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In a message dated 2/18/00 2:13:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,

eyore68@... writes:

<< I also know what

you mean about dental insurance, my son needs

braces....not covered. $4000!!!!!!!!!!! A friend of

his has a full set of braces for free, his Mom is on

welfare, I am not saying welfare recipients should not

get care, but I do say that there should be a standard

where every kid and adult gets care >>

I totally agree! I hope I didn't come off sounding like people on welfare

should not get care. I just think it is so unfair that people who work their

butts off and really sacrifice can't get any help. My friend lives with a guy

who makes a decent amount of money. She is able to collect welfare because

she lies and says he is just her roommate (he's more than that). Her welfare

check is spending money. She guys clothes, gets her nails done... Her medical

and dental care is free. I know that there are many people on welfare who

really need it. But when I see people abuse it, it makes me so mad. I feel

like I am being punished for trying to do the right thing. I luckily was able

to get a great, inexpensive medical plan for my kids because we met income

requirements. It is a plan for working familles that don't have coverage. I

am so thankful for that, but come August I will lose it because I work nights

to help make ends meet. Now we are over the income requirements! We don't

live extravagantly! A lot of our money goes towards putting the two of us

through college (my hubby and I). I figure if we hang on until we both

graduate, things will get better... Gee, sorry to vent again! I'll drop this

now!

:)

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In a message dated 2/18/00 4:50:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,

mmgraves@... writes:

<< I can't stand hearing stories about people who abuse the

system and I know that if we didn't have food stamps we wouldn't be able to

eat every month. It's a hard road to go...people look at you funny when your

standing in line at the grocery store, it's embaressing, but we have to do

right now. And a lot of people look at us weird when we sya we have a

computer and we have online access and a web site. Actually that is a long

story but we once did have more money and could afford to get the computer

we have.

>>

,

You are a perfect example of the way it is supposed to be used! People who

abuse it drive me nuts because it takes away from people who really need the

help. Of course I don't think differently of you! I was mainly venting about

people like my sister in law, who collected checks for 7 years while living

with a guy who made 40,000 a year. Or people like my friend who uses her

check to get manicures. You are feeding your children and that is nothing to

be ashamed of! Plus, you are working so hard on your website and to get into

the military. I really admire that. I got WIC when my daughter was a baby. I

know what you mean about people looking at you funny. I now am a cashier at a

grocery store and I make sure to be extra kind to people with WIC or food

stamps because I know how embarrassing it can be!

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Coming from someone who is currently " in " the system. No, I don't mind you

all talking about it, and right now the only way we live is by welfare.

Well, we don't actually get money from welfare. The only thing we get is

food stamps and Medicaid for the boys. Even with our income from online we

don't make enough to get off of it. (That's another reason I want to go into

the Marines) I am the only person in the household that doesn't have any

insuance at all. Mike gets VA benifits from being in the military and the

boys have Medicaid. I actually have two cavities and I can't do anything

about them until I go to boot camp in May and they have a dentist there look

and fix them. I can't stand hearing stories about people who abuse the

system and I know that if we didn't have food stamps we wouldn't be able to

eat every month. It's a hard road to go...people look at you funny when your

standing in line at the grocery store, it's embaressing, but we have to do

right now. And a lot of people look at us weird when we sya we have a

computer and we have online access and a web site. Actually that is a long

story but we once did have more money and could afford to get the computer

we have.

Who hopes no one thinks differently of her now.

Re: Ouch and a brag OT

> In a message dated 2/18/00 2:13:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> eyore68@... writes:

>

> << I also know what

> you mean about dental insurance, my son needs

> braces....not covered. $4000!!!!!!!!!!! A friend of

> his has a full set of braces for free, his Mom is on

> welfare, I am not saying welfare recipients should not

> get care, but I do say that there should be a standard

> where every kid and adult gets care >>

>

> I totally agree! I hope I didn't come off sounding like people on welfare

> should not get care. I just think it is so unfair that people who work

their

> butts off and really sacrifice can't get any help. My friend lives with a

guy

> who makes a decent amount of money. She is able to collect welfare because

> she lies and says he is just her roommate (he's more than that). Her

welfare

> check is spending money. She guys clothes, gets her nails done... Her

medical

> and dental care is free. I know that there are many people on welfare who

> really need it. But when I see people abuse it, it makes me so mad. I feel

> like I am being punished for trying to do the right thing. I luckily was

able

> to get a great, inexpensive medical plan for my kids because we met income

> requirements. It is a plan for working familles that don't have coverage.

I

> am so thankful for that, but come August I will lose it because I work

nights

> to help make ends meet. Now we are over the income requirements! We don't

> live extravagantly! A lot of our money goes towards putting the two of us

> through college (my hubby and I). I figure if we hang on until we both

> graduate, things will get better... Gee, sorry to vent again! I'll drop

this

> now!

> :)

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> " We are all athletes in training for life rather than overweight folks

trying to drop some pounds temporarily cuz Haste doe not make a Waist "

>

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** wrote:

>

> Coming from someone who is currently " in " the system. No, I don't mind you

> all talking about it, and right now the only way we live is by welfare.

> I can't stand hearing stories about people who abuse the

> system and I know that if we didn't have food stamps we wouldn't be able to

> eat every month. It's a hard road to go...people look at you funny when your

> standing in line at the grocery store, it's embaressing, but we have to do

> right now. And a lot of people look at us weird when we sya we have a

> computer and we have online access and a web site. Actually that is a long

> story but we once did have more money and could afford to get the computer

> we have.

