Guest guest Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 In a message dated 12/14/2007 11:33:35 PM Central Standard Time, fightingautism@... writes: The worst part of the movie was a preview section/commerical with a bunch of Hollywood celebs about how wonderful St. Jude Hospital is, after St. Jude fought tooth & nail to block TN's legislation to limit thimerosal in vaccines What interest does St. Jude have in blocking this legislation? Anyone know?**************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 A vax turns people into zombies? So it's non-fiction? You have to wonder if certain stars are expressing views through choice of material. Maybe I'm totally wrong, but when I saw 's son in " Pursuit of Happyness " , I thought, now there's a kid who probably wasn't vaccinated in infancy. That's what our son should have been like. > > We went to see the movie tonight. Don't know if you all are familiar > with the plot, a doctor develops a mutated measles virus that ends up > being a cure for cancer. However, it has an unwanted side effect of > making people turn into freaks that eat other people and everyone > either dies or turns into these monsters. I'll leave the rest of it at > that, but found it to be pretty interesting plot. > > The worst part of the movie was a preview section/commerical with a > bunch of Hollywood celebs about how wonderful St. Jude Hospital is, > after St. Jude fought tooth & nail to block TN's legislation to limit > thimerosal in vaccines. I hope McCarthy can share with > Anniston, Marlo , and all the others what a piece of crap St. > Jude is when it comes to preserving increasing autism rates. Found it > pretty ironic they were in the same showing as this movie. > > At any rate, thought you all might enjoy the movie. It was DEFINITELY > a thriller and, as usual, Will wasn't too hard on the eyes, > either. he delivered another fantastic performance. > > Deb > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 Actually, St Jude IS wonderful. My cousin's 5 year old son is being treated for cancer there at no cost to his parents who cannot afford it otherwise. My son is vaccine damaged but I don't begrudge them getting help at that institution. Sometimes you have to take the good with the bad. I am thankful for St. Jude no matter what their policies are on vaccines. Vicki > > We went to see the movie tonight. Don't know if you all are familiar > with the plot, a doctor develops a mutated measles virus that ends up > being a cure for cancer. However, it has an unwanted side effect of > making people turn into freaks that eat other people and everyone > either dies or turns into these monsters. I'll leave the rest of it at > that, but found it to be pretty interesting plot. > > The worst part of the movie was a preview section/commerical with a > bunch of Hollywood celebs about how wonderful St. Jude Hospital is, > after St. Jude fought tooth & nail to block TN's legislation to limit > thimerosal in vaccines. I hope McCarthy can share with > Anniston, Marlo , and all the others what a piece of crap St. > Jude is when it comes to preserving increasing autism rates. Found it > pretty ironic they were in the same showing as this movie. > > At any rate, thought you all might enjoy the movie. It was DEFINITELY > a thriller and, as usual, Will wasn't too hard on the eyes, > either. he delivered another fantastic performance. > > Deb > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 I've been told they were doing research with thimerosal as a treatment for cancer, along with researching cancer vaccines. That said, I have no citation or reference to back it up, so it may just be rumor. I think this was 2005-2006, I can't remember exactly, but I still have the memos passed back & forth between our speak of house, who's on the St. Jude board and married to the biggest lobbyist in Nashville. naifeh's office said St. Jude contacted them, St. Jude says naifeh's office contacted them. Debi > > In a message dated 12/14/2007 11:33:35 PM Central Standard Time, > fightingautism@... writes: > > What interest does St. Jude have in blocking this legislation? Anyone know? > > > > ************************************** > See AOL's top rated recipes > (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 I'm not against St. Jude treating kids for cancer, I think it's wondeful. But I cannot express how I feel watching their feel-good ads while knowing the lengths they went to to block legislation that could have spared thousands from this autism thing. Regardless of the good work they do in cancer, it does not dismiss their responsibility of furthering poisoning of children. For me it's the same thing as the mantra about how vaccines save lives, therefore those who are vaccine injured are expendable. Even worse in some ways, because they had no need what so ever to get involved in the thimerosal legislation, they ACTIVELY fought against it. If I save one kid while harming another, does that make me a good person? Debi > > Actually, St Jude IS wonderful. My cousin's 5 year old son is being > treated for cancer there at no cost to his parents who cannot afford > it otherwise. My son is vaccine damaged but I don't begrudge them > getting help at that institution. Sometimes you have to take the good > with the bad. I am thankful for St. Jude no matter what their > policies are on vaccines. Vicki > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 And, by the way, I don't begrudge them at all for helping kids. I begrudge them for using their reputation of helping kids to harm others. Since they blocked the legislation, are they now going to treat every child who has mercury poisoning in the state of TN at no cost from date of dropping the bill to current? I think not. > > > > Actually, St Jude IS wonderful. My cousin's 5 year old son is being > > treated for cancer there at no cost to his parents who cannot afford > > it otherwise. My son is vaccine damaged but I don't begrudge them > > getting help at that institution. Sometimes you have to take the good > > with the bad. I am thankful for St. Jude no matter what their > > policies are on vaccines. Vicki > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 Um, hello St. Jude, Marlo , et all, thanks for all you do BUT Thimerosal CAUSES certain types of cancer!!!!!!!! Not to mention autism, alzheimer's, genetic mutations, etc........ Lord have mercy. , FA ~ http://www.hotboards.com/plus/plus.mirage?who=autism > > > > In a message dated 12/14/2007 11:33:35 PM Central Standard Time, > > fightingautism@ writes: > > > > > What interest does St. Jude have in blocking this legislation? > Anyone know? > > > > > > > > ************************************** > > See AOL's top rated recipes > > (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2007 Report Share Posted December 16, 2007 I think the bottom line is this. If St. Jude had enough pressure put on them, they'd do a 180 regarding TN's failed legislation. I think they did it for 2 reasons. 