Potty Training

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Gail, Oh My! Where did yoy get a potty video. I will

try anything!

Thanks,

Pam

--- GVanHouten <rjvh@...> wrote:

> Hi Mom's!

> Has anyone tried a " potty video? "

> I used one for Bobby, and Jillian, when it was their

> turn.......my kids

> love to watch videos, so they saw it amd knew all

> the songs that go with

> it...........just a thought..........I plan on

> pulling it out this

> September when and Tara are 2 1/2, thats when I

> started Jillian, I

> started Bobby at 2, being my " only " at the time, and

> Jillian was due 6

> months later...........but it worked he did

> good........

> Good luck, I know I'm not looking forward to this

> myself!

> Gail.........Bobby 7, Jillian 4 1/2, and

> Tara{Ds} 22 months

>

> http://DSyndrome.com/Multiples

>

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Thanks so much , for your advice...That was very helpful and what I

have in mind to try with Sara our spring break in March. I like the idea of

the panty fairy coming, too.

Marcia

Mom to Sara (DS) and 6 and Lucas 10

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Pam Houser wrote:

>

> Gail, Oh My! Where did yoy get a potty video. I will

> try anything!

> Thanks,

> Pam

>

I have seen them in the " Right Start catalogs " , but now that i think of

it........they are probably in the " Right Start " stores in a mall near

you!!! My kids just told me the title, " It's Potty Time! " it's corny but

effective, We think, Duke University puts it out{I think}

Good Luck, and I mean it.......I'm not looking forward to potty training

AGAIN!

Gail

> --- GVanHouten <rjvh@...> wrote:

> > Hi Mom's!

> > Has anyone tried a " potty video? "

> > I used one for Bobby, and Jillian, when it was their

> > turn.......my kids

> > love to watch videos, so they saw it amd knew all

> > the songs that go with

> > it...........just a thought..........I plan on

> > pulling it out this

> > September when and Tara are 2 1/2, thats when I

> > started Jillian, I

> > started Bobby at 2, being my " only " at the time, and

> > Jillian was due 6

> > months later...........but it worked he did

> > good........

> > Good luck, I know I'm not looking forward to this

> > myself!

> > Gail.........Bobby 7, Jillian 4 1/2, and

> > Tara{Ds} 22 months

> >

> > http://DSyndrome.com/Multiples

> >

>

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>

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Hi - Potty Trainer Extraordinaire

I HAVE to start Emma on the potty training thing but I don't think I'M ready

yet!

Love the Panty Fairy trick!!

Carolyn

Mum to on, , Emma (Ds) 4 and Nicki (Ds) 3

http://www.geocities.com/nz_mom/sykesfamily.html

[Guest guest]

LOL that is a good one! I had one mom in our local

support group tell me that she told her daughter that

" pull ups don't exist during daylight, only at night " .

It worked!

Judi

--- Carolyn Sykes <tcsykes@...> wrote:

> Hi - Potty Trainer Extraordinaire

>

> I HAVE to start Emma on the potty training thing but

> I don't think I'M ready

> yet!

>

> Love the Panty Fairy trick!!

>

> Carolyn

> Mum to on, , Emma (Ds) 4 and Nicki (Ds)

> 3

> http://www.geocities.com/nz_mom/sykesfamily.html

>

>

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LOL.... Carolyn, UCMU!!!

:)

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CYNTHIA MEDRANO

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My five year old was probably the easiest case of potty training in history.

We lived in Tucson, Az. at the time and it was like 6 a.m. and already over

100 degrees. We had been sort of starting to train him but this morning

when I went to put a diaper on him, he said, too hot for dipie mommy....and

he hasn't worn one since and he hasn't ever had an accident! Amazing. Now

my two year old, Sara, is not so easy. She 's got it now but we had plenty

of poopy pants and wet underwear. She is still wearing a diaper at night

however. Maggie will sit on the potty but the sensation of having both feet

off the ground sort of freaks her out. She will now sit there for maybe 1

minute but that is more than the 2 seconds we started with. I really think

the way to do it is to take away the diaper and let them feel wet pants. It

is very much inconvientant for awhile but it is working for us.

potty training

> Pam,

> Great link. I know many, many people that have done the one day method

> successfully. Casey, It really doesn't have to be as mean as it sounds. I

> wouldn't want to force them too much or make them cry. I would think they

> would revert back to wetting or really just say forget it. I do whatever

> seems to make their little brains click. They know it's yucky.

peed

> on the floor and I gave him a Clorox wipe to help me clean it up and he

> helped. The doll peeing is a great idea. We take bunny in with us.

