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So then I wouldn't be stepping on any toes if I created one ( group for biomed locally)? I ran one in the last place I lived and really miss the local support while going through the chelation ( currently TD-DMPS) and all of the other crazy stuff we do. I belong to all of the other great groups out there, but there is a lot to be said for having a small local biomedical support group, especially online. It sounds to me like there are at least a few of us in this boat here. Jane Mama to 7 (ASD) and 4 (NT)

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I think that would be great. I would join.

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On Dec 30, 2004, at 9:31 PM, Jane Romdalvik wrote:

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>  So then I wouldn't be stepping on any toes if I created one (

> group for biomed locally)? I ran one in the last place I lived and

> really miss the local support while going through the chelation (

> currently TD-DMPS) and all of the other crazy stuff we do. I belong to

> all of the other great groups out there, but there is a lot to be said

> for having a small local biomedical support group, especially online.

> It sounds to me like there are at least a few of us in this boat here.

>  

> Jane

> Mama to 7 (ASD) and 4 (NT)

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I would join Jane. My ped is wanting to start a local group for parents who are choosing the biomedical route and she wants me to help. I need all the help I can get.

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Re: Bio-medical info

So then I wouldn't be stepping on any toes if I created one ( group for biomed locally)? I ran one in the last place I lived and really miss the local support while going through the chelation ( currently TD-DMPS) and all of the other crazy stuff we do. I belong to all of the other great groups out there, but there is a lot to be said for having a small local biomedical support group, especially online. It sounds to me like there are at least a few of us in this boat here.

Jane

Mama to 7 (ASD) and 4 (NT)

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Count me in too Jane

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So then I wouldn't be stepping on any toes if I created one ( group for biomed locally)? I ran one in the last place I lived and really miss the local support while going through the chelation ( currently TD-DMPS) and all of the other crazy stuff we do. I belong to all of the other great groups out there, but there is a lot to be said for having a small local biomedical support group, especially online. It sounds to me like there are at least a few of us in this boat here.

Jane

Mama to 7 (ASD) and 4 (NT)

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Jane:

That would be great! We are doing

chelation with TTFD right now, and will move forward with DMPS and eventually

hope to work with Dr. Buttar in North Carolina (we have an appointment

in June). We would definitely join a local biomed group.

" Jane Romdalvik "

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12/30/2004 09:31 PM

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So then I wouldn't be

stepping on any toes if I created one ( group for biomed locally)?

I ran one in the last place I lived and really miss the local support while

going through the chelation ( currently TD-DMPS) and all of the other crazy

stuff we do. I belong to all of the other great groups out there, but there

is a lot to be said for having a small local biomedical support group,

especially online. It sounds to me like there are at least a few of us

in this boat here.

Jane

Mama to 7 (ASD) and

4 (NT)

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,

Do you have the contact information for Dr. Buttar you can share.

We are trying to get hooked up with him and would also be interested

in any feedback you might care to share.

Jim

> Jane:

>

> That would be great! We are doing chelation with TTFD right now,

and will

> move forward with DMPS and eventually hope to work with Dr. Buttar

in

> North Carolina (we have an appointment in June). We would

definitely join

> a local biomed group.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> " Jane Romdalvik " <rominick@a...>

> 12/30/2004 09:31 PM

> Please respond to

> autism

>

>

> To

> <autism >

> cc

>

> Subject

> Re: Bio-medical info

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> So then I wouldn't be stepping on any toes if I created one

( group

> for biomed locally)? I ran one in the last place I lived and

really miss

> the local support while going through the chelation ( currently TD-

DMPS)

> and all of the other crazy stuff we do. I belong to all of the

other great

> groups out there, but there is a lot to be said for having a small

local

> biomedical support group, especially online. It sounds to me like

there

> are at least a few of us in this boat here.

>

> Jane

> Mama to 7 (ASD) and 4 (NT)

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

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,

Do you have the contact information for Dr. Buttar you can share.

We are trying to get hooked up with him and would also be interested

in any feedback you might care to share.

Jim

> Jane:

>

> That would be great! We are doing chelation with TTFD right now,

and will

> move forward with DMPS and eventually hope to work with Dr. Buttar

in

> North Carolina (we have an appointment in June). We would

definitely join

> a local biomed group.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> " Jane Romdalvik " <rominick@a...>

> 12/30/2004 09:31 PM

> Please respond to

> autism

>

>

> To

> <autism >

> cc

>

> Subject

> Re: Bio-medical info

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> So then I wouldn't be stepping on any toes if I created one

( group

> for biomed locally)? I ran one in the last place I lived and

really miss

> the local support while going through the chelation ( currently TD-

DMPS)

> and all of the other crazy stuff we do. I belong to all of the

other great

> groups out there, but there is a lot to be said for having a small

local

> biomedical support group, especially online. It sounds to me like

there

> are at least a few of us in this boat here.

>

> Jane

> Mama to 7 (ASD) and 4 (NT)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Jim:

I'll have to find Dr. Buttar's information

at home,and I'm at work right now, but I wanted to let you know that there

are two doctors in the Atlanta area now using TD-DMPS and following Buttar's

protocol: Dr. Lee and Dr. Guest. We just completed

the preliminary testing required by Buttar, and when those results are

in, will start with the DMPS. We just had a phone appointment with

him, which wasn't very informative, but we knew what we were starting already,

so we didn't have many questions. The initial lab testing and phone

appointment cost us about $2,000. I'm not sure what the expense for

the DMPS will be each month.

If you want lots more info., sign onto

the AutismBiomedGa group, look around in the files, and ask questions.

Some of the parents on that group are already using DMPS.

We have using glutathione, TTFD, and

DMSA for about six months, and have seen lots of metals coming out, and

some improvements with our son, but nothing " dramatic " . Enough

to keep it up, though:)

" Jim " <jgs3@...>

Sent by: autism

07/20/2005 11:22 AM

Please respond to

autism

To

autism

cc

Subject

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info

,

Do you have the contact information for Dr. Buttar you can share.

We are trying to get hooked up with him and would also be interested

in any feedback you might care to share.

Jim

> Jane:

>

> That would be great! We are doing chelation with TTFD right

now,

and will

> move forward with DMPS and eventually hope to work with Dr. Buttar

in

> North Carolina (we have an appointment in June). We would

definitely join

> a local biomed group.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> " Jane Romdalvik " <rominick@a...>

> 12/30/2004 09:31 PM

> Please respond to

> autism

>

>

> To

> <autism >

> cc

>

> Subject

> Re: Bio-medical info

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> So then I wouldn't be stepping on any toes if I created one

( group

> for biomed locally)? I ran one in the last place I lived and

really miss

> the local support while going through the chelation ( currently TD-

DMPS)

> and all of the other crazy stuff we do. I belong to all of the

other great

> groups out there, but there is a lot to be said for having a small

local

> biomedical support group, especially online. It sounds to me like

there

> are at least a few of us in this boat here.

>

> Jane

> Mama to 7 (ASD) and 4 (NT)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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For those who are interested. Glutathione ,TidF are the weakest of

chelators and should nevere be relied on to detoxify these children. DMSA

is also a weak systemic chelator of mercury and is a little better for

leas. DMSA is a very important adjunctive chelator because there is some

good evidence from Russian work that it does get into the brain and DMPS

doesn't. The best combinations of therapies are oral DMPS and oral DMSA

for those who would rather stay away from the injections. It is very

important to always give supplemental minerals and measure RBC minerals

every few months during therapy and that way you can specifically

supplement items that are dropping faster than others. I certainly am not

telling you to avoid glutathione, lipoic acid and NAC or TIDF just keep in

mind that it just takes too long to have any significant impact with those

items.I feel much more comfortable with oral DMPS than trans-dermal, and

through 12 years and 100's of children it is a very safe way to go as long

as you monitor the child with CBC'c, renal and liver function and mineral

analyses. Sincerely, SB Edelson

B. Edelson, M.D., F.A.A.E.M.

P.O. Box 566863

Atlanta, Georgia 31156

> Jim:

>

> I'll have to find Dr. Buttar's information at home,and I'm at work right

> now, but I wanted to let you know that there are two doctors in the

> Atlanta area now using TD-DMPS and following Buttar's protocol: Dr.

> Lee and Dr. Guest. We just completed the preliminary

> testing required by Buttar, and when those results are in, will start

> with the DMPS. We just had a phone appointment with him, which wasn't

> very informative, but we knew what we were starting already, so we

> didn't have many questions. The initial lab testing and phone

> appointment cost us about $2,000. I'm not sure what the expense for

> the DMPS will be each month.

>

> If you want lots more info., sign onto the AutismBiomedGa group,

> look around in the files, and ask questions. Some of the parents on

> that group are already using DMPS.

>

> We have using glutathione, TTFD, and DMSA for about six months, and have

> seen lots of metals coming out, and some improvements with our son, but

> nothing " dramatic " . Enough to keep it up, though:)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> " Jim " <jgs3@...>

> Sent by: autism

> 07/20/2005 11:22 AM

> Please respond to

> autism

>

>

> To

> autism

> cc

>

> Subject

> Re: Bio-medical info

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ,

>

> Do you have the contact information for Dr. Buttar you can share. We

> are trying to get hooked up with him and would also be interested in

> any feedback you might care to share.

