Re: Got a Good One For You All

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Have you looked at the walmart tapes? You say you did t see what happened...how

are you so sure he didn't do the damage? I am sorry if you already mentioned

this in the posts. I've been busy.

Sharon <kmusikmom2@...> wrote:

>It appears that our stupid neighbors are going to take to small claims

court for something he didn't do - push a Walmart shopping cart into their car -

ugh

>

>It has gotten ugly, 2 letters that they have written are full of lies and they

want us to pay $358 for the damages for a 2 inch scratch.

>

>I want to fight them, but I am afraid for to go to the courthouse to

tell his side of the story cause he is the only one who knows it, I did not see

it happen or not happen. I just was privy to the aftermath - which was/is not

pretty.

>

>I am just so frustrated, husband wants to pay them off to make it go away - I

say that sends the wrong message to our son - that the squeaky lying wheel gets

the money. And that we don't believe him - says he just wants it to go

away but he is not afraid to go to court - sorta, he doesn't know what to expect

so that fear is great.

>

>This is a long shot but has anybody ever taken their children to court to face

a judge and a bunch of lying neighbors - and they are our next door neighbors

and we can't move and they won't move cause he built their house.

>

>The whole thing hinges on the testimony of 2 teenage girls and my son they are

the only ones who know what really happened and then when the mother and I got

into it verbally only and her son heard what was said - she even said

that should be in an insane asslyum - that in itself hurt him more.

>

>Then as she was walking back into the Walmart to look at the parking lot tapes

I said fine go ahead and then she said she was going to sue my ass, I said fine

did nothing wrong - well they are sticking to their word and we have

until Jan 11 to pay or they are going to go to court or so they say.

>

>So again does anybody have any ideas or have taken their child to court to

defend them - he is 12.5 and pretty high functioning.

>

>sharon - mom to - PDD/NOS, Aspergers, Global Apraxia, Hypotonia and

generally a good kid

>

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I haven't been to court. But I think social stories would help prepare him.

You could also have " pretend " court practices. The good news is that most

judges are protective of kids. If you decide to go, make sure the judge sees

your son for the amazing kid he is.

BTW, I know this person doesn't deserve the money, but it may be way less costly

for you (emotionally, etc) to just pay them. If you choose to pay them, make

sure you write a letter making it clear that your son did not do this but you

are paying them because.... (fill the blank). Make sure your son reads the

letter.

Another option would be to file a counter-suit claiming that they are

discriminating against your son. You have some good evidence. That should

probably scare them a bit.

Jill

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> It appears that our stupid neighbors are going to take to small claims

court for something he didn't do - push a Walmart shopping cart into their car -

ugh

>

> It has gotten ugly, 2 letters that they have written are full of lies and they

want us to pay $358 for the damages for a 2 inch scratch.

>

> I want to fight them, but I am afraid for to go to the courthouse to

tell his side of the story cause he is the only one who knows it, I did not see

it happen or not happen. I just was privy to the aftermath - which was/is not

pretty.

>

> I am just so frustrated, husband wants to pay them off to make it go away - I

say that sends the wrong message to our son - that the squeaky lying wheel gets

the money. And that we don't believe him - says he just wants it to go

away but he is not afraid to go to court - sorta, he doesn't know what to expect

so that fear is great.

>

> This is a long shot but has anybody ever taken their children to court to face

a judge and a bunch of lying neighbors - and they are our next door neighbors

and we can't move and they won't move cause he built their house.

>

> The whole thing hinges on the testimony of 2 teenage girls and my son they are

the only ones who know what really happened and then when the mother and I got

into it verbally only and her son heard what was said - she even said

that should be in an insane asslyum - that in itself hurt him more.

>

> Then as she was walking back into the Walmart to look at the parking lot tapes

I said fine go ahead and then she said she was going to sue my ass, I said fine

did nothing wrong - well they are sticking to their word and we have

until Jan 11 to pay or they are going to go to court or so they say.

>

> So again does anybody have any ideas or have taken their child to court to

defend them - he is 12.5 and pretty high functioning.