> Chips are good for making a kid thirsty and I gave them stickers not candy

> treats for peeing. Some say even one M & M will work though.

>

> I have not taught to stand up and pee. only sit down so far. I

want

> him to master that and know how to poop properly first. I have let mine

run

> around this week in the underwear and tee shirt. I also have them wear

pull

> ups at nap time right now. Maybe after a week, we'll try without.

> is already controlling sleep times, but Jon isn't. I did find that they

> " hold " the poop as long as they can before saying they have to go.

> Enough about poop huh!? )

>

> Have a nice day everyone.

> Kay Tiernan- Mom to , , -ds-28 mos. old

>

>

>

> http://DSyndrome.com/Multiples

>

>

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Let me know how it goes Pam.......I still have Emma and Nicki to potty

train. Emma is going to take a while as she doesn't even realise she needs

to go yet. I can see her in pullups when she's 18......do they do pullups

in size 18yo?

Carolyn

Mum to on, , Emma (Ds) and Nicki (Ds)

www.geocities.com/nz_mom/sykesfamily.html

Re:

> That's great! Now you only have one to go to potty train.

> I start tomorrow with Hannah(DS) . Please say some prayers for me

everyone.

>

> I am determined to have her out of the goodnites she wears 24/7. No More!

> She will be wearing training panties. for now on. ( I hope ).

>

>

> Pam mom to Hannah and DS

>

>

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Caroly,

When you do decide you might want to consider a device that sets

inside the underwear and sounds an alarm when it senses first

indication of wetness. I saw it advertised in a mail order

catalogue. You can get to it on the web by going to

www.onestepahead.com then select the leaps and bounds link, from

there there was a choice for bath and potty. I am going to get

it shortly to help him from continuing to wet his pullup at night.

I will wait till his is 5 yrs, and then we will work on getting

over the wetting the bed. There has been one family in the

northern Virginia area that used it to help train their daughter

with DS. They had her trained by the age of 3yrs. Just a suggestion.

Katy

mom to 4yrs and twins and Tyler(DS) 20months

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Thanks Katy! What a great website FULL of cool stuff. I have started to

set a very loud alarm clock for Emma and it goes off every 1/2 hour. It's

her cue to go to the toilet and whether or not she does anything....she is

getting used to going to the toilet when the alarm rings. They are doing

this at school although they are not going to anymore because they are

getting 30 kids all wanting to go to the loo at the same time! LOL! So they

have to use a verbal prompt.

Thanks again for the suggestion!

Carolyn

Mum to on, , Emma (Ds) and Nicki (Ds)

www.geocities.com/nz_mom/sykesfamily.html

Re: Potty training

> Caroly,

> When you do decide you might want to consider a device that sets

> inside the underwear and sounds an alarm when it senses first

> indication of wetness. I saw it advertised in a mail order

> catalogue. You can get to it on the web by going to

> www.onestepahead.com then select the leaps and bounds link, from

> there there was a choice for bath and potty. I am going to get

> it shortly to help him from continuing to wet his pullup at night.

> I will wait till his is 5 yrs, and then we will work on getting

> over the wetting the bed. There has been one family in the

> northern Virginia area that used it to help train their daughter

> with DS. They had her trained by the age of 3yrs. Just a suggestion.

>

> Katy

> mom to 4yrs and twins and Tyler(DS) 20months

>

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>

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> http://DSyndrome.com/Multiples

>

>

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Hi Pam - We are at the beginning stages of potty training as well...what is the book that you have run accross? I would love to read it, as I am always interested in helpful tips re:potty training. Thanks in advance, and hope that you and all of the list members are having a super day )

Best, B. (mom to twins Annie and , four today!

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for Hannah! 50% trained is stunning! I am going to wait for the summer months before I start. (And other excuses). It does say to start potty training in warm weather right? Emma has been given a step to put her feet on while sitting on the toilet but she is still scared to death. PLUS I have to make the squeezy face everytime for her.....it's giving me wrinkles for crying out loud!

:-)

CarolynMum to on, , Emma (Ds) and Nicki (Ds)www.geocities.com/nz_mom/sykesfamily.html

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Hi ,

Happy Birthday to Annie and !!