>

> Jim

>

>

>> Jane:

>>

>> That would be great! We are doing chelation with TTFD right now,

> and will

>> move forward with DMPS and eventually hope to work with Dr. Buttar

> in

>> North Carolina (we have an appointment in June). We would

> definitely join

>> a local biomed group.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> " Jane Romdalvik " <rominick@a...>

>> 12/30/2004 09:31 PM

>> Please respond to

>> autism

>>

>>

>> To

>> <autism >

>> cc

>>

>> Subject

>> Re: Bio-medical info

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> So then I wouldn't be stepping on any toes if I created one

> ( group

>> for biomed locally)? I ran one in the last place I lived and

> really miss

>> the local support while going through the chelation ( currently TD-

> DMPS)

>> and all of the other crazy stuff we do. I belong to all of the

> other great

>> groups out there, but there is a lot to be said for having a small

> local

>> biomedical support group, especially online. It sounds to me like

> there

>> are at least a few of us in this boat here.

>>

>> Jane

>> Mama to 7 (ASD) and 4 (NT)

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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For those who are interested. Glutathione ,TidF are the weakest of

chelators and should nevere be relied on to detoxify these children. DMSA

is also a weak systemic chelator of mercury and is a little better for

leas. DMSA is a very important adjunctive chelator because there is some

good evidence from Russian work that it does get into the brain and DMPS

doesn't. The best combinations of therapies are oral DMPS and oral DMSA

for those who would rather stay away from the injections. It is very

important to always give supplemental minerals and measure RBC minerals

every few months during therapy and that way you can specifically

supplement items that are dropping faster than others. I certainly am not

telling you to avoid glutathione, lipoic acid and NAC or TIDF just keep in

mind that it just takes too long to have any significant impact with those

items.I feel much more comfortable with oral DMPS than trans-dermal, and

through 12 years and 100's of children it is a very safe way to go as long

as you monitor the child with CBC'c, renal and liver function and mineral

analyses. Sincerely, SB Edelson

B. Edelson, M.D., F.A.A.E.M.

P.O. Box 566863

Atlanta, Georgia 31156

> Jim:

>

> I'll have to find Dr. Buttar's information at home,and I'm at work right

> now, but I wanted to let you know that there are two doctors in the

> Atlanta area now using TD-DMPS and following Buttar's protocol: Dr.

> Lee and Dr. Guest. We just completed the preliminary

> testing required by Buttar, and when those results are in, will start

> with the DMPS. We just had a phone appointment with him, which wasn't

> very informative, but we knew what we were starting already, so we

> didn't have many questions. The initial lab testing and phone

> appointment cost us about $2,000. I'm not sure what the expense for

> the DMPS will be each month.

>

> If you want lots more info., sign onto the AutismBiomedGa group,

> look around in the files, and ask questions. Some of the parents on

> that group are already using DMPS.

>

> We have using glutathione, TTFD, and DMSA for about six months, and have

> seen lots of metals coming out, and some improvements with our son, but

> nothing " dramatic " . Enough to keep it up, though:)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> " Jim " <jgs3@...>

> Sent by: autism

> 07/20/2005 11:22 AM

> Please respond to

> autism

>

>

> To

> autism

> cc

>

> Subject

> Re: Bio-medical info

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ,

>

> Do you have the contact information for Dr. Buttar you can share. We

> are trying to get hooked up with him and would also be interested in

> any feedback you might care to share.

>

> Jim

>

>

>> Jane:

>>

>> That would be great! We are doing chelation with TTFD right now,

> and will

>> move forward with DMPS and eventually hope to work with Dr. Buttar

> in

>> North Carolina (we have an appointment in June). We would

> definitely join

>> a local biomed group.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> " Jane Romdalvik " <rominick@a...>

>> 12/30/2004 09:31 PM

>> Please respond to

>> autism

>>

>>

>> To

>> <autism >

>> cc

>>

>> Subject

>> Re: Bio-medical info

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> So then I wouldn't be stepping on any toes if I created one

> ( group

>> for biomed locally)? I ran one in the last place I lived and

> really miss

>> the local support while going through the chelation ( currently TD-

> DMPS)

>> and all of the other crazy stuff we do. I belong to all of the

> other great

>> groups out there, but there is a lot to be said for having a small

> local

>> biomedical support group, especially online. It sounds to me like

> there

>> are at least a few of us in this boat here.

>>

>> Jane

>> Mama to 7 (ASD) and 4 (NT)

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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Dr. Edelson;

Can you tell me about low liver enzymes in relationship to Partial Complex 1 mitochondrial

dysfunction, and secondary Carnitine deficiency?

Thank you, - S. GA

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For those who are interested. Glutathione ,TidF are the weakest ofchelators and should nevere be relied on to detoxify these children. DMSAis also a weak systemic chelator of mercury and is a little better forleas. DMSA is a very important adjunctive chelator because there is somegood evidence from Russian work that it does get into the brain and DMPSdoesn't. The best combinations of therapies are oral DMPS and oral DMSAfor those who would rather stay away from the injections. It is veryimportant to always give supplemental minerals and measure RBC mineralsevery few months during therapy and that way you can specificallysupplement items that are dropping faster than others. I certainly am nottelling you to avoid glutathione, lipoic acid and NAC or TIDF just keep inmind that it just takes too long to have any significant impact with thoseitems.I feel much more comfortable with oral DMPS than trans-dermal, andthrough 12 years and 100's of children it is a very safe way to go as longas you monitor the child with CBC'c, renal and liver function and mineralanalyses. Sincerely, SB Edelson B. Edelson, M.D., F.A.A.E.M.P.O. Box 566863Atlanta, Georgia 31156> Jim:>> I'll have to find Dr. Buttar's information at home,and I'm at work right> now, but I wanted to let you know that there are two doctors in the> Atlanta area now using TD-DMPS and following Buttar's protocol: Dr.> Lee and Dr. Guest. We just completed the preliminary> testing required by Buttar, and when those results are in, will start> with the DMPS. We just had a phone appointment with him, which wasn't> very informative, but we knew what we were starting already, so we> didn't have many questions. The initial lab testing and phone> appointment cost us about $2,000. I'm not sure what the expense for> the DMPS will be each month.>> If you want lots more info., sign onto the AutismBiomedGa group,> look around in the files, and ask questions. Some of the parents on> that group are already using DMPS.>> We have using glutathione, TTFD, and DMSA for about six months, and have> seen lots of metals coming out, and some improvements with our son, but> nothing "dramatic". Enough to keep it up, though:)>> >>>>>>>> "Jim" <jgs3@...>> Sent by: autism > 07/20/2005 11:22 AM> Please respond to> autism >>> To> autism > cc>> Subject> Re: Bio-medical info>>>>>>> ,>> Do you have the contact information for Dr. Buttar you can share. We> are trying to get hooked up with him and would also be interested in> any feedback you might care to share.>> Jim>> >> Jane:>>>> That would be great! We are doing chelation with TTFD right now,> and will>> move forward with DMPS and eventually hope to work with Dr. Buttar> in>> North Carolina (we have an appointment in June). We would> definitely join>> a local biomed group.>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Jane Romdalvik" <rominick@a...>>> 12/30/2004 09:31 PM>> Please respond to>> autism >>>>>> To>> <autism >>> cc>>>> Subject>> Re: Bio-medical info>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So then I wouldn't be stepping on any toes if I created one> ( group>> for biomed locally)? I ran one in the last place I lived and> really miss>> the local support while going through the chelation ( currently TD-> DMPS)>> and all of the other crazy stuff we do. I belong to all of the> other great>> groups out there, but there is a lot to be said for having a small> local>> biomedical support group, especially online. It sounds to me like> there>> are at least a few of us in this boat here.>>>> Jane>> Mama to 7 (ASD) and 4 (NT)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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There are several causes of low liver enzymes and carnitine deficiency.

The most common in Autistic children would be related to amino acid

deficiecies. A 24 hour urine done at Great Smokies would be

beneficial.Sincerely, SBE

B. Edelson, M.D., F.A.A.E.M.

P.O. Box 566863

Atlanta, Georgia 31156

> Dr. Edelson;

> Can you tell me about low liver enzymes in relationship to Partial

> Complex 1 mitochondrial dysfunction, and secondary Carnitine

> deficiency?

> Thank you, - S. GA

> Re: Re: Bio-medical info

>

>

> For those who are interested. Glutathione ,TidF are the weakest of

> chelators and should nevere be relied on to detoxify these children.

> DMSA is also a weak systemic chelator of mercury and is a little

> better for leas. DMSA is a very important adjunctive chelator because

> there is some good evidence from Russian work that it does get into

> the brain and DMPS doesn't. The best combinations of therapies are

> oral DMPS and oral DMSA for those who would rather stay away from the

> injections. It is very important to always give supplemental minerals

> and measure RBC minerals every few months during therapy and that way

> you can specifically supplement items that are dropping faster than

> others. I certainly am not telling you to avoid glutathione, lipoic

> acid and NAC or TIDF just keep in mind that it just takes too long to

> have any significant impact with those items.I feel much more

> comfortable with oral DMPS than trans-dermal, and through 12 years and

> 100's of children it is a very safe way to go as long as you monitor

> the child with CBC'c, renal and liver function and mineral analyses.

> Sincerely, SB Edelson

>

> B. Edelson, M.D., F.A.A.E.M.

> P.O. Box 566863

> Atlanta, Georgia 31156

>

> > Jim:

> >

> > I'll have to find Dr. Buttar's information at home,and I'm at work

> right

> > now, but I wanted to let you know that there are two doctors in the

> > Atlanta area now using TD-DMPS and following Buttar's protocol: Dr.

