Re: Re: Shriner's billing/Kaiser Insurance

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Thanks for the reply; I was quite worried because .... I just started with Kaiser and at the last minute I changed from Blue cross/blue shield ..anyway i will stillbe meeting with the Kaiser ortho and what ever info I gew i willshare it too.

Eiddelyn will be there on Jan 31 anybody scheduled on this date?

Ethelyn

From: NIck Guthe <nickguthe@...>Subject: Re: Re: Shriner's billing/Kaiser Insuranceinfantile scoliosis treatment Date: Sunday, January 23, 2011, 12:46 AM

Absolutely, Shriners Hospitals must keep open, they are a rare jewel in the medical system. Nick will hopefully be shooting a PSA for our LA Shriners this year (he offered his directing/writing services free of charge and they've had meetings), and maybe it will lead to a national one- hopefully. He wants a very visible campaign like St. Jude's does so well. And I'm thrilled for them to bill our ins., it's long overdue.

Heidi, Bexon's Mommy, (3.5 years old, in 9th cast from Salt Lake City Shriners, currently down from 63 degrees to 14.6 in cast. You can read Bexon's Story on www.GirltoMom.com)

From: <mariaf305@...>infantile scoliosis treatment Sent: Sat, January 22, 2011 8:38:21 AMSubject: Re: Shriner's billing/Kaiser Insurance

I just wanted to share a few things on this topic - back in July, a pilot group of Shriners hospitals began accepting insurance from families who have it. (This is the same way St. Jude's has always operated. They will take insurance if it is available, but no child will ever be turned away because of a family's inability to pay.)IMHO, this change was long overdue. Many of us pay into our insurance plans. Employers rarely cover the entire cost in this day and age. My husband and I both pay a portion towards our respective insurance plans. So I am very happy that Shriners can recoup something from them. By the way, for one of 's recent visits, I got an EOB from my insurance carrier. They paid a very small portion back to Shriners - but it's better than nothing.The way this came about is that approximately 18 months ago, at the annual Shriners convention, the members voted on ways to help the hospitals stop losing money at such an

alarming rate. One option on the table was to close several of the hospitals. The other option was to accept insurance. A friend of mine, a Shriner who is very active in these affairs, told me if they did not take this action that within 5 or 10 years the entire hospital system would very likely have had to shut down.So while I know it is frustrating and exhausting to deal with insurance companies and all of the red tape that goes along with it, I would ask that if at all possible everyone fight hard for payment to Shriners through appeals or whatever means necessary. The reason being, as stated above, that without this additional money coming in, we could very well be facing a world without Shriners in the next decade, or certainly in our lifetimes. And that is something I know none of us wants to see.Off my soapbox now :-)> > > >From: NIck Guthe <nickguthe@...>> >Subject: Re: Shriner's billing/Kaiser Insurance> >infantile scoliosis treatment > >Date: Friday, January 21, 2011, 10:19 AM> >> >> > > >BS! I so agree, Jane, I had that insurance once and I will never go back to it. > > >> >Heidi, Bexon's Mommy, (3.5 years old, in 9th cast from Salt Lake City Shriners, > >currently down from 63 degrees to 14.6 in cast. You can read Bexon's Story on > >www.GirltoMom.com) > >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________> From: Jane Bigler <janemhar@...>> >infantile scoliosis treatment > >Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 4:19:08 PM> >Subject: Shriner's billing/Kaiser Insurance> >> > > >Hi, just got our official denial from Kaiser to cover our services at > >Shriner's. Reason: there are no services the practioners at Kaiser cannot > >provide.> >> >BS!!!> >> >Had their providers been able to do any of what services Shriner's had provided, > >I wouldnt' have sought a second opinion through Shriner's in the first place! > >Has any one had any success getting through the appeal process with Kaiser??> >> >Thanks!> > > >Jane> >> >> >>

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Thanks for the reply; I was quite worried because .... I just started with Kaiser and at the last minute I changed from Blue cross/blue shield ..anyway i will stillbe meeting with the Kaiser ortho and what ever info I gew i willshare it too.

Eiddelyn will be there on Jan 31 anybody scheduled on this date?

