Re: Help me show how ND supports drugging, vaccinations

[Guest guest]

All neurodiverse nitwits try to stand in the way of activism for

vaccine accountability. They aren't all in favor drugs though since

they like to celebrate the brain damage they were born with. You can

find over 15,000 of these people at Wrong Planet.net and many of the

bloggers can be found at the Autism Hub (of insanity). They don't like

the NYU ads because the ads paint them as broken instead of celebrating

the joy of autism.

>

> I'm trying to put together an email/article showing the ways in which

> certain ND groups do NOT stand against the drugging campaign against

> children and stand in the way of activism for vaccine accountability.

>

> Which ND groups are friendly with Autism Speaks? Who argues that

> vaccine-injury parents are " paranoid " about pharmaceutical agendas,

> vaccines and psychotropes? Who argues that vaccines are safe and

> effective? Which groups/bloggers argue that drugging autistic people

> and children is a good idea and does no harm?

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the links! I'm trying to write a balanced piece. I know

why some well-meaning but otherwise uninformed people initially

sympathize with NDs self-described fight for respect and equal

treatment. Most people don't know that many ND groups are attempting

to block information on treatments and preventative measures parents

use to avoid the condition altogether.

I knew that the objections to the ransom ads had little or nothing

to do with Koplewicz's checkered, COI-ridden history or even the

involvement with AS or drug promotion for infants. If anyone runs

accross discussions of the ransom campaign in which bloggers say

otherwise nice things about the agenda of the NYU center, it would

be helpful (as in, Well, they shouldn't target our wonderful

condition but boy, those bipolar and depressed kids should be

drugged to Kingdom Come, etc.)

> >

> > I'm trying to put together an email/article showing the ways in

which

> > certain ND groups do NOT stand against the drugging campaign

against

> > children and stand in the way of activism for vaccine

accountability.

> >

> > Which ND groups are friendly with Autism Speaks? Who argues that

> > vaccine-injury parents are " paranoid " about pharmaceutical

agendas,

> > vaccines and psychotropes? Who argues that vaccines are safe and

> > effective? Which groups/bloggers argue that drugging autistic

people

> > and children is a good idea and does no harm?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Like the " joy of head trauma " or the " joy of poisoning? "

I cannot imagine somebody with Multiple Sclerosis (for instance... a disease

with similar

causes, but different pathologies at a non-developmental stage of life)

identifying their

very self with their disease.

Until we can get everyone to see that autism is a disease process affecting

development...

the neurodiverse just won't get it.

>

> All neurodiverse nitwits try to stand in the way of activism for

> vaccine accountability. They aren't all in favor drugs though since

> they like to celebrate the brain damage they were born with. You can

> find over 15,000 of these people at Wrong Planet.net and many of the

> bloggers can be found at the Autism Hub (of insanity). They don't like

> the NYU ads because the ads paint them as broken instead of celebrating

> the joy of autism.

>

[Guest guest]

google " NYU Child Study Center " and you will see numerous blog

reactions.

> > >

> > > I'm trying to put together an email/article showing the ways in

> which

> > > certain ND groups do NOT stand against the drugging campaign

> against

> > > children and stand in the way of activism for vaccine

> accountability.

> > >

> > > Which ND groups are friendly with Autism Speaks? Who argues

that

> > > vaccine-injury parents are " paranoid " about pharmaceutical

> agendas,

> > > vaccines and psychotropes? Who argues that vaccines are safe

and

> > > effective? Which groups/bloggers argue that drugging autistic

> people

> > > and children is a good idea and does no harm?

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I think it's like those who are deaf. There is an entire community of

deaf people who feel they are perfect and to try and restore hearing

is offensive to them. I cannot relate, but also respect their joy of

living. I also am happy for those who are happy having autism;

obviously few adults recover, they should be proud of who they are.

But the ND crowd goes far beyond celebrating who they are; they try to

put down any chance of helping these kids not be sick, miserable, etc.

