Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Vicky, I can't find your post anywhere but do I remember correctly that or was it had 'highish' uric acid levels? If so, just some thoughts.... I was with with my father tonight who has gout in his fingers and remembered that gout is associated with high uric acid. High uric acid is something a lot of our kids have (but not all, some have low uric acid.) then I remembered that high uric acid is associated with lead toxicity ( I found some studies/articles on Pubmed)......so I did a search and found this rather interesting website on gout... http://www.health911.com/remedies/rem_gout.htm and if you scroll down, a piece on the connection to lead toxicity... <While traditional thinking is that certain foods cause gout, recent research, however, indicates that *lead poisoning* may be another possible cause. The lead poisoning makes the aldosterone system insensitive to potassium concentration and increases the potassium content of the blood. A potassium deficiency can increase urate levels in the blood. Aldosterone is a hormone secreted by the adrenal cortex (part of the adrenal gland) that is important in the control of blood pressure and the regulation of sodium and potassium concentration. It would be very interesting for us to know how many people with gout have high blood pressure. To test for lead poisoning you can either have a hair analysis or a heavy metals blood test done. Possibly the best way to test lead levels is to have an EDTA mobilization test done. If the results indicate that you are high in lead (or other heavy metals) a heavy metals detoxification clay bath may be helpful. >>> but what really interested me was: >>>>>>It (gout) can cause extremely sore toes or other areas of the foot, and because it frequently manifests itself in the big toe, it is also known as " *gouty big toe* " . Another name is " gouty arthritis " . Gout can also appear in an ear, heel of the hand, small hand joints, ankles, knees, elbows, or wrists with inflammation, swelling and intense pain from the buildup of uric acid crystals.>>>>>> Note: < *Gout can also appear in an ear*>> I cannot remember how red ears=phenols all started on these lists but I'm beginning to wonder whether 'red ears' actually may mean gout ie build-upof uric acid crystals. When I get red ears, they're hot and tender, maybe a mild form of gout? So many of our kids have this 'red ear' thing and this may be the explanation. The phenol intolerance is part and parcel of the same thing as it has to do with the same pathway. Could you have (and anyone else reading this post) have a look at the 'Foods to Avoid' somewhere really down on the list and tell me if (or any other children) has/have problems with any of these (I'll bet red cooked tomatoes should be in there because lo and behold two days ago I got gout in my middle toes and I am positive it's from the highly concentrated tomato sauce I had recently). Just some thoughts....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Hi Iv'e been looking through my things here and not seeing the High Uric Acid but then so many tests results came through it could have been me. I sent you s test results when he first had them done, and what sticks out in my memory is the Ammonia and Protein but I'm going to keep looking and see if it is in amongs my files here. Will check out the foods to avoid list and see if it tallies. Thanks Vicky > > Vicky, > > I can't find your post anywhere but do I remember correctly that > or was it had 'highish' uric acid levels? If so, just some > thoughts.... > > I was with with my father tonight who has gout in his fingers and > remembered that gout is associated with high uric acid. High uric acid > is something a lot of our kids have (but not all, some have low uric > acid.) then I remembered that high uric acid is associated with lead > toxicity ( I found some studies/articles on Pubmed)......so I did a > search and found this rather interesting website on gout... > http://www.health911.com/remedies/rem_gout.htm > and if you scroll down, a piece on the connection to lead toxicity... > > <While traditional thinking is that certain foods cause gout, recent > research, however, indicates that *lead poisoning* may be another > possible cause. The lead poisoning makes the aldosterone system > insensitive to potassium concentration and increases the potassium > content of the blood. A potassium deficiency can increase urate levels > in the blood. Aldosterone is a hormone secreted by the adrenal cortex > (part of the adrenal gland) that is important in the control of blood > pressure and the regulation of sodium and potassium concentration. It > would be very interesting for us to know how many people with gout have > high blood pressure. To test for lead poisoning you can either have a > hair analysis or a heavy metals blood test done. Possibly the best way > to test lead levels is to have an EDTA mobilization test done. If the > results indicate that you are high in lead (or other heavy metals) a > heavy metals detoxification clay bath may be helpful. >>> > > but what really interested me was: > > >>>>>>It (gout) can cause extremely sore toes or other areas of the > foot, and because it frequently manifests itself in the big toe, it is > also known as " *gouty big toe* " . Another name is " gouty arthritis " . Gout > can also appear in an ear, heel of the hand, small hand joints, ankles, > knees, elbows, or wrists with inflammation, swelling and intense pain > from the buildup of uric acid crystals.