Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 In message <C34FE44D-6918-47E8-82A0-C7CF2E13C7C0@...> you wrote: > Thanks Margaret, > > I've just begun to use diluted apple cider vinegar as a hair rinse, > and a skin rinse as well, so it's not really a stretch, if I think > about it that way, to use it for hair and skin. > This thread makes me take a step I've been loathe to take: grind up a > mother. > I have to think about them differently. > Many years ago, the first time I began to interact with kombucha, I > just kept making kombucha, giving each new scoby its jar, until I had > a whole genealogy, all named, many generations. I was fascinated but > couldn't make myself drink the brew. I could imagine one of those > growing inside me in a big block. I finally had a big party/(free) > yard sale and gave them all away. > >>>drinking the brew was exactly what I needed to be doing at the > time, too. Amazing how we can lead ourselves to water, but then > refuse to drink<<<<<<<< > > I had to get into making kefir and cultured vegetables before I came > back to kombucha...or rather, it came back to me. A stranger brought > me one. It was time. I've also made scobys from GT Dave's delicious > drink. I've given away all the new scobys I can now, and I have many > batches brewing, so it's time to take that next step. > > OK......just so long as it doesn't scream when I blend it. I'll try it. > I really don't know why I have this trepidation. I can whip up herbal > preparations out of anything else, but these beings, like the kefir > starter (mine are big ball shapes with fluted surfaces, like > something that might find growing on a coral reef) are, well, beings. > I'm having the same trouble with pulling a kefir ball apart, or > whipping one up to start something new. > > I'm not one to anthropomorphize anything. I'm not a vegan. I'm not > timid. That's not what is going on. It's more a kind of reverence > that in spite of all of the poisoning of pesticides, and the malleus > maleficarum, and modern medicine, these life forms have survived, and > thrive, in a symbiotic relationship with humans. > > {Thank you very much...Now I grind you up!}......it's hard to do. > > It's really a conceptual dilemma, and I need to reframe in order to > grind. Maybe thinking of transformation will help. (Yeah, I know, > stop thinking so much and just do it!) > I feel like I aught to have some words to say to it before I pop it > in the blender, at the very least. > > (I know...I tire myself out with these conundrums, and this is a > strange sort of introduction.) > Thank you for your encouragement to....go beyond...... > Some traditional cultures put their old people out to die under a > tree. Maybe it's ok to turn an old mother into a skin cream. > It's a big step to contemplate, but so was drinking the brew in the > first place. > One step at a time, > Thanks, Silani! What an excellently written piece. I loved reading it :-)) Maybe, for me it's never been a grind to grind because I never called the cultures 'mother'. I think, if I had, I most likely would have experienced that same trepidation of causing scobicide. The comforting thing is, that in the case of Kombucha, even a liquidised scoby/mother/culture will spring back to full scobyhood and cultural identity - this, of course does not work with frogs or other organisms that have been seriously disorganised, even though all the components are still there. ;-O Thanks for your stimulating response, Margret:-) UK -- +------------------ Minstrel@... --------------------+ <)))<>< http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk <)))<>< http://www.AnswersInGenesis.com +----------------- http://www.Gotquestions.org ------------------+ We learn to pray by praying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Silani, I had to laugh when you talked about all your brews and then said you couldn't bring yourself to drinking them. At first I didn't want to handle the scobies, but fort. that didn't last long. I was a bit timid about drinking my own brew, too. My hubby's wise remarks didn't help any. :oP Unfortunately, my brew isn't fully matured yet. I guess it's another way for the Lord to teach me patience. Ugh, why can't He just give me patience? You do drink the brew now, don't you? jan > > Thanks Margaret, > > I've just begun to use diluted apple cider vinegar as a hair rinse, > and a skin rinse as well, so it's not really a stretch, if I think > about it that way, to use it for hair and skin. > This thread makes me take a step I've been loathe to take: grind up a > mother. > I have to think about them differently. > Many years ago, the first time I began to interact with kombucha, I > just kept making kombucha, giving each new scoby its jar, until I had > a whole genealogy, all named, many generations. I was fascinated but > couldn't make myself drink the brew. > One step at a time, > Silani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Silani, I had to laugh when you talked about all your brews and then said you couldn't bring yourself to drinking them. At first I didn't want to handle the scobies, but fort. that didn't last long. I was a bit timid about drinking my own brew, too. My hubby's wise remarks didn't help any. :oP Unfortunately, my brew isn't fully matured yet. I guess it's another way for the Lord to teach me patience. Ugh, why can't He just give me patience? You do drink the brew now, don't you? jan > > Thanks Margaret, > > I've just begun to use diluted apple cider vinegar as a hair rinse, > and a skin rinse as well, so it's not really a stretch, if I think > about it that way, to use it for hair and skin. > This thread makes me take a step I've been loathe to take: grind up a > mother. > I have to think about them differently. > Many years ago, the first time I