> Lee and Dr. Guest. We just completed the preliminary

> testing required by Buttar, and when those results are in, will

> start with the DMPS. We just had a phone appointment with him,

> which wasn't very informative, but we knew what we were starting

> already, so we didn't have many questions. The initial lab testing

> and phone appointment cost us about $2,000. I'm not sure what the

> expense for the DMPS will be each month.

> >

> > If you want lots more info., sign onto the AutismBiomedGa

> group, look around in the files, and ask questions. Some of the

> parents on that group are already using DMPS.

> >

> > We have using glutathione, TTFD, and DMSA for about six months, and

> have

> > seen lots of metals coming out, and some improvements with our son,

> but nothing " dramatic " . Enough to keep it up, though:)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > " Jim " <jgs3@...>

> > Sent by: autism

> > 07/20/2005 11:22 AM

> > Please respond to

> > autism

> >

> >

> > To

> > autism

> > cc

> >

> > Subject

> > Re: Bio-medical info

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ,

> >

> > Do you have the contact information for Dr. Buttar you can share.

> We are trying to get hooked up with him and would also be interested

> in any feedback you might care to share.

> >

> > Jim

> >

> >

> >> Jane:

> >>

> >> That would be great! We are doing chelation with TTFD right now,

> > and will

> >> move forward with DMPS and eventually hope to work with Dr. Buttar

> > in

> >> North Carolina (we have an appointment in June). We would

> > definitely join

> >> a local biomed group.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> " Jane Romdalvik " <rominick@a...>

> >> 12/30/2004 09:31 PM

> >> Please respond to

> >> autism

> >>

> >>

> >> To

> >> <autism >

> >> cc

> >>

> >> Subject

> >> Re: Bio-medical info

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> So then I wouldn't be stepping on any toes if I created one

> > ( group

> >> for biomed locally)? I ran one in the last place I lived and

> > really miss

> >> the local support while going through the chelation ( currently TD-

> > DMPS)

> >> and all of the other crazy stuff we do. I belong to all of the

> > other great

> >> groups out there, but there is a lot to be said for having a small

> > local

> >> biomedical support group, especially online. It sounds to me like

> > there

> >> are at least a few of us in this boat here.

> >>

> >> Jane

> >> Mama to 7 (ASD) and 4 (NT)

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

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just my two cents here...if one already knows of mitochondrial disease and

carnitine deficiency, why would a 24 hour urine from a specific lab (instead

of one working specifically with mito probs i.e., kennedy krieger

instititue) tell anything new? terry poling

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>>

>>

>> For those who are interested. Glutathione ,TidF are the weakest of

>> chelators and should nevere be relied on to detoxify these children.

>> DMSA is also a weak systemic chelator of mercury and is a little

>> better for leas. DMSA is a very important adjunctive chelator because

>> there is some good evidence from Russian work that it does get into

>> the brain and DMPS doesn't. The best combinations of therapies are

>> oral DMPS and oral DMSA for those who would rather stay away from the

>> injections. It is very important to always give supplemental minerals

>> and measure RBC minerals every few months during therapy and that way

>> you can specifically supplement items that are dropping faster than

>> others. I certainly am not telling you to avoid glutathione, lipoic

>> acid and NAC or TIDF just keep in mind that it just takes too long to

>> have any significant impact with those items.I feel much more

>> comfortable with oral DMPS than trans-dermal, and through 12 years and

>> 100's of children it is a very safe way to go as long as you monitor

>> the child with CBC'c, renal and liver function and mineral analyses.

>> Sincerely, SB Edelson

>>

>> B. Edelson, M.D., F.A.A.E.M.

>> P.O. Box 566863

>> Atlanta, Georgia 31156

>>

>> > Jim:

>> >

>> > I'll have to find Dr. Buttar's information at home,and I'm at work

>> right

>> > now, but I wanted to let you know that there are two doctors in the

>> > Atlanta area now using TD-DMPS and following Buttar's protocol: Dr.

>> Lee and Dr. Guest. We just completed the preliminary

>> testing required by Buttar, and when those results are in, will

>> start with the DMPS. We just had a phone appointment with him,

>> which wasn't very informative, but we knew what we were starting

>> already, so we didn't have many questions. The initial lab testing

>> and phone appointment cost us about $2,000. I'm not sure what the

>> expense for the DMPS will be each month.

>> >

>> > If you want lots more info., sign onto the AutismBiomedGa

>> group, look around in the files, and ask questions. Some of the

>> parents on that group are already using DMPS.

>> >

>> > We have using glutathione, TTFD, and DMSA for about six months, and

>> have

>> > seen lots of metals coming out, and some improvements with our son,

>> but nothing " dramatic " . Enough to keep it up, though:)

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > " Jim " <jgs3@...>

>> > Sent by: autism

>> > 07/20/2005 11:22 AM

>> > Please respond to

>> > autism

>> >

>> >

>> > To

>> > autism

>> > cc

>> >

>> > Subject

>> > Re: Bio-medical info

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > ,

>> >

>> > Do you have the contact information for Dr. Buttar you can share.

>> We are trying to get hooked up with him and would also be interested

>> in any feedback you might care to share.

>> >

>> > Jim

>> >

>> >

>> >> Jane:

>> >>

>> >> That would be great! We are doing chelation with TTFD right now,

>> > and will

>> >> move forward with DMPS and eventually hope to work with Dr. Buttar

>> > in

>> >> North Carolina (we have an appointment in June). We would

>> > definitely join

>> >> a local biomed group.

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> " Jane Romdalvik " <rominick@a...>

>> >> 12/30/2004 09:31 PM

>> >> Please respond to

>> >> autism

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> To

>> >> <autism >

>> >> cc

>> >>

>> >> Subject

>> >> Re: Bio-medical info

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> So then I wouldn't be stepping on any toes if I created one

>> > ( group

>> >> for biomed locally)? I ran one in the last place I lived and

>> > really miss

>> >> the local support while going through the chelation ( currently TD-

>> > DMPS)

>> >> and all of the other crazy stuff we do. I belong to all of the

>> > other great

>> >> groups out there, but there is a lot to be said for having a small

>> > local

>> >> biomedical support group, especially online. It sounds to me like

>> > there

>> >> are at least a few of us in this boat here.

>> >>

>> >> Jane

>> >> Mama to 7 (ASD) and 4 (NT)

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

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Hi Terry-

You may not know this but you can view the entire DAN conference for free online that discusses the posted topics in depth at www.DANwebcast.com

Both Dr Levinson and Dr Nuebrander would be of interest to you.

Log on and they will Email you a password it is totally free. Dr. McCandeless also has a fabulous book called Children with Starving Brains that is a great BioMedical primer and as far as I know she has no history of lawsuits, substance abuse or fraud. Great plains in coming with Dr. Buttar and Shaw to Atlanta for an outreach clinic at Simpsonwood it would be worth attending to dive into BioMed. I was shocked at how much internally was wrong with my child when tested. Both Dr. Levinson and McCandless can steer you in the direction of proper testing. Now 1 year into doctor supervised chelation my son is rapidly improving. We are seeing vast improvement using mB12 shots every third day as well. I am not an angry person as accused by Mr. Edelson. On the contrary my kid is recovering and I'm thrilled.

I merely want to see people get on the right track and help their children.

Blessings

Terry Poling <terrypoling@...> wrote:

just my two cents here...if one already knows of mitochondrial disease and carnitine deficiency, why would a 24 hour urine from a specific lab (instead of one working specifically with mito probs i.e., kennedy krieger instititue) tell anything new? terry poling Re: Re: Bio-medical info>>>>>> For those who are interested. Glutathione ,TidF are the weakest of>> chelators and should nevere be relied on to detoxify these children.>> DMSA is also a weak systemic chelator of mercury and is a little>> better for leas. DMSA is a very important adjunctive chelator because>> there is some good evidence from Russian work that it does get into>> the brain and DMPS

doesn't. The best combinations of therapies are>> oral DMPS and oral DMSA for those who would rather stay away from the>> injections. It is very important to always give supplemental minerals>> and measure RBC minerals every few months during therapy and that way>> you can specifically supplement items that are dropping faster than>> others. I certainly am not telling you to avoid glutathione, lipoic>> acid and NAC or TIDF just keep in mind that it just takes too long to>> have any significant impact with those items.I feel much more>> comfortable with oral DMPS than trans-dermal, and through 12 years and>> 100's of children it is a very safe way to go as long as you monitor>> the child with CBC'c, renal and liver function and mineral analyses.>> Sincerely, SB Edelson>>>> B. Edelson, M.D., F.A.A.E.M.>> P.O. Box

566863>> Atlanta, Georgia 31156>>>> > Jim:>> >>> > I'll have to find Dr. Buttar's information at home,and I'm at work>> right>> > now, but I wanted to let you know that there are two doctors in the>> > Atlanta area now using TD-DMPS and following Buttar's protocol: Dr.>> Lee and Dr. Guest. We just completed the preliminary>> testing required by Buttar, and when those results are in, will>> start with the DMPS. We just had a phone appointment with him,>> which wasn't very informative, but we knew what we were starting>> already, so we didn't have many questions. The initial lab testing>> and phone appointment cost us about $2,000. I'm not sure what the>> expense for the