Ethelyn

From: NIck Guthe <nickguthe@...>Subject: Re: Re: Shriner's billing/Kaiser Insuranceinfantile scoliosis treatment Date: Sunday, January 23, 2011, 12:46 AM

Absolutely, Shriners Hospitals must keep open, they are a rare jewel in the medical system. Nick will hopefully be shooting a PSA for our LA Shriners this year (he offered his directing/writing services free of charge and they've had meetings), and maybe it will lead to a national one- hopefully. He wants a very visible campaign like St. Jude's does so well. And I'm thrilled for them to bill our ins., it's long overdue.

Heidi, Bexon's Mommy, (3.5 years old, in 9th cast from Salt Lake City Shriners, currently down from 63 degrees to 14.6 in cast. You can read Bexon's Story on www.GirltoMom.com)

From: <mariaf305@...>infantile scoliosis treatment Sent: Sat, January 22, 2011 8:38:21 AMSubject: Re: Shriner's billing/Kaiser Insurance

I just wanted to share a few things on this topic - back in July, a pilot group of Shriners hospitals began accepting insurance from families who have it. (This is the same way St. Jude's has always operated. They will take insurance if it is available, but no child will ever be turned away because of a family's inability to pay.)IMHO, this change was long overdue. Many of us pay into our insurance plans. Employers rarely cover the entire cost in this day and age. My husband and I both pay a portion towards our respective insurance plans. So I am very happy that Shriners can recoup something from them. By the way, for one of 's recent visits, I got an EOB from my insurance carrier. They paid a very small portion back to Shriners - but it's better than nothing.The way this came about is that approximately 18 months ago, at the annual Shriners convention, the members voted on ways to help the hospitals stop losing money at such an

alarming rate. One option on the table was to close several of the hospitals. The other option was to accept insurance. A friend of mine, a Shriner who is very active in these affairs, told me if they did not take this action that within 5 or 10 years the entire hospital system would very likely have had to shut down.So while I know it is frustrating and exhausting to deal with insurance companies and all of the red tape that goes along with it, I would ask that if at all possible everyone fight hard for payment to Shriners through appeals or whatever means necessary. The reason being, as stated above, that without this additional money coming in, we could very well be facing a world without Shriners in the next decade, or certainly in our lifetimes. And that is something I know none of us wants to see.Off my soapbox now :-)> > > >From: NIck Guthe <nickguthe@...>> >Subject: Re: Shriner's billing/Kaiser Insurance> >infantile scoliosis treatment > >Date: Friday, January 21, 2011, 10:19 AM> >> >> > > >BS! I so agree, Jane, I had that insurance once and I will never go back to it. > > >> >Heidi, Bexon's Mommy, (3.5 years old, in 9th cast from Salt Lake City Shriners, > >currently down from 63 degrees to 14.6 in cast. You can read Bexon's Story on > >www.GirltoMom.com) > >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________> From: Jane Bigler <janemhar@...>> >infantile scoliosis treatment > >Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 4:19:08 PM> >Subject: Shriner's billing/Kaiser Insurance> >> > > >Hi, just got our official denial from Kaiser to cover our services at > >Shriner's. Reason: there are no services the practioners at Kaiser cannot > >provide.> >> >BS!!!> >> >Had their providers been able to do any of what services Shriner's had provided, > >I wouldnt' have sought a second opinion through Shriner's in the first place! > >Has any one had any success getting through the appeal process with Kaiser??> >> >Thanks!> > > >Jane> >> >> >>

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Sadly I work for the State and well, I could choose other insurance. But, there's no way if I were to choose another that I could afford all the co-pays. I only pay $5 for office visits and $1 for prescriptions and nothing for diagnostic testing. My one voice isn't going to make a change to what Kaiser will cover for state employees. JaneFrom: radish1228 <srclancy@...>infantile scoliosis treatment Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 12:27:45 PMSubject: Re: Shriner's billing/Kaiser Insurance

Jane,

I have no words to help with Kaiser, but I can tell you I've been where you are. I have felt your anger and frustration.

Be sure to report these problems to your Human Resources representative. They have input into choosing what services are covered by your plans, and they should know the quality of service provided to their employees is not what it should be.

