Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Please someone help!!I don't know if the following info willhelp,but at the very least they should NOT have to pay an attorney!!!! Disability Rights Education and Defense Fund Inc. Primary Address: 2212 6th St City: Berkeley State: CA Zipcode: 94710-2219 General Phone: 510-644-2555 Fax: 510-841-8645 Counties Served: Nationwide Case Types: Education, Individual Rights Other Case Types: Civil Rights, Disability Web Site: http://www.dredf.org --- anacat_11 <anacat_11@...> wrote: > Can Horton hear a Who? > > The time to take action on this is running out. The > family is in > Orange County. Maybe someone in California will care > enough to help. > The family's lawyer, whom they can scarcely afford, > is not making > headway and they cannot even get a specialist onto > the Fairview > institution grounds to check the boy's condition. > The boy was sent to > the stroke unit in ER some weeks ago because the > drugs the > institution is forcing on him are killing him. The > institution > snatched him right back out of trauma unit and then > increased all his > doses to the maximum. The description of Nate's > condition by his > father in the post below is hard to read, but bear > in mind that the > situation has gotten worse. > > > http://www.getnatehome.com/in_the_media > http://www.getnatehome.com > > Dear friends. We received very bad news for Nate and > our family from > the Fairview administration and the doctor today. > These people are > enforcing our son on Geodon - psychotropic drug > which is extremely > harmful and poisonous for our son. They are starting > this drug from > today evening. They took our son from home > completely physically > healthy and since they started him on different > psychotropic drugs > against his will and his family he developed Grand > Mal seizures - > epilepsy. These drugs don't have any medical merit. > They are used as > chemical restrains which are additional to physical > restrains used on > him often.It is against medical advice from a number > of the doctors > including medical experts in neurology. It is not > ethical practice of > medicine. It is not necessary. Our son who was very > energetic before > is spending all his days in the bed as the result of > the harmful > drugs they impose on him earlier. From the > psychotropic drugs our son > was delivered in critical condition numbers of time > to the emergency > room of the different hospital. Last time he was > admitted to > the Hoag Hospital emergency room with epileptic > seizures after he was > enforced to psychotropic drug as the punishment and > chemical > restrains to the behaviors which our son doesn't > have control because > of his sensory issue and his response to his > isolation, harmful > drugs, and the environment since he removed from his > family. We sow > in the hospital his reactions on this poisonous > drugs which his > body do not accept. He was having terrible pains, > his body was all > red, his breathing was stopping and his heart rate > was high when his > blood pressure was low. We days and nights were > sitting at his bed in > the stroke unit of the hospital. Since this day > January 21, 2008 our > son is different. He looks like he suffered stroke > or brain damage > because his speech is blurred, his coordination is > unstable, his > memory and eyes visions is effected. We came to this > country to > live dissent life, free of the suppression. > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Anacat, myself, and others on this list have been trying to get help for this family for weeks. They are having trouble getting a donation link/site up and running for Nate. I have an attorney who contacted me today from COPAA (A California organization of parents, advocates, and attorneys) interested in taking Nate's case, and no one has contacted me. I have spoken to his mother who is pleading for help and the situation with Nate's meds and I am doing all I can ( I have two kids that are injured). I have contacted all of my representatives and their staff that I know, and found that they have to go through " casework " , which apparently is not an option. This is a horrible situation, and I am a little disappointed with other CA orgs that I have contacted and have not responded. King > > > Can Horton hear a Who? > > > > The time to take action on this is running out. The > > family is in > > Orange County. Maybe someone in California will care > > enough to help. > > The family's lawyer, whom they can scarcely afford, > > is not making > > headway and they cannot even get a specialist onto > > the Fairview > > institution grounds to check the boy's condition. > > The boy was sent to > > the stroke unit in ER some weeks ago because the > > drugs the > > institution is forcing on him are killing him. The > > institution > > snatched him right back out of trauma unit and then > > increased all his > > doses to the maximum. The description of Nate's > > condition by his > > father in the post below is hard to read, but bear > > in mind that the > > situation has gotten worse. > > > > > > http://www.getnatehome.com/in_the_media > > http://www.getnatehome.com > > > > Dear friends. We received very bad news for Nate and > > our family from > > the Fairview administration and the doctor today. > > These people are > > enforcing our son on Geodon - psychotropic drug > > which is extremely > > harmful and poisonous for our son. They are starting > > this drug from > > today evening. They took our son from home > > completely physically > > healthy and since they started him on different > > psychotropic drugs > > against his will and his family he developed Grand > > Mal seizures - > > epilepsy. These drugs don't have any medical merit. > > They are used as > > chemical restrains which are additional to physical > > restrains used on > > him often.It is against medical advice from a number > > of the