>>>>>> > > Note: < *Gout can also appear in an ear*>> I cannot remember how red > ears=phenols all started on these lists but I'm beginning to wonder > whether 'red ears' actually may mean gout ie build-upof uric acid > crystals. When I get red ears, they're hot and tender, maybe a mild form > of gout? So many of our kids have this 'red ear' thing and this may be > the explanation. The phenol intolerance is part and parcel of the same > thing as it has to do with the same pathway. > > Could you have (and anyone else reading this post) have a look at the > 'Foods to Avoid' somewhere really down on the list and tell me if > (or any other children) has/have problems with any of these (I'll bet > red cooked tomatoes should be in there because lo and behold two days > ago I got gout in my middle toes and I am positive it's from the highly > concentrated tomato sauce I had recently). > > Just some thoughts....... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Looked at it and all on the list are a problem except poultry and veg, interesting mention of antibiotics and candida, the root of all evil, eh? Vicky > > Vicky, > > I can't find your post anywhere but do I remember correctly that > or was it had 'highish' uric acid levels? If so, just some > thoughts.... > > I was with with my father tonight who has gout in his fingers and > remembered that gout is associated with high uric acid. High uric acid > is something a lot of our kids have (but not all, some have low uric > acid.) then I remembered that high uric acid is associated with lead > toxicity ( I found some studies/articles on Pubmed)......so I did a > search and found this rather interesting website on gout... > http://www.health911.com/remedies/rem_gout.htm > and if you scroll down, a piece on the connection to lead toxicity... > > <While traditional thinking is that certain foods cause gout, recent > research, however, indicates that *lead poisoning* may be another > possible cause. The lead poisoning makes the aldosterone system > insensitive to potassium concentration and increases the potassium > content of the blood. A potassium deficiency can increase urate levels > in the blood. Aldosterone is a hormone secreted by the adrenal cortex > (part of the adrenal gland) that is important in the control of blood > pressure and the regulation of sodium and potassium concentration. It > would be very interesting for us to know how many people with gout have > high blood pressure. To test for lead poisoning you can either have a > hair analysis or a heavy metals blood test done. Possibly the best way > to test lead levels is to have an EDTA mobilization test done. If the > results indicate that you are high in lead (or other heavy metals) a > heavy metals detoxification clay bath may be helpful. >>> > > but what really interested me was: > > >>>>>>It (gout) can cause extremely sore toes or other areas of the > foot, and because it frequently manifests itself in the big toe, it is > also known as " *gouty big toe* " . Another name is " gouty arthritis " . Gout > can also appear in an ear, heel of the hand, small hand joints, ankles, > knees, elbows, or wrists with inflammation, swelling and intense pain > from the buildup of uric acid crystals.>>>>>> > > Note: < *Gout can also appear in an ear*>> I cannot remember how red > ears=phenols all started on these lists but I'm beginning to wonder > whether 'red ears' actually may mean gout ie build-upof uric acid > crystals. When I get red ears, they're hot and tender, maybe a mild form > of gout? So many of our kids have this 'red ear' thing and this may be > the explanation. The phenol intolerance is part and parcel of the same > thing as it has to do with the same pathway. > > Could you have (and anyone else reading this post) have a look at the > 'Foods to Avoid' somewhere really down on the list and tell me if > (or any other children) has/have problems with any of these (I'll bet > red cooked tomatoes should be in there because lo and behold two days > ago I got gout in my middle toes and I am positive it's from the highly > concentrated tomato sauce I had recently). > > Just some thoughts....... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 My son is on Sara's diet and had a purine restriction for about a year, per Desorgher's recommendation. I had him on a restriction for about a year and slowly added almost another ounce of his daily serving. He used to get red ears from phenols and purine rich foods. Now we no longer have that issue. I think mostly because while on this restriction, I managed to clear up his detox pathways.And lutein was a main trigger for immune reaction. I know this because I have been trying to add back things into his diet without much success, as his sensory issues seem to come back when I do. My son also used to get a strong smelling urine (ammonia) from consuming too much purine rich protein so I had to go very slowly with adding more in. Out of habit, I still usually give him these foods at dinner with the exception of peanut butter once a week (if that) at lunch time. Cauiflower asparagus and peanut butter are all rich in purine along with organ meats and some other foods that I just can't think of at the moment. From: veronicamadigan <MaddiganV@...>Autism Treatment Sent: Mon, January 18, 2010 4:46:01 PMSubject: Re: Vicky and all/lead poisoning and high uric acid and just maybe 'the red ear' syndrome..... Hi Iv'e been looking through my things here and not seeing the High Uric Acid but then so many tests results came through it could have been me.I sent you s test results when he first had them done, and what sticks out in my memory is the Ammonia and Protein but I'm going to keep looking and see if it is in amongs my files here.Will check out the foods to avoid list and see if it tallies.ThanksVicky>> Vicky,> > I can't find your post anywhere but do I remember correctly that > or was it had 'highish' uric acid levels? If so, just some > thoughts....> > I was with with my father tonight who has gout in his fingers and > remembered that gout is associated with high uric acid. High uric acid > is something a lot of our kids have (but not all, some have low uric > acid.) then I remembered that high uric acid is associated with lead > toxicity ( I found some studies/articles on Pubmed)..... .so I did a > search and found this rather interesting website on gout...> http://www.health91 1.com/remedies/ rem_gout. htm> and if you scroll down, a piece on the connection to lead toxicity...> > <While traditional thinking is that certain foods cause gout, recent > research, however, indicates that *lead poisoning* may be another > possible cause. The lead poisoning makes the aldosterone system > insensitive to potassium concentration and increases the potassium > content of the blood. A potassium deficiency can increase urate levels > in the blood. Aldosterone is a hormone secreted by the adrenal cortex > (part of the adrenal gland) that is important in the control of blood > pressure and the regulation of sodium and potassium concentration. It > would be very interesting for us to know how many people with gout have > high blood pressure. To test for lead poisoning you can either have a > hair analysis or a heavy metals blood test done. Possibly the best way > to test lead levels is to have an EDTA mobilization test done. If the > results indicate that you are high in lead (or other heavy metals) a > heavy metals detoxification clay bath may be helpful. >>>> > but what really interested me was:> > >>>>>>It (gout) can cause extremely sore toes or other areas of the > foot, and because it frequently manifests itself in the big toe, it is > also known as "*gouty big toe*". Another name is "gouty arthritis". Gout > can also appear in an ear, heel of the hand, small hand joints, ankles, > knees, elbows, or wrists with inflammation, swelling and intense pain > from the buildup of uric acid crystals.>>> >>>> > Note: < *Gout can also appear in an ear*>> I cannot remember how red > ears=phenols all started on these lists but I'm beginning to wonder > whether 'red ears' actually may mean gout ie build-upof uric acid > crystals. When I get red ears, they're hot and tender, maybe a mild form > of gout? So many of our kids have this 'red ear' thing and this may be > the explanation. The phenol intolerance is part and parcel of the same > thing as it has to do with the same pathway.> > Could you have (and anyone else reading this post) have a look at the > 'Foods to Avoid' somewhere really down on the list and tell me if > (or any other children) has/have problems with any of these (I'll bet > red cooked tomatoes should be in there because lo and behold two days > ago I got gout in my middle toes and I am positive it's from the highly > concentrated tomato sauce I had recently).> > Just some thoughts.... ...> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 i think cooked red tomatoes are ok.beef is one that is toxic so is one to avoid,our phenols went down on sarah;s diet as this inflammation we still use cooked tomatoes but give coconut water electrolte and biomaris sea water to help keep up the alkaline in stomach.we also use an alkaline water of9.5ph > > > > Vicky, > > > > I can't find your post anywhere but do I remember correctly that > > or was it had 'highish' uric acid levels? If so, just some > > thoughts.... > > > > I was with with my father tonight who has gout in his fingers and > > remembered that gout is associated with high uric acid. High uric acid > > is something a lot of our kids have (but not all, some have low uric > > acid.) then I remembered that high uric acid is associated with