>

> sharon - mom to - PDD/NOS, Aspergers, Global Apraxia, Hypotonia and

generally a good kid

>

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Just a thought, but why don't they go through their auto insurance? I would

also ask Walmart to see the tapes, you may find out they've already been erased

>

> It appears that our stupid neighbors are going to take to small claims

court for something he didn't do - push a Walmart shopping cart into their car -

ugh

>

> It has gotten ugly, 2 letters that they have written are full of lies and they

want us to pay $358 for the damages for a 2 inch scratch.

>

> I want to fight them, but I am afraid for to go to the courthouse to

tell his side of the story cause he is the only one who knows it, I did not see

it happen or not happen. I just was privy to the aftermath - which was/is not

pretty.

>

> I am just so frustrated, husband wants to pay them off to make it go away - I

say that sends the wrong message to our son - that the squeaky lying wheel gets

the money. And that we don't believe him - says he just wants it to go

away but he is not afraid to go to court - sorta, he doesn't know what to expect

so that fear is great.

>

> This is a long shot but has anybody ever taken their children to court to face

a judge and a bunch of lying neighbors - and they are our next door neighbors

and we can't move and they won't move cause he built their house.

>

> The whole thing hinges on the testimony of 2 teenage girls and my son they are

the only ones who know what really happened and then when the mother and I got

into it verbally only and her son heard what was said - she even said

that should be in an insane asslyum - that in itself hurt him more.

>

> Then as she was walking back into the Walmart to look at the parking lot tapes

I said fine go ahead and then she said she was going to sue my ass, I said fine

did nothing wrong - well they are sticking to their word and we have

until Jan 11 to pay or they are going to go to court or so they say.

>

> So again does anybody have any ideas or have taken their child to court to

defend them - he is 12.5 and pretty high functioning.

>

> sharon - mom to - PDD/NOS, Aspergers, Global Apraxia, Hypotonia and

generally a good kid

>

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because they are mean vindictative liars. I was told by the police that the tapes were worthless and were panning cameras and were not aimed where my son and they were and they were grainy too boot. They are useless.

Finaly have pictures of the scratch, it is so deep there is no doubt in mind the car was keyed and based on who drives it the most doesn't surprise me at all.

SharonI did not chose to have Autism in my life, God did

From: groots94 <Lake260@...>Subject: Re: Got a Good One For You Allautism Date: Saturday, January 8, 2011, 4:07 PM

Just a thought, but why don't they go through their auto insurance? I would also ask Walmart to see the tapes, you may find out they've already been erased>> It appears that our stupid neighbors are going to take to small claims court for something he didn't do - push a Walmart shopping cart into their car - ugh> > It has gotten ugly, 2 letters that they have written are full of lies and they want us to pay $358 for the damages for a 2 inch scratch.> > I want to fight them, but I am afraid for to go to the courthouse to tell his side of the story cause he is the only one who knows it, I did not see it happen or not

happen. I just was privy to the aftermath - which was/is not pretty.> > I am just so frustrated, husband wants to pay them off to make it go away - I say that sends the wrong message to our son - that the squeaky lying wheel gets the money. And that we don't believe him - says he just wants it to go away but he is not afraid to go to court - sorta, he doesn't know what to expect so that fear is great.> > This is a long shot but has anybody ever taken their children to court to face a judge and a bunch of lying neighbors - and they are our next door neighbors and we can't move and they won't move cause he built their house. > > The whole thing hinges on the testimony of 2 teenage girls and my son they are the only ones who know what really happened and then when the mother and I got into it verbally only and her son heard what was said - she even said that should be in an insane asslyum -

that in itself hurt him more. > > Then as she was walking back into the Walmart to look at the parking lot tapes I said fine go ahead and then she said she was going to sue my ass, I said fine did nothing wrong - well they are sticking to their word and we have until Jan 11 to pay or they are going to go to court or so they say.> > So again does anybody have any ideas or have taken their child to court to defend them - he is 12.5 and pretty high functioning.> > sharon - mom to - PDD/NOS, Aspergers, Global Apraxia, Hypotonia and generally a good kid>

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I am positive he did not do the damage cause my son does not lie. He has never been able to he may try but after about 5 seconds he caves, he has not changed his story since Nov 4 and it is now January - even his private social worker who works with him every week tried to see if he was lying she agrees he is not. I have finally seen the scratch from pictures the cop took, they are way too deep to be just a brush with a cart - looks to me like little high school girl got herself keyed.