doctors > > including medical experts in neurology. It is not > > ethical practice of > > medicine. It is not necessary. Our son who was very > > energetic before > > is spending all his days in the bed as the result of > > the harmful > > drugs they impose on him earlier. From the > > psychotropic drugs our son > > was delivered in critical condition numbers of time > > to the emergency > > room of the different hospital. Last time he was > > admitted to > > the Hoag Hospital emergency room with epileptic > > seizures after he was > > enforced to psychotropic drug as the punishment and > > chemical > > restrains to the behaviors which our son doesn't > > have control because > > of his sensory issue and his response to his > > isolation, harmful > > drugs, and the environment since he removed from his > > family. We sow > > in the hospital his reactions on this poisonous > > drugs which his > > body do not accept. He was having terrible pains, > > his body was all > > red, his breathing was stopping and his heart rate > > was high when his > > blood pressure was low. We days and nights were > > sitting at his bed in > > the stroke unit of the hospital. Since this day > > January 21, 2008 our > > son is different. He looks like he suffered stroke > > or brain damage > > because his speech is blurred, his coordination is > > unstable, his > > memory and eyes visions is effected. We came to this > > country to > > live dissent life, free of the suppression. > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 I'll try some CA orgs tomorrow. --- King <medfordkings1@...> wrote: > Anacat, myself, and others on this list have been > trying to get help for this family for > weeks. They are having trouble getting a donation > link/site up and running for Nate. I > have an attorney who contacted me today from COPAA > (A California organization of > parents, advocates, and attorneys) interested in > taking Nate's case, and no one has > contacted me. I have spoken to his mother who is > pleading for help and the situation with > Nate's meds and I am doing all I can ( I have two > kids that are injured). I have contacted all > of my representatives and their staff that I know, > and found that they have to go through > " casework " , which apparently is not an option. > > This is a horrible situation, and I am a little > disappointed with other CA orgs that I have > contacted and have not responded. > > King > > > > > > > Can Horton hear a Who? > > > > > > The time to take action on this is running out. > The > > > family is in > > > Orange County. Maybe someone in California will > care > > > enough to help. > > > The family's lawyer, whom they can scarcely > afford, > > > is not making > > > headway and they cannot even get a specialist > onto > > > the Fairview > > > institution grounds to check the boy's > condition. > > > The boy was sent to > > > the stroke unit in ER some weeks ago because the > > > drugs the > > > institution is forcing on him are killing him. > The > > > institution > > > snatched him right back out of trauma unit and > then > > > increased all his > > > doses to the maximum. The description of Nate's > > > condition by his > > > father in the post below is hard to read, but > bear > > > in mind that the > > > situation has gotten worse. > > > > > > > > > http://www.getnatehome.com/in_the_media > > > http://www.getnatehome.com > > > > > > Dear friends. We received very bad news for Nate > and > > > our family from > > > the Fairview administration and the doctor > today. > > > These people are > > > enforcing our son on Geodon - psychotropic drug > > > which is extremely > > > harmful and poisonous for our son. They are > starting > > > this drug from > > > today evening. They took our son from home > > > completely physically > > > healthy and since they started him on different > > > psychotropic drugs > > > against his will and his family he developed > Grand > > > Mal seizures - > > > epilepsy. These drugs don't have any medical > merit. > > > They are used as > > > chemical restrains which are additional to > physical > > > restrains used on > > > him often.It is against medical advice from a > number > > > of the doctors > > > including medical experts in neurology. It is > not > > > ethical practice of > > > medicine. It is not necessary. Our son who was > very > > > energetic before > > > is spending all his days in the bed as the > result of > > > the harmful > > > drugs they impose on him earlier. From the > > > psychotropic drugs our son > > > was delivered in critical condition numbers of > time > > > to the emergency > > > room of the different hospital. Last time he was > > > admitted to > > > the Hoag Hospital emergency room with epileptic > > > seizures after he was > > > enforced to psychotropic drug as the punishment > and > > > chemical > > > restrains to the behaviors which our son doesn't > > > have control because > > > of his sensory issue and his response to his > > > isolation, harmful > > > drugs, and the environment since he removed from > his > > > family. We sow > > > in the hospital his reactions on this poisonous > > > drugs which his > > > body do not accept. He was having terrible > pains, > > > his body was all > > > red, his breathing was stopping and his heart > rate > > > was high when his > > > blood pressure was low. We days and nights were > > > sitting at his bed in > > > the stroke unit of the hospital. Since this day > > > January 21, 2008 our > > > son is different. He looks like he suffered > stroke > > > or brain damage > > > because his speech is blurred, his coordination > is > > > unstable, his > > > memory and eyes visions is effected. We came to > this > > > country to > > > live dissent life, free of the suppression. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Well, TACA responded immediately with referrals and a supportive email, and some professionals have made contact with the Tseglins. But more is needed to fight the racket that Fairview has going. It's like they're on a quest to kill the child. So I know what you mean. I don't get why there hasn't been more response. The family has had to borrow money to hire the attorney they have and are in dire straits to hire a qualified neurologist or reform psychiatrist to see Nate. The instituation won't let the family's choice of doctor in to see Nate anyway and their current attorney doesn't seem to have an answer for this, though I don't know what happened to today or what will happen tomorrow. I wonder if what the family needs is press, press, press and someone with serious clout and visibility to take up the cause. The institution holding the boy is pure evil. > > Anacat, myself, and others on this list have been trying to get help for this family for > weeks. They are having trouble getting a donation link/site up and running for Nate. I > have an attorney who contacted me today from COPAA (A California organization of > parents, advocates, and attorneys) interested in taking Nate's case, and no one has > contacted me. I have spoken to his mother who is pleading for help and the situation with > Nate's meds and I am doing all I can ( I have two kids that are injured). I have contacted all > of my representatives and their staff that I know, and found that they have to go through > " casework " , which apparently is not an option. > > This is a horrible situation, and I am a little disappointed with other CA orgs that I have > contacted and have not responded. > > King > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Thank you, , you're a doll! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 I am glad to hear that TACA responded. We do need press coverage on this. I have contacted all of my press contacts and more (I am in Northern California), but no one wants to cover this. I have spoke to people with the SacBee, local news stations, the Contra Costa Times, etc.. No one will cover this. This family really needs an advocate versed in the type of chemical abuse that Nate is going through, but I don't know if it's going to happen. > > > > Anacat, myself, and others on this list have been trying to get > help for this family for > > weeks. They are having trouble getting a donation link/site up and > running for Nate. I > > have an attorney who contacted me today from COPAA (A California > organization of > > parents, advocates, and attorneys) interested in taking Nate's > case, and no one has > > contacted me. I have spoken to his mother who is pleading for help > and the situation with > > Nate's meds and I am doing all I can ( I have two kids that are > injured). I have contacted all > > of my representatives and their staff that I know, and found that > they have to go through > > " casework " , which apparently is not an option. > > > > This is a horrible situation, and I am a little disappointed with > other CA orgs that I have > > contacted and have not responded. > > > > King > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 How can publications not cover this? In this correspondence I had with a psychopharmaceutical expert, she wrote the creepiest thing about her experience as a plaintiff expert witness against Eli Lilly for a drug injury or death suit. I don't think she's normally prone to dramatic language or religious reference. She was deposed five times, for eight hours at a stretch by Lilly attorneys and wrote, " They are evil. I mean it. They are the Devil. " Well, maybe the Devil's gotten into the press. > > > > > > Anacat, myself, and others on this list have been trying to get > > help for this family for > > > weeks. They are having trouble getting a donation link/site up and > > running for Nate. I > > > have an attorney who contacted me today from COPAA (A California > > organization of > > > parents, advocates, and attorneys) interested in taking Nate's > > case, and no one has > > > contacted me. I have spoken to his mother who is pleading for help > > and the situation with > > > Nate's meds and I am doing all I can ( I have two kids that are > > injured). I have contacted all > > > of my representatives and their staff that I know, and found that > > they have to go through > > > " casework " , which apparently is not an option. > > > > > > This is a horrible situation, and I am a little disappointed with > > other CA orgs that I have > > > contacted and have not responded. > > > > > > King > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 I agree. It might have something to do with me hammering them with the Poling case, but I doubt it, as this preempted my request for them to cover the Tsegins. In both cases, I either got, " I am stacked up with work, I just don't have the time " , or " This is 100 miles out of our viewer demographic-my editors would never let me run the story " . > > > > > > > > Anacat, myself, and others on this list have been trying to get > > > help for this family for > > > > weeks. They are having trouble getting a donation link/site up > and > > > running for Nate. I > > > > have an attorney who contacted me today from COPAA (A > California > > > organization of > > > > parents, advocates, and attorneys) interested in taking Nate's > > > case, and no one has > > > > contacted me. I have spoken to his mother who is pleading for > help > > > and the situation with > > > > Nate's meds and I am doing all I can ( I have two kids that are > > > injured). I have contacted all > > > > of my representatives and their staff that I know, and found > that > > > they have to go through > > > > " casework " , which apparently is not an option. > > > > > > > > This is a horrible situation, and I am a little disappointed > with > > > other CA orgs that I have > > > > contacted and have not responded. > > > > > > > > King > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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