lead > > toxicity ( I found some studies/articles on Pubmed)..... .so I did a > > search and found this rather interesting website on gout... > > http://www.health91 1.com/remedies/ rem_gout. htm > > and if you scroll down, a piece on the connection to lead toxicity... > > > > <While traditional thinking is that certain foods cause gout, recent > > research, however, indicates that *lead poisoning* may be another > > possible cause. The lead poisoning makes the aldosterone system > > insensitive to potassium concentration and increases the potassium > > content of the blood. A potassium deficiency can increase urate levels > > in the blood. Aldosterone is a hormone secreted by the adrenal cortex > > (part of the adrenal gland) that is important in the control of blood > > pressure and the regulation of sodium and potassium concentration. It > > would be very interesting for us to know how many people with gout have > > high blood pressure. To test for lead poisoning you can either have a > > hair analysis or a heavy metals blood test done. Possibly the best way > > to test lead levels is to have an EDTA mobilization test done. If the > > results indicate that you are high in lead (or other heavy metals) a > > heavy metals detoxification clay bath may be helpful. >>> > > > > but what really interested me was: > > > > >>>>>>It (gout) can cause extremely sore toes or other areas of the > > foot, and because it frequently manifests itself in the big toe, it is > > also known as " *gouty big toe* " . Another name is " gouty arthritis " . Gout > > can also appear in an ear, heel of the hand, small hand joints, ankles, > > knees, elbows, or wrists with inflammation, swelling and intense pain > > from the buildup of uric acid crystals.>>> >>> > > > > Note: < *Gout can also appear in an ear*>> I cannot remember how red > > ears=phenols all started on these lists but I'm beginning to wonder > > whether 'red ears' actually may mean gout ie build-upof uric acid > > crystals. When I get red ears, they're hot and tender, maybe a mild form > > of gout? So many of our kids have this 'red ear' thing and this may be > > the explanation. The phenol intolerance is part and parcel of the same > > thing as it has to do with the same pathway. > > > > Could you have (and anyone else reading this post) have a look at the > > 'Foods to Avoid' somewhere really down on the list and tell me if > > (or any other children) has/have problems with any of these (I'll bet > > red cooked tomatoes should be in there because lo and behold two days > > ago I got gout in my middle toes and I am positive it's from the highly > > concentrated tomato sauce I had recently). > > > > Just some thoughts.... ... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 I have to look this up again but I think the end product of purine metabolism is uric acid..If this cannot be excreted, it ends up staying in the body (gout in extreme cases) ....that's why I wonder if the red ears may be symptomatic. By cutting down on purine, one would be cutting down on uric acid production..... Isobel schrieb: > > i think cooked red tomatoes are ok.beef is one that is toxic so is one > to avoid,our phenols went down on sarah;s diet as this inflammation we > still use cooked tomatoes but give coconut water electrolte and > biomaris sea water to help keep up the alkaline in stomach.we also use > an alkaline water of9.5ph > > > > > > > > Vicky, > > > > > > I can't find your post anywhere but do I remember correctly that > > > or was it had 'highish' uric acid levels? If so, just some > > > thoughts.... > > > > > > I was with with my father tonight who has gout in his fingers and > > > remembered that gout is associated with high uric acid. High uric > acid > > > is something a lot of our kids have (but not all, some have low uric > > > acid.) then I remembered that high uric acid is associated with lead > > > toxicity ( I found some studies/articles on Pubmed)..... .so I did a > > > search and found this rather interesting website on gout... > > > http://www.health91 1.com/remedies/ rem_gout. htm > > > and if you scroll down, a piece on the connection to lead toxicity... > > > > > > <While traditional thinking is that certain foods cause gout, recent > > > research, however, indicates that *lead poisoning* may be another > > > possible cause. The lead poisoning makes the aldosterone system > > > insensitive to potassium concentration and increases the potassium > > > content of the blood. A potassium deficiency can increase urate > levels > > > in the blood. Aldosterone is a hormone secreted by the adrenal cortex > > > (part of the adrenal gland) that is important in the control of blood > > > pressure and the regulation of sodium and potassium concentration. It > > > would be very interesting for us to know how many people with gout > have > > > high blood pressure. To test for lead poisoning you can either have a > > > hair analysis or a heavy metals blood test done. Possibly the best > way > > > to test lead levels is to have an EDTA mobilization test done. If the > > > results indicate that you are high in lead (or other heavy metals) a > > > heavy metals detoxification clay bath may be helpful. >>> > > > > > > but what really interested me was: > > > > > > >>>>>>It (gout) can cause extremely sore toes or other areas of the > > > foot, and because it frequently manifests itself in the big toe, > it is > > > also known as " *gouty big toe* " . Another name is " gouty > arthritis " . Gout > > > can also appear in an ear, heel of the hand, small hand joints, > ankles, > > > knees, elbows, or wrists with inflammation, swelling and intense pain > > > from the buildup of uric acid crystals.