Re: KT for nausea and diarrhea?

[Guest guest]

when one of my four kids would come home from school and said he wont eat for

supper and was sick at school I would make him drink some colloidal silver and

in

in one hour he was eating again and that was the end of it.

Re: KT for nausea and diarrhea?

Kombucha is what I give all my kids when someone is sick with a

stomach thing and it usually stops it in its tracks. Especially if he

wants it, I would give it to him, making sure that he drinks at least

as much as well.

So sorry your baby had to go to the hospital :-(

maria.

On Nov 24, 2007, at 7:32 PM, cyneburh wrote:

> Anyone used KT when sick with these symptoms?

>

> My son (16 mo) has had diarrhea and vomiting since Tuesday and was

> hospitalized on Wednesday and Thursday for rehydration and rebalancing

> of his electrolytes. I've been nursing him but he was in the process

> of self weaning before this so my supply isn't. all that great. He's

> had a little KT in the past so it's not new to him. Tonight when I was

> making a new batch and putting the current batch into it's

> fermentation container, he wanted some. So I mixed a couple ounces

> with juice and gave it to him.

>

> Anyone know if this will make his poor tummy feel worse?

>

> My gut is telling me that he'll probably feel better but I'm also just

> being a bit of a worried mommy here.

>

> I've not been able to get any other probiotics into him though so I'm

> hoping this will help.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

when one of my four kids would come home from school and said he wont eat for

supper and was sick at school I would make him drink some colloidal silver and

in

in one hour he was eating again and that was the end of it.

Re: KT for nausea and diarrhea?

Kombucha is what I give all my kids when someone is sick with a

stomach thing and it usually stops it in its tracks. Especially if he

wants it, I would give it to him, making sure that he drinks at least

as much as well.

So sorry your baby had to go to the hospital :-(

maria.

On Nov 24, 2007, at 7:32 PM, cyneburh wrote:

> Anyone used KT when sick with these symptoms?

>

> My son (16 mo) has had diarrhea and vomiting since Tuesday and was

> hospitalized on Wednesday and Thursday for rehydration and rebalancing

> of his electrolytes. I've been nursing him but he was in the process

> of self weaning before this so my supply isn't. all that great. He's

> had a little KT in the past so it's not new to him. Tonight when I was

> making a new batch and putting the current batch into it's

> fermentation container, he wanted some. So I mixed a couple ounces

> with juice and gave it to him.

>

> Anyone know if this will make his poor tummy feel worse?

>

> My gut is telling me that he'll probably feel better but I'm also just

> being a bit of a worried mommy here.

>

> I've not been able to get any other probiotics into him though so I'm

> hoping this will help.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Kombucha is what I give all my kids when someone is sick with a

stomach thing and it usually stops it in its tracks. Especially if he

wants it, I would give it to him, making sure that he drinks at least

as much as well.

So sorry your baby had to go to the hospital :-(

maria.

On Nov 24, 2007, at 7:32 PM, cyneburh wrote:

> Anyone used KT when sick with these symptoms?

>

> My son (16 mo) has had diarrhea and vomiting since Tuesday and was

> hospitalized on Wednesday and Thursday for rehydration and rebalancing

> of his electrolytes. I've been nursing him but he was in the process

> of self weaning before this so my supply isn't. all that great. He's

> had a little KT in the past so it's not new to him. Tonight when I was

> making a new batch and putting the current batch into it's

> fermentation container, he wanted some. So I mixed a couple ounces

> with juice and gave it to him.

>

> Anyone know if this will make his poor tummy feel worse?

>

> My gut is telling me that he'll probably feel better but I'm also just

> being a bit of a worried mommy here.

>

> I've not been able to get any other probiotics into him though so I'm

> hoping this will help.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Kombucha is what I give all my kids when someone is sick with a

stomach thing and it usually stops it in its tracks. Especially if he

wants it, I would give it to him, making sure that he drinks at least

as much as well.

So sorry your baby had to go to the hospital :-(

maria.

On Nov 24, 2007, at 7:32 PM, cyneburh wrote:

> Anyone used KT when sick with these symptoms?