DMPS will be each month.>> >>> > If you want lots more info., sign onto the AutismBiomedGa >> group, look around in the files, and ask questions. Some of the>> parents on that group are already using DMPS.>> >>> > We have using glutathione, TTFD, and DMSA for about six months, and>> have>> > seen lots of metals coming out, and some improvements with our son,>> but nothing "dramatic". Enough to keep it up, though:)>> >>> > >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > "Jim" <jgs3@...>>> > Sent by:

autism >> > 07/20/2005 11:22 AM>> > Please respond to>> > autism >> >>> >>> > To>> > autism >> > cc>> >>> > Subject>> > Re: Bio-medical info>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > ,>> >>> > Do you have the contact information for Dr. Buttar you can share.>> We are trying to get hooked up with him and would also be interested>> in any feedback you might care to

share.>> >>> > Jim>> >>> > >> >> Jane:>> >>>> >> That would be great! We are doing chelation with TTFD right now,>> > and will>> >> move forward with DMPS and eventually hope to work with Dr. Buttar>> > in>> >> North Carolina (we have an appointment in June). We would>> > definitely join>> >> a local biomed group.>> >>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>>

>>>> >> "Jane Romdalvik" <rominick@a...>>> >> 12/30/2004 09:31 PM>> >> Please respond to>> >> autism >> >>>> >>>> >> To>> >> <autism >>> >> cc>> >>>> >> Subject>> >> Re: Bio-medical info>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> So then I wouldn't be stepping on any toes if I created one>> > (

group>> >> for biomed locally)? I ran one in the last place I lived and>> > really miss>> >> the local support while going through the chelation ( currently TD->> > DMPS)>> >> and all of the other crazy stuff we do. I belong to all of the>> > other great>> >> groups out there, but there is a lot to be said for having a small>> > local>> >> biomedical support group, especially online. It sounds to me like>> > there>> >> are at least a few of us in this boat here.>> >>>> >> Jane>> >> Mama to 7 (ASD) and 4 (NT)>> >>>> >>>>

>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>

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Thank you for the reply. My son has Partial Complex 1 & secondary carnitine deficiency. I just happened to run across his last labs. His amino acids are within limits - we do supplement in that area also. He cannot handle time release & "build-up" type meds. He & his brother both have low alanine & high pyruvate also.

-S. GA

Re: Re: Bio-medical info>>> For those who are interested. Glutathione ,TidF are the weakest of> chelators and should nevere be relied on to detoxify these children.> DMSA is also a weak systemic chelator of mercury and is a little> better for leas. DMSA is a very important adjunctive chelator because> there is some good evidence from Russian work that it does get into> the brain and DMPS doesn't. The best combinations of therapies are> oral DMPS and oral DMSA for those who would rather stay away from the> injections. It is very important to always give supplemental minerals> and measure RBC minerals every few months during therapy and that way> you can specifically supplement items that are dropping faster than> others. I certainly am not telling you to avoid glutathione, lipoic> acid and NAC or TIDF just keep in mind that it just takes too long to> have any significant impact with those items.I feel much more> comfortable with oral DMPS than trans-dermal, and through 12 years and> 100's of children it is a very safe way to go as long as you monitor> the child with CBC'c, renal and liver function and mineral analyses.> Sincerely, SB Edelson>> B. Edelson, M.D., F.A.A.E.M.> P.O. Box 566863> Atlanta, Georgia 31156>> > Jim:> >> > I'll have to find Dr. Buttar's information at home,and I'm at work> right> > now, but I wanted to let you know that there are two doctors in the> > Atlanta area now using TD-DMPS and following Buttar's protocol: Dr.> Lee and Dr. Guest. We just completed the preliminary> testing required by Buttar, and when those results are in, will> start with the DMPS. We just had a phone appointment with him,> which wasn't very informative, but we knew what we were starting> already, so we didn't have many questions. The initial lab testing> and phone appointment cost us about $2,000. I'm not sure what the> expense for the DMPS will be each month.> >> > If you want lots more info., sign onto the AutismBiomedGa > group, look around in the files, and ask questions. Some of the> parents on that group are already using DMPS.> >> > We have using glutathione, TTFD, and DMSA for about six months, and> have> > seen lots of metals coming out, and some improvements with our son,> but nothing "dramatic". Enough to keep it up, though:)> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Jim" <jgs3@...>> > Sent by: autism > > 07/20/2005 11:22 AM> > Please respond to> > autism > >> >> > To> > autism > > cc> >> > Subject> > Re: Bio-medical info> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ,> >> > Do you have the contact information for Dr. Buttar you can share.> We are trying to get hooked up with him and would also be interested> in any feedback you might care to share.> >> > Jim> >> > > >> Jane:> >>> >> That would be great! We are doing chelation with TTFD right now,> > and will> >> move forward with DMPS and eventually hope to work with Dr. Buttar> > in> >> North Carolina (we have an appointment in June). We would> > definitely join> >> a local biomed group.> >>> >> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >> "Jane Romdalvik" <rominick@a...>> >> 12/30/2004 09:31 PM> >> Please respond to> >> autism > >>> >>> >> To> >> <autism >> >> cc> >>> >> Subject> >> Re: Bio-medical info> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> So then I wouldn't be stepping on any toes if I created one> > ( group> >> for biomed locally)? I ran one in the last place I lived and> > really miss> >> the local support while going through the chelation ( currently TD-> > DMPS)> >> and all of the other crazy stuff we do. I belong to all of the> > other great> >> groups out there, but there is a lot to be said for having a small> > local> >> biomedical support group, especially online. It sounds to me like> > there> >> are at least a few of us in this boat here.> >>> >> Jane> >> Mama to 7 (ASD) and 4 (NT)> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>

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Were these amino acids done from a 24 hour one at Great Smokies. If not I

am not sure I would trust the results and interpretation.SBE

B. Edelson, M.D., F.A.A.E.M.

P.O. Box 566863

Atlanta, Georgia 31156

> Thank you for the reply. My son has Partial Complex 1 & secondary

> carnitine deficiency. I just happened to run across his last labs. His

> amino acids are within limits - we do supplement in that area also. He

> cannot handle time release & " build-up " type meds. He & his brother both

> have low alanine & high pyruvate also. -S. GA

>

>

> Re: Re: Bio-medical info

> >

> >

> > For those who are interested. Glutathione ,TidF are the weakest of

> > chelators and should nevere be relied on to detoxify these children.

> DMSA is also a weak systemic chelator of mercury and is a little

> better for leas. DMSA is a very important adjunctive chelator

> because there is some good evidence from Russian work that it does

> get into the brain and DMPS doesn't. The best combinations of

> therapies are oral DMPS and oral DMSA for those who would rather

> stay away from the injections. It is very important to always give

> supplemental minerals and measure RBC minerals every few months

> during therapy and that way you can specifically supplement items

> that are dropping faster than others. I certainly am not telling you

> to avoid glutathione, lipoic acid and NAC or TIDF just keep in mind

> that it just takes too long to have any significant impact with

> those items.I feel much more

> > comfortable with oral DMPS than trans-dermal, and through 12 years

> and 100's of children it is a very safe way to go as long as you

> monitor the child with CBC'c, renal and liver function and mineral

> analyses. Sincerely, SB Edelson

> >

> > B. Edelson, M.D., F.A.A.E.M.

> > P.O. Box 566863

> > Atlanta, Georgia 31156

> >

> > > Jim:

> > >

> > > I'll have to find Dr. Buttar's information at home,and I'm at

> work

> > right

> > > now, but I wanted to let you know that there are two doctors in

> the

> > > Atlanta area now using TD-DMPS and following Buttar's protocol:

> Dr.

> > Lee and Dr. Guest. We just completed the preliminary

> testing required by Buttar, and when those results are in, will

> start with the DMPS. We just had a phone appointment with him,

> which wasn't very informative, but we knew what we were starting

> already, so we didn't have many questions. The initial lab testing

> and phone appointment cost us about $2,000. I'm not sure what the

> expense for the DMPS will be each month.

> > >

> > > If you want lots more info., sign onto the AutismBiomedGa

> > group, look around in the files, and ask questions. Some of the

> parents on that group are already using DMPS.

> > >

> > > We have using glutathione, TTFD, and DMSA for about six months,

> and

> > have

> > > seen lots of metals coming out, and some improvements with our

> son,

> > but nothing " dramatic " . Enough to keep it up, though:)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > " Jim " <jgs3@...>

> > > Sent by: autism

> > > 07/20/2005 11:22 AM

> > > Please respond to

> > > autism

> > >

> > >

> > > To

> > > autism

> > > cc

> > >

> > > Subject

> > > Re: Bio-medical info

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ,

> > >

> > > Do you have the contact information for Dr. Buttar you can

> share.

> > We are trying to get hooked up with him and would also be interested

> > in any feedback you might care to share.

> > >

> > > Jim

> > >

> > >

> > >> Jane:

> > >>

> > >> That would be great! We are doing chelation with TTFD right

> now,

> > > and will

> > >> move forward with DMPS and eventually hope to work with Dr.

> Buttar

> > > in

> > >> North Carolina (we have an appointment in June). We would

> > > definitely join

> > >> a local biomed group.

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> " Jane Romdalvik " <rominick@a...>

> > >> 12/30/2004 09:31 PM

> > >> Please respond to

> > >> autism

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> To

> > >> <autism >

> > >> cc

> > >>

> > >> Subject

> > >> Re: Bio-medical info

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> So then I wouldn't be stepping on any toes if I created one

> > > ( group

> > >> for biomed locally)? I ran one in the last place I lived and

> > > really miss

> > >> the local support while going through the chelation ( currently

> TD-

> > > DMPS)

> > >> and all of the other crazy stuff we do. I belong to all of the

> > > other great

> > >> groups out there, but there is a lot to be said for having a

> small

> > > local

> > >> biomedical support group, especially online. It sounds to me

> like

> > > there

> > >> are at least a few of us in this boat here.