>>> >>> > > > > > > Note: < *Gout can also appear in an ear*>> I cannot remember how red > > > ears=phenols all started on these lists but I'm beginning to wonder > > > whether 'red ears' actually may mean gout ie build-upof uric acid > > > crystals. When I get red ears, they're hot and tender, maybe a > mild form > > > of gout? So many of our kids have this 'red ear' thing and this > may be > > > the explanation. The phenol intolerance is part and parcel of the > same > > > thing as it has to do with the same pathway. > > > > > > Could you have (and anyone else reading this post) have a look at the > > > 'Foods to Avoid' somewhere really down on the list and tell me if > > > > (or any other children) has/have problems with any of these (I'll bet > > > red cooked tomatoes should be in there because lo and behold two days > > > ago I got gout in my middle toes and I am positive it's from the > highly > > > concentrated tomato sauce I had recently). > > > > > > Just some thoughts.... ... > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.149/2630 - Release Date: 01/18/10 07:35:00 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Isobel, it's like you read my mind. I still have issues with his ph balance. I was wondering if anyone used an alkaline water. Everything else is ok. On Sara's diet cooked red tomatoes are ok but without the skin. The skin contains lutien. I usually make my own tomato sauce without the skin. I also wanted to mention for those watching purine that pears, oats and all meats contain purine. Lukas only had about an ounce per day in the beginning. He no longer gets red ears from purine or phenols. And we are up to about 2 ounces per day now.The strange thing is though, he will not eat pears.. From: Isobel <isobelwizza@...>Autism Treatment Sent: Tue, January 19, 2010 2:03:02 AMSubject: Re: Vicky and all/lead poisoning and high uric acid and just maybe 'the red ear' syndrome..... i think cooked red tomatoes are ok.beef is one that is toxic so is one to avoid,our phenols went down on sarah;s diet as this inflammation we still use cooked tomatoes but give coconut water electrolte and biomaris sea water to help keep up the alkaline in stomach.we also use an alkaline water of9.5ph> >> > Vicky,> > > > I can't find your post anywhere but do I remember correctly that > > or was it had 'highish' uric acid levels? If so, just some > > thoughts....> > > > I was with with my father tonight who has gout in his fingers and > > remembered that gout is associated with high uric acid. High uric acid > > is something a lot of our kids have (but not all, some have low uric > > acid.) then I remembered that high uric acid is associated with lead > > toxicity ( I found some studies/articles on Pubmed)..... .so I did a > > search and found this rather interesting website on gout...> > http://www.health91 1.com/remedies/ rem_gout. htm> > and if you scroll down, a piece on the connection to lead toxicity...> > > > <While traditional thinking is that certain foods cause gout, recent > > research, however, indicates that *lead poisoning* may be another > > possible cause. The lead poisoning makes the aldosterone system > > insensitive to potassium concentration and increases the potassium > > content of the blood. A potassium deficiency can increase urate levels > > in the blood. Aldosterone is a hormone secreted by the adrenal cortex > > (part of the adrenal gland) that is important in the control of blood > > pressure and the regulation of sodium and potassium concentration. It > > would be very interesting for us to know how many people with gout have > > high blood pressure. To test for lead poisoning you can either have a > > hair analysis or a heavy metals blood test done. Possibly the best way > > to test lead levels is to have an EDTA mobilization test done. If the > > results indicate that you are high in lead (or other heavy metals) a > > heavy metals detoxification clay bath may be helpful. >>>> > > > but what really interested me was:> > > > >>>>>>It (gout) can cause extremely sore toes or other areas of the > > foot, and because it frequently manifests itself in the big toe, it is > > also known as "*gouty big toe*". Another name is "gouty arthritis". Gout > > can also appear in an ear, heel of the hand, small hand joints, ankles, > > knees, elbows, or wrists with inflammation, swelling and intense pain > > from the buildup of uric acid crystals.