Guest guest Posted December 4, 1999 Report Share Posted December 4, 1999 >When Amy described her moods the other day, I thought: that was me on Wellbutrin. I was on a rollercoaster. Then, I got shingles. The doctor doesn't think that the Wellbutrin triggered it, but I do. My nervous system was in such a mess from going off zoloft and trying the Wellbutrin. Most importantly, the wellbutrin didn't help my back pain like zoloft/prozac do. So, I just have to cross my fingers (or legs?) for the next antidepressant. > > Elena Elena, Shingles is not a side effect of any of the antidepressants. It's probably just a coincidence that you got shingles while taking antidepressants. Janick who's medical school exams are starting to be far away, but would of remembered such side effects when studying antidepressants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2000 Report Share Posted February 11, 2000 In a message dated 02/11/2000 6:52:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, neny@... writes: << " stacy kramer " <selensilvermoo-@...> wrote: {I know I have got a great man and it took alot of time and mistakes to find him. (Long story for another time) _________________________________________________ , Details, Details, without getting to personal.... I am in kind of a bind with a " Man " and need some insight (^-^) >> Oh goody!!! do we now have the invitation to preach what to look for in a man?? Barb who is married to my best friend who has a great sense of humor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2000 Report Share Posted February 11, 2000 In a message dated 2/11/00 5:55:45 PM Central Standard Time, Horsemom2@... writes: << Oh goody!!! do we now have the invitation to preach what to look for in a man?? >> PLEASE!!!!! I think I'm getting cold feet again. February is a bad month for me and l'amour and I'm just so stressed. is such a nice guy most of the time, but he's really simple. I'm a complex person. Its probably better that I'm with a simple person....but ahhhh I'm freaked out! I dont want to be single againbecause I hate being alone and I know I love JAmes...but I've always been in love with dating .....the first few months were always the best. I was a seriel dater and I think alot of that has to do with self-esteem issues (as if ya'll haven't noticed). I just want our relationship to be kind of like we are dating only a small percentage of the time. Sometimes I just want to be surprised. Actually the beggining of ' and my relationship was weird..because I kept thinking he's not my type and I'll go out with a few more times...but it wont last. Is that not weird or what? I was dating several other guys with alot of potential but I got rid of them because introduced me to someone as his girlfriend (after several months) and I just couldnt get rid of him then. Okay breathe...I need to remember to take my pills...I think I think much clearer when I remember. Who hopes somebody went through something similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2000 Report Share Posted February 11, 2000 In a message dated 02/12/2000 3:44:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, GalofGOP@... writes: << Who hopes somebody went through something similar >> , part of growing up is trading in the excitement of new infatuations for a solid relationship. Only you can decide if you have reached that point yet. Some folks just aren't the marrying kind either. I went from being very fickled to realizing a good life companion was more important. Unfortunately, my first husband didn't treat me like his best friend so I left although he was alot better looking than my present husband. Life is about trade-offs and only you can prioritize what you want and need. Barb who worries your need for a chauffeur perhaps makes you more dependent in this situation too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2000 Report Share Posted February 12, 2000 In a message dated 2/12/00 6:57:02 AM Central Standard Time, Horsemom2@... writes: << , part of growing up is trading in the excitement of new infatuations for a solid relationship. Only you can decide if you have reached that point yet. Some folks just aren't the marrying kind either. I went from being very fickled to realizing a good life companion was more important. Unfortunately, my first husband didn't treat me like his best friend so I left although he was alot better looking than my present husband. Life is about trade-offs and only you can prioritize what you want and need. Barb who worries your need for a chauffeur perhaps makes you more dependent in this situation too >> Iguess I want some of those romantic moments. that you have during the first few months. is the " I dont buy flowers because they die and they are expensive " type. I dont want to go back to dating because I would be lonely, I'd lose him and I always had horrible taste in men, cute but no substance, or so smart and succesful they thought of me as a chairity case or a fixer upper. I can get along without driving me. I