> > >>

> > >> Jane

> > >> Mama to 7 (ASD) and 4 (NT)

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

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You continue to refer to me without having any factual information. Since

when is an accusation equal to guilt. By the way your Dr. McCandless took

all the information in her book from other people's writing including

mine. She has never treated or healed any autistic children. Her only

knowlege is what she has read from other researchers. Be careful who you

ask for help with your children. Make sure they have a large knowledge

based in applied immunology, toxicology, clinical nutritional

biochemisytr, environmental and free radical medicine. Sincerely,SBE

B. Edelson, M.D., F.A.A.E.M.

P.O. Box 566863

Atlanta, Georgia 31156

> Hi Terry-

> You may not know this but you can view the entire DAN conference for

> free online that discusses the posted topics in depth at

> www.DANwebcast.com Both Dr Levinson and Dr Nuebrander would be of

> interest to you.

> Log on and they will Email you a password it is totally free. Dr.

> McCandeless also has a fabulous book called Children with Starving

> Brains that is a great BioMedical primer and as far as I know she has no

> history of lawsuits, substance abuse or fraud. Great plains in coming

> with Dr. Buttar and Shaw to Atlanta for an outreach clinic at

> Simpsonwood it would be worth attending to dive into BioMed. I was

> shocked at how much internally was wrong with my child when tested. Both

> Dr. Levinson and McCandless can steer you in the direction of proper

> testing. Now 1 year into doctor supervised chelation my son is rapidly

> improving. We are seeing vast improvement using mB12 shots every third

> day as well. I am not an angry person as accused by Mr. Edelson. On the

> contrary my kid is recovering and I'm thrilled. I merely want to see

> people get on the right track and help their children. Blessings

>

>

>

> Terry Poling <terrypoling@...> wrote:

> just my two cents here...if one already knows of mitochondrial disease

> and carnitine deficiency, why would a 24 hour urine from a specific lab

> (instead of one working specifically with mito probs i.e., kennedy

> krieger instititue) tell anything new? terry poling

> Re: Re: Bio-medical info

>>>

>>>

>>> For those who are interested. Glutathione ,TidF are the weakest of

>>> chelators and should nevere be relied on to detoxify these children.

>>> DMSA is also a weak systemic chelator of mercury and is a little

>>> better for leas. DMSA is a very important adjunctive chelator because

>>> there is some good evidence from Russian work that it does get into

>>> the brain and DMPS doesn't. The best combinations of therapies are

>>> oral DMPS and oral DMSA for those who would rather stay away from the

>>> injections. It is very important to always give supplemental minerals

>>> and measure RBC minerals every few months during therapy and that way

>>> you can specifically supplement items that are dropping faster than

>>> others. I certainly am not telling you to avoid glutathione, lipoic

>>> acid and NAC or TIDF just keep in mind that it just takes too long to

>>> have any significant impact with those items.I feel much more

>>> comfortable with oral DMPS than trans-dermal, and through 12 years

>>> and 100's of children it is a very safe way to go as long as you

>>> monitor the child with CBC'c, renal and liver function and mineral

>>> analyses. Sincerely, SB Edelson

>>>

>>> B. Edelson, M.D., F.A.A.E.M.

>>> P.O. Box 566863

>>> Atlanta, Georgia 31156

>>>

>>> > Jim:

>>> >

>>> > I'll have to find Dr. Buttar's information at home,and I'm at

>>> work

>>> right

>>> > now, but I wanted to let you know that there are two doctors in

>>> the

>>> > Atlanta area now using TD-DMPS and following Buttar's protocol:

>>> Dr.

>>> Lee and Dr. Guest. We just completed the preliminary

>>> testing required by Buttar, and when those results are in, will

>>> start with the DMPS. We just had a phone appointment with him,

>>> which wasn't very informative, but we knew what we were starting

>>> already, so we didn't have many questions. The initial lab testing

>>> and phone appointment cost us about $2,000. I'm not sure what the

>>> expense for the DMPS will be each month.

>>> >

>>> > If you want lots more info., sign onto the AutismBiomedGa

>>> group, look around in the files, and ask questions. Some of the

>>> parents on that group are already using DMPS.

>>> >

>>> > We have using glutathione, TTFD, and DMSA for about six months,

>>> and

>>> have

>>> > seen lots of metals coming out, and some improvements with our

>>> son,

>>> but nothing " dramatic " . Enough to keep it up, though:)

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> > " Jim " <jgs3@...>

>>> > Sent by: autism

>>> > 07/20/2005 11:22 AM

>>> > Please respond to

>>> > autism

>>> >

>>> >

>>> > To

>>> > autism

>>> > cc

>>> >

>>> > Subject

>>> > Re: Bio-medical info

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> > ,

>>> >

>>> > Do you have the contact information for Dr. Buttar you can share.

>>> We are trying to get hooked up with him and would also be interested

>>> in any feedback you might care to share.

>>> >

>>> > Jim

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >> Jane:

>>> >>

>>> >> That would be great! We are doing chelation with TTFD right

>>> now,

>>> > and will

>>> >> move forward with DMPS and eventually hope to work with Dr.

>>> Buttar

>>> > in

>>> >> North Carolina (we have an appointment in June). We would

>>> > definitely join

>>> >> a local biomed group.

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >> " Jane Romdalvik " <rominick@a...>

>>> >> 12/30/2004 09:31 PM

>>> >> Please respond to

>>> >> autism

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >> To

>>> >> <autism >

>>> >> cc

>>> >>

>>> >> Subject

>>> >> Re: Bio-medical info

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >> So then I wouldn't be stepping on any toes if I created one

>>> > ( group

>>> >> for biomed locally)? I ran one in the last place I lived and

>>> > really miss

>>> >> the local support while going through the chelation ( currently

>>> TD-

>>> > DMPS)

>>> >> and all of the other crazy stuff we do. I belong to all of the

>>> > other great

>>> >> groups out there, but there is a lot to be said for having a

>>> small

>>> > local

>>> >> biomedical support group, especially online. It sounds to me

>>> like

>>> > there

>>> >> are at least a few of us in this boat here.

>>> >>

>>> >> Jane

>>> >> Mama to 7 (ASD) and 4 (NT)

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

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Sincerely,SBEThe work done at Great Smokies was organized and interpreted

by Dr. Pangborn who I think Has one of the best backgrounds in

FUMCTIONAL AMINO ACID BIOCHEMISTRY which is totally different than what

you get at any other traditional lab. For example I can tell from that

test about intestinal permeability, maldigestion, toxicities, intestinal

overgrowth and many other abnormalities that you just can't get without

his interpretation

B. Edelson, M.D., F.A.A.E.M.

P.O. Box 566863

Atlanta, Georgia 31156

> just my two cents here...if one already knows of mitochondrial disease

> and carnitine deficiency, why would a 24 hour urine from a specific lab

> (instead of one working specifically with mito probs i.e., kennedy

> krieger instititue) tell anything new? terry poling

> Re: Re: Bio-medical info

>>>

>>>

>>> For those who are interested. Glutathione ,TidF are the weakest of

>>> chelators and should nevere be relied on to detoxify these children.

>>> DMSA is also a weak systemic chelator of mercury and is a little

>>> better for leas. DMSA is a very important adjunctive chelator because

>>> there is some good evidence from Russian work that it does get into

>>> the brain and DMPS doesn't. The best combinations of therapies are

>>> oral DMPS and oral DMSA for those who would rather stay away from the

>>> injections. It is very important to always give supplemental minerals

>>> and measure RBC minerals every few months during therapy and that way

>>> you can specifically supplement items that are dropping faster than

>>> others. I certainly am not telling you to avoid glutathione, lipoic

>>> acid and NAC or TIDF just keep in mind that it just takes too long to

>>> have any significant impact with those items.I feel much more

>>> comfortable with oral DMPS than trans-dermal, and through 12 years

>>> and 100's of children it is a very safe way to go as long as you

>>> monitor the child with CBC'c, renal and liver function and mineral

>>> analyses. Sincerely, SB Edelson

>>>

>>> B. Edelson, M.D., F.A.A.E.M.

>>> P.O. Box 566863

>>> Atlanta, Georgia 31156

>>>

>>> > Jim:

>>> >

>>> > I'll have to find Dr. Buttar's information at home,and I'm at

>>> work

>>> right

>>> > now, but I wanted to let you know that there are two doctors in

>>> the

>>> > Atlanta area now using TD-DMPS and following Buttar's protocol:

>>> Dr.

>>> Lee and Dr. Guest. We just completed the preliminary

>>> testing required by Buttar, and when those results are in, will

>>> start with the DMPS. We just had a phone appointment with him,

>>> which wasn't very informative, but we knew what we were starting

>>> already, so we didn't have many questions. The initial lab testing

>>> and phone appointment cost us about $2,000. I'm not sure what the

>>> expense for the DMPS will be each month.

>>> >

>>> > If you want lots more info., sign onto the AutismBiomedGa

>>> group, look around in the files, and ask questions. Some of the

>>> parents on that group are already using DMPS.