Blessings and hugs,

Sherry

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Thanks for sharing that !  I agree 100%.  This change was long overdue and Im happy that they can now get paid (when possible) for the top notch work performed in the Shriners Hospital Network.   The Shriners must stay open.  I cant imagine a world without them!HRH From: infantile scoliosis treatment [mailto:infantile scoliosis treatment ] On Behalf Of Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 9:38 AMinfantile scoliosis treatment Subject: Re: Shriner's billing/Kaiser Insurance I just wanted to share a few things on this topic - back in July, a pilot group of Shriners hospitals began accepting insurance from families who have it. (This is the same way St. Jude's has always operated. They will take insurance if it is available, but no child will ever be turned away because of a family's inability to pay.)IMHO, this change was long overdue. Many of us pay into our insurance plans. Employers rarely cover the entire cost in this day and age. My husband and I both pay a portion towards our respective insurance plans. So I am very happy that Shriners can recoup something from them. By the way, for one of 's recent visits, I got an EOB from my insurance carrier. They paid a very small portion back to Shriners - but it's better than nothing.The way this came about is that approximately 18 months ago, at the annual Shriners convention, the members voted on ways to help the hospitals stop losing money at such an alarming rate. One option on the table was to close several of the hospitals. The other option was to accept insurance. A friend of mine, a Shriner who is very active in these affairs, told me if they did not take this action that within 5 or 10 years the entire hospital system would very likely have had to shut down.So while I know it is frustrating and exhausting to deal with insurance companies and all of the red tape that goes along with it, I would ask that if at all possible everyone fight hard for payment to Shriners through appeals or whatever means necessary. The reason being, as stated above, that without this additional money coming in, we could very well be facing a world without Shriners in the next decade, or certainly in our lifetimes. And that is something I know none of us wants to see.Off my soapbox now :-)> > > >From: NIck Guthe <nickguthe@...>> >Subject: Re: Shriner's billing/Kaiser Insurance> >infantile scoliosis treatment > >Date: Friday, January 21, 2011, 10:19 AM> >> >> > > >BS! I so agree, Jane, I had that insurance once and I will never go back to it. > > >> >Heidi, Bexon's Mommy, (3.5 years old, in 9th cast from Salt Lake City Shriners, > >currently down from 63 degrees to 14.6 in cast. You can read Bexon's Story on > >www.GirltoMom.com) > >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________> From: Jane Bigler <janemhar@...>> >infantile scoliosis treatment > >Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 4:19:08 PM> >Subject: Shriner's billing/Kaiser Insurance> >> > > >Hi, just got our official denial from Kaiser to cover our services at > >Shriner's. Reason: there are no services the practioners at Kaiser cannot > >provide.> >> >BS!!!> >> >Had their providers been able to do any of what services Shriner's had provided, > >I wouldnt' have sought a second opinion through Shriner's in the first place! > >Has any one had any success getting through the appeal process with Kaiser??> >> >Thanks!> > > >Jane> >> >> >> >>

