Re: Re: Questions about bottling

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In a message dated 8/1/2007 2:54:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

gloriamarie@... writes:

Because I have a number of health issues, among them Major Depressive

Disorder, diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, high

triglycerides, asthma and, as much as I am ashamed to admit it,

obesity, I have been in the hands of doctors for sometime and oy! the

pharmaceuticals they rx me. The thing is, I don;t think I am getting

any better. Weight loss is imperative, but it has taken me 1 year to

lose only 10 pounds on Weight Watchers. Reading the list of side fx

for my meds, it is appalling to see how many of them list weight gain.

Might I suggest that you try _www.westonaprice.org_

(http://www.westonaprice.org) or Dr. Mercola's web site for health info. They

both look kindly on

kombucha as a health aid. The information we get from doctors is tainted by

the pharmaceutical companies and is largely not in our best interest, it is in

theirs!

Bonnie

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In a message dated 8/1/2007 2:54:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

gloriamarie@... writes:

Because I have a number of health issues, among them Major Depressive

Disorder, diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, high

triglycerides, asthma and, as much as I am ashamed to admit it,

obesity, I have been in the hands of doctors for sometime and oy! the

pharmaceuticals they rx me. The thing is, I don;t think I am getting

any better. Weight loss is imperative, but it has taken me 1 year to

lose only 10 pounds on Weight Watchers. Reading the list of side fx

for my meds, it is appalling to see how many of them list weight gain.

Might I suggest that you try _www.westonaprice.org_

(http://www.westonaprice.org) or Dr. Mercola's web site for health info. They

both look kindly on

kombucha as a health aid. The information we get from doctors is tainted by

the pharmaceutical companies and is largely not in our best interest, it is in

theirs!

Bonnie

************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at

http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

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In a message dated 8/1/2007 2:54:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

gloriamarie@... writes:

I note on the HappyHerbalist.I note on the HappyHerbalist.<WBR>com

and lower cholesterol. Something called Tibetan Puer tea, if I recall

correctly. I have also read that Wu Long tea also leads to weight

loss but it is expensive. Also read that Wu Long tea is really Oolong

tea with a different spelling. Also read that i would get a stronger

mother if I had used black tea.

By the way, look at the info on cholesterol on the Weston Price site. You

might be very surprised to find that is not actually a disease like doctors

would have us believe.

Bonnie

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In a message dated 8/1/2007 2:54:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

gloriamarie@... writes:

I note on the HappyHerbalist.I note on the HappyHerbalist.<WBR>com

and lower cholesterol. Something called Tibetan Puer tea, if I recall

correctly. I have also read that Wu Long tea also leads to weight

loss but it is expensive. Also read that Wu Long tea is really Oolong

tea with a different spelling. Also read that i would get a stronger

mother if I had used black tea.

By the way, look at the info on cholesterol on the Weston Price site. You

might be very surprised to find that is not actually a disease like doctors

would have us believe.

Bonnie

************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at

http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

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1/4 cup is 120 mls.

Gayla

Always Enough Ranch

Acampo, California

http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html

Bill Barnhill is our Inspiration! Go Bill!!!

aeranch@...

Re: Re: Questions about bottling

> On 8/4/07, Margret Pegg <Minstrel@...> wrote:

>

>> Really? That sounds well weird to me ... well, cup measures always do.

>> My conversion tables puts a 1/4 cup at the microscopic amount of not

>> quite

>> 60 millilitres which is about 4 tbsps... Well, everyone to their own!

>> Maybe they are allergic to larger amounts.

>

> Yes, that would be 4 T.

>

> I am grateful to all who said it's a personal decision about how much

> to drink. That sounds more sensible to me than the dire things this

> Canadian said.

>

> I try to alternate between KT and water, as I am not a fond

>> water drinker, I get a cup of KT as reward for having been good ;-)

>

> LOL!! I drink a LOT of water a day. I've read in many many many

> places that for good weight loss a person should drink 1/2 their body

> weight in water a day. I mentioned that at Weight Watchers the other

> day and someone responded that the world didn't contain as much water

> as half her body weight. After an instant of shock, there was

> uproarious laughter when the ridiculous nature of her statement

> finally dawned on us.

>

> Love it that you regard KT as reward for drinking water.

>

>

>> > What with patience being a virtue, I am willing to practice it,

>> > however I'd appreciate an estimate of what " considerably longer " might

>> > mean.