>

> My son (16 mo) has had diarrhea and vomiting since Tuesday and was

> hospitalized on Wednesday and Thursday for rehydration and rebalancing

> of his electrolytes. I've been nursing him but he was in the process

> of self weaning before this so my supply isn't. all that great. He's

> had a little KT in the past so it's not new to him. Tonight when I was

> making a new batch and putting the current batch into it's

> fermentation container, he wanted some. So I mixed a couple ounces

> with juice and gave it to him.

>

> Anyone know if this will make his poor tummy feel worse?

>

> My gut is telling me that he'll probably feel better but I'm also just

> being a bit of a worried mommy here.

>

> I've not been able to get any other probiotics into him though so I'm

> hoping this will help.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks! I diluted it about half and half with juice and he's nursing a

lot so he's definitely getting other liquids.

The hospital wasn't bad once I got out of the ER and they didn't treat

me like I was crazy for not wanting to give him motrin for his fever.

I'd rather support a fever as long as it's not at a dangerous level.

They (the ER nurses) just wanted it gone.

He's not acting like it's bothering him. It's good to know that KT

usually stops things in it's tracks for your family. I hope it does

for my ds too.

>

> > Anyone used KT when sick with these symptoms?

> >

> > My son (16 mo) has had diarrhea and vomiting since Tuesday and was

> > hospitalized on Wednesday and Thursday for rehydration and rebalancing

> > of his electrolytes. I've been nursing him but he was in the process

> > of self weaning before this so my supply isn't. all that great. He's

> > had a little KT in the past so it's not new to him. Tonight when I was

> > making a new batch and putting the current batch into it's

> > fermentation container, he wanted some. So I mixed a couple ounces

> > with juice and gave it to him.

> >

> > Anyone know if this will make his poor tummy feel worse?

> >

> > My gut is telling me that he'll probably feel better but I'm also just

> > being a bit of a worried mommy here.

> >

> > I've not been able to get any other probiotics into him though so I'm

> > hoping this will help.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks! I diluted it about half and half with juice and he's nursing a

lot so he's definitely getting other liquids.

The hospital wasn't bad once I got out of the ER and they didn't treat

me like I was crazy for not wanting to give him motrin for his fever.

I'd rather support a fever as long as it's not at a dangerous level.

They (the ER nurses) just wanted it gone.

He's not acting like it's bothering him. It's good to know that KT

usually stops things in it's tracks for your family. I hope it does

for my ds too.

>

> > Anyone used KT when sick with these symptoms?

> >

> > My son (16 mo) has had diarrhea and vomiting since Tuesday and was

> > hospitalized on Wednesday and Thursday for rehydration and rebalancing

> > of his electrolytes. I've been nursing him but he was in the process

> > of self weaning before this so my supply isn't. all that great. He's

> > had a little KT in the past so it's not new to him. Tonight when I was

> > making a new batch and putting the current batch into it's

> > fermentation container, he wanted some. So I mixed a couple ounces

> > with juice and gave it to him.

> >

> > Anyone know if this will make his poor tummy feel worse?

> >

> > My gut is telling me that he'll probably feel better but I'm also just

> > being a bit of a worried mommy here.

> >

> > I've not been able to get any other probiotics into him though so I'm

> > hoping this will help.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Please observe your son carefully. Kefir is better than kombycha for

something of this nature. Is the diarrhea foul smelling? My son had a

rotovirus at 16 months old. He was also rehydrated and etc in the ER

2 days in a row. He was sick for 4 or 5 days running. On Monday,

fever was gone but he was still vomiting and had diarrhea. I was

wavering about bringing him to the doctor yet *again*. Then a voice

siad in my head, sternly, " You better pay attention! "

I called the doctor, he told me he thought I was being over cautious

but to bring him in. My mom came to the door to babysit, looked at

him and pronounced, " He's fine! "

I took him in, doctor didn't think he was too bad. I began to

pray, " Lord, give this man wisdom for my son. " He began o change his

thoughts, said to bring him back to the ER, and then said he would be

disappointed if they didn't admit him.

