Guest guest Posted July 22, 2002 Report Share Posted July 22, 2002 Gail - about your friend at church - she's me ;-) Only I don't have much to show for it. I also quit my job a year ago this month to stay home and take care of business with her school but there *is* no taking care of business w them. I wouldn't even want my nda son attending school in this district so I don't really know why I thought a quality spec. ed program would work here. I'm just sooooo disheartened and my energy is depleated in working with them. It isn't right that I cannot work because I have to constantly watch them. A really, really bad thing for our family and it def. does cause family stress. Ok enough negative energy, yes!!!?? LOL I still don't know what'd going to happen for this next school yr. Technically it begins ----- tomorrow (ta da da da!) so I guess that until I get the info I need, Gabby will be ABSENT. Do you know of where you can find an avocate in your area? Where do you live, btw? Sandy mom to Gabby (6, ds-asd) and Adam (2) rickvargas1@... Sandy-education Sandy, Thanks for the support! I am coming from the same area you are! I know what doesn't work with Seth. I know what does work with Seth. They just have their agenda to follow, whether it works or not. I have asked for a whole year that Seth NOT be in the Knil program. They won't take him out of it. Hey, 20 minutes wasted every day is a lot! He's done it for 3 years, with no progress what so ever. I even said, okay, he can stay in it if you modify it to work for him. They won't even bend that far! What do you do? They are soooooo rigid in their teaching. There is no I in Seth's IEP. I agree with you Sandy. I can't subject my family to this stress anymore either. I talked with a Mom yesterday at our parish picnic. Her son is a very high functioning ds child, the same age as Seth. She quit her job at the bank to spend all her time fighting for what he needs. She has him in reg ed, full time. She has done a WONDERFUL job getting him everything he needs for a good education. BUT........... it shows on her and her family too. I can't go where she is. I won't go where she is. I won't sacrifice my family and peace in my home. That's great you had such a good advocate last year Sandy. Wish I had one. I'd fight the fight if I had lots of help, maybe. What are you doing for school for Gabby this year? Gail :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 In a message dated 7/22/02 3:03:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, rickvargas1@... writes: << I still don't know what'd going to happen for this next school yr. Technically it begins ----- tomorrow (ta da da da!) so I guess that until I get the info I need, Gabby will be ABSENT. Do you know of where you can find an avocate in your area? Where do you live, btw? Sandy mom to Gabby (6, ds-asd) and Adam (2) rickvargas1@... >> Hi Sandy, School starts today for Gabby? Wow, guess I don't have to feel so rushed now, do I? LOL I think I'm going to end up in the same situation. And ya know what? It doesn't even bother me! LOL I figure the district is dragging their feet on this, so why should I let that upset me? No, I don't know of any advocates here. The district provides a parent rep (sometimes) at the meeting, but they really just support the district. We live in Elmira, NY. Where do you live? Keep posting about what's going on with Gabby. You're one step ahead of me and I like having you to follow! LOL Gail :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 Hi Sandy, I can relate to your dilemna. I have the same situation with Zeb. I quit my job 2 yrs. ago to monitor his program. I have been in a constant battle with the school system ever since. It is always something and I see no end in sight. I just filed another state complaint. I am really leaning on homeschooling this year myself but have mixed feelings. I am just not sure what to do. The psychologist and neurologist have both advised me not to. I want to reclaim my life but am I doing Zeb a disservice in doing so. That is the main question that I cannot answer. I have no doubt that if Zeb goes to school this year I will be in due process. Would I win, yes, but at what cost, financially and emotionally. Would he greatly benefit? I doubt it. The school would probably be fine and comply until the next year and it just goes on. I am also even with the pro and con. Our school year doesn't begin until after Labor day so I still have time but.... I also do advocate work for a state parent group and have been very successful for everyone else but for Zeb. I face the same low expectations in my district. All children with intellectual disabilities get little to nothing here in the way of an education. All but my child are in isolated placements with IEP's that contain very little as far as education. I do hold the district accountable and they will do anything