actually love walking, dont mind the bus and have friends who drive. So I dont think that is influencing me. I do feel better this morning. I think I might be going through some hormonal/emotional glitches as well. The pills I take take away any sort of libido I might have so I know that probably has alot to do with it. I'm not looking at any one else. I'm partially just afraid that I'd turn out like my father and be unfaithful...I wouldnt..but what if I felt that way? One of those sleezy people that IMs you in the middle of the night looking to " hook up " actually did me a favor last night. It reminded me partially of what draws me to JAmes is he is not the typical male...besides loving baseball and having an off color sense of humor. Hes very sensitive, has eyes only for one woman (as far as I can tell) he LOVES cats (almost as much if not more than I) and will get up at 4 AM to break up a cat fight outdoors (like I do). I always thought I would marry a musician or someone who was in band and could appreciate fine arts the way I do. Half of the guys I met through there arent interested in women...but they are my best friends, and a fourth are really just messed up and relationships with them are just psychotic....there are a fourth like was lucky to find that are nice and sweet...but I never found one. is the other part of my personality....the politics. He knows way more than I do and I will always be learning from him about political history even if we disagree on 12% our ideological beliefs. ok I'm sorry for taking up so many messages lol. The last few days have not been my best and sometimes this typing helps me think. If that makes sense. Its like Internet therapy. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2000 Report Share Posted February 12, 2000 In a message dated 2/12/00 11:19:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, GalofGOP@... writes: << I always thought I would marry a musician or someone who was in band and could appreciate fine arts the way I do. Half of the guys I met through there arent interested in women...but they are my best friends, and a fourth are really just messed up and relationships with them are just psychotic....there are a fourth like was lucky to find that are nice and sweet...but I never found one. is the other part of my personality....the politics. >> , I can totally relate to this! My hubby is not who I imagined myself marrying. Not at all. We are so different that sometimes I wonder how we have managed to make things work! I have question though? Are you maybe getting a little freaked because treats you so good? I know in the past, when I have been feeling down on myself, I often do stuff to mess up the relationship that I am in. Kind of like, this guy is too good to me and I don't deserve it so I need to end it. It is not a conscience thought really. I used to do that all the time. I still do at times. If my husband is being really great to me, I'll have these thoughts in the back of my mind like he deserves better than me. It is my low self esteem talking... I am probably making no sense. I am so bad at trying to type! We'll have to talk in LA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2000 Report Share Posted February 12, 2000 In a message dated 02/12/2000 11:19:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, GalofGOP@... writes: << I'm partially just afraid that I'd turn out like my father and be unfaithful...I wouldnt..but what if I felt that way? >> Looking/fantasizing and touching are two different response just Look and Dream without Touching Barb who is still human and still responds to a good looking guy but never touches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2000 Report Share Posted February 12, 2000 In a message dated 2/12/00 10:19:43 AM Central Standard Time, GalofGOP@... writes: << ok I'm sorry for taking up so many messages lol. The last few days have not been my best and sometimes this typing helps me think. If that makes sense. Its like Internet therapy. >> I'm glad you are feeling better today. I'm glad you are giving a lot of thought to how you are feeling also. I'd only be worried if you weren't thinking it all through before you get married. I do think it's just a typical case of cold feet. In reading your messages I did notice a lot of differences in the two of you but I also noticed an equal amount of similarities. Just keep talking to us, don't worry about how many messages you are using. Jenni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2000 Report Share Posted February 12, 2000 Horsemom2@... wrote: > > In a message dated 02/12/2000 3:44:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, > GalofGOP@... writes: > > << > Who hopes somebody went through something similar >> > > , > part of growing up is trading in the excitement of new infatuations for a > solid relationship. Only you can decide if you have reached that point yet. > Some folks just aren't the marrying kind either. I went from being very > fickled to realizing a good