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This is an excerpt from a paper that was handed out in Orlando.

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[ ] Re:Holmes/Cave DMSA dosage

,I'm looking forward to hearing more about Orlando and particularly as it relates to chelation protocols. A couple questions that came to mind when I read your post are 1.)Is the recommendation that El-Dahr addressed a higher dose of DMSA or a lower dose of LA or both? For example I now give 100mg DMSA/50mg LA sustained release q eight hours. So is the idea to increase the DMSA to say 200 mg (or whatever) or to lower the La to 25mg or less? See what I mean?2.) What's the rational for giving a higher ratio of DMSA to LA?Thanks for any information you can forward on this. Hope you enjoyed the weekend and learned a lot.Kathy

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and all,

We are going to start today on dmsa. Our doctor is aware of the Holmes

protocol. He is still recommending it 3 times a day. He feels it is

unnecessary to wake him up, so it will be about 6/7 hours apart. So it

sounds alot like the new protocol Amy is recommending. We are going to start

with 100 mg 3 x per day of Captomer. We will run the urine test. And we

will add the ALA after a while.

Carol G (Hunter almost 6)

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For those of you who have trouble reading s hand out, see the following version

http://www.msgexp.net/~bob/Chelation.htm

There is no change in the file.

I changed the title to remove the spaces.

Bob FisherKalamazoo, Michigan"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; it's the only thing that ever does" Margaret Mead

Re: [ ] Re:Holmes/Cave DMSA dosage

This is an excerpt from a paper that was handed out in Orlando.

(Cary, NC)persistentC@...

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I'm STUNNED! This is far from what was sent to our doctor! Did she say on what basis she has changed her protocol? By 3 times a day does she mean with meals or to divide the 24hour day in thirds? Is there any way of determining a "sensitive kid" without loading a higher dose on them and seeing if they freak out? Will this revised information be sent to all of the doctors who have been sent her former protocol?

SO many questions!

Thank you VERY much, for posing this!!!!

[ ] Re:Holmes/Cave DMSA dosage

,I'm looking forward to hearing more about Orlando and particularly as it relates to chelation protocols. A couple questions that came to mind when I read your post are 1.)Is the recommendation that El-Dahr addressed a higher dose of DMSA or a lower dose of LA or both? For example I now give 100mg DMSA/50mg LA sustained release q eight hours. So is the idea to increase the DMSA to say 200 mg (or whatever) or to lower the La to 25mg or less? See what I mean?2.) What's the rational for giving a higher ratio of DMSA to LA?Thanks for any information you can forward on this. Hope you enjoyed the weekend and learned a lot.Kathy

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In a message dated 10/18/00 12:09:15 AM Central Daylight Time, sleep@...

writes:

<< I liked the older version of slower and steadier chelation that was

not prescribed to us by our MD but that was done by the old protocols

of Andy and Amy..... I have nothing nice to say about this more is

better mentality. >>

I have to agree with this mostly because no doctor can really know what each

individual body can tolerate and how well things are eliminated. We started

with 250 mg twice a day for 20 days. It brought enormous results but also

alot of stress on his body. When we switched to the 3 on/11 off and lowered

the dosage, he did much better. I think it is wise to start all kids on

lower dosages and then gradually build up to their tolerance. That way, you

don't overwhelm a kid's system if they're very toxic or sensative. You don't

want to just stay at a very low dosage the entire time if that's not pulling

the metals well but the first few rounds of low dosage makes sense.

Now that we're moving back to DMSA, we're trying a round of 50 mg every four

hours under the theory that gently, yet constantly releasing the metals could

allow his elimination systems to be more efficient in what they remove rather

than being bombarded with big releases in two cycles. We're also doing the

sauna protocol once a day. We'll see how that does. I plan to gradually

bump up the dosage as he tolerates it.

Gaylen

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, could you post this into the files? I don't think everybody got it and it would be nice to have it handy to review.

thanks!

[ ] Re:Holmes/Cave DMSA dosage

,I'm looking forward to hearing more about Orlando and particularly as it relates to chelation protocols. A couple questions that came to mind when I read your post are 1.)Is the recommendation that El-Dahr addressed a higher dose of DMSA or a lower dose of LA or both? For example I now give 100mg DMSA/50mg LA sustained release q eight hours. So is the idea to increase the DMSA to say 200 mg (or whatever) or to lower the La to 25mg or less? See what I mean?2.) What's the rational for giving a higher ratio of DMSA to LA?Thanks for any information you can forward on this. Hope you enjoyed the weekend and learned a lot.Kathy

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