>>> >

>>> > We have using glutathione, TTFD, and DMSA for about six months,

>>> and

>>> have

>>> > seen lots of metals coming out, and some improvements with our

>>> son,

>>> but nothing " dramatic " . Enough to keep it up, though:)

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> > " Jim " <jgs3@...>

>>> > Sent by: autism

>>> > 07/20/2005 11:22 AM

>>> > Please respond to

>>> > autism

>>> >

>>> >

>>> > To

>>> > autism

>>> > cc

>>> >

>>> > Subject

>>> > Re: Bio-medical info

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> > ,

>>> >

>>> > Do you have the contact information for Dr. Buttar you can share.

>>> We are trying to get hooked up with him and would also be interested

>>> in any feedback you might care to share.

>>> >

>>> > Jim

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >> Jane:

>>> >>

>>> >> That would be great! We are doing chelation with TTFD right

>>> now,

>>> > and will

>>> >> move forward with DMPS and eventually hope to work with Dr.

>>> Buttar

>>> > in

>>> >> North Carolina (we have an appointment in June). We would

>>> > definitely join

>>> >> a local biomed group.

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >> " Jane Romdalvik " <rominick@a...>

>>> >> 12/30/2004 09:31 PM

>>> >> Please respond to

>>> >> autism

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >> To

>>> >> <autism >

>>> >> cc

>>> >>

>>> >> Subject

>>> >> Re: Bio-medical info

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >> So then I wouldn't be stepping on any toes if I created one

>>> > ( group

>>> >> for biomed locally)? I ran one in the last place I lived and

>>> > really miss

>>> >> the local support while going through the chelation ( currently

>>> TD-

>>> > DMPS)

>>> >> and all of the other crazy stuff we do. I belong to all of the

>>> > other great

>>> >> groups out there, but there is a lot to be said for having a

>>> small

>>> > local

>>> >> biomedical support group, especially online. It sounds to me

>>> like

>>> > there

>>> >> are at least a few of us in this boat here.

>>> >>

>>> >> Jane

>>> >> Mama to 7 (ASD) and 4 (NT)

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >>

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Is Great Smokies the same as Great Plains?

Missy--SAHM/Student Again

I am who I am because that's who I am.

--- 6, Asperger's

All kids are gifted, some just open their

packages earlier than others.

-- Carr

Re: Re: Bio-medical info

>> >

>> >

>> > For those who are interested. Glutathione ,TidF are the weakest of

>> > chelators and should nevere be relied on to detoxify these children.

>> DMSA is also a weak systemic chelator of mercury and is a little

>> better for leas. DMSA is a very important adjunctive chelator

>> because there is some good evidence from Russian work that it does

>> get into the brain and DMPS doesn't. The best combinations of

>> therapies are oral DMPS and oral DMSA for those who would rather

>> stay away from the injections. It is very important to always give

>> supplemental minerals and measure RBC minerals every few months

>> during therapy and that way you can specifically supplement items

>> that are dropping faster than others. I certainly am not telling you

>> to avoid glutathione, lipoic acid and NAC or TIDF just keep in mind

>> that it just takes too long to have any significant impact with

>> those items.I feel much more

>> > comfortable with oral DMPS than trans-dermal, and through 12 years

>> and 100's of children it is a very safe way to go as long as you

>> monitor the child with CBC'c, renal and liver function and mineral

>> analyses. Sincerely, SB Edelson

>> >

>> > B. Edelson, M.D., F.A.A.E.M.

>> > P.O. Box 566863

>> > Atlanta, Georgia 31156

>> >

>> > > Jim:

>> > >

>> > > I'll have to find Dr. Buttar's information at home,and I'm at

>> work

>> > right

>> > > now, but I wanted to let you know that there are two doctors in

>> the

>> > > Atlanta area now using TD-DMPS and following Buttar's protocol:

>> Dr.

>> > Lee and Dr. Guest. We just completed the preliminary

>> testing required by Buttar, and when those results are in, will

>> start with the DMPS. We just had a phone appointment with him,

>> which wasn't very informative, but we knew what we were starting

>> already, so we didn't have many questions. The initial lab testing

>> and phone appointment cost us about $2,000. I'm not sure what the

>> expense for the DMPS will be each month.

>> > >

>> > > If you want lots more info., sign onto the AutismBiomedGa

>> > group, look around in the files, and ask questions. Some of the

>> parents on that group are already using DMPS.

>> > >

>> > > We have using glutathione, TTFD, and DMSA for about six months,

>> and

>> > have

>> > > seen lots of metals coming out, and some improvements with our

>> son,

>> > but nothing " dramatic " . Enough to keep it up, though:)

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > " Jim " <jgs3@...>

>> > > Sent by: autism

>> > > 07/20/2005 11:22 AM

>> > > Please respond to

>> > > autism

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > To

>> > > autism

>> > > cc

>> > >

>> > > Subject

>> > > Re: Bio-medical info

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > ,

>> > >

>> > > Do you have the contact information for Dr. Buttar you can

>> share.

>> > We are trying to get hooked up with him and would also be interested

>> > in any feedback you might care to share.

>> > >

>> > > Jim

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >> Jane:

>> > >>

>> > >> That would be great! We are doing chelation with TTFD right

>> now,

>> > > and will

>> > >> move forward with DMPS and eventually hope to work with Dr.

>> Buttar

>> > > in

>> > >> North Carolina (we have an appointment in June). We would

>> > > definitely join

>> > >> a local biomed group.

>> > >>

>> > >>

>> > >>

>> > >>

>> > >>

>> > >>

>> > >> " Jane Romdalvik " <rominick@a...>

>> > >> 12/30/2004 09:31 PM

>> > >> Please respond to

>> > >> autism

>> > >>

>> > >>

>> > >> To

>> > >> <autism >

>> > >> cc

>> > >>

>> > >> Subject

>> > >> Re: Bio-medical info

>> > >>

>> > >>

>> > >>

>> > >>

>> > >>

>> > >>

>> > >>

>> > >> So then I wouldn't be stepping on any toes if I created one

>> > > ( group

>> > >> for biomed locally)? I ran one in the last place I lived and

>> > > really miss

>> > >> the local support while going through the chelation ( currently

>> TD-

>> > > DMPS)

>> > >> and all of the other crazy stuff we do. I belong to all of the

>> > > other great

>> > >> groups out there, but there is a lot to be said for having a

>> small

>> > > local

>> > >> biomedical support group, especially online. It sounds to me

>> like

>> > > there

>> > >> are at least a few of us in this boat here.

>> > >>

>> > >> Jane

>> > >> Mama to 7 (ASD) and 4 (NT)

>> > >>

>> > >>

>> > >>

>> > >>

>> > >>

>> > >>

>> > >>

>> > >>

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Nope 2 different labs.Missy Feldhaus <itchy10@...> wrote:

Is Great Smokies the same as Great Plains?Missy--SAHM/Student AgainI am who I am because that's who I am.--- 6, Asperger'sAll kids are gifted, some just open theirpackages earlier than others.-- Carr Re: Re: Bio-medical info>> >>> >>> > For those who are interested. Glutathione ,TidF are the weakest of>> > chelators and should nevere be relied on

to detoxify these children.>> DMSA is also a weak systemic chelator of mercury and is a little>> better for leas. DMSA is a very important adjunctive chelator>> because there is some good evidence from Russian work that it does>> get into the brain and DMPS doesn't. The best combinations of>> therapies are oral DMPS and oral DMSA for those who would rather>> stay away from the injections. It is very important to always give>> supplemental minerals and measure RBC minerals every few months>> during therapy and that way you can specifically supplement items>> that are dropping faster than others. I certainly am not telling you>> to avoid glutathione, lipoic acid and NAC or TIDF just keep in mind>> that it just takes too long to have any significant impact with>> those items.I feel much more>> > comfortable with oral DMPS than trans-dermal,

and through 12 years>> and 100's of children it is a very safe way to go as long as you>> monitor the child with CBC'c, renal and liver function and mineral>> analyses. Sincerely, SB Edelson>> >>> > B. Edelson, M.D., F.A.A.E.M.>> > P.O. Box 566863>> > Atlanta, Georgia 31156>> >>> > > Jim:>> > >>> > > I'll have to find Dr. Buttar's information at home,and I'm at>> work>> > right>> > > now, but I wanted to let you know that there are two doctors in>> the>> > > Atlanta area now using TD-DMPS and following Buttar's protocol:>>

Dr.>> > Lee and Dr. Guest. We just completed the preliminary>> testing required by Buttar, and when those results are in, will>> start with the DMPS. We just had a phone appointment with him,>> which wasn't very informative, but we knew what we were starting>> already, so we didn't have many questions. The initial lab testing>> and phone appointment cost us about $2,000. I'm not sure what the>> expense for the DMPS will be each month.>> > >>> > > If you want lots more info., sign onto the AutismBiomedGa >> > group, look around in the files, and ask questions. Some of the>> parents on that group are already using DMPS.>> > >>>

> > We have using glutathione, TTFD, and DMSA for about six months,>> and>> > have>> > > seen lots of metals coming out, and some improvements with our>> son,>> > but nothing "dramatic". Enough to keep it up, though:)>> > >>> > > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > "Jim" <jgs3@...>>> > > Sent by: autism >> > >

07/20/2005 11:22 AM>> > > Please respond to>> > > autism >> > >>> > >>> > > To>> > > autism >> > > cc>> > >>> > > Subject>> > > Re: Bio-medical info>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > ,>> >