>> Ah, I see you have a scientific mind (just like my husband who goes quite

>> mad about my non-specific instructions ;-)

>

> No... merely there are limits to my virtuous patience!! And I have

> more than my fair share of curiosity. Plus I am eager to start

> drinking the stuff.

>

> I liked it so much with the spirulina that I am hoping to find some at

> the coop to add to by KT. And I will watch out for the exuberant

> effervences , thanks for the warning!!

>>

>> The truth of the matter is, the cut-off point, i.e. bottling point comes

>> when the KT either tastes like you like it or (in case of a diabetic who

>> needs to shun sugar) until it has become acidic enough. It is completely

>> up to you, Sr. Gloriamarie. :-)

>

> Ok I can handle that!!

>

>

>> It should really make very little difference.

>> It is important that you get used to your particular jar, doing the

>> recipe

>> you like or vary, brewing it to the taste that is acceptable to YOU!

>> There are as many methods as there are people.

>

> Ok. No hard and fast rules. I can live with that.

>

>>

>> I actually do alot of my brewing and cooking by divine inspiration.

>

> Hey!! Me too!! Well,cooking at least. But I found that the better

> informed I became about cooking, the easier to respond to divine

> inspiration. I imagine that principle will hold true with KT also.

>

>> here. So, let the Spirit of God dance a wonderful Kombucha jig in your

>> heart!

>

> LOVE IT!!

>

>

>> Not really.Just make sure you have a reasonable acidity in you KT.

>> If you do not immediately go for making a second brew, leave your scoby/s

>> in the brewing jar well covered with KT and cover. You can then use this

>> as new starter. The longer you don't get round to making another brew the

>> more acidic a starter liquid you get, and that works out to your

>> advantage!

>

> As of today, mine has been brewing for 13 days. Just had a taste...

> starting to taste a bit fizzy but still too sweet. Do liek the looks

> of the scoby though... I mean in that I have one. What a good one is

> supposed to look like, I've no idea. And let us remember that I

> started mine from bottled stuff.

>

>> There is no hurry. I just thought I mention it because you, as also I

>> are battling the bulge. So any help is welcome.

>

> indeed it is!

>

> That is how it is possible to leave just KT standing in a

>> covered jar and it will grow another scoby on top. The bacteria that

>> are in the KT will again do what Kombucha bacteria do and build the

>> scoby house on top.Neat, isn't it?

>

> Goodness!! So I can expect to be over run with babies? And I never

> did want to have children! What am I going to do with all these baby

> scobys?

>

> --

> -

> May the Holy Spirit dance in our hearts!

>

> Sister Gloriamarie Amalfitano, S/FC

> http://knitternun.blogspot.com

> SanDiegoFiberFolk

> KnitternunMeditation/

> MereBenedictines/

>

> LET US BEGIN TO SEE BEYOND race, beyond culture, beyond gender, beyond

> sexual orientation, beyond religion, beyond, beyond all these

> externals and see each other as God's beloved. When we relate to

> others as God relates to us, our sense of being God's beloved deepens

> even more.

>

> From page 25 of The Way of Transforming Discipleship by Trevor Hudson

> and D. . Copyright © 2005 by Upper Room Books.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

1/4 cup is 120 mls.

Gayla

Always Enough Ranch

Acampo, California

http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html

Bill Barnhill is our Inspiration! Go Bill!!!

aeranch@...

Re: Re: Questions about bottling

> On 8/4/07, Margret Pegg <Minstrel@...> wrote:

>

>> Really? That sounds well weird to me ... well, cup measures always do.

>> My conversion tables puts a 1/4 cup at the microscopic amount of not

>> quite

>> 60 millilitres which is about 4 tbsps... Well, everyone to their own!

>> Maybe they are allergic to larger amounts.

>

> Yes, that would be 4 T.

>

> I am grateful to all who said it's a personal decision about how much

> to drink. That sounds more sensible to me than the dire things this

> Canadian said.

>

> I try to alternate between KT and water, as I am not a fond

>> water drinker, I get a cup of KT as reward for having been good ;-)

>

> LOL!! I drink a LOT of water a day. I've read in many many many

> places that for good weight loss a person should drink 1/2 their body

> weight in water a day. I mentioned that at Weight Watchers the other

> day and someone responded that the world didn't contain as much water

> as half her body weight. After an instant of shock, there was

> uproarious laughter when the ridiculous nature of her statement

> finally dawned on us.