>

>

> Who hopes no one thinks differently of her now.

>

, of course no one thinks differently of you. You are doing what

you have to do for yourself and your family and you are taking steps to

get a career. That is what matters.

Elena

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Re: Ouch and a brag OT

Who hopes no one thinks differently of her now.

,

Of course nobody will think differently of you now. There are people on

welfare who

truly need the assistance and it sounds like you are definitely one of those

people.

It's nothing to be ashamed of, especially since you are using the money to

help feed

your family. Thanks for your honesty and for showing us that there are

people who

use the system for what it was intended and don't abuse it.

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,

of course we don't think any differently of you now!!! welfare is made to

help people out in tough times, not a way of life! there is nothing wrong

with you getting assistance, that is what it is there for!!!! it is the

people that don't care, and have no intention of getting off that are

wrong!!

~Nicci

>From: " ** " <mmgraves@...>

>Reply-tae-bo_onegroups

><tae-bo_onegroups>

>Subject: Re: Ouch and a brag OT

>Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:49:56 -0500

>

>Coming from someone who is currently " in " the system. No, I don't mind you

>all talking about it, and right now the only way we live is by welfare.

>Well, we don't actually get money from welfare. The only thing we get is

>food stamps and Medicaid for the boys. Even with our income from online we

>don't make enough to get off of it. (That's another reason I want to go

>into

>the Marines) I am the only person in the household that doesn't have any

>insuance at all. Mike gets VA benifits from being in the military and the

>boys have Medicaid. I actually have two cavities and I can't do anything

>about them until I go to boot camp in May and they have a dentist there

>look

>and fix them. I can't stand hearing stories about people who abuse the

>system and I know that if we didn't have food stamps we wouldn't be able to

>eat every month. It's a hard road to go...people look at you funny when

>your

>standing in line at the grocery store, it's embaressing, but we have to do

>right now. And a lot of people look at us weird when we sya we have a

>computer and we have online access and a web site. Actually that is a long

>story but we once did have more money and could afford to get the computer

>we have.

>

>

>Who hopes no one thinks differently of her now.

> Re: Ouch and a brag OT

>

>

> > In a message dated 2/18/00 2:13:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> > eyore68@... writes:

> >

> > << I also know what

> > you mean about dental insurance, my son needs

> > braces....not covered. $4000!!!!!!!!!!! A friend of

> > his has a full set of braces for free, his Mom is on

> > welfare, I am not saying welfare recipients should not

> > get care, but I do say that there should be a standard

> > where every kid and adult gets care >>

> >

> > I totally agree! I hope I didn't come off sounding like people on

>welfare

> > should not get care. I just think it is so unfair that people who work

>their

> > butts off and really sacrifice can't get any help. My friend lives with

>a

>guy

> > who makes a decent amount of money. She is able to collect welfare

>because

> > she lies and says he is just her roommate (he's more than that). Her

>welfare

> > check is spending money. She guys clothes, gets her nails done... Her

>medical

> > and dental care is free. I know that there are many people on welfare

>who

> > really need it. But when I see people abuse it, it makes me so mad. I

>feel

> > like I am being punished for trying to do the right thing. I luckily was

>able

> > to get a great, inexpensive medical plan for my kids because we met

>income

> > requirements. It is a plan for working familles that don't have

>coverage.

>I

> > am so thankful for that, but come August I will lose it because I work

>nights

> > to help make ends meet. Now we are over the income requirements! We

>don't

> > live extravagantly! A lot of our money goes towards putting the two of

>us

> > through college (my hubby and I). I figure if we hang on until we both

> > graduate, things will get better... Gee, sorry to vent again! I'll drop

>this

> > now!

> > :)

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > " We are all athletes in training for life rather than overweight folks

>trying to drop some pounds temporarily cuz Haste doe not make a Waist "

> >

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In a message dated 2/18/00 7:45:13 PM !!!First Boot!!!, Agaw12577@...

writes:

<<

From: Agaw12577@...

Reply-to: tae-bo_onegroups >>

Hey ,

I just thought of something. Since you were insured before under your

husbands previous job....can you get with that company again and continue the

insurance privately.....maybe just for a little while? :-) They could just

continue your policy like a renewal instead of having to go through a whole 6

month ordeal. Also ask your dentist about a temporary crown...one that could

get you through that 6 months at a lower price.

Your right to be mad about people who abuse the welfare system. Those are

the type of people who prevent the real people from getting help when they

need it. My sister-in-law is almost debilitated by Lupas and my brother has

to take a low paying yet flexible job ( he works for our family business) to

take care of her and their three kids. They cant get any help. I dont think

the answer is plugging more money into the system though because that will

mean higher taxes and pushing even more people below poverty level.

I could go on..but wont

Who is really happy this saturday evening.....heee heeee

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In a message dated 2/19/00 9:31:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, GalofGOP@...

writes:

<< just thought of something. Since you were insured before under your

husbands previous job....can you get with that company again and continue

the

insurance privately.....maybe just for a little while? :-) They could just

continue your policy like a renewal instead of having to go through a whole

6

month ordeal. Also ask your dentist about a temporary crown...one that could

get you through that 6 months at a lower price >>

Good idea! I'll look into that! Thanks !

:)

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