SharonI did not chose to have Autism in my life, God did>It appears that our stupid neighbors are going to take to small claims court for something he didn't do - push a Walmart shopping cart into their car - ugh>>It has gotten ugly, 2 letters that they have written are full of lies and they want us to pay $358 for the damages for a 2 inch scratch.>>I want to fight them, but I am afraid for to go to the courthouse to tell his side of the story cause he is the only one who knows it, I did not see it happen or not happen. I just was privy to the aftermath -

which was/is not pretty.>>I am just so frustrated, husband wants to pay them off to make it go away - I say that sends the wrong message to our son - that the squeaky lying wheel gets the money. And that we don't believe him - says he just wants it to go away but he is not afraid to go to court - sorta, he doesn't know what to expect so that fear is great.>>This is a long shot but has anybody ever taken their children to court to face a judge and a bunch of lying neighbors - and they are our next door neighbors and we can't move and they won't move cause he built their house. >>The whole thing hinges on the testimony of 2 teenage girls and my son they are the only ones who know what really happened and then when the mother and I got into it verbally only and her son heard what was said - she even said that should be in an insane asslyum - that in itself hurt him more. >>Then as

she was walking back into the Walmart to look at the parking lot tapes I said fine go ahead and then she said she was going to sue my ass, I said fine did nothing wrong - well they are sticking to their word and we have until Jan 11 to pay or they are going to go to court or so they say.>>So again does anybody have any ideas or have taken their child to court to defend them - he is 12.5 and pretty high functioning.>>sharon - mom to - PDD/NOS, Aspergers, Global Apraxia, Hypotonia and generally a good kid>

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If you go to court. And lose. Pay $1/month. Let them wait it out

Sharon <kmusikmom2@...> wrote:

>because they are mean vindictative liars.  I was told by the police that the

tapes were worthless and were panning cameras and were not aimed where my son

and they were and they were grainy too boot.  They are useless.

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>Finaly have pictures of the scratch, it is so deep there is no doubt in mind

the car was keyed and based on who drives it the most doesn't surprise me at

all.

> 

>Sharon

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>I did not chose to have Autism in my life, God did

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>From: groots94 <Lake260@...>

>Subject: Re: Got a Good One For You All

>autism

>Date: Saturday, January 8, 2011, 4:07 PM

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>Just a thought, but why don't they go through their auto insurance? I would

also ask Walmart to see the tapes, you may find out they've already been erased

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>> It appears that our stupid neighbors are going to take to small claims

court for something he didn't do - push a Walmart shopping cart into their car -

ugh

>>

>> It has gotten ugly, 2 letters that they have written are full of lies and

they want us to pay $358 for the damages for a 2 inch scratch.

>>

>> I want to fight them, but I am afraid for to go to the courthouse to

tell his side of the story cause he is the only one who knows it, I did not see

it happen or not happen. I just was privy to the aftermath - which was/is not

pretty.

>>

>> I am just so frustrated, husband wants to pay them off to make it go away - I

say that sends the wrong message to our son - that the squeaky lying wheel gets

the money. And that we don't believe him - says he just wants it to go

away but he is not afraid to go to court - sorta, he doesn't know what to expect

so that fear is great.

>>

>> This is a long shot but has anybody ever taken their children to court to

face a judge and a bunch of lying neighbors - and they are our next door

neighbors and we can't move and they won't move cause he built their house.

>>

>> The whole thing hinges on the testimony of 2 teenage girls and my son they

are the only ones who know what really happened and then when the mother and I

got into it verbally only and her son heard what was said - she even said

that should be in an insane asslyum - that in itself hurt him more.

>>

>> Then as she was walking back into the Walmart to look at the parking lot

tapes I said fine go ahead and then she said she was going to sue my ass, I said

fine did nothing wrong - well they are sticking to their word and we have

until Jan 11 to pay or they are going to go to court or so they say.

>>

>> So again does anybody have any ideas or have taken their child to court to

defend them - he is 12.5 and pretty high functioning.

