Re: Digest Number 693

February 16, 2000

Kathleen R. wrote:

<<<

I take a product called " Culturelle " obtainable through Vitamin Research

Products (vrp.com or 800-877-2447. It's the best I've tried. I believe it's

cultured from the guts of people who've never eaten dairy. I also save lots

of money by making my own sour milk (tastes like buttermilk) from it by

culturing it in milk, the way you make yogurt at home. This multiplies the

organisms exponentially. I use it three times a day>>

Kathleen,

what gave you the idea to try this. Would this be like taking probiotics in

yogurt? Could it be the process and not the product that is giving you good

results? Have you tried other methods or products in the past, and what

difference can you report?

Thanks,

Jane

February 17, 2000

I tried many different kinds of acidophilus, including Jarrodophilus, which has

a good rep., and including ones kept refrigerated in the store. None worked so

well as Culturelle. Before Culturelle

I had to take heaps of psyllium and rice bran to be regular. After a few months

on Culturelle capsules (not as yogurt) I went off to see if I still needed it. I

went for two months without it

before constipation set back in.

My husband had the yogurt-milk idea. I use 1% goat milk (slightly

allergic to cow's milk). There are yogurt-making kits. What I do is use a

heating pad set to a medium-low heat, but it has

to be one without a mechanism that turns the pad off to keep it rom

overheating). Otherwise, try an oven warmed to very low heat so it's just like

body heat inside. Then I fill one mason jar (per

quart) with scalding hot watter and put the flat lid on to keep it warm. Then I

heat up quickly, stirring, the milk to blood temperature (like for a baby's

bottle). I add one capsule Culturelle and

stir thoroughly (it might not all disperse, but that's okay). I dump out the

water from the mason jar and pour this in. I close the lid as tight as I can and

shake up and down a few times. Then I

roll it up in the heating pad and let sit overnight. Or put in a pan in the oven

overnight (Put up a big sign on the oven telling you it's being used!). The

longer it heats, the more bacteria it

grows. I've gone up to three days. If the milk isn't appreciably soured, the

temperature was probably either too hot or too low somewhere. In that case, just

mix more Culturelle into the warm milk

and put it back in the pad or the oven. That should do it.

Come to think of it, why not just let the milk heat up in the pad or

oven and THEN add the Culturelle and put it back in the pad or oven? That seems

simpler and you'd have only one

temperature variable to monitor if it doesn't come out right.

SlvrMoon2@... wrote:

> From: SlvrMoon2@...

>

> Kathleen R. wrote:

>

> <<<

> I take a product called " Culturelle " obtainable through Vitamin Research

> Products (vrp.com or 800-877-2447. It's the best I've tried. I believe it's

> cultured from the guts of people who've never eaten dairy. I also save lots

> of money by making my own sour milk (tastes like buttermilk) from it by

> culturing it in milk, the way you make yogurt at home. This multiplies the

> organisms exponentially. I use it three times a day>>

>

> Kathleen,

> what gave you the idea to try this. Would this be like taking probiotics in

> yogurt? Could it be the process and not the product that is giving you good

> results? Have you tried other methods or products in the past, and what

> difference can you report?

>

> Thanks,

> Jane

>

> ---------------------------

February 17, 2000

> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 11:06:10 PST

> From: " Scherffius " <cfids_ex@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: Soy

> >

> I'm going to have to do some serious research on this RBC clumping issue,

> since I get a large percentage of my protein from soy.

!!! Please post whatever you find on Soy. I also eat a lot of soy

and thought I was doing the right thing....(there is breast cancer in my

family and soy is supposed to be very good in warding that off...). But

I have low blood volume.....and probably thick blood as asprin does make

a difference for me...-Beth

September 29, 2000

>>> Is this the same product put out by

International Oxydation Laboratories in Newport,

Washington? If it is, then that is a good price.