to get rid of me. Charlyne Mom to Zeb 9 DS/OCD ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2002 Report Share Posted July 25, 2002 Gail - Yeah, don't feel rushed!!! See, just follow me and I will get both of us lost enough that no one will FIND us and they will have to put a bounty on our heads!!! LOL And hey, I wouldn't trust the parent rep either. I wish there was some way you could find one in your area! The way I found mine last year was through a spec ed. e-mail list like this one (I swear, I really don't live my life through a computer!). She was part of a lawsuit filed against a neighboring district and she mentioned it once during a discussion. I kept her name/e-mail on hand just in case the day ever came. She really took me under her wing and I was grateful for that. I think she fell in love with Gabby.... Gabby tends to have that effect on people. Yeah, at the store the other day (Rite Aid for those of you who have them... used to be Thrifty here - famous for their wonderful ice cream) and Gabby used her Dynamo to tell me she had to go potty. I asked where the bathrooms were and was told by a cashier that they didn't have one for use of customers anymore! LOL I was like... grrrreeeat. A couple mins later as we moved through this cashier's line, she asks me.... " OH were you asking about the bathroom for HER (pointing to Gabby)? " Why yes. " OHHHH... I'll let her use the bathroom... " begins stumbling for keys. I looked at hubby like, huh? I swear, this happens a lot. So if it were just my bladder in need, I would'vehad to wait it... but since it miss Gabs.... heh..... Okay I know I had a point here. I'm sorry... I talk WAY too much here sometimes. Oh yes, our advocate was found that way and darn it... I really wish I had more connections to NY for you..... I am in San Diego, CA Sandy mom to Gabby (6, ds-asd) and Adam (2) rickvargas1@... Re: Sandy-education In a message dated 7/22/02 3:03:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, rickvargas1@... writes: << I still don't know what'd going to happen for this next school yr. Technically it begins ----- tomorrow (ta da da da!) so I guess that until I get the info I need, Gabby will be ABSENT. Do you know of where you can find an avocate in your area? Where do you live, btw? Sandy mom to Gabby (6, ds-asd) and Adam (2) rickvargas1@... >> Hi Sandy, School starts today for Gabby? Wow, guess I don't have to feel so rushed now, do I? LOL I think I'm going to end up in the same situation. And ya know what? It doesn't even bother me! LOL I figure the district is dragging their feet on this, so why should I let that upset me? No, I don't know of any advocates here. The district provides a parent rep (sometimes) at the meeting, but they really just support the district. We live in Elmira, NY. Where do you live? Keep posting about what's going on with Gabby. You're one step ahead of me and I like having you to follow! LOL Gail :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2002 Report Share Posted July 25, 2002 Charlyne - First of all ((((hugs)))) because I swear these districts are driving us to early graves! I know what you mean about being effective for others and not being able to accomplish anything for ourselves. I have helped some friends with their kid's issues and given advice. They've been able to take this back to their district and gotten what they needed. I even attended some meetings regarding my middle school aged cousin who is LD and done o.k. But my district is hell bent on being difficult with me. Every time I mention my school district to folks (lawyers, advocates, private schools, even presenters at workshops LOL) around here it is always, always met with a roll of their eyes or deep sigh so I know it's not just me. Because y'know... sometimes I do wonder. They can be pretty convincing when they want to be... very good at the mind control thing. I really think that the thing we - you, Gail, me and I know there's someone else out there - need to focus on now is our child and not getting these schools to do the impossible or improbable. It bothers me to a huge degree that they would be getting rid of me if I take Gabby out of public ed. but it bothers me more to know that they would rather see her veg than see real success come to her. And besides, they have build their own monsters, I feel. You advocate because you have a lot of experience doing so - due to necessity. YOU are an awesome advocate. I know that I won't ever stop wanting to help those in my community - esp. those with special needs. But there are ways, I think, to do that without sacrificing the educational factor for Gabby. I don't know. I just don't know Charlyne. I wish I had some answers too. Just out of curiousity though, why have the neuro and psych told you not to homeschool Zeb? Sandy mom to Gabby (6, ds-asd) and Adam (2) rickvargas1@... Re: Sandy-education