1, naifeh's wife (naifeh is TN's speaker of house) got the command from his wife to block the legislation because she's a paid lobbyist for some of the drug mfg & naifeh figured he'd get the respected St. Jude (no one would ever dare argue against a place helping little sick children with cancer) to publicly go against it and then naifeh gets his pockets lined, OR St. Jude has vested interest in keeping the thimerosal in as many vaccines as possible, or a little bit of both. Don't you think if enough people, esp Hollywood, came out & blasted st. Jude for its behavior, they'd turn around? I definitely think that those in hollywood supporting this hospital should know what st jude has done. Like I said, I think it's great what St. Jude is doing with the cancer stuff, God knows if my child got cancer I'd be glad for them to help. But, I DO have a child with autism who gets LITTLE/NO help, just like thousands others in this state, and the thousands who have contracted autism since the legislation failed. We aren't CA; in our state early intervention is 1 hr/wk, we have NO ABA therapists in East TN, no DAN, etc. So St jude pushed to keep injuring children and giving absolutely no help. It's just not right to hide behind their helping little cancer-stricken children mantra to continue to poison an entire other segment. It should go completely against what they stand for, but obviously their actions speak regarding who they really are. It's the very same tactic pro vaccine people do to make us look like child-abusing nut jobs for trying to keep our kids safe. Debi > > I would not be at all surprised to find that many of the cancers which are occurring today, were caused by vaccines injected in the past. That is likely a " given " , since most (perhaps even all) vaccines have not been tested for the potential to cause carcinogenicity. It is interesting that almost all vaccine manufacturers attach this brief note in their product information/product insert section. Does this mean they will get away with whatever damages were caused? They likely will, thanks to riders which absolved them of any responsibility for damages caused by vaccines, which they developed and/or promoted, but WERE NOT EVALUATED FOR THEIR POTENTIAL TO CAUSE CARCINOGENICITY, and GENOTOXICITY. Why are people allowing vaccines that have not been tested/evaluated for their potential to cause CARCINOGENICITY and GENOTOXICITY to be injected into their children or even themselves? They must either be a bunch of idiots, or they know nothing about this. I would think the latter is > true. Do your homework, friends, before the powers that be (and want to continue being so...) get the best of you! > > Aasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2007 Report Share Posted December 16, 2007 Vets have noted cancers in dogs at injection sites.. > > > > Actually, St Jude IS wonderful. My cousin's 5 year old son is being > > treated for cancer there at no cost to his parents who cannot afford > > it otherwise. My son is vaccine damaged but I don't begrudge them > > getting help at that institution. Sometimes you have to take the good > > with the bad. I am thankful for St. Jude no matter what their > > policies are on vaccines. Vicki > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2007 Report Share Posted December 16, 2007 St Jude/cancer help? Deirdre Imus is the one I would turn to. St. Jude's entire group of paradigms are wrongs. > > > > I would not be at all surprised to find that many of the cancers > which are occurring today, were caused by vaccines injected in the > past. That is likely a " given " , since most (perhaps even all) vaccines > have not been tested for the potential to cause carcinogenicity. It is > interesting that almost all vaccine manufacturers attach this brief > note in their product information/product insert section. Does this > mean they will get away with whatever damages were caused? They likely > will, thanks to riders which absolved them of any responsibility for > damages caused by vaccines, which they developed and/or promoted, but > WERE NOT EVALUATED FOR THEIR POTENTIAL TO CAUSE CARCINOGENICITY, and > GENOTOXICITY. Why are people allowing vaccines that have not been > tested/evaluated for their potential to cause CARCINOGENICITY and > GENOTOXICITY to be injected into their children or even themselves? > They must either be a bunch of idiots, or they know nothing about > this. I would think the latter is > > true. Do your homework, friends, before the powers that be (and > want to continue being so...) get the best of you! > > > > Aasa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 A couple of yrs ago I took in my daughter's cat. She got rabies & feline leukemia. She didn't eat after that, a day later we took her back, the vet took one look at her & immediately started an IV. He said, " I believe she's had what's called a 'vaccine reaction.' That's when -- " I stopped him right there & said, " YOu don't have to explain it to me, you see that little girl out there? She has autism because of a vaccine reaction, only me would this also happen to with our cat after every thing else! " He told me it was probably the FeLV and he would recommend in the future to...I don't even remember what I he said. I told him not to worry, there would be no more " next time. " We probably will do rabies again because she is an outdoor cat & we have lots of 'possums & racoons in the neighborhood, along with active cases of rabies in the region each summer. But we ain't ever doing the FeLV again. We also have a service dog in training, so we have to have the mandatory ones for her to have public access. Debi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 I agree. I'll be honest, I've always not paid animal shots too much attention because...well...they're animals & since I've had kids I don't get nearly as attached. But, my kids do. And, since we've invested so much time & energy into getting our SD trained, I've become far more concerned. The last thing we need is to have put so much time into a dog that gets sick because of a shot. It is hard, though, in a region where access isn't so easily given to a SD to then fight the shots battle on top of it, on top of already fighting it for kids. I don't think Lyme is required here, but I could be wrong. Debi > > You can request that your vet order the rabies vaccine > withOUT the thimerasol (MERCURY). Same manufacturer > and I think it even costs less. GO FIGURE! Our vet > listened to me and now only gives that vaccine mercury > free. > > Unfortunately not all of the vaccines are offered > without thimerasol but if more of us ask or refuse to > vaccinate they may change the ingredients. > > FWIW our vet does not think the lyme vaccine is > effective....she has vaccinated lots of dogs for lyme > that did get lyme anyway. The lyme vaccine can only be > purchased with mercury. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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