Re: Quick question...

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On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:43:27 -0500 " The Kramer Family "

<nmkramer@...> writes:

> ,

>

> I saw your note on your return to work and am really happy for you.

> Congrats!

>

> I haven't been able to keep up with the autism treatment group, but I

> do seem

> to recall that you chelated continuously. Is that correct - no

> on/off days?

> That would make the most sense to me.

>

> Thanks and best wishes for health, Kramer

>

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> I've been reading a lot about Asperger's recently, and a LOT of the

characteristics fit my daughter to a " T " , others do not, but there is one thing

that has always gone on, and persisted to this day (and she's 15), and it is

this: She has a huge aversion to calling people by name. She will not say

their name, even though she knows it. Has anyone seen this in their child?

My understanding from my child's autism testing is that this is a standard

symptom evaluators look for. So, your daughter is definitely not alone. My

understanding about it is that it has to do with social skills--they don't

realize they need to say someone's name for them to know they are talking to

them or just to be polite. I like the one person's response though--maybe they

are uncomfortable about it for some reason. You might try very explicitly

explaining to her that sometimes people need to hear their name to understand

they are being spoken to, or that sometimes people just like to hear their

names. To be honest, this is one of those things that, when I try to explain it

to my son, he doesn't believe me. I've come to conclude it is one of those

things he's going to have to figure out on his own, hear it from more people, or

something.

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My son too has had a lot of trouble putting faces to names. After reading up on some research, I discovered that people with autism tend to look at the features outside the face- the hair, shape of the head, height of the face. They don't look at the face itself. It's related to avoiding eye contact. So they don't recognize people by their faces, instead by the hair, shape of the head, etc. So it's much easier to get names wrong because people are more likely to have these features in common. Reggi Levinreggi@...

From: baneline1 <baneline1@...> Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 10:36:08 AMSubject: ( ) Re: quick question...

My son is 11. He has an aunt that he sees several times a month that he has known all his life. Until about 6 months ago he called her "Kaitlyns Mom" we would remind him her name was but it just never took. I don't know if it is a processing thing or an assoication or what but he has always had a very difficult time with names. Mostly I just think that it is unimportant to him. Names go to identity and he doesn't really focus on individual identities it is more about what he assoicates that person with. Vickie B>> I've been reading a lot about Asperger's recently, and a LOT of the characteristics fit my daughter to a "T", others do not, but there is one thing that has always gone on, and

persisted to this day (and she's 15), and it is this: She has a huge aversion to calling people by name. She will not say their name, even though she knows it. Has anyone seen this in their child? She will (now) call her one friend by name, but if you ask her who she had lunch with, or ask her to say the name of some of my friends, she will not do it. When she was younger, it literally took 3 years before she would either say, or call my (then) SO and our other friend by name. > > I'm just really curious about it, as when I ask her, I get the standard response "I don't know". And, I've come to accept that she may not know. > > Any ideas?>

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In Elder Robison's memoir " Look me in the Eye " he mentions that he never

called anyone by their given name but would instead name them himself and that

is what they were called from that point forward. For instance, his first wife

is Unit 1 and his second wife is affectionately called Unit 2.

I'm sure your daughter recognizes these people and has internally labeled them

in her mind. You might pose the question, " Who is that? " or " What do you call

that person? " and see if you get an interesting answer.

http://www.johnrobison.com/about_john.asp

>

> I've been reading a lot about Asperger's recently, and a LOT of the

characteristics fit my daughter to a " T " , others do not, but there is one thing

that has always gone on, and persisted to this day (and she's 15), and it is

this: She has a huge aversion to calling people by name. She will not say

their name, even though she knows it. Has anyone seen this in their child? She

will (now) call her one friend by name, but if you ask her who she had lunch

with, or ask her to say the name of some of my friends, she will not do it.

When she was younger, it literally took 3 years before she would either say, or

call my (then) SO and our other friend by name.

>

> I'm just really curious about it, as when I ask her, I get the standard

response " I don't know " . And, I've come to accept that she may not know.

>

> Any ideas?

>

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My son age 5, calls us (his parents) and Patty. Other people get a real kick out of it or some say that it sounds disrespectful. I will tell him sometimes you can call me Mommy and he will but then the next time it is Patty again. It's not a battle that I want to fight so I don't make an issue out of it, just think it is kind of funny...

Patty , Blaise's mom

From: baneline1 <baneline1@...>Subject: ( ) Re: quick question... Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 7:36 AM

My son is 11. He has an aunt that he sees several times a month that he has known all his life. Until about 6 months ago he called her "Kaitlyns Mom" we would remind him her name was but it just never took.

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My son does a mixture of all these things, when he speaks to his friends mum he says, excuse me Elies Mum, I get a mixture of Lorraine, Mum, Mummy, Momma. When we go bowling he enjoys picking a different name for himself, frequently introduces himself to people as Lancaster, its a good name, but his real name is Gregor Brown. He is very precise with school mates names, if you don't say full name correctly he picks up on it it. I don't have a problem with any of it.

From: baneline1 <baneline1msn (DOT) com>Subject: ( ) Re: quick question... Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 7:36 AM

My son is 11. He has an aunt that he sees several times a month that he has known all his life. Until about 6 months ago he called her "Kaitlyns Mom" we would remind him her name was but it just never took.

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When Beth was small we painted the outside

of our house a striking deep red (to cover the very depressing mud brown of the

previous owners) and so we lived at the Red House. We had friends who had painted their

windows and front door blue – so they became the Blue House. However although she referred to it as

the Blue House, we could never saying that was where we were going… so we

would say we were going to see “Aunty Stel” or “ and

JJ” (their kids). For Beth

this was never enough – we were going to see “Aunty Stel, Uncle

Andy, , JJ and Isabel” and she would never permit it to be

abbreviated to just one of the family or just “the Blue House” by

anyone other than herself!!!!!

