnosing " by doctors and no real cause for alarm. They can't tell us what causes autism. The only thing they know for sure is that it isn't the vaccines. Is it any wonder that Dr. Gerberding plans to ignore the Poling case too? Anne McElroy Dachel Chippewa Falls, WI USA Member of the board of A-CHAMP http://www.a-champ.org By FEDUP March 20, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this To those of you who are in denial, deny this: mercury exposure did not raise your kids' IQ. THIMEROSAL Hazard symbol: T+ = Very toxic Criteria: Inhalation, swallowing, or absorption through the skin in very small amounts can cause considerable damage to health, and may sometimes be lethal. In the event of serious evidence of severe, possibly irreversible damage to health by single, repeated, or prolonged absorption. Precaution: All contact with the human body must be avoided. If you feel unwell, seek medical advice immediately! Symptoms of exposure to this class of compounds includes aphthous stomatitis, catarrhal gingivitis, nausea, liquid stools, pain, liver dis- order, injury to the cardiovascular system and hematopoietic system, deafness and ataxia. Exposure may be fatal. Headache, paresthesia of the tongue, lips, fingers and toes, other non- specific dysfunctions, metallic taste, slight gastrointestinal disturbances, excessive flatus and diarrhea may occur. Acute poisoning may cause gastrointestinal irritation and renal failure. Early signs of severe poisoning include fine tremors of extended hands, loss of side vision, slight loss of coordination in the eyes, speech, writing and gait, inability to stand or carry out voluntary movements, occasional muscle atrophy and flexure contractures, generalized myoclonic movements, difficulty under- standing ordinary speech, irritability and bad temper progressing to mania, stupor, coma, mental retardation in children, skin irritation, blisters and dermatitis [173]. Other symptoms include chorea, athetosis, tremors, convul- sions, pain and numbness in the extremities, nephritis, salivation, loosening of the teeth, blue line on the gums, anxiety, mental depression, insomnia, hallucinations and central nervous system effects [301]. Exposure may also cause irritation of the eyes, mucous membranes and upper respiratory tract [269]. By Fournier March 20, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this The CDC's continued denial of the autism epidemic and refusal to address vaccine safety is disgraceful. How many more families will they destroy? How many more children will they dismiss as collateral damage before they finally admit that they are knowingly poisoning the children of this county - the children that it is their responsibility to protect? CDC and Gerberding are miserably failing in their duties. Vaccine safety should be stripped away from CDC immediately and their Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices - which is chock full of members with financial interest in vaccines - should be disbanded. Ask your reps in Congress to support Congressman Dave Weldon's bill (HR1973) to establish an independent agency for vaccine safety and get these pathetic, bought and paid for pharma reps away from our children. By Gatogorra March 20, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this It's unprecedented that this information is finally reaching the mainstream press. Had I heard a single whiff of the controversy before our twins were born in 2003, they wouldn't currently be statistics. I'm only glad that people who are now planning to have children have an opportunity to head off disaster because of the few but outspoken advocates for children's health who set the record straight about vaccine risks, such as Kirby. New parents beware: short of losing a child outright (SIDS is linked to hypervaccination as well), there is no more grotesque heartbreak than seeing a child cognitively and physically disintegrate in your arms. Life is never the same. Though some paths of recovery from vaccine injuries are quite miraculous, it's extremely difficult to bring about and I would rather that other parents were able to enjoy their children as they were meant to be. Better to read about it all in a book than to have to go through it— and Kirby and others have provided this option. Don't take it for granted. By Maurine Meleck March 20, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this Tens of thousands of members of the autism community know that vaccines caused their childrens' autism and we are NEVER going away until the government admits (what it already knows) that there is a connection between vaccines and autism. It's way past time for the everyone to recognize what has happened to our children in the last 20 years and how they were poisoned. Let's stop more autism and let's take care of the children who already so sick. We need everyones help. Support Congressman Weldon's bill and stop this charade by assuming that vaccines are safe because the CDC said they are. By Dixon March 20, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this Kids were poisoned by the thousands. The government knows it. There's an old saying. " Murder will out. " Sooner or later, the truth always comes out, and at long, LONG last, the dam is finally starting to burst on this horrible medical travesty. Future generations will be ashamed and horrified at what has been done to an entire generation of children. Kirby is a hero. Support the Weldon bill. Demand accountability from our government. Give money to autism advocacy groups such as the HEAL Foundation. Raise hell! By Mike Dow March 20, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this I refuse to believe that Gerberding is grossly misinformed which would mean that she is either stupid or evil…or both. Many parents were pleased when Dr. Gerberding announced she was finally going to seperate the vaccine " watchdog " department away from the vaccine " promotion " department of the CDC, only to suck it into her own office where sleeping dogs are allowed to lie. The CDC has too many conflicts of interests and it is time for Dr. Gerberding to go! By Lucille Willoughby March 20, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this Why do humans think that they can get something for nothing? Or that tinkering with Nature will have no consequences. I suspect one of the reasons for the high incidences of autism may be the simple fact that our children aren't dying like they used to. Rubella, measles, polio, whooping cough, typhus, scarlet fever, mumps, smallpox, chicken pox, all of these diseases are either extinct or nowhere near as deadly as they once were. As cruel as it sounds, these diseases took out a percentge of the population that was either naturally weak or otherwise impaired immune systems. Perhaps autism is the price you have to pay for an infant mortality rate that is close to " zero " , not because the vaccines create the condition, but because they all children who would have otherwise died of rubella or mumps to age enough that the condition is noticable. It's like the spike in Alzheimers—as technology (and not genetics)allows more and more of us to live well into our 90s, if not 100s, we're seeing more of this disease. Is it simply because there is more Alzheimers, or is it simply we're no longer dying too young for the disease to manifest itself? Whatever Man wrests from from one hand, Naure eventually takes back from the other. By CHARLES A HOOVER March 20, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this The CDC has for years ignored the pleas of parents from coast to coast begging them to openly and without prejudice investigate the vaccine autism connection. This has not happened. Children vaccination rates will decline and the CDC has no one to blame but themselves. I'd like to think of this as the " Verstraeten Phenomenon " in honor of the CDC epidemiologist who first identified that there was an autism-vaccine connection but whose data was twisted to hide the truth. Charlie By WeWillPrevail March 20, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self- evident. Arthur Schopenhauer German philosopher (1788 - 1860) the earth revolves around the sun the earth is flat U.S. vaccine ingredients are safe I think that as soon as we can get through the violently opposed stage…we can move on to healing our children and preventing future harm both in the U.S. and to all those unsuspecting, well-meaning countries around the world that purchase/use our vaccines and follow our vaccine schedule. By Garbo March 20, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this What should be done? The people responsible for the cover-up of vaccine damage to infants and children should be rode out of town on a rail, sent to jail, and forced to sell their pharma holdings and donate the proceeds to families affected by autism, that would be a good first step. And the required vaccine schedule should be limited to highly transmissible, deadly public epidemic-type diseases like polio, not lifestyle diseases like Hep B or HPV, or childhood diseases like chickenpox that are largely harmless. And the flu vaccine, which doesn't really work on either old people or children and this year doesn't seem to work on anyone at all because the formula doesn't match the disease, should be abandoned altogether. It's dangerous and it's ineffective. All remaining vaccines, whether for children or adults (including deploying soliders) should be made safer by removing dangerous neurotoxic adjuvants like mercury and aluminum. No combinations of vaccines should be given concommitantly unless they have been specifically tested together for unexpected interactions. By joe harris March 20, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this The NIH needs to practice what is written on thier building like they once did, when they had integrity. " The right to search for truth implies also a duty. One must not conceal any part of what one has recognized to be true. " Albert Einstein (engraved on National Academy of Sciences building in Washington, D.C., location of NIH & IOM) By March 20, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this It seems now that through the vaccine court and HHS documentation that public health officals are aware of what has and can happen with a one-size-fits-all multiple vaccine schedule. If they continue to insist on doing this to the public and more are harmed - can criminal charges be filed? By joe harris March 20, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this Please understand, this massive mercury poisoning is very embarrasing to the medical establishment. The truth is comming out, the jeanie is out of the bottle. There will be no putting it back in. By March 20, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this Now that the HHS and Vaccine Court documentation has verfied injury and public officals are aware.. if the public health officals at the CDC and Vaccine Advisery boards continue their program of a one-size-fits-all application of multiple vaccines …where can criminal charges be filed? By Denial IS Easy March 20, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this Are you " Lingering in Denial " ? Why are US vaccine ingredients toxic poisons on the Material Safety Data Sheets? Why must doctors dispose of them as biological hazards but it is OK to inject them into humans? Humans don't have a shortage of thimerosal/mercury or aluminum… Before you object, do your own research and don't blindly follow what you are being told by a government that has had some issues with telling the truth… And by the way, if you continue to believe the CDC, there are several gifts from the government for you - flu shots with mercury and aluminum -can you say Alzheimers