began to interact with kombucha, I > just kept making kombucha, giving each new scoby its jar, until I had > a whole genealogy, all named, many generations. I was fascinated but > couldn't make myself drink the brew. > One step at a time, > Silani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Silani, I had to laugh when you talked about all your brews and then said you couldn't bring yourself to drinking them. At first I didn't want to handle the scobies, but fort. that didn't last long. I was a bit timid about drinking my own brew, too. My hubby's wise remarks didn't help any. :oP Unfortunately, my brew isn't fully matured yet. I guess it's another way for the Lord to teach me patience. Ugh, why can't He just give me patience? You do drink the brew now, don't you? jan > > Thanks Margaret, > > I've just begun to use diluted apple cider vinegar as a hair rinse, > and a skin rinse as well, so it's not really a stretch, if I think > about it that way, to use it for hair and skin. > This thread makes me take a step I've been loathe to take: grind up a > mother. > I have to think about them differently. > Many years ago, the first time I began to interact with kombucha, I > just kept making kombucha, giving each new scoby its jar, until I had > a whole genealogy, all named, many generations. I was fascinated but > couldn't make myself drink the brew. > One step at a time, > Silani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Oh yes! I have so many different kinds now. My husband's family has a vineyard, and a wonderful culture of just the right food for just the right wine, but we don't drink. Having lots of different kinds of kombucha and water kefir allows us to drink our own libations, and begin to make brews that compliment different foods. In this way we are able to join the family table without drinking alcohol. The family calls it " cool-aide " , but they like to know how it's made, as much as we ask about different batches of wine or kinds of grapes. I also like to use kombucha brew to poach salmon, for instance. I use a ginger kombucha for that. I know it looses its enzymes in the heating, but it tastes good. Poaching pears. Marinating anything. Soaking grains. But more than anything I like to have a nice relaxing drink of it in a nice wine glass, just kick back and feel gratitude for the day. Silani On Aug 7, 2007, at 11:13 AM, jan wrote: > You do drink the brew now, don't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Oh yes! I have so many different kinds now. My husband's family has a vineyard, and a wonderful culture of just the right food for just the right wine, but we don't drink. Having lots of different kinds of kombucha and water kefir allows us to drink our own libations, and begin to make brews that compliment different foods. In this way we are able to join the family table without drinking alcohol. The family calls it " cool-aide " , but they like to know how it's made, as much as we ask about different batches of wine or kinds of grapes. I also like to use kombucha brew to poach salmon, for instance. I use a ginger kombucha for that. I know it looses its enzymes in the heating, but it tastes good. Poaching pears. Marinating anything. Soaking grains. But more than anything I like to have a nice relaxing drink of it in a nice wine glass, just kick back and feel gratitude for the day. Silani On Aug 7, 2007, at 11:13 AM, jan wrote: > You do drink the brew now, don't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Hello....I use scoby in the shower and it feels soft and comforting especially when i get too much sun like this weekend....the scoby sucks the heat out of my skin, i even use it on my face, and surprisingly, it cleared up my nose as I was breathing it (well i had to breath!! hehe) in while i was massaging my face with an old scoby, very acidic. Sometimes I just use it like a toner, let it dry and go to work smelling kombuchaly, it does not smell bad and after a while the scent disappears. ine Margret Pegg <Minstrel@...> wrote: In message <D6797927-91BF-41C4-98EE-2371270BC56E@...> you wrote: > Seriously? Does it change the PH of the skin? It's hard to tell if > you are joking from here...........and I'm trying to imagine what > that would feel like. > Hmmm.....nice relaxing bath with " the blob " .......hmmm........still > trying to imagine.......and THEN it goes in the compost? > You don't keep it around and reuse it...eeeUUh! You ARE teasing! > > On Aug 6, 2007, at 4:28 PM, Margret Pegg wrote: > > or use it as a bath flannel .... Silani, I am absolutely not joking! The acidity of Kombucha, solid culture and all is extremely friendly to the mantle of acidity surrounding the human organism. You can also use Kombucha in all its forms as skin/hair conditioner, make pureed scoby cream (looks and feels and even tastes like apple sauce :-) and rub yourself down with a delicious mother scoby - no rinsing necessary! Kombucha is anti-inflammatory, anti-bad bacteria and anti-fungal infections. It is an altogether beneficial life-form! If you look in the files of the Kombucha (the list you are subscribed to) you will find lots of details on Kombucha use. With friendly greetings, Margret:-) -- +------------------ Minstrel@... --------------------+ <)))<>< http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk <)))<>< http://www.AnswersInGenesis.com +----------------- http://www.Gotquestions.org ------------------+ In a consecrated life there are no accidents. --------------------------------- Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Hello....I use scoby in the shower and it feels soft and comforting especially when i get too much sun like this weekend....the scoby sucks the heat out of my skin, i even use it on my face, and surprisingly, it cleared up my nose as I was breathing it (well i had to breath!! hehe) in while i was massaging my face with an old scoby, very acidic. Sometimes I just use it like a toner, let it dry and go to work smelling kombuchaly, it does not smell bad and after a while the scent disappears. ine Margret Pegg <Minstrel@...