>>

>> sharon - mom to - PDD/NOS, Aspergers, Global Apraxia, Hypotonia and

generally a good kid

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Did the police measure the height of the scratch from the ground? Carts don’t usually do that much damage. Other people’s car doors, maybe. Will the cart even match up anywhere with the scratch? If you can show that the cart couldn’t have done the damage that’s evidence you can present to the judge if it goes to court.

You should make your own police report if any of the parties threatened you or any in your family.

Do you have any liability insurance? Sometimes it is included with homeowners insurance. If so, contact your insurance agent. They might have an adjuster who could look at the car.

A person who does insurance adjusting on cars can probably look at the scratch and say whether it is consistent with a shopping cart. They see all sorts of stuff. Someone kicked the fender of my car (I didn’t see it) and did an amazing amount of damage. There was a large dent. The first thing the insurance adjuster said was that someone had kicked it. He could tell just by looking.

I am a retired police officer. The city judges wouldn’t let anyone under 16 testify. That was in criminal cases. It is probably different in civil cases, and different judges have different policies. If it looks like you are going to court you can make arrangements to take your son to see the court room and get familiar with things ahead of time. This is beneficial for all kids before court.

From: Sharon

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 5:31 PM

autism

Subject: Re: Got a Good One For You All

I am positive he did not do the damage cause my son does not lie. He has never been able to he may try but after about 5 seconds he caves, he has not changed his story since Nov 4 and it is now January - even his private social worker who works with him every week tried to see if he was lying she agrees he is not. I have finally seen the scratch from pictures the cop took, they are way too deep to be just a brush with a cart - looks to me like little high school girl got herself keyed.

SharonI did not chose to have Autism in my life, God did>It appears that our stupid neighbors are going to take to small claims court for something he didn't do - push a Walmart shopping cart into their car - ugh>>It has gotten ugly, 2 letters that they have written are full of lies and they want us to pay $358 for the damages for a 2 inch scratch.>>I want to fight them, but I am afraid for to go to the courthouse to tell his side of the story cause he is the only one who knows it, I did not see it happen or not happen. I just was privy to the aftermath - which was/is not pretty.>>I am just so frustrated, husband wants to pay them off to make it go away - I say that sends the wrong message to our son - that the squeaky lying wheel gets the money. And that we don't believe him - says he just wants it to go away but he is not afraid to go to court - sorta, he doesn't know what to expect so that fear is great.>>This is a long shot but has anybody ever taken their children to court to face a judge and a bunch of lying neighbors - and they are our next door neighbors and we can't move and they won't move cause he built their house. >>The whole thing hinges on the testimony of 2 teenage girls and my son they are the only ones who know what really happened and then when the mother and I got into it verbally only and her son heard what was said - she even said that should be in an insane asslyum - that in itself hurt him more. >>Then as she was walking back into the Walmart to look at the parking lot tapes I said fine go ahead and then she said she was going to sue my ass, I said fine did nothing wrong - well they are sticking to their word and we have until Jan 11 to pay or they are going to go to court or so they say.>>So again does anybody have any ideas or have taken their child to court to defend them - he is 12.5 and pretty high functioning.>>sharon - mom to - PDD/NOS, Aspergers, Global Apraxia, Hypotonia and generally a good kid>

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the police did none of those things, I have filed my report with the police,. I did call my insurance company but they can do nothing because my son was not charged with anything he was just name as a suspect - much to my neighbors dismay despite what she says in her letters.

They have already had the bumper replaced so the evidence is gone. It is just the word of my 12.5 year old and their 17 and 14 year old. I did not see it so I am not even a witness and neither is the mom of the other children. The first words out of her mouth after she said she was going to look at the Walmart tapes was I am going to sue your ass.

They are just horrible horrible people their son has been tormenting my son since they moved in here 6 years ago. My son won't even go outside unless an adult is present cause of this kid.

They just want money - my lawyer is adamant that we do not pay them - she is not a Civil attorney but she has been helping me with the wordings of my letters back to them stating again and again and again that we are not going to pay for any damages until they can prove that my son did it. They will never be able to prove it - the evidence is not there.

It is just a nightmare - I hope they go away after this last letter that was sent.