She also frequently refers to herself as “the

Gran-daughter of a minister” and all friends are referred to by their

first and middle names a lot of the time. All toys and pets have middle names as

well as the surnamel!!!

But what makes me laugh the most –

for all her convoluted names and insistence on the usage, she tries

periodically to talk in abbreviated speech using only the first letters of the

words. For example “s,I,f,t,b?” means “shall I feed the bunny?”. I have refused to play along with this

and make her say the full words but she hates the “waste of breath”

in saying it in a way we can all understand. And she despises anything verbal being

repeated as it is “such a waste”!!! I normally point out that if she was

already doing the requested instruction, I wouldn’t need to repeat the

request…

I think you have to retain a sense of

humour or you really would go mad.

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Re: quick question...

My son does a mixture of all these things, when he

speaks to his friends mum he says, excuse me Elies Mum, I get a mixture of

Lorraine, Mum, Mummy, Momma. When we go bowling he enjoys picking a different

name for himself, frequently introduces himself to people as

Lancaster, its a good name, but his real name is Gregor Brown. He is very

precise with school mates names, if you don't say full name correctly he

picks up on it it. I don't have a problem with any of it.

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Subject: ( ) Re: quick question...

Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 7:36 AM

My son is 11. He has an aunt that he sees several

times a month that he has known all his life. Until about 6 months ago he

called her " Kaitlyns Mom " we would remind him her name was

but it just never took.

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On May 9, 6:16am, " oneplaceforspecialneeds " wrote:

} In Elder Robison's memoir " Look me in the Eye " he mentions that he nev=

} er called anyone by their given name but would instead name them himself an=

} d that is what they were called from that point forward. For instance, his=

} first wife is Unit 1 and his second wife is affectionately called Unit 2.

I have an adult Aspie friend. I told her that after my son had had

a cookie she baked, he said " I'm going to call her Miss Good Cookie. "

She was very amused and said it was just the sort of thing she did

herself.

} I'm sure your daughter recognizes these people and has internally labeled t=

} hem in her mind. You might pose the question, " Who is that? " or " What do y=

} ou call that person? " and see if you get an interesting answer.

That may or may not be true. My son definitely has trouble recognizing

people, especially out of usual context. Both my husband and I have

the same problem, actually.

Willa

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On May 9, 8:20pm, " a " wrote:

} " Aunty Stel " or " and JJ " (their kids). For Beth this was

} never enough - we were going to see " Aunty Stel, Uncle Andy, ,

} JJ and Isabel " and she would never permit it to be abbreviated to just

} one of the family or just " the Blue House " by anyone other than

} herself!!!!!

Bam is very precise about the names of things. He doesn't have

a glass of soda, he has a glass of caffiene-free diet Coke! The

other day, I offered his babysitter a glass of Sprite and he

quickly pointed out that it was *not* Sprite, it was Sunny Select

Lemon-Lime!

Willa

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me too...it was SOOO embarrassing when my neighbour spoke to me at the garbage cans and first i did´nt recognize her....she lives above me..............I met her today too in a shop and NOW I recognized her...happens to me very often,indeed!

in Sweden--- Den lör 2009-09-12 skrev Willa Hunt <willaful@...>:

Från: Willa Hunt <willaful@...>Ämne: Re: ( ) Re: quick question...Till: Datum: lördag 12 september 2009 08.01

On May 9, 6:16am, "oneplaceforspecial needs" wrote:} In Elder Robison's memoir "Look me in the Eye" he mentions that he nev=} er called anyone by their given name but would instead name them himself an=} d that is what they were called from that point forward. For instance, his=} first wife is Unit 1 and his second wife is affectionately called Unit 2.I have an adult Aspie friend. I told her that after my son had hada cookie she baked, he said "I'm going to call her Miss Good Cookie."She was very amused and said it was just the sort of thing she didherself.} I'm sure your daughter recognizes these people and has internally labeled t=} hem in her mind. You might pose the question, "Who is that?" or "What do y=} ou call that person?" and see if you get an interesting answer.That may or may not be true. My son definitely has trouble recognizingpeople, especially out of usual context.

Both my husband and I havethe same problem, actually.Willa

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We had this problem as well and still do to some extent. Part of it

seems to me to be a difficulty with whole/part concepts. My ds had a

lot of trouble generalizing. Some people said that their child would

name people by characteristics like house color vs. names. Again, that

would be a social skill - to note people by their given names vs. a

characteristic. It can be really cute when they are little but keep an

eye on getting them to move towards more socially acceptable names so

that they can fit in eventually and have friends. I would not be that

friendly to someone who called me, " unit 1 " really. I suppose it would

have to grow on a person. But mostly I would find it annoying. You

can say, " Yes, the red house is where lives! " to add the name to

the characteristic.

 Roxanna

" The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do

nothing. " E. Burke

RE: ( ) Re: quick question...

On May 9, 8:20pm, " a " wrote:

} " Aunty Stel " or " and JJ " (their kids). For Beth this was

} never enough - we were going to see " Aunty Stel, Uncle Andy,

,

} JJ and Isabel " and she would never permit it to be abbreviated to just

} one20of the family or just " the Blue House " by anyone other than

} herself!!!!!

Bam is very precise about the names of things. He doesn't have

a glass of soda, he has a glass of caffiene-free diet Coke! The

other day, I offered his babysitter a glass of Sprite and he

quickly pointed out that it was *not* Sprite, it was Sunny Select

Lemon-Lime!

Willa