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Cant wait to see that!! From: infantile scoliosis treatment [mailto:infantile scoliosis treatment ] On Behalf Of NIck GutheSent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 9:47 AMinfantile scoliosis treatment Subject: Re: Re: Shriner's billing/Kaiser Insurance Absolutely, Shriners Hospitals must keep open, they are a rare jewel in the medical system. Nick will hopefully be shooting a PSA for our LA Shriners this year (he offered his directing/writing services free of charge and they've had meetings), and maybe it will lead to a national one- hopefully. He wants a very visible campaign like St. Jude's does so well. And I'm thrilled for them to bill our ins., it's long overdue. Heidi, Bexon's Mommy, (3.5 years old, in 9th cast from Salt Lake City Shriners, currently down from 63 degrees to 14.6 in cast. You can read Bexon's Story on www.GirltoMom.com) From: <mariaf305@...>infantile scoliosis treatment Sent: Sat, January 22, 2011 8:38:21 AMSubject: Re: Shriner's billing/Kaiser Insurance I just wanted to share a few things on this topic - back in July, a pilot group of Shriners hospitals began accepting insurance from families who have it. (This is the same way St. Jude's has always operated. They will take insurance if it is available, but no child will ever be turned away because of a family's inability to pay.)IMHO, this change was long overdue. Many of us pay into our insurance plans. Employers rarely cover the entire cost in this day and age. My husband and I both pay a portion towards our respective insurance plans. So I am very happy that Shriners can recoup something from them. By the way, for one of 's recent visits, I got an EOB from my insurance carrier. They paid a very small portion back to Shriners - but it's better than nothing.The way this came about is that approximately 18 months ago, at the annual Shriners convention, the members voted on ways to help the hospitals stop losing money at such an alarming rate. One option on the table was to close several of the hospitals. The other option was to accept insurance. A friend of mine, a Shriner who is very active in these affairs, told me if they did not take this action that within 5 or 10 years the entire hospital system would very likely have had to shut down.So while I know it is frustrating and exhausting to deal with insurance companies and all of the red tape that goes along with it, I would ask that if at all possible everyone fight hard for payment to Shriners through appeals or whatever means necessary. The reason being, as stated above, that without this additional money coming in, we could very well be facing a world without Shriners in the next decade, or certainly in our lifetimes. And that is something I know none of us wants to see.Off my soapbox now :-)> > > >From: NIck Guthe <nickguthe@...>> >Subject: Re: Shriner's billing/Kaiser Insurance> >infantile scoliosis treatment > >Date: Friday, January 21, 2011, 10:19 AM> >> >> > > >BS! I so agree, Jane, I had that insurance once and I will never go back to it. > > >> >Heidi, Bexon's Mommy, (3.5 years old, in 9th cast from Salt Lake City Shriners, > >currently down from 63 degrees to 14.6 in cast. You can read Bexon's Story on > >www.GirltoMom.com) > >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________> From: Jane Bigler <janemhar@...>> >infantile scoliosis treatment > >Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 4:19:08 PM> >Subject: Shriner's billing/Kaiser Insurance> >> > > >Hi, just got our official denial from Kaiser to cover our services at > >Shriner's. Reason: there are no services the practioners at Kaiser cannot > >provide.> >> >BS!!!> >> >Had their providers been able to do any of what services Shriner's had provided, > >I wouldnt' have sought a second opinion through Shriner's in the first place! > >Has any one had any success getting through the appeal process with Kaiser??> >> >Thanks!> > > >Jane> >> >> >> >>

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Although I haven't been to Shriner's yet. I know what my insurance benefits are. And I will make sure that Shriner's bills them. If the doctor is in-network, then it gets paid at 100% (but might not be so much since in-network means that they are contracted and have to accept what the insurance sends). However, if the doctor is out-of-network, then my insurance company pays 70% of the charge (which might end up being more than the in-network). In any case, it's about time that the insurance pays (especially since we pay huge into the insurance).

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In a message dated 1/26/2011 8:45:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, mariaf305@... writes:

Yes, Shriners will treat the child regardless of whether or not insurance will cover their services.I didn't know much about Kaiser before, but I am really hating them right about now.> >> > Hi, just got our official denial from Kaiser to cover our services at > > Shriner's. Reason: there are no services the practioners at Kaiser cannot > > provide.> > > > BS!!!> > > > Had their providers been able to do any of what services Shriner's had provided, > > I wouldnt' have sought a second opinion through Shriner's in the first place! > > Has any one had any success getting through the appeal process with Kaiser??> > > > Thanks!> > > > Jane> >>

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About 6 years ago, my oldest son needed an implant for his deafness. He has a BAHA implant. The insurance company (we had Oxford at that time) paid 100% for the $15,000 surgery to have the hole drilled into and through my son's skull for the abutment which the external sound processor connects to. However, when it came time for the external sound processor device, they had the nerve to deny the claim for (ready for it? Make sure you're sitting down) "not medically necessary". Like, wtf? You paid for him to get the hole drilled but not for him to hear? So, you paid for a "skull piercing"? Really? I tried to appeal it and got nowhere. I worked my way up the chain at Oxford and finally got so frustrated that I snapped at the last person I spoke with and told them, "I hope the next time you go to purchase a brand new car, they tell you that the engine is not necessary and therefore is not included in the purchase of the car but you can purchase it separately." Anyhow, he did get the sound processor but not with any help from Oxford.

I hope these "insurance people" don't ever need the services that they are denying. Although, it would serve them right. There's nothing like karma.