>

> Love it that you regard KT as reward for drinking water.

>

>

>> > What with patience being a virtue, I am willing to practice it,

>> > however I'd appreciate an estimate of what " considerably longer " might

>> > mean.

>> Ah, I see you have a scientific mind (just like my husband who goes quite

>> mad about my non-specific instructions ;-)

>

> No... merely there are limits to my virtuous patience!! And I have

> more than my fair share of curiosity. Plus I am eager to start

> drinking the stuff.

>

> I liked it so much with the spirulina that I am hoping to find some at

> the coop to add to by KT. And I will watch out for the exuberant

> effervences , thanks for the warning!!

>>

>> The truth of the matter is, the cut-off point, i.e. bottling point comes

>> when the KT either tastes like you like it or (in case of a diabetic who

>> needs to shun sugar) until it has become acidic enough. It is completely

>> up to you, Sr. Gloriamarie. :-)

>

> Ok I can handle that!!

>

>

>> It should really make very little difference.

>> It is important that you get used to your particular jar, doing the

>> recipe

>> you like or vary, brewing it to the taste that is acceptable to YOU!

>> There are as many methods as there are people.

>

> Ok. No hard and fast rules. I can live with that.

>

>>

>> I actually do alot of my brewing and cooking by divine inspiration.

>

> Hey!! Me too!! Well,cooking at least. But I found that the better

> informed I became about cooking, the easier to respond to divine

> inspiration. I imagine that principle will hold true with KT also.

>

>> here. So, let the Spirit of God dance a wonderful Kombucha jig in your

>> heart!

>

> LOVE IT!!

>

>

>> Not really.Just make sure you have a reasonable acidity in you KT.

>> If you do not immediately go for making a second brew, leave your scoby/s

>> in the brewing jar well covered with KT and cover. You can then use this

>> as new starter. The longer you don't get round to making another brew the

>> more acidic a starter liquid you get, and that works out to your

>> advantage!

>

> As of today, mine has been brewing for 13 days. Just had a taste...

> starting to taste a bit fizzy but still too sweet. Do liek the looks

> of the scoby though... I mean in that I have one. What a good one is

> supposed to look like, I've no idea. And let us remember that I

> started mine from bottled stuff.

>

>> There is no hurry. I just thought I mention it because you, as also I

>> are battling the bulge. So any help is welcome.

>

> indeed it is!

>

> That is how it is possible to leave just KT standing in a

>> covered jar and it will grow another scoby on top. The bacteria that

>> are in the KT will again do what Kombucha bacteria do and build the

>> scoby house on top.Neat, isn't it?

>

> Goodness!! So I can expect to be over run with babies? And I never

> did want to have children! What am I going to do with all these baby

> scobys?

>

> --

> -

> May the Holy Spirit dance in our hearts!

>

> Sister Gloriamarie Amalfitano, S/FC

> http://knitternun.blogspot.com

> SanDiegoFiberFolk

> KnitternunMeditation/

> MereBenedictines/

>

> LET US BEGIN TO SEE BEYOND race, beyond culture, beyond gender, beyond

> sexual orientation, beyond religion, beyond, beyond all these

> externals and see each other as God's beloved. When we relate to

> others as God relates to us, our sense of being God's beloved deepens

> even more.

>

> From page 25 of The Way of Transforming Discipleship by Trevor Hudson

> and D. . Copyright © 2005 by Upper Room Books.

>

>

>

>

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I know from livestock raising that 30 mls is one ounce. So OOPS!!!!!!!!!!!

Let's start over....30 mls is an ounce. 2 ounces make a 1/4 cup, since a cup

is 8 ounces. So 1/4 cup is 2 ounces therefore a cup is 240 mls.

Let me go back to bed and pull the covers over my head! LOL

Gayla, whose brain is not functioning right in this heat!

Always Enough Ranch

Acampo, California

http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html

Bill Barnhill is our Inspiration! Go Bill!!!

aeranch@...

[Guest guest]

I know from livestock raising that 30 mls is one ounce. So OOPS!!!!!!!!!!!

Let's start over....30 mls is an ounce. 2 ounces make a 1/4 cup, since a cup

is 8 ounces. So 1/4 cup is 2 ounces therefore a cup is 240 mls.