and Parkinsons? By Garbo March 20, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this The spike in Alzheimers, the spike in ALS, the spike in asthma, the spike in autism, the spike in lupus, the spike in MS, the spike in Crohn's disease, the spike in deadly food allergies, these are not just coincidental. These autoimmune diseases have similar underlying features. Maybe they are all triggered by environmental causes, whether vaccines or environmental pollutants like lead, mercury and pesticides. Our kids are the proverbial canaries in the coalmine. We may not be able to control with any certainty what's in the air or water, but we can darn sure control what gets injected into their bodies. Lucille, it's one thing to say that sick or weak kids would have died of other diseases anyway, but you are ignoring the fact that ALL of these kids are presenting with a very similar array of medical symptoms. It's not random, they aren't succumbing to different illnesses — they are all presenting with the same illness. This number of 1 in 150 autistic kids isn't made up out of thin air, and it didn't start back in the 60s and 70s when I was young and vaccinated, it started to present as an epidemic in the 1990s when the vaccine schedule was expanded. It's not a passive coincidence — something is being done TO them to make them sick. All parents want is the truth — the CDC should open their files, including the original data sets of the Verstraeten study and the incidence reports in the VAERS database, to all researchers. By W. , MD, PhD. March 20, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this Dear Readers, I have previously presented information that autism is caused by congenital infection with structurally altered viruses that lack the relatively few components targeted by the cellular immune system. Such viruses have been grouped under the generic terms stealth and stealth-adapted. I have also published findings on brain biopsies showing the marked mitochondrial damage that occurs in stealth adapted virus infected cells. This research has led to a clinical study based on Activation of the " Alternative Cellular Energy (ACE) Pathway as Natural Therapy for Patients with Autism. " The initial results have been submitted for publication. I would like to see a more informed effort at educating public health authorities about stealth adapted viruses; some of which presumably arose from earlier batches of simian cytomegalovirus (SCMV)contaminated polio vaccines. Another important topic that came out of the recent clinical trial is the plight of children being born to autistic parents. This issue needs to be addressed by the various autism support groups. Kind regards, W. , MD, PhD. Institute of Progressive Medicine, www.s3support.com, s3support@... By ny200 March 20, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this Does anyone know if the CDC has been asked for a formal reply to the issues raised in this OpEd? Is anyone out there going to try, I wonder? By Tim Kasemodel March 20, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this Any drug advertising is required to list its side effects and those who have any underlying disorder which would mean that drug is " not right for you " . Catch any " Abilify " ad for a great example. Vaccines are apparently exempt from this requirement. The health agencies charged with our protection encourage us to be understandably cautious when taking any oral medication. Yet they expect us to be brainwashed into believing that any injected vaccines are as safe as water, for everybody. We willingly bring our children, born and unborn, to our trusted doctors for vaccinations to keep them as healthy as possible. I only ask that they show as much concern for conditions that may make any vaccine " not right for this child " as they do for the prevention of childhood disease. The only way to do that is to step back and re- evaluate the childhood vaccines schedule. Parents around this country are " understandably cautious " . This is not about irrational fear, it is about common sense. It is time for a little common sense in Atlanta. And time for change. By cynditk March 20, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this Thanks Kirby for standing up for justice and speaking for the thousands of parents who wouldn't otherwise be heard! By TheProbe March 20, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this Based on my reading of the comments, the children were born with defective genes, as their parents are clearly defective. What a bunch of morons. Incredible. This country is doomed. By Brown March 20, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this God bless Kirby. This man has stood up for our families and our children for years and we owe him so much. has brought this nation to the brink of acknowledging a truth that was originally destined to be swept under the rug by our own CDC. Right now it feels like a warm, sunny, summer day and we're gathered at the carnival where Gerberding is seated on the wooden platform at the Dunk Tank. Mr. Kirby is on the lawn, warming up his pitching arm and his 110 mile per hour fast ball. Our families have all gathered round underneath a shady tree to watch this spectacle, enjoying our wheat/gluten/dairy/casein/food dye/preservative/sugar free picnics, while we anxiously await Mr. Kirby's next pitch. You can feel the excitement in the air as our hero glares at the red bullseye painted over the dunk tank's release arm. Imagine a hush coming over the crowd (one would have to imagine this because, well, our kids are autistic and have no concept of the word hush). The next pitch is due and, as we all know, Mr. Kirby hasn't missed yet. Again, , " Thank You! " With your help we can hopefully recover some of those warm, sunny summer days we've lost to autism. Once we do, let's take the kids to the carnival. By