The title of the book is Toilet Training In Less Than A Day. By Dr. Azrin and Dr. Foxx.

It was recommended to me by another mother with a child with DS. It is working ok but I still can't get Hannah to tell me when she needs to go pee. The object of the training method is to get htme to go by theirself and to do all of the toileting alone. Hannah is not ready for all of it but I am determined to get her out of these good nites!

I recommend you buy the book and read it. There is a lot of things you need to do to get them ready first before you start.

Pam mom to Hannah and age 6 with DS

Re: Potty Training

Hi Pam - We are at the beginning stages of potty training as well...what is the book that you have run accross? I would love to read it, as I am always interested in helpful tips re:potty training. Thanks in advance, and hope that you and all of the list members are having a super day ) Best, B. (mom to twins Annie and , four today! http://DSyndrome.com/Multiples

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WTG Hannah!! Next you can come to our house and train

Sam and ! LOL!!

Judi

--- Pam Houser <phouser@...> wrote:

> Hi All, I thought I would update you on Hannah's

> potty training. She is doing sooo good! Yesterday

> she peed in the potty more than in her pants. Also

> instead of just sitting there for 5 or 10 minutes

> waiting to pee pee she just sats down pees and gets

> up. We are making good progress. I am so happy for

> her and me!

>

> Pam mom to Hannah and age 6 with DS

>

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Awesome! Hannah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!See I prayed for you Pam!!!!!!

Gail

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Thanks Gail......for the prayers. He heard you.

She has had only one accident today and that was poop. Even regular kids

don't get that part for a while. She is doing great and it's the third day!

I am so excited (can't you tell) !

How was your trip??

Pam mom to Hannah and age 6 with DS

Re: Potty Training

> Awesome! Hannah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!See I prayed for you Pam!!!!!!

> Gail

>

>

> http://DSyndrome.com/Multiples

>

>

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Way to go Hannah!! I hope Landon is that easy to

train!! Congrats mommy!! mom to Landon (Ds) and

Ashton 3 years

--- Pam Houser <phouser@...> wrote:

> Hi All, I thought I would update you on Hannah's

> potty training. She is doing sooo good! Yesterday

> she peed in the potty more than in her pants. Also

> instead of just sitting there for 5 or 10 minutes

> waiting to pee pee she just sats down pees and gets

> up. We are making good progress. I am so happy for

> her and me!

>

> Pam mom to Hannah and age 6 with DS

>

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YAY for you too !! Fantastic....and you get icecream too!

Awww you guys......I need to start potty training the girls - you are

inspiring me......but........DO I GOTTA?????? Who would have thought bodily

functions could bring so much joy? :-)

Love

Carolyn

Mum to on, , Emma (Ds) and Nicki (Ds)

www.geocities.com/nz_mom/sykesfamily.html

Potty training

> We had big excitement this weekend too! went poop in the big

toilet

> like his sister . He did it for dad while reading a book! Too

> funny. We made a big deal out of it and we all went out for ice cream

> (mainly because it has been raining for days straight and we wanted to get

> out.)

> It took him two weeks to do it. Now they are both going on their own

pretty

> regularly. Just have to remind them.

>

> For others starting, I definitely recommend doing both. Mine go potty

> together all the time. Follow each other or me if I have to go. They watch

> and learn! They have now started racing up the stairs saying " me first " ,

no

> " me first " . Ugh! Better have two potties ready!! even likes to watch

> them. Of course they all like the swirling water in the toilet bowl.

>

> Gail, I say try doing them both, just don't push, but definitely act like

> she is part of the whole deal. She'll have fun flushing and washing her

> hands anyway!

> Kay Tiernan- Mom to , , -ds-28 mos. old

>

> http://DSyndrome.com/Multiples

>

>

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Pam wrote: "Also a friend of mine told me a little trick for potty training boys. Put big plastic bugs in the toilet or potty and have them aim there pee pee at the bug. They think it is fun! lol"

Sounds like a friend of mine who uses a variation on that theme....a ping pong ball!

CarolynMum to on, , Emma (Ds) and Nicki (Ds)www.geocities.com/nz_mom/sykesfamily.html

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>

> Pam wrote: " Also a friend of mine told me a little trick for potty

> training boys. Put big plastic bugs in the toilet or potty and have them

> aim there pee pee at the bug. They think it is fun! lol "

>

>

> Sounds like a friend of mine who uses a variation on that theme....a ping

> pong ball!