I paid $33.95 plus 5.25 shipping through

Crossroads in Santa , CA. Patty <<<

Patty,

I am gonna answer yes to your question. Looking

at the can, it is a deep blue color and says:

Trademark Reg. 181507

The Original Oxygen-Therapy-Blass

HOMOZON

Near the bottom of the can it says:

Manufactured by:

International Oxydation Laboratories

P. O. Box 1950

Newport, WA 99156

Take care,

Niz

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October 30, 2000

Dear AJ.....my roomie......I miss you! I guess it seems I haven't been as

involved lately as I have been attending the University and remodeling my

home between those soccer games and football games. Matts football team is

undefeated ( as of now). I have been doing my normal AF work though..Facts is

I recently attended a dinner honoring Rosemary and Nick Clooney and get

this,,, Clooneys dad kissed me!!!!!!!!!LOL I will be attending another

huge event Nov.10 and speaking at the local FIRE & ICE BALL, this is a black

tie dinner and dance to raise funds for the AF and further research. Can ya

see it now...me in a formal gown. heeheee

October 30, 2000

In a message dated 10/30/00 10:38:41 AM Eastern Standard Time,

faces1999@... writes:

> Clooneys dad kissed me!!!!!!!!!

is he as cute as his son???

November 2, 2000

Yes! Do tell. Enquiring minds want to know I used to love watching

ER.

~Georgina

ajaomom@... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 10/30/00 10:38:41 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> faces1999@... writes:

>

> > Clooneys dad kissed me!!!!!!!!!

>

> is he as cute as his son???

November 2, 2000

Hi Donna,

I know you get so used to it all that you just take it for granted that

that's what you do ... but we are very proud of you! You are taking such

an active role in educating people about arthritis and helping so many

others through your active participation in these types of events and

organizations. I hope the Ball is a major success and that you have a

wonderful time there. You deserve it! Let us know how it goes, okay?

Take Care,

Georgina

faces1999@... wrote:

>

> Dear AJ.....my roomie......I miss you! I guess it seems I haven't been as

> involved lately as I have been attending the University and remodeling my

> home between those soccer games and football games. Matts football team is

> undefeated ( as of now). I have been doing my normal AF work though..Facts is

> I recently attended a dinner honoring Rosemary and Nick Clooney and get

> this,,, Clooneys dad kissed me!!!!!!!!!LOL I will be attending another

> huge event Nov.10 and speaking at the local FIRE & ICE BALL, this is a black

> tie dinner and dance to raise funds for the AF and further research. Can ya

> see it now...me in a formal gown. heeheee

December 1, 2000

In a message dated 11/30/00 7:52:31 PM Pacific Standard Time,

egroups writes:

<< I know that, with tinctures, you can boil water, put the dose in the

boiling

water then let cool and it should evaporate the alchohal. This is how we've

been giving my daughter her cilantro tincture and have had no problems. I

don't know if a homeopathic remedy would retain it's potency after this, but

a homeopath should know.

Marisol

Tali Wendrow wrote:

> All homeopathic medicines contain alcohol. That's how

> they're formulated. Call your doc and see if there is

> another brand that perhaps uses a gf grain (don't know

> of one, but it's worth a shot).

>

> Tali

> --- whcmccain@... wrote:

> > Hi all,

> > Just got the results of the second thyroid panel

> > done on my son. His T3's

> > are high. I assume this means his thyroid is

> > overactive. Our doctor has

> > recommended using a homeopathic thyroid medicine.

> > Problem is that I bought

> > the stuff yesterday and realized after I got it home

> > that it contains 20%

> > alcohol. Does anyone know if i can get this sans

> > alcohol? Approx. 30

> > minutes after his first dose, he was climbing the

> > walls--I assume from the

> > grain used to make the alcohol. He has been GFCF

> > for 3 months now. Anyone

> > else have kids with thyroid problems? If so, what

> > did you do about it?

> > Thanks,

> >

> > >>

,

My daughter has hypothyroidism, we're doing homeopathy and she can't have

gluten. The remedies from our homeopath do contain grain alcohol. I've gotten

around this by putting one drop of the remedy in a small bottle of distilled

water. If I can find them, I get medicine bottles with droppers from a

pharmacy and put the distilled water right into one of these. In a pinch,

I've used llittle Poland Springs water bottles. Since we're not using

alcohol, I make sure to keep adding more distilled water to the mix, just to

keep germs at bay. My homeopath tells me to never throw away the treatment

bottle - just keep adding water. This method seems to work OK, at least for

us.