Brought him in, they did bloodwork. I was nursing him in the waiting

area when they came charging in and swooped him up to ICU. His

potassium level was 2! Incompatible with life, and they couldn't even

give him potassium until they were sure his kidneys hadn't shut down

yet! They told me I had brought him in just on the " edge " ! He was

ready to go into kidney and heart failure! Thankfully, he peed a tiny

bit of brown urine, so they started a bolus of potassium. His tissues

were so depleted that he took 2 starting boluses before his levels

began to go up!

For three days my very active 16 mo old laid there very

unresponsively. I did not leave for three days. They did not want me

to nurse him. On the end of the second day, I sneakily began nursing

him and he began to improve from that point on. A few years later I

read an article that stated doctors had " discovered " that breast milk

*was* beneficial for rotovirus, instead of being contraindicated.

But by the time he was admitted, he no longer had the virus---the

vomiting and diarrhea was from his electrolyte depletion and

potassium level being so low.

Now I am very quick to tell mothers to pay attention to a prolonged

bout of vomiting and diarrhea.

I would say God has a plan for my son's life, wouldn't you? For

months afterward, whenever I thought how close we came to losing him,

I would just hug him and squeeze him close.

Jill.

[Guest guest]

Please observe your son carefully. Kefir is better than kombycha for

something of this nature. Is the diarrhea foul smelling? My son had a

rotovirus at 16 months old. He was also rehydrated and etc in the ER

2 days in a row. He was sick for 4 or 5 days running. On Monday,

fever was gone but he was still vomiting and had diarrhea. I was

wavering about bringing him to the doctor yet *again*. Then a voice

siad in my head, sternly, " You better pay attention! "

I called the doctor, he told me he thought I was being over cautious

but to bring him in. My mom came to the door to babysit, looked at

him and pronounced, " He's fine! "

I took him in, doctor didn't think he was too bad. I began to

pray, " Lord, give this man wisdom for my son. " He began o change his

thoughts, said to bring him back to the ER, and then said he would be

disappointed if they didn't admit him.

Brought him in, they did bloodwork. I was nursing him in the waiting

area when they came charging in and swooped him up to ICU. His

potassium level was 2! Incompatible with life, and they couldn't even

give him potassium until they were sure his kidneys hadn't shut down

yet! They told me I had brought him in just on the " edge " ! He was

ready to go into kidney and heart failure! Thankfully, he peed a tiny

bit of brown urine, so they started a bolus of potassium. His tissues

were so depleted that he took 2 starting boluses before his levels

began to go up!

For three days my very active 16 mo old laid there very

unresponsively. I did not leave for three days. They did not want me

to nurse him. On the end of the second day, I sneakily began nursing

him and he began to improve from that point on. A few years later I

read an article that stated doctors had " discovered " that breast milk

*was* beneficial for rotovirus, instead of being contraindicated.

But by the time he was admitted, he no longer had the virus---the

vomiting and diarrhea was from his electrolyte depletion and

potassium level being so low.

Now I am very quick to tell mothers to pay attention to a prolonged

bout of vomiting and diarrhea.

I would say God has a plan for my son's life, wouldn't you? For

months afterward, whenever I thought how close we came to losing him,

I would just hug him and squeeze him close.

Jill.

[Guest guest]

Saccharomyces boulardii is a specific strain of the common

Saccharomyces yeasts used in ferments. This particular strain

is well noted for helping with diarrhea. Especially for anti-biotic

related infant diarrhea and used in rehydration therapy.

Capsules and Off the Shelf products are widely available.

Fleischmann's Yeasts (S. cerevisae) very reliable.

and used in some studies of infant diarrhea.

Some suggested dosages for the wet cake 1/4 cake daily

or 1/8 teaspoon four times a day for the dry, for 14 days.

There is noted concern for immune compromised individuals

for this therapy.

Fleischmann notes 1,010 organisms of S.cerevaise per gram.

GT Kombucha states S, boulardii is in his product.

and there are 1 billion. don't know if he means

per serving which then there are only 1/2 or per bottle.