>

Plastic bugs??? Ping pong balls?? Then you have to fish them out of the

pee-pee water before flushing?? NO THANK YOU!

I used cheerios (they float too) with a few boys that I baby-sit. That

worked well and they are flushable!

Cheers!

Sara

[Guest guest]

Have you ever tried to flsuh a ping pong ball? It's almost impossible! LOL

Carolyn

Mum to on, , Emma (Ds) and Nicki (Ds)

www.geocities.com/nz_mom/sykesfamily.html

Re: Potty Training

>

> Plastic bugs??? Ping pong balls?? Then you have to fish them out of the

> pee-pee water before flushing?? NO THANK YOU!

>

> I used cheerios (they float too) with a few boys that I baby-sit. That

> worked well and they are flushable!

>

> Cheers!

> Sara

>

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> http://DSyndrome.com/Multiples

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[Guest guest]

Cool idea Sara, I'll try it with !

Although this was an extremely tough day{guess I'm getting too old for

this} never did make it into the toilet at all, he had " accidents "

in his cotton training pants all day, when bath time came, he still

wouldn't go, he got into the WARM bath water, and whola.....he started

going, I yelled " no , HONEY, in the toilet " while I wisked him out of

the tub mid-stream, and he stopped, then finished the job standing at

the toilet!!!!!!!!!!!!! So today was the 1st time used the toilet!

I now know that I'll wait to train Tara.......it's all I can do to stay

on top of one training toddler, plus my older two kids, and Tara!!!!

I just got my shower in now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gail....Bobby, Jillian, and Tara

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<Wasn't there someone in the group who had some great success with their

child

at a later age (like 11-13 years)? I ask, since we are maintaining hope for

potty-training and speech.>

Hello out there in the world

I'm still here (in Switzerland which is presently covered with snow ) I'm

mainly reading your messages but am not really in the position to contribute

a lot , however on potty training I can assure you not to give up too soon.

Fabio managed at the age of 11 years after years of toilet training putting

him on the toilet every hour (at school and at home).

Greetings from Switzerland

with Tanja 13,5, Fabio 11,5 ds/asd and Elena 9

(and one husband)

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Have you tried writing a social story about going potty? REading it a few

times and letting him know what options he has might help.

I find that it helps to give transition warning. Meaning that I don't just

walk over and say NOW we are going potty! But in the beginning I would show

him a visual transitiobn schedule of what was happening. I would pick a

natural break in activities that he understood: " when the video is over,

we'll go potty. " while pointing at the symbol we used for bathroom.

I don't know Gavin too well, but getting into a power struggle over it

probably isn't going to make things go faster. And yet, for some kids,

tremendous refusal is a part of the deal for anything. I suspect right now

Gavin equates those toilets with a lot of stress (he feels everyone else's

stress over this) and battling. Totally negative experience. Who would want

to?

How do you encourage Gavin to do other things?

You could try keeping a very very favorite thing on the toilet. He has to

go to the toilet to get the thing. Don't make him do anything, just let him

go get it. For Andy this would be a jump rope or clacker. I would put them

in a clear plastic jar with a lid and put it on top of the toilet. When he

wants it, he has to go near the toilet. Then you could have him just sit on

the closed toilet to get the preferred item, then sit on the open toilet

wiht his clothes on.....you get the picture. these are very very small steps.

If he likes books, try the " Everyone Poops " book or make your own " everyone

poops " with photos of people/things he knows (yoru dog, you, whatever.

Don't make it too risque though!

I would probably back off for 3 weeks and in the meantime create some

photographic pre-teaching and social stories so Gavin understands what is

going on. It's scary to be asked to do things when you don't understand

what the reason is. Or if it's not communicated to you with enough time for

you to undrestand and all of a sudden you are beign pushed around (I think

that's how Andy felt) or when your interrupted out of the blue to do

something but you ahve no idea what it is all about or why it has to be

*right now*.

It is hard when you are in the middle of it to take a look at what your

child may be feeling. I'm really good at it about 3 hours later. But it has

been really helpful for me to try and see what Andy is taking in. Sometimes

that insight comes from watching other people working wiht Andy--to see

where it breaks down or seeing the confusion on his face when there isn't

enough waiting time.