life companion was more important. Unfortunately, > my first husband didn't treat me like his best friend so I left although he > was alot better looking than my present husband. Life is about trade-offs and > only you can prioritize what you want and need. > > Barb > who worries your need for a chauffeur perhaps makes you more dependent in > this situation too , listen to Barb. I agree with her completely about finding a " long lost friend " and keeping him forever. Maybe you need a little time away from to sort things out? What do you mean that he is " simple " and you are " complex " ? If you mean that you are neurotic (LOL) and he is not, that's fine. That's what my marriage is. I had to end up with someone " normal " or I wouldn't be stable enough. My ex-psychiatrist had several words of wisdom: (1) the right one is someone whom you always find interesting; and (2) love is easy; it's life that is difficult (translation: you can love and be in love with many people, but finding a life mate is the real trick). We'll talk more in L.A. during our sleepovers. Elena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2000 Report Share Posted February 12, 2000 galofgo-@... wrote: original article:tae-bo_on/?start=11397 > ....there are a fourth like was lucky to find that are nice > and sweet...but I never found one. is the other part of my > personality....the politics. He knows way more than I do and I will always > be learning from him about political history even if we disagree on 12% our > ideological beliefs. I'd say I got lucky! The majority of band guys that I have come across are completely messed up and about being faithful...forget it! A lot of it was timing, too. Bob had been with the band for 8 years when I met him, so he had already done the whole scene with regards to being wild and crazy. I know I can trust him and I also know that there are tons of girls out there who are going to throw themselves at Bob. Believe me it's hard for those guys to resist the temptations on the road. But Bob knows I won't stand for it and he loves me too much to hurt me like that....so I am very, very lucky and know that not all of them are like Bob! I know what you mean about our boys not being " emotionally challenging " ...Bob never remembers anything. He forgot my birthday this year and it's the same day as one of the guys in the band....how bad is that? The problem is that every day on the road for him is just another day. So, he didn't realize it was my birthday because he had no idea what day it was! I've definitely had to make some compromises in terms of that " perfect " guy in my head....but, I also know that that " perfect " guy doesn't exist. Yes, there are things about Bob that drive me nuts (the perfectionist me), but I love him and I know that I want him in my life. So, I let some things slide and I'm learning to be a little more flexible. Anyway, I know what you're talking about and the doubts are normal. Just keep talking it out with us and you'll get a better understanding of your feelings and what you should do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2000 Report Share Posted February 12, 2000 > ok I'm sorry for taking up so many messages lol. The last few days have not > been my best and sometimes this typing helps me think. If that makes sense. > Its like Internet therapy. > > :-) > , No need to say your sorry. We all need people to talk to and to have so many here that you trust is a very good thing. Now I can understand how you feel. When and I first got together I was so paranoid. I was so afraid it was going to end up like all my relationships before or that I was the problem with the prior relationships and I was going to screw it up again. I was so scared and scard from before that it made it hard to see what was real and what was fear. I even went to the extrem of trying to push him away before he could hurt me. No matter what I did though he stod beside me and the one thing he said to me in the begining that made me know that he was not like anyone before was this " I know you have been hurt and right now trust is a hard thing for you and so is saying I love you. Thats ok cuz I can wait for you to be ready to trust me and say I love you. I will wait all my life if I have to for you to be ready. See is a very sensitive man to, and he is simple and I am complex. But he has done something for me that no one has ever done and that is to be there for me. Not what he can get out of it and not for what he wants but just for me and my needs. has his own way with romance also. We talked about what we both thought romance should be and we do for the other what they think is romantic. If feels flowers are a waste then talk to him about sented silk flowers they are romantic and they don't die. All you may need is to talk to each other more to find the romance that is right for the both of you. who is hoping this will help you out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2000 Report Share Posted February 12, 2000 GalofGOP@... wrote: > Never worry about long messages about your relationship. It really does help to talk it out. You are not your dad and never will be. Like Barb says, it is very natural to daydream and dream about other men. I think because I dated for so long (50 men between age 16 and 33 when I met my husband), dating is part of me. I used to worry about all the dreams I have about other men, but I think it is natural for that to happen when most of your life has been dating (the excitement, the flirting, the conquest, the breakups, ... ). The dreams and daydreams take nothing away from my relationship with my husband. What I get from my dear, sweet husband in one day is better than everything I got from all my boyfriends over the years. I'm not talking about flowers, but about thoughtfulness (today, e.g., he cleaned up dog poop outside because of my cold without asking). You can always buy YOURSELF flowers or jewelry, ... . Oh, by the way, zoloft/prozac has practically killed my libido, too, but the trade is well worth it. Elena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2000 Report Share Posted February 12, 2000 In a message dated 2/12/00 10:42:46 AM Central Standard Time, Agaw12577@... writes: << , I can totally relate to this! My hubby is not who I imagined myself marrying. Not at all. We are so different that sometimes I wonder how we have managed to make things work! I have question though? Are you maybe getting a little freaked because treats you so good? I know in the past, when I have been feeling down on myself, I often do stuff to mess up the relationship that I am in. Kind of like, this guy is too good to me and I don't deserve it so I need to end it. It is not a conscience thought really. I used to do that all the time. I still do at times. If my husband is being really great to me, I'll have these thoughts in the back of my mind like he deserves better than me. It is my low self esteem talking... I am probably making no sense. I am so bad at trying to type! We'll have to talk in LA! >> Yes you do make sense! I have thought about it but I'm not sure if thats what it is. I'm feeling better today. He and I had a good day lots of hugs between us. I'm hoping its chemical really. I've had a bit of insomnia lately (as I type this at 4 in the morning) and some other indications that things are out of whack again. I'm going to try and be extra diligent about actually taking my medication and if that doesnt work its off to the doctor for me. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2000 Report Share Posted February 12, 2000 In a message dated 2/12/00 12:51:55 PM Central Standard Time, Horsemom2@... writes: << Looking/fantasizing and touching are two different response just Look and Dream without Touching Barb who is still human and still responds to a good looking guy but never touches >> See this is where life gets ironic. I would be just absolutely horrified if I knew he did that. I still notice cute guys though. I don't think I could ever look on Ford in the eye if I met him .....lol Just kidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2000 Report Share Posted February 12, 2000 In a message dated 2/12/00 1:27:07 PM Central Standard Time, slowens@... writes: << I know what you mean about our boys not being " emotionally challenging " ...Bob never remembers anything. He forgot my birthday this year and it's the same day as one of the guys in the band....how bad is that? >> That is horrible ...I'm so sorry. My parents forgot my 16 birthday and it scarred me for life...so I'm real senstive about people remembering now. is good about the dates....he remembers at least but that doesnt mean he'll want to do something. We were talking about going out to celebrate an anniversary one time and he suggested IHOP. <gasp> I think honestly that I'm a higher maitenance person than he is. it takes more for me to be happy. He is simple in the fact that if he has food and nothing went horribly wrong he's king of the world. I do need him for balance in that sense :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2000 Report Share Posted February 12, 2000 In a message dated 2/12/00 1:50:08 PM Central Standard Time, selensilvermoon@... writes: << See is a very sensitive man to, and he is simple and I am complex. But he has done something for me that no one has ever done and that is to be there for me. Not what he can get out of it and not for what he wants but just for me and my needs. has his own way with romance also. We talked about what we both thought romance should be and we do for the other what they think is romantic. If feels flowers are a waste then talk to him about sented silk flowers they are romantic and they don't die. All you may need is to talk to each other more to find the romance that is right for the both of you. who is hoping this will help you out. >> Thank you it sounds like you have a great guy. HATES it when I bring up the subject of romance....so I might need to find a magazine article about it and out it in the bathroom (After