Let me go back to bed and pull the covers over my head! LOL

Gayla, whose brain is not functioning right in this heat!

Always Enough Ranch

Acampo, California

http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html

Bill Barnhill is our Inspiration! Go Bill!!!

aeranch@...

[Guest guest]

In message <bab5fbcb0708031115v277159e3p71be04f406626e79@...> you

wrote:

> er... since the bottle i purchased was both cold and fizzy, is it

> safe to conclude that one could leave it out to get fizzy and once

> fizzy, refrigerate it and it will not then lose the fizziness??

Yes, that's it! :-)

>

> >Made with spirulina? That is the first time I've heard about that.

> Blue-green algae, very nutritious. I'm not surprised the Kombucha you

> >sampled was so expensive!

> The recommendation on the bottle was to drink one bottle of this GT KT

> a day. I had assumed that was 16 oz of KT, but I read on an internet

> site where this guy and his wife in Canada urgently stress that one

> should only drink 1/4 C in the AM and 1/4 C before bed.

Really? That sounds well weird to me ... well, cup measures always do.

My conversion tables puts a 1/4 cup at the microscopic amount of not quite

60 millilitres which is about 4 tbsps... Well, everyone to their own!

Maybe they are allergic to larger amounts.

Just to put it into perspective, I've already consumed about a cupful of

very efficacious KT (made from excellent green Fujiang tea) in the morning

whilst working in the kitchen, and I am now quite unrepentantly on my

second cup started whilst I was ironing. The next cup must be a water

one. I try to alternate between KT and water, as I am not a fond

water drinker, I get a cup of KT as reward for having been good ;-)

> This makes me wonder if the couple in Canada refer to the pure KT and

> if the GT KT was KT plus other stuff to make it a 16oz bottle.

KT is KT is KT ;-) I have just indulged in the purest KT possible.

Whatever is added to the original KT still makes it pure KT plus, doesn't

it?

>

> What with patience being a virtue, I am willing to practice it,

> however I'd appreciate an estimate of what " considerably longer " might

> mean.

Ah, I see you have a scientific mind (just like my husband who goes quite

mad about my non-specific instructions ;-)

The truth of the matter is, the cut-off point, i.e. bottling point comes

when the KT either tastes like you like it or (in case of a diabetic who

needs to shun sugar) until it has become acidic enough. It is completely

up to you, Sr. Gloriamarie. :-)

> Perhaps I should also mention that I am brewing it in a 1

> gallon pickle jar. It has a very wide opening but on the sites you

> referred me too they said to use a bowl and cited an advantage of the

> bowl was the wide surface area. So perhaps the pickle jar will add

> even more time to the process?

It should really make very little difference.

It is important that you get used to your particular jar, doing the recipe

you like or vary, brewing it to the taste that is acceptable to YOU!

There are as many methods as there are people.

I actually do alot of my brewing and cooking by divine inspiration.

I have never known a time when God's help wasn't forthcoming when I asked

for it. He is not just an airy-fairy up there, but a very real help down

here. So, let the Spirit of God dance a wonderful Kombucha jig in your heart!

> I will hold the 2 of you in my prayers.

Thank you so much, Sr. Gloriamarie. This means a lot to me :-)

>

> How do you pack it for travel?

The same way as when I send them by post:

In a wide necked pressure proof bottle. Depending on thickness of culture,

I either roll it and post it, or artistically cut it into a long strip

along its contours which could be either square, octagonal or a disk and =

then slither it in like a long snake. Then I top it right up with well

matured Kombucha Tea.

> As for acidic starter liquid.... I was under the impression that some

> of my first brew would be reserved for the 2nd batch. Do I have to

> brew it longer to get a starter liquid?

Not really. Just make sure you have a reasonable acidity in you KT.

If you do not immediately go for making a second brew, leave your scoby/s

in the brewing jar well covered with KT and cover. You can then use this

as new starter. The longer you don't get round to making another brew the

more acidic a starter liquid you get, and that works out to your advantage!

>

> Diluted? I don;t just drink it as it comes out of the pickle jar?

Sometimes the brew can turn out so acidic/vinegary that it is difficult

to drink neat. In such a case it is better (also for your stomach lining ;-)

to make the acidity more acceptable by adding mineral water (fizzy is nice)

and maybe a few slices of fruit like lemon or orange. You would still get

the benefits of Kombucha.

