Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Margaret not many I can tell you I ask for the doctor to increase my dose as I was 4.3 and then I was 3.4 and he keep saying that it was to low but I said for him to go to the thyroid society and check the new levels recommend which he did not knew about I am waiting to go to new blood tests to in fact see what I am standing at the moment but I am not staying so high I will ask for new medication or something else investigating at the mo .... Dias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Margaret, <<He said the TSH level for someone with an identified thyroid problem (ie me) shouldn't go above 2>> That's the first time I have heard this from a UK doctor. Hopefully you can keep seeing him as he sounds as if he's on the ball....You really do need though to find out the Free t3 but I don't think you'll get that tested on the NHS. I'm on a British thyroid list and they are all on the warpath, complaining bitterly about poor inadequate thyroid diagnostic tests. at the very least, a Free t3 should be on the list of options. But after all is said and done, I wonder about the the validity of the tests anyway. Salicylates seem to skew results and I have seen very normal TSH in Vietnam vets studies but the free T4 and freeT3 are not. There is a trend for Britsh GPs to look solely at TSH so where does that get us in the end....sigh...... And I agree with you that 'lead' plays a good role too, particularly as I have in the last few days seen in some very old medical journals (1930s) that in the old days potassium iodide was used to displace 'lead' out and iodine is one of the necessary elements to convert to the important Free T3. So maybe the connection is there somewhere with 'iodine deficiencies' with a few other things thrown in for good measure:-)) like the sun. Blood lead levels are higher in the winter when the vitamin D levels are lower....... So with low levels of iodine, you have low Free T3 and the body maintains 'lead' instead of excreting it......I think..... Margaret schrieb: > > Dear , > I was at the diabetic clinic today and I asked the doctor I saw about > my TSH tests. He said the TSH level for someone with an identified > thyroid problem (ie me) shouldn't go above 2! This was news to me, > because UK docs say 5 is the upper limit usually. Mine was 3.7 in > December, so he will recommend upping the thyroxine. (I tried looking > into supporting the adrenals a while back but gave up as I couldn't > work out what to do; all I've done is buy some thyadine. I bet it's > lead that underlies the whoile problem.) > Interesting that the reference range was so low for someone with a > thyroid problem. I wonder how many GPs know this? > Margaret > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 If t3 is low, then there is not enough to enter the cell nucleus and do its job. Its also important to check t4 status. The conversion of t4 to t3 takes place in the peripheral tissues in the liver and kidneys in the presence of cortisol. If there isn't adequate amounts of cortisol (as in adrenal exhaustion), then there will be normal t4 but low free t3. Also, cytokines can block conversion of t4 to t3. This would be the case where there is rampant infection, inflammation or a cytokine storm in general. Skewed immunity especially in the presence of lead and mercury. Radhe ps: I have written up a one page summary of thyroid if anybody is interested. it is very basic info. It is hand written and I don't have a scanner, but do have a fax. > > Margaret, > > <<He said the TSH level for someone with an identified thyroid problem > (ie me) shouldn't go above 2>> > That's the first time I have heard this from a UK doctor. Hopefully you > can keep seeing him as he sounds as if he's on the ball....You really do > need though to find out the Free t3 but I don't think you'll get that > tested on the NHS. I'm on a British thyroid list and they are all on the > warpath, complaining bitterly about poor inadequate thyroid diagnostic > tests. at the very least, a Free t3 should be on the list of options. > > But after all is said and done, I wonder about the the validity of the > tests anyway. Salicylates seem to skew results and I have seen very > normal TSH in Vietnam vets studies but the free T4 and freeT3 are not. > There is a trend for Britsh GPs to look solely at TSH so where does that > get us in the end....sigh...... > > And I agree with you that 'lead' plays a good role too, particularly as > I have in the last few days seen in some very old medical journals > (1930s) that in the old days potassium iodide was used to displace > 'lead' out and iodine is one of the necessary elements to convert to the > important Free T3. So maybe the connection is there somewhere with > 'iodine deficiencies' with a few other things thrown in for good > measure:-)) like the sun. Blood lead levels are higher in the winter > when the vitamin D levels are lower....... > > So with low levels of iodine, you have low Free T3 and the body > maintains 'lead' instead of excreting it......I think..... > > > > > > > > Margaret schrieb: > > > > Dear , > > I was at the diabetic clinic today and I asked the doctor I saw about > > my TSH tests. He said the TSH level for someone with an identified > > thyroid problem (ie me) shouldn't go above 2! This was news to me, > > because UK docs say 5 is the upper limit usually. Mine was 3.7 in > > December, so he will recommend upping the thyroxine. (I tried looking > > into supporting the adrenals a while back but gave up as I couldn't > > work out what to do; all I've done is buy some thyadine. I bet it's > > lead that underlies the whoile problem.) > > Interesting that the reference range was so low for someone with a > > thyroid problem. I wonder how many GPs know this? > > Margaret > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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