>>> >>>> > > > Note: < *Gout can also appear in an ear*>> I cannot remember how red > > ears=phenols all started on these lists but I'm beginning to wonder > > whether 'red ears' actually may mean gout ie build-upof uric acid > > crystals. When I get red ears, they're hot and tender, maybe a mild form > > of gout? So many of our kids have this 'red ear' thing and this may be > > the explanation. The phenol intolerance is part and parcel of the same > > thing as it has to do with the same pathway.> > > > Could you have (and anyone else reading this post) have a look at the > > 'Foods to Avoid' somewhere really down on the list and tell me if > > (or any other children) has/have problems with any of these (I'll bet > > red cooked tomatoes should be in there because lo and behold two days > > ago I got gout in my middle toes and I am positive it's from the highly > > concentrated tomato sauce I had recently).> > > > Just some thoughts.... ...> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 This is exactly right . From: JULIE GRIFFITHS <moppett1@...>Autism Treatment Sent: Tue, January 19, 2010 2:28:24 AMSubject: Re: Re: Vicky and all/lead poisoning and high uric acid and just maybe 'the red ear' syndrome.....I have to look this up again but I think the end product of purine metabolism is uric acid..If this cannot be excreted, it ends up staying in the body (gout in extreme cases) ....that's why I wonder if the red ears may be symptomatic. By cutting down on purine, one would be cutting down on uric acid production.....Isobel schrieb:>> i think cooked red tomatoes are ok.beef is one that is toxic so is one > to avoid,our phenols went down on sarah;s diet as this inflammation we > still use cooked tomatoes but give coconut water electrolte and > biomaris sea water to help keep up the alkaline in stomach.we also use > an alkaline water of9.5ph>> > > >> > > Vicky,> > >> > > I can't find your post anywhere but do I remember correctly that > > > or was it had 'highish' uric acid levels? If so, just some> > > thoughts....> > >> > > I was with with my father tonight who has gout in his fingers and> > > remembered that gout is associated with high uric acid. High uric > acid> > > is something a lot of our kids have (but not all, some have low uric> > > acid.) then I remembered that high uric acid is associated with lead> > > toxicity ( I found some studies/articles on Pubmed)..... .so I did a> > > search and found this rather interesting website on gout...> > > http://www.health91 1.com/remedies/ rem_gout. htm> > > and if you scroll down, a piece on the connection to lead toxicity...> > >> > > <While traditional thinking is that certain foods cause gout, recent> > > research, however, indicates that *lead poisoning* may be another> > > possible cause. The lead poisoning makes the aldosterone system> > > insensitive to potassium concentration and increases the potassium> > > content of the blood. A potassium deficiency can increase urate > levels> > > in the blood. Aldosterone is a hormone secreted by the adrenal cortex> > > (part of the adrenal gland) that is important in the control of blood> > > pressure and the regulation of sodium and potassium concentration. It> > > would be very interesting for us to know how many people with gout > have> > > high blood pressure. To test for lead poisoning you can either have a> > > hair analysis or a heavy metals blood test done. Possibly the best > way> > > to test lead levels is to have an EDTA mobilization test done. If the> > > results indicate that you are high in lead (or other heavy metals) a> > > heavy metals detoxification clay bath may be helpful. >>>> > >> > > but what really interested me was:> > >> > > >>>>>>It (gout) can cause extremely sore toes or other areas of the> > > foot, and because it frequently manifests itself in the big toe, > it is> > > also known as "*gouty big toe*". Another name is "gouty > arthritis". Gout> > > can also appear in an ear, heel of the hand, small hand joints, > ankles,> > > knees, elbows, or wrists with inflammation, swelling and intense pain> > > from the buildup of uric acid crystals.>>> >>>> > >> > > Note: < *Gout can also appear in an ear*>> I cannot remember how red> > > ears=phenols all started on these lists but I'm beginning to wonder> > > whether 'red ears' actually may mean gout ie build-upof uric acid> > > crystals. When I get red ears, they're hot and tender, maybe a > mild form> > > of gout? So many of our kids have this 'red ear' thing and this > may be> > > the explanation. The phenol intolerance is part and parcel of the > same> > > thing as it has to do with the same pathway.> > >> > > Could you have (and anyone else reading this post) have a look at the> > > 'Foods to Avoid' somewhere really down on the list and tell me if > > > > (or any other children) has/have problems with any of these (I'll bet> > > red cooked tomatoes should be in there because lo and behold two days> > > ago I got gout in my middle toes and I am positive it's from the > highly> > > concentrated tomato sauce I had recently).> > >> > > Just some thoughts.... ...