SharonI did not chose to have Autism in my life, God did>It appears that our stupid neighbors are going to take to small claims court for something he didn't do - push a Walmart shopping cart into their car - ugh>>It has gotten ugly, 2 letters that they have written are full of lies and they want us to pay $358 for the damages for a 2 inch scratch.>>I want to fight them, but I am afraid for to go to the courthouse to tell his side of the story cause he is the only one who knows it, I did not see it happen or not happen. I just was privy to the aftermath - which was/is not pretty.>>I am

just so frustrated, husband wants to pay them off to make it go away - I say that sends the wrong message to our son - that the squeaky lying wheel gets the money. And that we don't believe him - says he just wants it to go away but he is not afraid to go to court - sorta, he doesn't know what to expect so that fear is great.>>This is a long shot but has anybody ever taken their children to court to face a judge and a bunch of lying neighbors - and they are our next door neighbors and we can't move and they won't move cause he built their house. >>The whole thing hinges on the testimony of 2 teenage girls and my son they are the only ones who know what really happened and then when the mother and I got into it verbally only and her son heard what was said - she even said that should be in an insane asslyum - that in itself hurt him more. >>Then as she was walking back into the Walmart to

look at the parking lot tapes I said fine go ahead and then she said she was going to sue my ass, I said fine did nothing wrong - well they are sticking to their word and we have until Jan 11 to pay or they are going to go to court or so they say.>>So again does anybody have any ideas or have taken their child to court to defend them - he is 12.5 and pretty high functioning.>>sharon - mom to - PDD/NOS, Aspergers, Global Apraxia, Hypotonia and generally a good kid>

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What a horrible family. They are discriminating against your son and it breaks my heart to read about it. I hope something causes them to move away. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: Sharon <kmusikmom2@...>Sender: autism Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 18:56:34 -0800 (PST)<autism >Reply autism Subject: Re: Got a Good One For You All the police did none of those things, I have filed my report with the police,. I did call my insurance company but they can do nothing because my son was not charged with anything he was just name as a suspect - much to my neighbors dismay despite what she says in her letters. They have already had the bumper replaced so the evidence is gone. It is just the word of my 12.5 year old and their 17 and 14 year old. I did not see it so I am not even a witness and neither is the mom of the other children. The first words out of her mouth after she said she was going to look at the Walmart tapes was I am going to sue your ass. They are just horrible horrible people their son has been tormenting my son since they moved in here 6 years ago. My son won't even go outside unless an adult is present cause of this kid. They just want money - my lawyer is adamant that we do not pay them - she is not a Civil attorney but she has been helping me with the wordings of my letters back to them stating again and again and again that we are not going to pay for any damages until they can prove that my son did it. They will never be able to prove it - the evidence is not there. It is just a nightmare - I hope they go away after this last letter that was sent. SharonI did not chose to have Autism in my life, God did>It appears that our stupid neighbors are going to take to small claims court for something he didn't do - push a Walmart shopping cart into their car - ugh>>It has gotten ugly, 2 letters that they have written are full of lies and they want us to pay $358 for the damages for a 2 inch scratch.>>I want to fight them, but I am afraid for to go to the courthouse to tell his side of the story cause he is the only one who knows it, I did not see it happen or not happen. I just was privy to the aftermath - which was/is not pretty.>>I amjust so frustrated, husband wants to pay them off to make it go away - I say that sends the wrong message to our son - that the squeaky lying wheel gets the money. And that we don't believe him - says he just wants it to go away but he is not afraid to go to court - sorta, he doesn't know what to expect so that fear is great.>>This is a long shot but has anybody ever taken their children to court to face a judge and a bunch of lying neighbors - and they are our next door neighbors and we can't move and they won't move cause he built their house. >>The whole thing hinges on the testimony of 2 teenage girls and my son they are the only ones who know what really happened and then when the mother and I got into it verbally only and her son heard what was said - she even said that should be in an insane asslyum - that in itself hurt him more. >>Then as she was walking back into the Walmart tolook at the parking lot tapes I said fine go ahead and then she said she was going to sue my ass, I said fine did nothing wrong - well they are sticking to their word and we have until Jan 11 to pay or they are going to go to court or so they say.>>So again does anybody have any ideas or have taken their child to court to defend them - he is 12.5 and pretty high functioning.>>sharon - mom to - PDD/NOS, Aspergers, Global Apraxia, Hypotonia and generally a good kid>