Hi Sandy, I can relate to your dilemna. I have the same situation with Zeb. I quit my job 2 yrs. ago to monitor his program. I have been in a constant battle with the school system ever since. It is always something and I see no end in sight. I just filed another state complaint. I am really leaning on homeschooling this year myself but have mixed feelings. I am just not sure what to do. The psychologist and neurologist have both advised me not to. I want to reclaim my life but am I doing Zeb a disservice in doing so. That is the main question that I cannot answer. I have no doubt that if Zeb goes to school this year I will be in due process. Would I win, yes, but at what cost, financially and emotionally. Would he greatly benefit? I doubt it. The school would probably be fine and comply until the next year and it just goes on. I am also even with the pro and con. Our school year doesn't begin until after Labor day so I still have time but.... I also do advocate work for a state parent group and have been very successful for everyone else but for Zeb. I face the same low expectations in my district. All children with intellectual disabilities get little to nothing here in the way of an education. All but my child are in isolated placements with IEP's that contain very little as far as education. I do hold the district accountable and they will do anything to get rid of me. Charlyne Mom to Zeb 9 DS/OCD ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 In a message dated 7/25/02 2:25:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rickvargas1@... writes: > " OH were you asking about the bathroom for HER (pointing to Gabby)? " Why > yes. " OHHHH... I'll let her use the bathroom... " begins stumbling for keys. > I looked at hubby like, huh? I swear, this happens a lot. So if it were > just my bladder in need, I would'vehad to wait it... but since it miss > Gabs.... LOLOLOL Sandy, methinks you should use that for YOUR emergencies!!!!! I'm sure Gabby won't mind....LOL Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 In a message dated 7/25/02 2:25:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rickvargas1@... writes: > " OH were you asking about the bathroom for HER (pointing to Gabby)? " Why > yes. " OHHHH... I'll let her use the bathroom... " begins stumbling for keys. > I looked at hubby like, huh? I swear, this happens a lot. So if it were > just my bladder in need, I would'vehad to wait it... but since it miss > Gabs.... LOLOLOL Sandy, methinks you should use that for YOUR emergencies!!!!! I'm sure Gabby won't mind....LOL Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2002 Report Share Posted July 30, 2002 In a message dated 7/25/2002 2:36:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rickvargas1@... writes: > I don't know. I just don't know Charlyne. I wish I had some answers too. > Just out of curiousity though, why have the neuro and psych told you not to > homeschool Zeb? Hi Sandy, I am trying to get caught up on the posts but almost missed yours. The neuro and psych feel that Zeb has been in an inclusive program since he started school and I would be doing him a disservice. Zeb's social skills are his strength and they attribute that to being with his typical peers. They feel keeping him home would be so restrictive that he would certainly loose the skills in that area. They both suggested that I keep fighting the district. Your district sounds like mine. It's a hard decision and have no idea what I am going to do. The attorney was filing a state complaint last week but I haven't recieved the copy in the mail yet so I have no clue as to what is going on right now. Charlyne Mom to Zeb 9 DS/OCD ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2002 Report Share Posted July 30, 2002 In a message dated 7/25/2002 2:36:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rickvargas1@... writes: > I don't know. I just don't know Charlyne. I wish I had some answers too. > Just out of curiousity though, why have the neuro and psych told you not to > homeschool Zeb? Hi Sandy, I am trying to get caught up on the posts but almost missed yours. The neuro and psych feel that Zeb has been in an inclusive program since he started school and I would be doing him a disservice. Zeb's social skills are his strength and they attribute that to being with his typical peers. They feel keeping him home would be so restrictive that he would certainly loose the skills in that area. They both suggested that I keep fighting the district. Your district sounds like mine. It's a hard decision and have no idea what I am going to do. The attorney was filing a state complaint last week but I haven't recieved the copy in the mail yet so I have no clue as to what is going on right now. Charlyne Mom to Zeb 9 DS/OCD ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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