> > >> >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------>>> No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.149/2630 - Release Date: 01/18/10 07:35:00>> ------------------------------------DISCLAIMERNo information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified practitioner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 hi sharon we dont use pears oats and beef zachary tested positive for these the ph 9.5 water is available at fresh and wild 2.19 but there is a muchine that can doit will ask june to post this soon. There is also a homeopathic remedy thaty will regulate ph levels justfound it today you may want to start low at 30c or 200c daily or weekly or do more long term at 1m heracleum pirosella loss of power to expel soft stool male genital itching worse for cold draft air worse for least touch better for warmth and damp speeds elimination of uric acid balances ph levels diminishes the tendency to to catarrahs isobel > > > > > > Vicky, > > > > > > I can't find your post anywhere but do I remember correctly that > > > or was it had 'highish' uric acid levels? If so, just some > > > thoughts.... > > > > > > I was with with my father tonight who has gout in his fingers and > > > remembered that gout is associated with high uric acid. High uric acid > > > is something a lot of our kids have (but not all, some have low uric > > > acid.) then I remembered that high uric acid is associated with lead > > > toxicity ( I found some studies/articles on Pubmed)..... .so I did a > > > search and found this rather interesting website on gout... > > > http://www.health91 1.com/remedies/ rem_gout. htm > > > and if you scroll down, a piece on the connection to lead toxicity... > > > > > > <While traditional thinking is that certain foods cause gout, recent > > > research, however, indicates that *lead poisoning* may be another > > > possible cause. The lead poisoning makes the aldosterone system > > > insensitive to potassium concentration and increases the potassium > > > content of the blood. A potassium deficiency can increase urate levels > > > in the blood. Aldosterone is a hormone secreted by the adrenal cortex > > > (part of the adrenal gland) that is important in the control of blood > > > pressure and the regulation of sodium and potassium concentration. It > > > would be very interesting for us to know how many people with gout have > > > high blood pressure. To test for lead poisoning you can either have a > > > hair analysis or a heavy metals blood test done. Possibly the best way > > > to test lead levels is to have an EDTA mobilization test done. If the > > > results indicate that you are high in lead (or other heavy metals) a > > > heavy metals detoxification clay bath may be helpful. >>> > > > > > > but what really interested me was: > > > > > > >>>>>>It (gout) can cause extremely sore toes or other areas of the > > > foot, and because it frequently manifests itself in the big toe, it is > > > also known as " *gouty big toe* " . Another name is " gouty arthritis " . Gout > > > can also appear in an ear, heel of the hand, small hand joints, ankles, > > > knees, elbows, or wrists with inflammation, swelling and intense pain > > > from the buildup of uric acid crystals.>>> >>> > > > > > > Note: < *Gout can also appear in an ear*>> I cannot remember how red > > > ears=phenols all started on these lists but I'm beginning to wonder > > > whether 'red ears' actually may mean gout ie build-upof uric acid > > > crystals. When I get red ears, they're hot and tender, maybe a mild form > > > of gout? So many of our kids have this 'red ear' thing and this may be > > > the explanation. The phenol intolerance is part and parcel of the same > > > thing as it has to do with the same pathway. > > > > > > Could you have (and anyone else reading this post) have a look at the > > > 'Foods to Avoid' somewhere really down on the list and tell me if > > > (or any other children) has/have problems with any of these (I'll bet > > > red cooked tomatoes should be in there because lo and behold two days > > > ago I got gout in my middle toes and I am positive it's from the highly > > > concentrated tomato sauce I had recently). > > > > > > Just some thoughts.... ... > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Hi Sharon, MY son's PH balance was a problematic,always low.So,dr gave him Tri-Salt and I was checking Uritest strips..I think it was helpful,my son is still on Trisalt.This product helps to support metabolic acidosis and renal function. nevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 And my daughter had the worst belly aches on oatmeal....gosh, so many things falling into place..... Sharon Schachte schrieb: > This is exactly right . > > *From:* JULIE GRIFFITHS <moppett1@btinternet .com> > *To:* Autism-Biomedical- Europe@grou ps.com > *Sent:* Tue, January 19, 2010 2:28:24 AM > *Subject:* Re: Re: Vicky and all/lead > poisoning and high uric acid and just maybe 'the red ear' syndrome.... . > > I have to look this up again but I think the end product of purine > metabolism is