>>> > > Do you have the contact information for Dr. Buttar you can>> share.>> > We are trying to get hooked up with him and would also be interested>> > in any feedback you might care to share.>> > >>> > > Jim>> > >>> > > >> > >> Jane:>> > >>>> > >> That would be great! We are doing chelation with TTFD right>> now,>> > > and will>> > >> move forward with DMPS and

eventually hope to work with Dr.>> Buttar>> > > in>> > >> North Carolina (we have an appointment in June). We would>> > > definitely join>> > >> a local biomed group.>> > >>>> > >> >> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >> "Jane Romdalvik" <rominick@a...>>> > >> 12/30/2004 09:31 PM>> > >> Please respond to>> > >> autism >>

> >>>> > >>>> > >> To>> > >> <autism >>> > >> cc>> > >>>> > >> Subject>> > >> Re: Bio-medical info>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >> So then I wouldn't be stepping on any toes if I created one>> > > (

group>> > >> for biomed locally)? I ran one in the last place I lived and>> > > really miss>> > >> the local support while going through the chelation ( currently>> TD->> > > DMPS)>> > >> and all of the other crazy stuff we do. I belong to all of the>> > > other great>> > >> groups out there, but there is a lot to be said for having a>> small>> > > local>> > >> biomedical support group, especially online. It sounds to me>> like>> > > there>> > >> are at least a few of us in this boat

here.>> > >>>> > >> Jane>> > >> Mama to 7 (ASD) and 4 (NT)>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>

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No, they are two different labs and I only recommend Great Smokies. SBE

B. Edelson, M.D., F.A.A.E.M.

P.O. Box 566863

Atlanta, Georgia 31156

> Is Great Smokies the same as Great Plains?

>

> Missy--SAHM/Student Again

>

> I am who I am because that's who I am.

>

> --- 6, Asperger's

>

> All kids are gifted, some just open their

> packages earlier than others.

>

> -- Carr

> Re: Re: Bio-medical info

>>> >

>>> >

>>> > For those who are interested. Glutathione ,TidF are the weakest

>>> of

>>> > chelators and should nevere be relied on to detoxify these

>>> children.

>>> DMSA is also a weak systemic chelator of mercury and is a little

>>> better for leas. DMSA is a very important adjunctive chelator

>>> because there is some good evidence from Russian work that it does

>>> get into the brain and DMPS doesn't. The best combinations of

>>> therapies are oral DMPS and oral DMSA for those who would rather stay

>>> away from the injections. It is very important to always give

>>> supplemental minerals and measure RBC minerals every few months

>>> during therapy and that way you can specifically supplement items

>>> that are dropping faster than others. I certainly am not telling you

>>> to avoid glutathione, lipoic acid and NAC or TIDF just keep in mind

>>> that it just takes too long to have any significant impact with those

>>> items.I feel much more

>>> > comfortable with oral DMPS than trans-dermal, and through 12

>>> years

>>> and 100's of children it is a very safe way to go as long as you

>>> monitor the child with CBC'c, renal and liver function and mineral

>>> analyses. Sincerely, SB Edelson

>>> >

>>> > B. Edelson, M.D., F.A.A.E.M.

>>> > P.O. Box 566863

>>> > Atlanta, Georgia 31156

>>> >

>>> > > Jim:

>>> > >

>>> > > I'll have to find Dr. Buttar's information at home,and I'm at

>>> work

>>> > right

>>> > > now, but I wanted to let you know that there are two doctors

>>> in

>>> the

>>> > > Atlanta area now using TD-DMPS and following Buttar's

>>> protocol:

>>> Dr.

>>> > Lee and Dr. Guest. We just completed the

>>> preliminary

>>> testing required by Buttar, and when those results are in, will

>>> start with the DMPS. We just had a phone appointment with him,

>>> which wasn't very informative, but we knew what we were starting

>>> already, so we didn't have many questions. The initial lab testing

>>> and phone appointment cost us about $2,000. I'm not sure what the

>>> expense for the DMPS will be each month.

>>> > >

>>> > > If you want lots more info., sign onto the AutismBiomedGa

>>>

>>> > group, look around in the files, and ask questions. Some of the

>>> parents on that group are already using DMPS.

>>> > >

>>> > > We have using glutathione, TTFD, and DMSA for about six

>>> months,

>>> and

>>> > have

>>> > > seen lots of metals coming out, and some improvements with

>>> our

>>> son,

>>> > but nothing " dramatic " . Enough to keep it up, though:)

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > > " Jim " <jgs3@...>

>>> > > Sent by: autism

>>> > > 07/20/2005 11:22 AM

>>> > > Please respond to

>>> > > autism

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > > To

>>> > > autism

>>> > > cc

>>> > >

>>> > > Subject

>>> > > Re: Bio-medical info

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > > ,

>>> > >

>>> > > Do you have the contact information for Dr. Buttar you can

>>> share.

>>> > We are trying to get hooked up with him and would also be

>>> interested

>>> > in any feedback you might care to share.

>>> > >

>>> > > Jim

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >> Jane:

>>> > >>

>>> > >> That would be great! We are doing chelation with TTFD right

>>> now,

>>> > > and will

>>> > >> move forward with DMPS and eventually hope to work with Dr.

>>> Buttar

>>> > > in

>>> > >> North Carolina (we have an appointment in June). We would

>>> > > definitely join

>>> > >> a local biomed group.

>>> > >>

>>> > >>

>>> > >>

>>> > >>

>>> > >>

>>> > >>

>>> > >> " Jane Romdalvik " <rominick@a...>

>>> > >> 12/30/2004 09:31 PM

>>> > >> Please respond to

>>> > >> autism

>>> > >>

>>> > >>

>>> > >> To

>>> > >> <autism >

>>> > >> cc

>>> > >>

>>> > >> Subject

>>> > >> Re: Bio-medical info

>>> > >>

>>> > >>

>>> > >>

>>> > >>

>>> > >>

>>> > >>

>>> > >>

>>> > >> So then I wouldn't be stepping on any toes if I created one

>>> > > ( group

>>> > >> for biomed locally)? I ran one in the last place I lived and

>>> > > really miss

>>> > >> the local support while going through the chelation (

>>> currently

>>> TD-

>>> > > DMPS)

>>> > >> and all of the other crazy stuff we do. I belong to all of

>>> the

>>> > > other great

>>> > >> groups out there, but there is a lot to be said for having a

>>> small

>>> > > local

>>> > >> biomedical support group, especially online. It sounds to me

>>> like

>>> > > there

>>> > >> are at least a few of us in this boat here.

>>> > >>

>>> > >> Jane

>>> > >> Mama to 7 (ASD) and 4 (NT)

>>> > >>

>>> > >>

>>> > >>

>>> > >>

>>> > >>

>>> > >>

>>> > >>

>>> > >>

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I have heard our DAN! doc mention Great Smokies but I know she uses Great

Plains as well. I'll have to investigate the prices for Great Smokies.

Thanks

Missy--SAHM/Student Again

I am who I am because that's who I am.

--- 6, Asperger's

All kids are gifted, some just open their

packages earlier than others.

-- Carr

Re: Re: Bio-medical info

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> > For those who are interested. Glutathione ,TidF are the weakest

>>>> of

>>>> > chelators and should nevere be relied on to detoxify these

>>>> children.

>>>> DMSA is also a weak systemic chelator of mercury and is a little

>>>> better for leas. DMSA is a very important adjunctive chelator

>>>> because there is some good evidence from Russian work that it does

>>>> get into the brain and DMPS doesn't. The best combinations of

>>>> therapies are oral DMPS and oral DMSA for those who would rather stay

>>>> away from the injections. It is very important to always give

>>>> supplemental minerals and measure RBC minerals every few months

>>>> during therapy and that way you can specifically supplement items

>>>> that are dropping faster than others. I certainly am not telling you

>>>> to avoid glutathione, lipoic acid and NAC or TIDF just keep in mind

>>>> that it just takes too long to have any significant impact with those

>>>> items.I feel much more

>>>> > comfortable with oral DMPS than trans-dermal, and through 12

>>>> years

>>>> and 100's of children it is a very safe way to go as long as you

>>>> monitor the child with CBC'c, renal and liver function and mineral

>>>> analyses. Sincerely, SB Edelson

>>>> >

>>>> > B. Edelson, M.D., F.A.A.E.M.

>>>> > P.O. Box 566863

>>>> > Atlanta, Georgia 31156

>>>> >

>>>> > > Jim:

>>>> > >

>>>> > > I'll have to find Dr. Buttar's information at home,and I'm at

>>>> work

>>>> > right

>>>> > > now, but I wanted to let you know that there are two doctors

>>>> in

>>>> the

>>>> > > Atlanta area now using TD-DMPS and following Buttar's

>>>> protocol:

>>>> Dr.

>>>> > Lee and Dr. Guest. We just completed the

>>>> preliminary

>>>> testing required by Buttar, and when those results are in, will

>>>> start with the DMPS. We just had a phone appointment with him,

>>>> which wasn't very informative, but we knew what we were starting

>>>> already, so we didn't have many questions. The initial lab testing

>>>> and phone appointment cost us about $2,000. I'm not sure what the

>>>> expense for the DMPS will be each month.

>>>> > >

>>>> > > If you want lots more info., sign onto the AutismBiomedGa

>>>>

>>>> > group, look around in the files, and ask questions. Some of the

>>>> parents on that group are already using DMPS.