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In a message dated 1/26/2011 8:42:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, mariaf305@... writes:

You are so right, , when you say 'it's not like we are asking for something that is unnecessary'. Do these insurance companies think we are putting our kids in casts and braces just for the fun of it??!! Makes me so angry as well. And, yes, if even one child misses the window where they can be helped and their spine can be straightened, somebody's a** belongs in jail because it certainly IS criminal!> > > From: NIck Guthe <nickguthe@...>> Subject: Re: Shriner's billing/Kaiser Insurance> infantile scoliosis treatment > Date: Friday, January 21, 2011, 10:19 AM> > > > BS! I so agree, Jane, I had that insurance once and I will never go back to it. > > > > Heidi, Bexon's Mommy, (3.5 years old, in 9th cast from Salt Lake City Shriners, currently down from 63 degrees to 14.6 in cast. You can read Bexon's Story on www.GirltoMom.com <http://www.girltomom.com/> ) > > > > > > > _____ > > > From: Jane Bigler <janemhar@...>> infantile scoliosis treatment > Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 4:19:08 PM> Subject: Shriner's billing/Kaiser Insurance> > > > Hi, just got our official denial from Kaiser to cover our services at Shriner's. Reason: there are no services the practioners at Kaiser cannot provide.> > > > BS!!!> > > > Had their providers been able to do any of what services Shriner's had provided, I wouldnt' have sought a second opinion through Shriner's in the first place! Has any one had any success getting through the appeal process with Kaiser??> > > > Thanks!> > > Jane>

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My son is on medicaid so I'm sure Shriners won't get much from them. But one thing is for sure....I always give to the Shriners when I see them out collecting money. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: "" <mariaf305@...>Sender: infantile scoliosis treatment Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:45:32 -0000<infantile scoliosis treatment >Reply infantile scoliosis treatment Subject: Re: Shriner's billing/Kaiser Insurance Yes, Shriners will treat the child regardless of whether or not insurance will cover their services.I didn't know much about Kaiser before, but I am really hating them right about now.> >> > Hi, just got our official denial from Kaiser to cover our services at > > Shriner's.  Reason: there are no services the practioners at Kaiser cannot > > provide.> > > > BS!!!> > > > Had their providers been able to do any of what services Shriner's had provided, > > I wouldnt' have sought a second opinion through Shriner's in the first place!  > > Has any one had any success getting through the appeal process with Kaiser??> > > > Thanks!> >  > > Jane> >>

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Hi ,Thank you so much, . Yes, Nick has emailed with the head PR person in Tampa at Shriners HQ. So far unfortunately no traction there, just locally in L.A and the head of PR in SLC is also in touch. Baby steps, I guess, but we'll get there! Heidi, Bexon's Mommy, (3.5 years old, in 9th cast from Salt Lake City Shriners, currently down from 63 degrees to 14.6 in cast. You can read Bexon's Story on www.GirltoMom.com)From: <mariaf305@...>infantile scoliosis treatment Sent: Sat, January 22, 2011 6:28:47 PMSubject: Re: Shriner's billing/Kaiser Insurance

Hi Heidi,

That is wonderful about the PSA. I know that you guys do all that you can to help and really 'roll up your sleeves' so-to-speak. On behalf of and kids like him who have been helped by Shriners, a big THANK YOU for doing that.

I was wondering if you or Nick have been in touch with anyone at Shriners HQ in Tampa. I forget the name of the person in charge of their PR and Development nationwide, but I could easily get it

from my contact in Philly. Please feel free to email me (mariaf305@...) if there is anything I can do to help in this respect.

By the way guys, sorry I forgot to mention it sooner, but we just got finished watching the East West Shrine football game on TV. Lots of great PR and commercials for Shriners. I wish we would see more of that sort of thing all year long, but there are getting there, little by little.

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Hey ,Absolutely, you can also email Nick privately at NickGuthe1@... - he's the one handling all of the stuff on that end at our house. Heidi, Bexon's Mommy, (3.5 years old, in 9th cast from Salt Lake City Shriners, currently down from 63 degrees to 14.6 in cast. You can read Bexon's Story on www.GirltoMom.com)From:

<mariaf305@...>infantile scoliosis treatment Sent: Thu, January 27, 2011 3:51:18 AMSubject: Re: Shriner's billing/Kaiser Insurance

Hey Heidi,

Not sure if it will help, but I'll reach out to the PR folks in Philly. They are actually the people I work most closely with - and Terry Diamond (who used to head PR for the northeast and now runs the Development department for that same region for Shriners) knows all the folks in Tampa.