Best March 20, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this Nine years ago, the CDC's Verstraeten told us that vaccines caused autism. Thanks to that information, some of us are curing our autistic children. Since we already know the truth, Gerberding should stop trying to hide it and fund treatment for all people with autism today. Autism sucks, let's get rid of it. By Kim Stagliano March 20, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this , thank you. As the mother of three children with autism, we need your voice. The CDC, AAP and virtually every mainstream doc in America has written off our children as a " genetic anomaly. " Several swear words come to mind, none printable in a family blog. SOMETHING has caused the autism epidemic. CDC darn well better crawl out from under their rock and start turning over rocks. In the meantime, lets keep throwing " rocks " with op-ed pieces like yours. Thank you to the AJC for the bravery to print your piece. NYT? What a joke. Kim Stagliano Managing Editor: ageofautism.com Huffington Post Blogger kimstagliano.blogspot.com By Action NOW March 20, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this Remember when Tylenol was poisoned - how fast that company pulled it off the shelves - did a complete recall? Why can't the CDC, FDA, NIH, AAP be that ethical? Where is their urgency? Have they forgotten " First, do no harm " ? We need the truth about vaccine safety. We want the Poling documents released. We want access to the VSD, the publicly financed Vaccine Safety Datalink database that may answer important questions about vaccines and their relationship to neurodevelopmental disorders such as autism. We want the statute of limitations extended with a look back provision so that hundreds of thousands children harmed by vaccines are allowed access to justice. The current process is illogical. We want the FDA to answer Congressman Dan Burton's questions. How much thimerosal is considered a " trace amount " by the FDA and who, if anyone, is testing mercury content in currently licensed vaccines? We want Congress to hold hearings on why hundreds of thousands of children are suffering with neurodevelopmental disorders in an unprecedented epidemic. We want the CDC and the FDA held accountable. Six small steps for humankind. Please. By Weed March 20, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this I am the mother of a beautiful 10 year old daughter who is impaired and silenced, poisoned by the bolus overdose of mercury (before the reduction) via vaccines she received. The United States has been hit with the greatest medical crisis among young children in modern history. We are experiencing a full fledged EPIDEMIC. If autism were contagious the black helicopters would be hovering and the sirens would be sounding! Autism is not from the neck up, these children are sick, they have underlying illnesses, auto-immune diseases, oxidative stress and are neurologically impaired. All the underlying illness and neurological damage these children suffer from point directly to neuro-toxins in the vaccines specifically mercury. To mandate over 30 vaccines on an over crowded vaccine schedule wreaks havoc on our most venerable and is extremely unsafe. As a parent of a child swept up in this epidemic, I am outraged at the total lack of effort or response from " health " organizations, the CDC, HHS and AAP. Gerberding, leading the CDC (deemed to " protect " ) has coldly sat idle in the wake of this horrific tragedy. Ms. Gerberding has turned her back on families and children refusing to investigate the sick children themselves. Gerberding needs to quickly be replaced with someone who will protect our children and champion this cause. The government agencies try to pacify parents by insanely throwing millions of dollars into genetic research. It is like trying to find a gene for a lung cancer patient, while that person is struggling holding on to life, and offering them no help. We need to treat the illnesses these children have while they are sick, and investigate the root cause which is obviously triggered by toxic environmental exposures. Many children are receiving bio-medical treatment and are recovering. Why isn't some one looking at these recovered children. It is time for the medical community, pharmaceutical/vaccine manufacturers, and the government agencies to fess up to this atrocity and clean up this toxic mess they have created. The future of our children and this nation depends on it. Thanks Kirby, you are a great voice for my daughter. Weed HEAL Foundation Healing Every Autistic Life By joe harris March 20, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this A simple Google search will net you a wealth of research, that heavy metals and toxins as ingrediants in the vaccines for example: just ethyl-mercury in Parts Per Billion comming in at 32,500 PPB. liquid toxic waste is a wopping 200 PPB it would take a fool to defend 32,500 PPB, and it can cause mitochondria dysfuntion, it would take a fool to dispute this. You see they deplete the glutathion in the mitochondria. we now know, the mechanisim that caused the depletion of our childs glutathion, it was as we thought. " Vaccinations they contain at least four neuro-toxins: mercury, formaldehyde, MSG and aluminum hydroxide. All of which can and have caused mitochondrial disorders " my son, like thousands of others have Labs proving mercury toxicity " I wish people could understand the synergy effect of the two salts mixed, murcury by it's self will kill cells, then these bright bunnys added aluminum, they seem to work togather and become super toxins, and the killing factor then becomes x 10 now thanks to China, we can add lead to that. Any one know what three salts mixed, causes in nuron cell death ? reason, some children that are effected start chewing everything, all toys for how long? have