>>>> > >

>>>> > > We have using glutathione, TTFD, and DMSA for about six

>>>> months,

>>>> and

>>>> > have

>>>> > > seen lots of metals coming out, and some improvements with

>>>> our

>>>> son,

>>>> > but nothing " dramatic " . Enough to keep it up, though:)

>>>> > >

>>>> > >

>>>> > >

>>>> > >

>>>> > >

>>>> > >

>>>> > >

>>>> > >

>>>> > >

>>>> > > " Jim " <jgs3@...>

>>>> > > Sent by: autism

>>>> > > 07/20/2005 11:22 AM

>>>> > > Please respond to

>>>> > > autism

>>>> > >

>>>> > >

>>>> > > To

>>>> > > autism

>>>> > > cc

>>>> > >

>>>> > > Subject

>>>> > > Re: Bio-medical info

>>>> > >

>>>> > >

>>>> > >

>>>> > >

>>>> > >

>>>> > >

>>>> > > ,

>>>> > >

>>>> > > Do you have the contact information for Dr. Buttar you can

>>>> share.

>>>> > We are trying to get hooked up with him and would also be

>>>> interested

>>>> > in any feedback you might care to share.

>>>> > >

>>>> > > Jim

>>>> > >

>>>> > >

>>>> > >> Jane:

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >> That would be great! We are doing chelation with TTFD right

>>>> now,

>>>> > > and will

>>>> > >> move forward with DMPS and eventually hope to work with Dr.

>>>> Buttar

>>>> > > in

>>>> > >> North Carolina (we have an appointment in June). We would

>>>> > > definitely join

>>>> > >> a local biomed group.

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >> " Jane Romdalvik " <rominick@a...>

>>>> > >> 12/30/2004 09:31 PM

>>>> > >> Please respond to

>>>> > >> autism

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >> To

>>>> > >> <autism >

>>>> > >> cc

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >> Subject

>>>> > >> Re: Bio-medical info

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >> So then I wouldn't be stepping on any toes if I created one

>>>> > > ( group

>>>> > >> for biomed locally)? I ran one in the last place I lived and

>>>> > > really miss

>>>> > >> the local support while going through the chelation (

>>>> currently

>>>> TD-

>>>> > > DMPS)

>>>> > >> and all of the other crazy stuff we do. I belong to all of

>>>> the

>>>> > > other great

>>>> > >> groups out there, but there is a lot to be said for having a

>>>> small

>>>> > > local

>>>> > >> biomedical support group, especially online. It sounds to me

>>>> like

>>>> > > there

>>>> > >> are at least a few of us in this boat here.

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >> Jane

>>>> > >> Mama to 7 (ASD) and 4 (NT)

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >>

>>>> > >>

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Even if there is a price difference the Great Smojies Lab is a far

superior lab for quality and consistency. I used them for 12 years and

found the scientific accuracy and consistency to be superb. I found no lab

to compare.I am a retired physician who has a practice that consults

physicians for their patients needs and so I have nothing to gain by

telling you this. The price of a lab test is not like buying a car where

any car gets you where you want to be. The labs differ enough to where you

might not trust one vs. another because of accuracy etc. SBE

B. Edelson, M.D., F.A.A.E.M.

P.O. Box 566863

Atlanta, Georgia 31156

> I have heard our DAN! doc mention Great Smokies but I know she uses

> Great

> Plains as well. I'll have to investigate the prices for Great Smokies.

>

> Thanks

>

> Missy--SAHM/Student Again

>

> I am who I am because that's who I am.

>

> --- 6, Asperger's

>

> All kids are gifted, some just open their

> packages earlier than others.

>

> -- Carr

> Re: Re: Bio-medical info

>>>>> >

>>>>> >

>>>>> > For those who are interested. Glutathione ,TidF are the

>>>>> weakest

>>>>> of

>>>>> > chelators and should nevere be relied on to detoxify these

>>>>> children.

>>>>> DMSA is also a weak systemic chelator of mercury and is a little

>>>>> better for leas. DMSA is a very important adjunctive chelator

>>>>> because there is some good evidence from Russian work that it does

>>>>> get into the brain and DMPS doesn't. The best combinations of

>>>>> therapies are oral DMPS and oral DMSA for those who would rather

>>>>> stay away from the injections. It is very important to always give

>>>>> supplemental minerals and measure RBC minerals every few months

>>>>> during therapy and that way you can specifically supplement items

>>>>> that are dropping faster than others. I certainly am not telling

>>>>> you to avoid glutathione, lipoic acid and NAC or TIDF just keep in

>>>>> mind that it just takes too long to have any significant impact

>>>>> with those items.I feel much more

>>>>> > comfortable with oral DMPS than trans-dermal, and through 12

>>>>> years

>>>>> and 100's of children it is a very safe way to go as long as you

>>>>> monitor the child with CBC'c, renal and liver function and mineral

>>>>> analyses. Sincerely, SB Edelson

>>>>> >

>>>>> > B. Edelson, M.D., F.A.A.E.M.

>>>>> > P.O. Box 566863

>>>>> > Atlanta, Georgia 31156

>>>>> >

>>>>> > > Jim:

>>>>> > >

>>>>> > > I'll have to find Dr. Buttar's information at home,and I'm

>>>>> at

>>>>> work

>>>>> > right

>>>>> > > now, but I wanted to let you know that there are two

>>>>> doctors

>>>>> in

>>>>> the

>>>>> > > Atlanta area now using TD-DMPS and following Buttar's

>>>>> protocol:

>>>>> Dr.

>>>>> > Lee and Dr. Guest. We just completed the

>>>>> preliminary

>>>>> testing required by Buttar, and when those results are in, will

>>>>> start with the DMPS. We just had a phone appointment with him,

>>>>> which wasn't very informative, but we knew what we were starting

>>>>> already, so we didn't have many questions. The initial lab

>>>>> testing and phone appointment cost us about $2,000. I'm not sure

>>>>> what the expense for the DMPS will be each month.

>>>>> > >

>>>>> > > If you want lots more info., sign onto the AutismBiomedGa

>>>>>

>>>>> > group, look around in the files, and ask questions. Some of

>>>>> the

>>>>> parents on that group are already using DMPS.

>>>>> > >

>>>>> > > We have using glutathione, TTFD, and DMSA for about six

>>>>> months,

>>>>> and

>>>>> > have

>>>>> > > seen lots of metals coming out, and some improvements with

>>>>> our

>>>>> son,

>>>>> > but nothing " dramatic " . Enough to keep it up, though:)

>>>>> > >

>>>>> > >

>>>>> > >

>>>>> > >

>>>>> > >

>>>>> > >

>>>>> > >

>>>>> > >

>>>>> > >

>>>>> > > " Jim " <jgs3@...>

>>>>> > > Sent by: autism

>>>>> > > 07/20/2005 11:22 AM

>>>>> > > Please respond to

>>>>> > > autism

>>>>> > >

>>>>> > >

>>>>> > > To

>>>>> > > autism

>>>>> > > cc

>>>>> > >

>>>>> > > Subject

>>>>> > > Re: Bio-medical info

>>>>> > >

>>>>> > >

>>>>> > >

>>>>> > >

>>>>> > >

>>>>> > >

>>>>> > > ,

>>>>> > >

>>>>> > > Do you have the contact information for Dr. Buttar you can

>>>>> share.

>>>>> > We are trying to get hooked up with him and would also be

>>>>> interested

>>>>> > in any feedback you might care to share.

>>>>> > >

>>>>> > > Jim

>>>>> > >

>>>>> > >

>>>>> > >> Jane:

>>>>> > >>

>>>>> > >> That would be great! We are doing chelation with TTFD

>>>>> right

>>>>> now,

>>>>> > > and will

>>>>> > >> move forward with DMPS and eventually hope to work with

>>>>> Dr.

>>>>> Buttar

>>>>> > > in

>>>>> > >> North Carolina (we have an appointment in June). We would

>>>>> > > definitely join

>>>>> > >> a local biomed group.

>>>>> > >>

>>>>> > >>

>>>>> > >>

>>>>> > >>

>>>>> > >>

>>>>> > >>

>>>>> > >> " Jane Romdalvik " <rominick@a...>

>>>>> > >> 12/30/2004 09:31 PM

>>>>> > >> Please respond to

>>>>> > >> autism

>>>>> > >>

>>>>> > >>

>>>>> > >> To

>>>>> > >> <autism >

>>>>> > >> cc

>>>>> > >>

>>>>> > >> Subject

>>>>> > >> Re: Bio-medical info

>>>>> > >>

>>>>> > >>

>>>>> > >>

>>>>> > >>

>>>>> > >>

>>>>> > >>

>>>>> > >>

>>>>> > >> So then I wouldn't be stepping on any toes if I created

>>>>> one

>>>>> > > ( group

>>>>> > >> for biomed locally)? I ran one in the last place I lived

>>>>> and

>>>>> > > really miss

>>>>> > >> the local support while going through the chelation (

>>>>> currently

>>>>> TD-

>>>>> > > DMPS)

>>>>> > >> and all of the other crazy stuff we do. I belong to all of

>>>>> the

>>>>> > > other great

>>>>> > >> groups out there, but there is a lot to be said for having

>>>>> a

>>>>> small

>>>>> > > local

>>>>> > >> biomedical support group, especially online. It sounds to

>>>>> me

>>>>> like

>>>>> > > there

>>>>> > >> are at least a few of us in this boat here.

>>>>> > >>

>>>>> > >> Jane

>>>>> > >> Mama to 7 (ASD) and 4 (NT)

>>>>> > >>

>>>>> > >>

>>>>> > >>

>>>>> > >>

>>>>> > >>

>>>>> > >>

>>>>> > >>

>>>>> > >>

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