uric acid..If this cannot be excreted, it ends up staying > in the body (gout in extreme cases) ....that's why I wonder if the red > ears may be symptomatic. By cutting down on purine, one would be cutting > down on uric acid production.. ... > > Isobel schrieb: > > > > i think cooked red tomatoes are ok.beef is one that is toxic so is one > > to avoid,our phenols went down on sarah;s diet as this inflammation we > > still use cooked tomatoes but give coconut water electrolte and > > biomaris sea water to help keep up the alkaline in stomach.we also use > > an alkaline water of9.5ph > > > > > > > > > > > > Vicky, > > > > > > > > I can't find your post anywhere but do I remember correctly that > > > > > or was it had 'highish' uric acid levels? If so, just some > > > > thoughts.... > > > > > > > > I was with with my father tonight who has gout in his fingers and > > > > remembered that gout is associated with high uric acid. High uric > > acid > > > > is something a lot of our kids have (but not all, some have low uric > > > > acid.) then I remembered that high uric acid is associated with lead > > > > toxicity ( I found some studies/articles on Pubmed)..... .so I did a > > > > search and found this rather interesting website on gout... > > > > http://www.health91 1.com/remedies/ <http://1.com/remedies/> > rem_gout. htm > > > > and if you scroll down, a piece on the connection to lead > toxicity... > > > > > > > > <While traditional thinking is that certain foods cause gout, recent > > > > research, however, indicates that *lead poisoning* may be another > > > > possible cause. The lead poisoning makes the aldosterone system > > > > insensitive to potassium concentration and increases the potassium > > > > content of the blood. A potassium deficiency can increase urate > > levels > > > > in the blood. Aldosterone is a hormone secreted by the adrenal > cortex > > > > (part of the adrenal gland) that is important in the control of > blood > > > > pressure and the regulation of sodium and potassium > concentration. It > > > > would be very interesting for us to know how many people with gout > > have > > > > high blood pressure. To test for lead poisoning you can either > have a > > > > hair analysis or a heavy metals blood test done. Possibly the best > > way > > > > to test lead levels is to have an EDTA mobilization test done. > If the > > > > results indicate that you are high in lead (or other heavy metals) a > > > > heavy metals detoxification clay bath may be helpful. >>> > > > > > > > > but what really interested me was: > > > > > > > > >>>>>>It (gout) can cause extremely sore toes or other areas of the > > > > foot, and because it frequently manifests itself in the big toe, > > it is > > > > also known as " *gouty big toe* " . Another name is " gouty > > arthritis " . Gout > > > > can also appear in an ear, heel of the hand, small hand joints, > > ankles, > > > > knees, elbows, or wrists with inflammation, swelling and intense > pain > > > > from the buildup of uric acid crystals.>>> >>> > > > > > > > > Note: < *Gout can also appear in an ear*>> I cannot remember how red > > > > ears=phenols all started on these lists but I'm beginning to wonder > > > > whether 'red ears' actually may mean gout ie build-upof uric acid > > > > crystals. When I get red ears, they're hot and tender, maybe a > > mild form > > > > of gout? So many of our kids have this 'red ear' thing and this > > may be > > > > the explanation. The phenol intolerance is part and parcel of the > > same > > > > thing as it has to do with the same pathway. > > > > > > > > Could you have (and anyone else reading this post) have a look > at the > > > > 'Foods to Avoid' somewhere really down on the list and tell me if > > > > > > (or any other children) has/have problems with any of these > (I'll bet > > > > red cooked tomatoes should be in there because lo and behold two > days > > > > ago I got gout in my middle toes and I am positive it's from the > > highly > > > > concentrated tomato sauce I had recently). > > > > > > > > Just some thoughts.... ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- > --------- ------ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/> > > Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.149/2630 - Release Date: > 01/18/10 07:35:00 > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > DISCLAIMER > No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical > advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably > qualified practitioner. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Is there another name for this? All I find is Heracleum Sphondylium in the materia medica. And source? Thanks, > >or weekly or do more long term at 1m heracleum pirosella loss of power to expel soft stool > male genital itching worse for cold draft air worse for least touch better for warmth and damp > speeds elimination of uric acid balances ph levels diminishes the tendency to to catarrahs isobel > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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