> wrote: In message <D6797927-91BF-41C4-98EE-2371270BC56E@...> you wrote: > Seriously? Does it change the PH of the skin? It's hard to tell if > you are joking from here...........and I'm trying to imagine what > that would feel like. > Hmmm.....nice relaxing bath with " the blob " .......hmmm........still > trying to imagine.......and THEN it goes in the compost? > You don't keep it around and reuse it...eeeUUh! You ARE teasing! > > On Aug 6, 2007, at 4:28 PM, Margret Pegg wrote: > > or use it as a bath flannel .... Silani, I am absolutely not joking! The acidity of Kombucha, solid culture and all is extremely friendly to the mantle of acidity surrounding the human organism. You can also use Kombucha in all its forms as skin/hair conditioner, make pureed scoby cream (looks and feels and even tastes like apple sauce :-) and rub yourself down with a delicious mother scoby - no rinsing necessary! Kombucha is anti-inflammatory, anti-bad bacteria and anti-fungal infections. It is an altogether beneficial life-form! If you look in the files of the Kombucha (the list you are subscribed to) you will find lots of details on Kombucha use. With friendly greetings, Margret:-) -- +------------------ Minstrel@... --------------------+ <)))<>< http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk <)))<>< http://www.AnswersInGenesis.com +----------------- http://www.Gotquestions.org ------------------+ In a consecrated life there are no accidents. --------------------------------- Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Hi ine, What was wrong with your nose? Silani On Aug 7, 2007, at 7:41 PM, ine Rance wrote: > i even use it on my face, and surprisingly, it cleared up my nose > as I was breathing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Hi ine, What was wrong with your nose? Silani On Aug 7, 2007, at 7:41 PM, ine Rance wrote: > i even use it on my face, and surprisingly, it cleared up my nose > as I was breathing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 Hi Silani, it was just congested....no biggie! P Silani Wahlgren <silani@...> wrote: Hi ine, What was wrong with your nose? Silani On Aug 7, 2007, at 7:41 PM, ine Rance wrote: > i even use it on my face, and surprisingly, it cleared up my nose > as I was breathing it --------------------------------- Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 Hi ine, I was wondering if a poultice on the nose might shift a sinus condition.....that's why I asked. It was just an image that occurred to me: a scoby draped over a nose bridge. Silani On Aug 8, 2007, at 12:08 PM, ine Rance wrote: > Hi Silani, it was just congested....no biggie! P > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 hahahah.....thank you, it wasn't a sinus problem at all, just a crying spell. I massaged my face with scoby to comfort myself and stimulate the flow of fluids.....that image u had is funny. ine. Silani Wahlgren <silani@...> wrote: Hi ine, I was wondering if a poultice on the nose might shift a sinus condition.....that's why I asked. It was just an image that occurred to me: a scoby draped over a nose bridge. Silani On Aug 8, 2007, at 12:08 PM, ine Rance wrote: > Hi Silani, it was just congested....no biggie! P > --------------------------------- Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 Hello All, I feed dried scoby pieces to my goats on a regular basis. The following day, my girls have a jump in milk production. It must help them to digest their food faster and better. They each get an 8th of a scoby piece once a week. AND I float a retired scoby in their water barrel too! Rae in Idaho (an old mother in her own rite and mom to Baby Huey scoby) ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. http://farechase./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 Hello All, I feed dried scoby pieces to my goats on a regular basis. The following day, my girls have a jump in milk production. It must help them to digest their food faster and better. They each get an 8th of a scoby piece once a week. AND I float a retired scoby in their water barrel too! Rae in Idaho (an old mother in her own rite and mom to Baby Huey scoby) ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. http://farechase./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 Hi Silani, I don't read often on this list, to busy doing other things had a KT-free period and am now starting to drink it again gave away a big pot with scobies yesterday to a new friend I do feel your hesitation to grind a scoby what I do more and more is give thanks to nature for providing with this nice food, or with lovely water you might give thanks to the scoby for producing all this lovely KT and now making herself into this fantastic cream or whatever you'll do with the grinded scoby... in love and light, Vera in Belgium > > Thanks Margaret, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 Hi Silani, I don't read often on this list, to busy doing other things had a KT-free period and am now starting to drink it again gave away a big pot with scobies yesterday to a new friend I do feel your hesitation to grind a scoby what I do more and more is give thanks to nature for providing with this nice food, or with lovely water you might give thanks to the scoby for producing all this lovely KT and now making herself into this fantastic cream or whatever you'll do with the grinded scoby... in love and light, Vera in Belgium > > Thanks Margaret, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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