taking ESPN out) where he will likely read it. He's slipped up a couple times so I KNOW he's been reading my Cosmo and SELF. I think I do push way sometimes..and alot of times its just because I need solitude and I never have any alone time anymore. Of cours after I've pushed I have to try and reel in. Poor boy, I'll try and stop treating him like a fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2000 Report Share Posted February 12, 2000 In a message dated 2/12/00 4:32:48 PM Central Standard Time, etcarroll@... writes: << What I get from my dear, sweet husband in one day is better than everything I got from all my boyfriends over the years. I'm not talking about flowers, but about thoughtfulness (today, e.g., he cleaned up dog poop outside because of my cold without asking). You can always buy YOURSELF flowers or jewelry, ... . Oh, by the way, zoloft/prozac has practically killed my libido, too, but the trade is well worth it. Elena >> Wow! Elena it sounds like we do have a lot in common! I dont need jewelry...I always loose it. I just want the $3.50 bouquet at the grocery store. I'm just such an old fashoned romantic.....I cry when I see all the old cheesy movies where the only " sex " is a big passionate kiss at the end. I'm definitly going to have to do something about the zoloft/libido thing. Seriously, even when I do notice a cute other guy I probably wouldnt have the energy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2000 Report Share Posted February 12, 2000 In a message dated 02/13/2000 5:22:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, GalofGOP@... writes: << I think I do push way sometimes..and alot of times its just because I need solitude and I never have any alone time anymore. Of cours after I've pushed I have to try and reel in. Poor boy, I'll try and stop treating him like a fish >> LOL This just cracked me up!!! Barb who wonders what kind of fish now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2000 Report Share Posted February 13, 2000 In a message dated 2/13/00 9:10:17 AM Central Standard Time, srferron@... writes: << Elena and , I'm fortunate in that zoloft doesn't affect me in that way. However, I know that the company that manufactures welbutrin goes out of its way to make a big point that welbutrin does not inhibit sexual desire/functioning. It's not an SSRI like zoloft, prozac, effexor and paxil...it's in another " class " of antidepressants...but it might be worth discussing the pros and cons of welbutrin with your docs. ;-) F >> I think Welbutrin is a MAOI Inhabitor. It has alot of contradictions with other drugs unlike the SSRI class. I will talk to my doctor though about this. With my previous doctor he put me on Celexa which supposedly doesnt give you any problems but it did and it didn't help my depression at all. I'm about to go back on the pill so I can regulate my terrible cycle and I've read that some help increase libido to counteract the effects of anti-depressents. I will need to do something, I dont want my honeymoon to be me wanting to watch Conan O'Brien more than anything else ;-) Well..hmm Conan is pretty cute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2000 Report Share Posted February 13, 2000 In a message dated 2/13/00 5:31:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, GalofGOP@... writes: << I'm definitly going to have to do something about the zoloft/libido thing. Seriously, even when I do notice a cute other guy I probably wouldnt have the energy. >> I have the same problem and I am not on any kind of medication. Yikes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2000 Report Share Posted February 13, 2000 Elena and , I'm fortunate in that zoloft doesn't affect me in that way. However, I know that the company that manufactures welbutrin goes out of its way to make a big point that welbutrin does not inhibit sexual desire/functioning. It's not an SSRI like zoloft, prozac, effexor and paxil...it's in another " class " of antidepressants...but it might be worth discussing the pros and cons of welbutrin with your docs. ;-) F galofgo-@... wrote: original article:tae-bo_on/?start=11494 > In a message dated 2/12/00 4:32:48 PM Central Standard Time, > etcarroll@... writes: > > << > What I get from my dear, sweet husband in one day is better than > everything I got from all my boyfriends over the years. I'm not talking > about flowers, but about thoughtfulness (today, e.g., he cleaned up dog > poop outside because of my cold without asking). You can always buy > YOURSELF flowers or jewelry, ... . Oh, by the way, zoloft/prozac has > practically killed my libido, too, but the trade is well worth it. > > Elena > >> > > > Wow! Elena it sounds like we do have a lot in common! > > I dont need jewelry...I always loose it. I just want the $3.50 bouquet at > the grocery store. I'm just such an old fashoned romantic.....I cry when I > see all the old cheesy movies where the only " sex " is a big passionate kiss > at the end. > > I'm definitly going to have to do something about the zoloft/libido thing. > Seriously, even when I do notice a cute other guy I probably wouldnt have the > energy. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2000 Report Share Posted February 13, 2000 In a message dated 02/13/2000 2:41:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, mmgraves@... writes: << I really realize how great of a guy Mike is, for staying with me, but also he continues to amaze me in that he allows this guy to come into our apartment and he talks with him and shakes his hand and doesn't have any resentment towards him. I think it takes a strong man to do that. Sorry if this was out of line or anything, but like I said I kept reading that line froma message and I wanted to share what I was feeling. >> gosh, he's a SAINT!!!! Barb who figures he chalked it up to your age difference and knew it was a one time experience and a learning experience at that AKA: POMBarb, Mad-Dame Yenta, Tae-Bo Barb " You can lead a horse to water but cannot make him drink " so horsemom2 was the perfect addy for me cuz my son is one stubborn horse <A HREF= " http://hometown.aol.com/horsemom2/myhomepage/index.html " >Barb's Places on the web</A> don't forget to *vote for* this site once a day from each browser <A HREF= " http://www.stankirsch.com/ " >Stan Kirsch - My Official Website - Welcome!</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2000 Report Share Posted February 13, 2000 In a message dated 02/13/2000 2:41:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, mmgraves@... writes: << I really realize how great of a guy Mike is, for staying with me, but also he continues to amaze me in that he allows this guy to come into our apartment and he talks with him and shakes his hand and doesn't have any resentment towards him. I think it takes a strong man to do that. Sorry if this was out of line or anything, but like I said I kept reading that line froma message and I wanted to share what I was feeling. >> gosh, he's a SAINT!!!! Barb who figures he chalked it up to your age difference and knew it was a one time experience and a learning experience at that AKA: POMBarb, Mad-Dame Yenta, Tae-Bo Barb " You can lead a horse to water but cannot make him drink " so horsemom2 was the perfect addy for me cuz my son is one stubborn horse <A HREF= " http://hometown.aol.com/horsemom2/myhomepage/index.html " >Barb's Places on the web</A> don't forget to *vote for* this site once a day from each browser <A HREF= " http://www.stankirsch.com/ " >Stan Kirsch - My Official Website - Welcome!</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2000 Report Share Posted February 13, 2000 In a message dated 2/13/00 9:10:17 AM Central Standard Time, srferron@... > writes: > > Elena and , > > I'm fortunate in that zoloft doesn't affect me in that way. However, I > know that the company that manufactures welbutrin goes out of its way > to make a big point that welbutrin does not inhibit sexual > desire/functioning. It's not an SSRI like zoloft, prozac, effexor and > paxil...it's in another " class " of antidepressants...but it might be > worth discussing the pros and cons of welbutrin with your docs. > > F, I tried Wellbutrin for just that purpose and it was a disaster for me. When Amy described her moods the other day, I thought: that was me on Wellbutrin. I was on a rollercoaster. Then, I got shingles. The doctor doesn't think that the Wellbutrin triggered it, but I do. My nervous system was in such a mess from going off zoloft and trying the Wellbutrin. Most importantly, the wellbutrin didn't help my back pain like zoloft/prozac do. So, I just have to cross my fingers (or legs?) for the next antidepressant. Elena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2000 Report Share Posted February 13, 2000 I have read this a few times over the past few days, cause it stays in a message for awhile. But I keep thinking about it cause it is just there. I know exactly what you mean Barb by looking and touching are two different things. Now I do anyways. Hubby and I have been married for just a little over 5 years now and at the beginning of January I had sex with another guy. It was one of those things that just happened, and I am sorry that I did it, but one goodthing that came out of it all was that Mike and I's relationship is stronger because of it. I really realize how great of a guy Mike is, for staying with me, but also he continues to amaze me in that he allows this guy to come into our apartment and he talks with him and shakes his hand and doesn't have any resentment towards him. I think it takes a strong man to do that. Sorry if this was out of line or anything, but like I said I kept reading that line froma message and I wanted to share what I was feeling. > Looking/fantasizing and touching are two different response > just Look and Dream without Touching > > Barb > who is still human and still responds to a good looking guy but never touches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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