contained lead and those children seem to be effected, and are the most damaged now we can factor in a study on testostarone: A Yale School of Medicine study shows for the first time that a high level of testosterone, such as that caused by the use of steroids to increase muscle mass or for replacement therapy, can lead to a catastrophic loss of brain cells. WOW! with all this nuron cell death, it's a wonder that our kids can even think, Oh! yes thats right some can't any more. and that's courtsey of FDA, CDC, AAP, and now the so called prestigious IOM, Seems their sacrificing their good name, for the greater good AKA keeping filthy rich corporations that poison children from paying for the damage done to american children and to the children of the world . . By ThoJ March 20, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this Having watched Mr. Kirby for some time, I can only say that I will wait to actually read the documents myself and hear the explanations myself. Mr. Kirby's interepretations have been off in the past. Way off. This piece has far too little substance and far too much of Mr. Kirby's interpretations. This page has been linked to by a few of the groups promoting the idea that autism is vaccine injury. It should soon be flooded with similar calls for action. One side note—it is a laugh-out-loud moment for those of us following this story to see Mr. Kirby scold anyone for mis- statements about how the court works. His own statements on the internet have sewn a a long trail of misinformation. By Ricci King March 20, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this Many thanks to Kirby for his courage, vigilance, and journalistic integrity, with regard to writing about the relationship between immunizations and the increase in the cases of autism in the United States. And thanks also to the AJC for printing Mr. Kirby's editorial. As Mr. Kirby states, the Poling case is not unusual. In addition to the dozen or more autism related cases that have already been compensated in Vaccine Court, thousands of other families are reporting the same chain of events that led to Hannah's autism in their own children diagnosed with autism. Mr. Kirby is providing a much needed voice in this matter, as when parents come forward to speak on behalf of their children, they are ridiculed or ignored by the medical community and our government. The CDC, and particularly Dr. Gerberding, has maintained an ambivalence that has led to an unnecessary and preventable explosion of children suffering from autism. It is impossible to calculate the mental, emotional and financial devastation that the rise in autism has caused U.S. families, and our nation as a whole. To add to the insanity of the matter, parents who sought to do what is best for their children, and followed the vaccine protocol, are labeled " anti-vaccine " when they come forward to describe the events that led to their child developing autism. Are parents supposed to be comforted that there are now only " traces " of mercury reported to be in childhood immunizations, along with aluminum, formaldehyde, ethylene glycol, and a host of other toxins? Is it unreasonable to ask that research into the safety of the vaccine schedule be undertaken, since there is absolutely no research to determine the safety of giving the multiple vaccines that children today are receiving? Why would a new mother, who was instructed throughout her pregnancy to avoid eating fish, due to potential mercury contamination, trust a government who tells her that it is okay to inject her baby with " traces " of mercury? Our current vaccine schedule is like a science experiment gone bad. We need to admit it, and stop making innocent children sick. But before we do anything, we need to send Gerberding packing. By Robin Nemeth March 20, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this It is not just the government officials with the CDC who are guilty. It is the main stream media, which has refused to cover this for at least a decade, on the news, in between pharmaceutical commercials, while more and more children have been destroyed. It is the `philanthropic' organizations like Autism Speaks, which have raised millions of dollars that they've used only to fund science that looks at genetics, and to silence anyone who tries to say `thimerosal'. It is the vaccine makers, marketing executives, nurses and doctors and others who are profiting, as we speak, from the administration of thimerosal toxic flu vaccines. What did Americans think was going to happen when a whole group of people was denied the opportunity to seek redress in a court of law for harm that was done to them, without first going through the no fault `Vaccine Court'? Money paid in vaccine damage settlements does not come out of vaccine manufacturer profits. It is paid out of a fund created through excise taxes that were levied on the vaccines that poisoned your children. Yes, you, as an American, got to pay to poison your own child, when you paid for those mandated shots. As long as the people who did this are not held accountable, more and more people will be destroyed while the people responsible profit. I would like to see congressional investigations. And then, something on the order of the Nuremburg trials. No fines, please. The guilty parties belong in prison. Robin Nemeth By joe harris March 20, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this this is to ThoJ answer any of my post, are you fool enough to defend 32,500 PPB when 200 PPB is liquid hazardious waste. And must be cleaned up by people in space suites. Maybe they the CDC FDA AAP and IOM think of our children as toxic dumps sites well that day is soon comming to an end do you hear the anger and wisdom comming from these post … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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