Re: Question for ANDY CUTLER

[Guest guest]

Some of the Iraq victims were chelated, but not in any way that would

remove mercury from the brain. There are a few literature reports on

this.

The minamata victims were not chelated to the best of my konwledge,

but there is an enormous amount of literature on them.

The only way to make the MD's responsive is to eliminate the licensure

laws that let them have an income (by being free from competent

competition) without providing the appropriate services.

Andy Cutler

> It's great that you're back, Andy.

>

> I've always wondered if there have been followup studies on the

children who were harmed by mercury in Japan " Minamata disease " or in

Iraq

> (from grain given them by the USA)? Were any of these children

treated with DMSA or any chelator?

> I want to know more about outcomes of children who received

treatment....(in order to be better informed regarding my own 10yrs

old son's chelation)

> Also, if there are research organizations in the USA who have

" donated autistic brains " - how can we recommend that they be tested

for Mercury toxicity?

> Wouldn't this be a very good way to see problems from Thimerosal???

at least in some of the specimins that might be less than 10 years?

> This denial of mercury toxicity that doctors seem to expouse has got

to stop. Doctors should be ashamed that it was parents and educators

who kept blowing the whistle about an autism explosion - and not them.

They had better not fail us now.

> Aly

[Guest guest]

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I had the same frustration. Our urine was sent to North Carolina, too and only a few metals were tested for and supposedly NONE were outside normal limits. So even though we've been chelating for months and even though my daughter is improving, Nothing significant is coming out? Makes No sense whatsoever. I'm using Great Smokies next time - it'll be worth the $. This last one was a collosal waste of time!

hrumph,

[ ] Question for ANDY CUTLER

I need direction. Kaiser Permanente blew the

24 hour Heavy Metal Urine Screen. Today, I got the results: Regarding Arsenic and Mercury:

Test results said: "Quantity not sufficient. Test not

performed."

Urine Lead: "No Total Volume Recorded. Urine Lead Result is 8.0 mcg/L - Ref. Range <100 mcg/24hr.

I personally saw that my son almost filled the large collection bottle. I saw the volume at 1975. The lab report was also consistent with this number - Yet why would they be unable to test for Mercury and Arsenic??? Do other kids give them more volume in 24 hours?? On this test, does Doctors

Data, Inc. ONLY check Arsenic, Mercury and Lead??? Aren't other metals checked at DDI??

Kaiser used some lab in North Carolina (American Labs. I think).. My son has been chelating for 11 weeks - 11 cycles of DMSA and ALA. He is 10 years old. I asked the Head of the Kaiser Lab. (in a letter - because he wasn't there) to PLEASE repeat this test using Doctor's Data, Inc. and also see if they can give our son a Fecal

toxic panel, also. Am I correct in this? I can't see another 24 hour test to be wasted on an inept lab -

Aly

[Guest guest]

I was told the DDI test cost $110 on the phone. Did they give me the prepay

price or the price they would normally charge? $55 is HALF that and would

make all the difference in the world as to which lab I'm going to use!

Thanks for any and all replies!

[Guest guest]

and ,

The mainstream labs have reference ranges that are designed to find high level

acute

toxicity from recent exposure. DDI's reference range for lead is 0-20 mcg per

24

hours and 0-15 per gram of creatinine. Since your son's volume was 1975 ml

(1.975 L)

his lead per 24 hours was 15.8 mcg. Dr. Amy thinks that the amount per gram of

creatinine is a better measure for kids though. The last DDI test cost $55 (it

costs

a lot more if you don't pre-pay) , it might be worth it to have urine tests run

by

DDI next time. Doctor's Data tests for aluminum, antimony, arsenic, beryllium,

bismuth, cadmium, lead, mercury, nickel, platinium, thallium, thorium, tin,

tungsten,

and uranium.

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much, . I am going to approach my doctor with the forms

to sign (if possible) and pay for these tests, myself. Just don't want to

put my son through 24 hours of going to the bathroom with mom or dad with no

end result....Appreciate the help!

Aly

Re: [ ] Question for ANDY CUTLER

> and ,

>

> The mainstream labs have reference ranges that are designed to find high

level acute

> toxicity from recent exposure. DDI's reference range for lead is 0-20 mcg

per 24

> hours and 0-15 per gram of creatinine. Since your son's volume was 1975

ml (1.975 L)

> his lead per 24 hours was 15.8 mcg. Dr. Amy thinks that the amount per

gram of

> creatinine is a better measure for kids though. The last DDI test cost

$55 (it costs

> a lot more if you don't pre-pay) , it might be worth it to have urine

tests run by

> DDI next time. Doctor's Data tests for aluminum, antimony, arsenic,

beryllium,

> bismuth, cadmium, lead, mercury, nickel, platinium, thallium, thorium,

tin, tungsten,

> and uranium.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I haven't run the test in a while, but the pre-pay price was $55 the last time

we did

test my son's urine. Maybe someone who has used Doctor's Data more recently

could

comment.

fullarmor@... wrote:

> I was told the DDI test cost $110 on the phone. Did they give me the prepay

> price or the price they would normally charge? $55 is HALF that and would

> make all the difference in the world as to which lab I'm going to use!

> Thanks for any and all replies!

[Guest guest]

,

We ran our tests in mid-December with Doctor's Data. The cost

was $55.00.

a

>

> > I was told the DDI test cost $110 on the phone. Did they give me

the prepay

> > price or the price they would normally charge? $55 is HALF that

and would

> > make all the difference in the world as to which lab I'm going to

use!

> > Thanks for any and all replies!

[Guest guest]

There are a lot of different tests. Urine toxics, urine toxics and

essentials, urine mercury, hair elements, etc. Which one costs what?

Anyone got the info sheet?

Andy

> I was told the DDI test cost $110 on the phone. Did they give me

the prepay

> price or the price they would normally charge? $55 is HALF that and

would

> make all the difference in the world as to which lab I'm going to

use!

> Thanks for any and all replies!

>