He is the only one that I know of that states that strain.

S. boulardii has sometimes been identified as S. cerevisae

Although by most accounts they are different.

GrainFields produces both a Liquid Probiotic and a powder and

list both S. boulardii and S. cerevisae as well as other all

organic probiotics like lactobacillus, a beneficial bacteria

also listed in GT's. Grainfield is very much more specific

on contents and numerous strains.

B.E. GrainFields Probiotic http://tinyurl.com/2mpe4j

Normally I do not recommend kombucha while nursing, or for

newborns or children before the age of 3 or 4.

http://www.happyherbalist.com/cautions.htm

The concern is that a new born digestive tract is still

developing and even a good thing can easily overwhelm

such a fragile system. Kombucha tea has been reported

to cause diarrhea or loose stools, stomach unrest, gurgling

which is probably related to " healing reaction " or detox.

Taking probiotics with food or water will increase the

proliferation ability of the probiotics.

I do suggest you talk over this therapy with your doctor first,

as this is a serious concern, and wonder why they did not

advise you of this protocol.

The recent voluntary recall of Children's Cold and Flu medicine,

as well as fever reducers has been a shock to many. The

common notion that one just reduce the dosage will achieve

success has been documented to be very bad medicine.

Babies and children are not simply small people they have

to be considered in their class. Maybe that had more to do

with the hospital not prescribing anything to reduce the

fever. Homeopathic doctors as well as alternative medicine

has been making that claim for years. High fevers have

to be reduced but not low fevers. Homeopathy is safe,

effective and easy to administer http://tinyurl.com/2xaoxy

You may be able to find a Homeopathic Pediatric MD

in your neighborhood.

Peace

Ed Kasper LAc. & family

California Licensed Health Care professional

Acupuncture, Medical Herbs & Homeopathy.

www.HappyHerbalist.com

............................................

KT for nausea and diarrhea?

Posted by: " cyneburh " cyneburh@... cyneburh

Sat Nov 24, 2007 7:32 pm (PST)

Anyone used KT when sick with these symptoms?

My son (16 mo) has had diarrhea and vomiting since Tuesday and was

hospitalized on Wednesday and Thursday for rehydration and rebalancing

of his electrolytes. I've been nursing him but he was in the process

of self weaning before this so my supply isn't. all that great. He's

had a little KT in the past so it's not new to him. Tonight when I was

making a new batch and putting the current batch into it's

fermentation container, he wanted some. So I mixed a couple ounces

with juice and gave it to him.

Anyone know if this will make his poor tummy feel worse?

My gut is telling me that he'll probably feel better but I'm also just

being a bit of a worried mommy here.

I've not been able to get any other probiotics into him though so I'm

hoping this will help.

and

The hospital wasn't bad once I got out of the ER and they didn't treat

me like I was crazy for not wanting to give him motrin for his fever.

I'd rather support a fever as long as it's not at a dangerous level.

They (the ER nurses) just wanted it gone.

[Guest guest]

Saccharomyces boulardii is a specific strain of the common

Saccharomyces yeasts used in ferments. This particular strain

is well noted for helping with diarrhea. Especially for anti-biotic

related infant diarrhea and used in rehydration therapy.

Capsules and Off the Shelf products are widely available.

Fleischmann's Yeasts (S. cerevisae) very reliable.

and used in some studies of infant diarrhea.

Some suggested dosages for the wet cake 1/4 cake daily

or 1/8 teaspoon four times a day for the dry, for 14 days.

There is noted concern for immune compromised individuals

for this therapy.

Fleischmann notes 1,010 organisms of S.cerevaise per gram.

GT Kombucha states S, boulardii is in his product.

and there are 1 billion. don't know if he means

per serving which then there are only 1/2 or per bottle.

He is the only one that I know of that states that strain.

S. boulardii has sometimes been identified as S. cerevisae

Although by most accounts they are different.

GrainFields produces both a Liquid Probiotic and a powder and

list both S. boulardii and S. cerevisae as well as other all

organic probiotics like lactobacillus, a beneficial bacteria

also listed in GT's. Grainfield is very much more specific

on contents and numerous strains.