Can't hurt, right? Maybe they just need a 'nudge' internally :-)

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¿Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: "" <mariaf305@...>Sender: infantile scoliosis treatment Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 00:24:54 -0000<infantile scoliosis treatment >Reply infantile scoliosis treatment Subject: Re: Shriner's billing/Kaiser Insurance Hi Heidi,I haven't forgotten about this. My friend in Philly was out of the office a day or two because of (more) snow here in the northeast, but she has now put out some feelers and will get back to me one way or the other. I'll keep you posted.> > > > > > > > > > > > >From: NIck Guthe <nickguthe@>> > > > >Subject: Re: Shriner's billing/Kaiser Insurance> > > > >infantile scoliosis treatment > > > > >Date: Friday, January 21, 2011, 10:19 AM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >ÃÆ'‚ > > > > >BS! I so agree, Jane, I had that insurance once and I will never go back > >to > >> > > > > >it. > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >Heidi, Bexon's Mommy, (3.5 years old, in 9th cast from Salt Lake City > > > >Shriners, > > > >> > > > >currently down from 63 degrees to 14.6 in cast. You can read Bexon's Story > >> > >on > > >> > > > > > > >www.GirltoMom.com) > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >________________________________> > > > From: Jane Bigler <janemhar@>> > > > >infantile scoliosis treatment > > > > >Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 4:19:08 PM> > > > >Subject: Shriner's billing/Kaiser Insurance> > > > >> > > > >ÃÆ'‚ > > > > >Hi, just got our official denial from Kaiser to cover our services at > > > > >Shriner's.ÃÆ'‚ Reason: there are no servicesÃÆ'‚ the practioners at > >Kaiser > >> > >cannot > > >> > > > >provide.> > > > >> > > > >BS!!!> > > > >> > > > >Had their providers been able to do any of what servicesÃÆ'‚ Shriner's > >had > >> > > >provided, > > > >> > > > >I wouldnt' have sought a second opinion through Shriner's in the first > > > >place!ÃÆ'‚ > > > >> > > > >Has any one had any success getting through the appealÃÆ'‚ process with > > >Kaiser??> > > > >> > > > >Thanks!> > > > >ÃÆ'‚ > > > > >Jane> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Cool , thank you. Heidi, Bexon's Mommy, (3.5 years old, in 9th cast from Salt Lake City Shriners, currently down from 63 degrees to 14.6 in cast. You can read Bexon's Story on www.GirltoMom.com)From: <mariaf305@...>infantile scoliosis treatment Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 4:24:54 PMSubject: Re: Shriner's billing/Kaiser Insurance

Hi Heidi,

I haven't forgotten about this. My friend in Philly was out of the office a day or two because of (more) snow here in the northeast, but she has now put out some feelers and will get back to me one way or the other. I'll keep you posted.

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> > > > >From: NIck Guthe <nickguthe@>

> > > > >Subject: Re: Shriner's billing/Kaiser Insurance

> > > > >infantile scoliosis treatment

> > > > >Date: Friday, January 21, 2011, 10:19 AM

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> > > > >BS! I so agree, Jane, I had that insurance once and I will never go back

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> > > > >Heidi, Bexon's Mommy, (3.5 years old, in 9th cast from Salt Lake City

> > > >Shriners,

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> > > > >currently down from 63 degrees to 14.6 in cast. You can read Bexon's Story

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> > > > >www.GirltoMom.com)

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> > > > From: Jane Bigler <janemhar@>

> > > > >infantile scoliosis treatment

> > > > >Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 4:19:08 PM

> > > > >Subject: Shriner's billing/Kaiser Insurance

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> > > > >ÃÆ'‚

> > > > >Hi, just got our official denial from Kaiser to cover our services at

> > > > >Shriner's.ÃÆ'‚ Reason: there are no servicesÃÆ'‚ the practioners at

> >Kaiser

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> > >cannot

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> > > > >provide.

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> > > > >BS!!!

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> > > > >Had their providers been able to do any of what servicesÃÆ'‚ Shriner's

> >had

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> > > >provided,

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> > > > >I wouldnt' have sought a second opinion through Shriner's in the first

> > > >place!ÃÆ'‚

> > > >

> > > > >Has any one had any success getting through the appealÃÆ'‚ process with

> > >Kaiser??

> > > > >

> > > > >Thanks!

> > > > >ÃÆ'‚

> > > > >Jane

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