There's a big difference between being proud of being a geek and being

proud of being 30 yrs old and defecating on one's self multiple times

a day without any ability to keep clean.

Debi

>

> Like the " joy of head trauma " or the " joy of poisoning? "

>

> I cannot imagine somebody with Multiple Sclerosis (for instance... a

disease with similar

> causes, but different pathologies at a non-developmental stage of

life) identifying their

> very self with their disease.

>

> Until we can get everyone to see that autism is a disease process

affecting development...

> the neurodiverse just won't get it.

>

[Guest guest]

I think it's like those who are deaf. There is an entire community of

deaf people who feel they are perfect and to try and restore hearing

is offensive to them. I cannot relate, but also respect their joy of

living. I also am happy for those who are happy having autism;

obviously few adults recover, they should be proud of who they are.

But the ND crowd goes far beyond celebrating who they are; they try to

put down any chance of helping these kids not be sick, miserable, etc.

There's a big difference between being proud of being a geek and being

proud of being 30 yrs old and defecating on one's self multiple times

a day without any ability to keep clean.

Debi

>

> Like the " joy of head trauma " or the " joy of poisoning? "

>

> I cannot imagine somebody with Multiple Sclerosis (for instance... a

disease with similar

> causes, but different pathologies at a non-developmental stage of

life) identifying their

> very self with their disease.

>

> Until we can get everyone to see that autism is a disease process

affecting development...

> the neurodiverse just won't get it.

>

[Guest guest]

Debi, There aren't really any people who are happy about having

autism. That's just the lie that Neuroinsanity wants you to believe.

> >

> > Like the " joy of head trauma " or the " joy of poisoning? "

> >

> > I cannot imagine somebody with Multiple Sclerosis (for

instance... a

> disease with similar

> > causes, but different pathologies at a non-developmental stage of

> life) identifying their

> > very self with their disease.

> >

> > Until we can get everyone to see that autism is a disease process

> affecting development...

> > the neurodiverse just won't get it.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Debi, There aren't really any people who are happy about having

autism. That's just the lie that Neuroinsanity wants you to believe.

> >

> > Like the " joy of head trauma " or the " joy of poisoning? "

> >

> > I cannot imagine somebody with Multiple Sclerosis (for

instance... a

> disease with similar

> > causes, but different pathologies at a non-developmental stage of

> life) identifying their

> > very self with their disease.

> >

> > Until we can get everyone to see that autism is a disease process

> affecting development...

> > the neurodiverse just won't get it.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Actually , I know a couple here locally. One is nonverbal but will

let you have it via computer. But, she also has autism! I mean, she

doesn't seem to have any problem with the burden she places by

requiring 24hr caregiving and stinks to high heaven because she uses

diapers to defecate in. But she types how wonderful she feels about

having autism. The other is high functioning. I mean, if you have what

you have I think you should be happy with yourself, but the ND crowd

are nuts.

Debi

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> Debi, There aren't really any people who are happy about having

> autism. That's just the lie that Neuroinsanity wants you to believe.

>

>

[Guest guest]

This is what I think: I think their parents, not knowing what we all

know now, told them when they were young that they were precious and

God made them that way. So, what are they to do now that we all know

they were actually poisoned? I think they should do SOMETHING but I

don't know what that is.

Ido believe it's just another facet of the cruelty imparted on

children and their families, IMO.

, FA ~

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> > Debi, There aren't really any people who are happy about having

> > autism. That's just the lie that Neuroinsanity wants you to

believe.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I think we should hook Autism Diva up to a Judge Rottenberg zapper

and keep zapping her until she agrees that curing autism is a good

idea. Then the rest will start to see reason.

> > >

> > > Debi, There aren't really any people who are happy about

having

> > > autism. That's just the lie that Neuroinsanity wants you to

> believe.

> > >

> > >

> >

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