Take it slow. Andy wasn't " trip trained " until he was 9 or 10. He still

needs assistance in the BR, but he's finally starting to tell US when he

needs to go. That's huge. I think he was totally traumatized for a while,

so him telilng us on his own with no prompting that he needs help in the

bathroom is really great.

Hang in there. I think we all understand. I certainly can attest to

cleaning up my share of brown walls and counters r........ in fact, we just

refinished our floors because the areas where he used to have accidents the

most had lost all their finish. Hmm.

Joan

At 03:50 AM 8/3/2003 +0000, you wrote:

>I just read through the potty training articles in the files and

>while there are some great tips, nothing dealing with what we're

>going through. Gavin acts as if he is afraid of the potty. When we

>take him to the bathroom, he throws one heck of a tantrum. We have

>tried both the little potty and also the seat on the big potty. Both

>get the same reaction. We can't get to step one without getting

>passed this issue. LOL We have been trying off and and for about 5

>months.Has anyone experienced this or have any suggestions?

>

>Traci and Gavin, age 4

>

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In a message dated 8/3/03 7:13:35 AM Central Daylight Time,

writes:

> Have you tried writing a social story about going potty? REading it a few

> times and letting him know what options he has might help.

>

> I find that it helps to give transition warning. Meaning that I don't just

> walk over and say NOW we are going potty! But in the beginning I would show

> him a visual transitiobn schedule of what was happening. I would pick a

> natural break in activities that he understood: " when the video is over,

> we'll go potty. " while pointing at the symbol we used for bathroom.

>

> I don't know Gavin too well, but getting into a power struggle over it

> probably isn't going to make things go faster. And yet, for some kids,

> tremendous refusal is a part of the deal for anything. I suspect right now

> Gavin equates those toilets with a lot of stress (he feels everyone else's

> stress over this) and battling. Totally negative experience. Who would want

> to?

>

> How do you encourage Gavin to do other things?

>

> You could try keeping a very very favorite thing on the toilet. He has to

> go to the toilet to get the thing. Don't make him do anything, just let him

> go get it. For Andy this would be a jump rope or clacker. I would put them

> in a clear plastic jar with a lid and put it on top of the toilet. When he

> wants it, he has to go near the toilet. Then you could have him just sit on

> the closed toilet to get the preferred item, then sit on the open toilet

> wiht his clothes on.....you get the picture. these are very very small

> steps.

>

> If he likes books, try the " Everyone Poops " book or make your own " everyone

> poops " with photos of people/things he knows (yoru dog, you, whatever.

> Don't make it too risque though!

>

> I would probably back off for 3 weeks and in the meantime create some

> photographic pre-teaching and social stories so Gavin understands what is

> going on. It's scary to be asked to do things when you don't understand

> what the reason is. Or if it's not communicated to you with enough time for

> you to undrestand and all of a sudden you are beign pushed around (I think

> that's how Andy felt) or when your interrupted out of the blue to do

> something but you ahve no idea what it is all about or why it has to be

> *right now*.

>

> It is hard when you are in the middle of it to take a look at what your

> child may be feeling. I'm really good at it about 3 hours later. But it has

> been really helpful for me to try and see what Andy is taking in. Sometimes

> that insight comes from watching other people working wiht Andy--to see

> where it breaks down or seeing the confusion on his face when there isn't

> enough waiting time.

>

> Take it slow. Andy wasn't " trip trained " until he was 9 or 10. He still

> needs assistance in the BR, but he's finally starting to tell US when he

> needs to go. That's huge. I think he was totally traumatized for a while,

> so him telilng us on his own with no prompting that he needs help in the

> bathroom is really great.

>

> Hang in there. I think we all understand. I certainly can attest to

> cleaning up my share of brown walls and counters r........ in fact, we just

> refinished our floors because the areas where he used to have accidents the

> most had lost all their finish. Hmm.

>

> Joan

I'm right there with Joan. We used a video called " Potty time " that seemed to

get engaged in the process. Oh the tantrums whenever I would even

mention the bathroom. I used the reinforcers for staying dry and really

encouraged

him to stay dry and reminded him that using the toilet would keep his pants

dry. Even now we make it a part of his schedule (only two or three times a day)

and in between I will say " You are a big guy so you will use the bathroom when

you need to " . That usually gets him running to the bathroom.

The toileting issue was worsened by his tactile sensitivity. So many things

to consider.

Karyn