B.E. GrainFields Probiotic http://tinyurl.com/2mpe4j

Normally I do not recommend kombucha while nursing, or for

newborns or children before the age of 3 or 4.

http://www.happyherbalist.com/cautions.htm

The concern is that a new born digestive tract is still

developing and even a good thing can easily overwhelm

such a fragile system. Kombucha tea has been reported

to cause diarrhea or loose stools, stomach unrest, gurgling

which is probably related to " healing reaction " or detox.

Taking probiotics with food or water will increase the

proliferation ability of the probiotics.

I do suggest you talk over this therapy with your doctor first,

as this is a serious concern, and wonder why they did not

advise you of this protocol.

The recent voluntary recall of Children's Cold and Flu medicine,

as well as fever reducers has been a shock to many. The

common notion that one just reduce the dosage will achieve

success has been documented to be very bad medicine.

Babies and children are not simply small people they have

to be considered in their class. Maybe that had more to do

with the hospital not prescribing anything to reduce the

fever. Homeopathic doctors as well as alternative medicine

has been making that claim for years. High fevers have

to be reduced but not low fevers. Homeopathy is safe,

effective and easy to administer http://tinyurl.com/2xaoxy

You may be able to find a Homeopathic Pediatric MD

in your neighborhood.

Peace

Ed Kasper LAc. & family

California Licensed Health Care professional

Acupuncture, Medical Herbs & Homeopathy.

www.HappyHerbalist.com

............................................

KT for nausea and diarrhea?

Posted by: " cyneburh " cyneburh@... cyneburh

Sat Nov 24, 2007 7:32 pm (PST)

Anyone used KT when sick with these symptoms?

My son (16 mo) has had diarrhea and vomiting since Tuesday and was

hospitalized on Wednesday and Thursday for rehydration and rebalancing

of his electrolytes. I've been nursing him but he was in the process

of self weaning before this so my supply isn't. all that great. He's

had a little KT in the past so it's not new to him. Tonight when I was

making a new batch and putting the current batch into it's

fermentation container, he wanted some. So I mixed a couple ounces

with juice and gave it to him.

Anyone know if this will make his poor tummy feel worse?

My gut is telling me that he'll probably feel better but I'm also just

being a bit of a worried mommy here.

I've not been able to get any other probiotics into him though so I'm

hoping this will help.

and

The hospital wasn't bad once I got out of the ER and they didn't treat

me like I was crazy for not wanting to give him motrin for his fever.

I'd rather support a fever as long as it's not at a dangerous level.

They (the ER nurses) just wanted it gone.

[Guest guest]

Thank you. We have been.

He is doing so much better! He still has the foul smelling poops but

everything else (fever, vomiting, dehydration, listlessness, lack of

appetite) is gone. We will continue to watch him. And I'm getting my

kefir back up and and running since that will also help.

I haven't been told if this was rotovirus or not. I suspect I'll never

know because they couldn't get enough of a stool sample to do tests.

His stools were so clear liquid that just soaked right into those

disposable diapers.

Thank you for sharing. And for your concern. I thought I'd update

since he's really doing so much better.

>

> Please observe your son carefully. Kefir is better than kombycha for

> something of this nature. Is the diarrhea foul smelling? My son had a

> rotovirus at 16 months old.

[Guest guest]

Thank you. We have been.

He is doing so much better! He still has the foul smelling poops but

everything else (fever, vomiting, dehydration, listlessness, lack of

appetite) is gone. We will continue to watch him. And I'm getting my

kefir back up and and running since that will also help.

I haven't been told if this was rotovirus or not. I suspect I'll never

know because they couldn't get enough of a stool sample to do tests.

His stools were so clear liquid that just soaked right into those

disposable diapers.

Thank you for sharing. And for your concern. I thought I'd update

since he's really doing so much better.

>

> Please observe your son carefully. Kefir is better than kombycha for

> something of this nature. Is the diarrhea foul smelling? My son had a

> rotovirus at 16 months old.