Hope this helps.

February 23, 2001

Has anyone heard of or successfully used the Super Detox program by

Physicians Choice? In particular, I was wondering if the yeast/parasite

cleanser would be effective. The ingredients are artemesia annua extract

(whatever this is?), grapefruit seed extract, and caprylic acid. A family

member is HIV positive and would like to use an alternative approach to

restore his health. He heard this product advertised, and asked me if I

knew anything about it. Any comments or suggestions would be

appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Bianca

February 23, 2001

I know that artemisia is wormwood. A parasite eliminator that also

stimulates the liver and gallbladder.

Terri

> Has anyone heard of or successfully used the Super Detox program by

> Physicians Choice? In particular, I was wondering if the

yeast/parasite

> cleanser would be effective. The ingredients are artemesia annua

extract

> (whatever this is?), grapefruit seed extract, and caprylic acid. A

family

> member is HIV positive and would like to use an alternative

approach to

> restore his health. He heard this product advertised, and asked me

if I

> knew anything about it. Any comments or suggestions would be

> appreciated. Thanks in advance.

>

> Bianca

February 25, 2001

Lordell Rush Can you tell me where to find ia? I have searched for

it with four search engines and cannot find it . Does not seem to lbe

listed on Dr. 's web page either.

Ed Hale Rock Island, Il

February 25, 2001

Ed, the reason you cannot find it on Dr s list is because it is not from

there. It is a different manufacturer but here is the site for ia

http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/parasites/clarkia.html

And here is Dr s website:

www..net

Christel

September 19, 2001

In a message dated 9/19/2001 8:01:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

writes:

> Then I notice she's

> pregnant. She says " We suspect my baby has DS " . I got chills. Why in the

> world had Nic picked this particular house to stop at? She asked allot of

> questions and I felt good being able to help her out.

> I think we were sent there for a reason....

>

Wow !!! I love it when the Lord intervene's...... and we are able to

bless another person. Imagine how she felt !!!!! gives me chicken skin !!

: ))

In His Love and Joy,

Joanne

Mom to 11 ............2 with ds

September 19, 2001

In a message dated 9/19/2001 8:01:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

writes:

> Then I notice she's

> pregnant. She says " We suspect my baby has DS " . I got chills. Why in the

> world had Nic picked this particular house to stop at? She asked allot of

> questions and I felt good being able to help her out.

> I think we were sent there for a reason....

>

Wow !!! I love it when the Lord intervene's...... and we are able to

bless another person. Imagine how she felt !!!!! gives me chicken skin !!

: ))

In His Love and Joy,

Joanne

Mom to 11 ............2 with ds

September 19, 2001

In a message dated 9/19/01 8:00:36 AM, writes:

<< Also, more has to be done about the US " open door " policy. I know that

many will disagree with me but times have changed so much that we need to

heavily restrict those wishing to enter our great country. These terrorists

got their

education and training here and to me that is the most sickening thing I

can imagine.

>>

ok, I've got to vent a bit here ;-) Yes, obviously we have to do something

about terrorists coming into our country so easily, but what I'm having

trouble with is, we have spent soooo much time and energy keeping people from

Mexico and other Central American countries out, not because they are a

terrorist threat, but because they are poor. My brother in law is from

Honduras, after my sister and he were married in Honduras, it took nearly two

years for them to be able to come to the US. She was 6 months pregnant by

the time they came. The INS was HORRIBLE to work with, they had to travel a

whole day by bus just to get to the office in Honduras, and once there, they

were soooo unhelpful... " I'm sorry, come back tomorrow " and the papers are

over there " ..THey would do what they asked, come back..and then they would

say they needed something else. My brother in laws mother can't even get a 2

week visa to come and see her new grandson :-( All this because my brother in

law was any kind of threat? No, because his family was poor, and they don't

want poor people here, why have we been more concerned about poor people

coming here then terrorists....

Thanks..I feel better now ;-)

M.

September 19, 2001