>

> Perhaps I'll consider that purchase once I've mastered the making of KT

> and what to do with it.

There is no hurry. I just thought I mention it because you, as also I

are battling the bulge. So any help is welcome.

>

> I certainly hope so, because I am sick and tired of swallowing a

> pharmacy every single day.

Yes, I empathise! Many people found that they could wean themselves of

medications, but it is wise to do this under the direction of a doctor unless

you are a rebel like me ;-0

>

> Thank you. I have figured out that an important part of the process

> is getting a strong healthy scoby from batch to batch.

Don't forget, just because your scobys may be scrawny and thin to start with

does not mean that your KT is less efficacious. My ugliest scobys brew the

best KT. The culture is not just the solid scoby mass cellular structure,

but also the KT itself which is filled with alive microflora of yeasts

and bacteria. That is how it is possible to leave just KT standing in a

covered jar and it will grow another scoby on top. The bacteria that

are in the KT will again do what Kombucha bacteria do and build the

scoby house on top. Neat, isn't it?

Most kombuchaly with blessings,

Margret:-)

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In message <bab5fbcb0708031115v277159e3p71be04f406626e79@...> you

wrote:

> er... since the bottle i purchased was both cold and fizzy, is it

> safe to conclude that one could leave it out to get fizzy and once

> fizzy, refrigerate it and it will not then lose the fizziness??

Yes, that's it! :-)

>

> >Made with spirulina? That is the first time I've heard about that.

> Blue-green algae, very nutritious. I'm not surprised the Kombucha you

> >sampled was so expensive!

> The recommendation on the bottle was to drink one bottle of this GT KT

> a day. I had assumed that was 16 oz of KT, but I read on an internet

> site where this guy and his wife in Canada urgently stress that one

> should only drink 1/4 C in the AM and 1/4 C before bed.

Really? That sounds well weird to me ... well, cup measures always do.

My conversion tables puts a 1/4 cup at the microscopic amount of not quite

60 millilitres which is about 4 tbsps... Well, everyone to their own!

Maybe they are allergic to larger amounts.

Just to put it into perspective, I've already consumed about a cupful of

very efficacious KT (made from excellent green Fujiang tea) in the morning

whilst working in the kitchen, and I am now quite unrepentantly on my

second cup started whilst I was ironing. The next cup must be a water

one. I try to alternate between KT and water, as I am not a fond

water drinker, I get a cup of KT as reward for having been good ;-)

> This makes me wonder if the couple in Canada refer to the pure KT and

> if the GT KT was KT plus other stuff to make it a 16oz bottle.

KT is KT is KT ;-) I have just indulged in the purest KT possible.

Whatever is added to the original KT still makes it pure KT plus, doesn't

it?

>

> What with patience being a virtue, I am willing to practice it,

> however I'd appreciate an estimate of what " considerably longer " might

> mean.

Ah, I see you have a scientific mind (just like my husband who goes quite

mad about my non-specific instructions ;-)

The truth of the matter is, the cut-off point, i.e. bottling point comes

when the KT either tastes like you like it or (in case of a diabetic who

needs to shun sugar) until it has become acidic enough. It is completely

up to you, Sr. Gloriamarie. :-)

> Perhaps I should also mention that I am brewing it in a 1

> gallon pickle jar. It has a very wide opening but on the sites you

> referred me too they said to use a bowl and cited an advantage of the

> bowl was the wide surface area. So perhaps the pickle jar will add

> even more time to the process?

It should really make very little difference.

It is important that you get used to your particular jar, doing the recipe

you like or vary, brewing it to the taste that is acceptable to YOU!

There are as many methods as there are people.

I actually do alot of my brewing and cooking by divine inspiration.

I have never known a time when God's help wasn't forthcoming when I asked

for it. He is not just an airy-fairy up there, but a very real help down

here. So, let the Spirit of God dance a wonderful Kombucha jig in your heart!

> I will hold the 2 of you in my prayers.

Thank you so much, Sr. Gloriamarie. This means a lot to me :-)

>

> How do you pack it for travel?

The same way as when I send them by post:

In a wide necked pressure proof bottle. Depending on thickness of culture,

I either roll it and post it, or artistically cut it into a long strip

along its contours which could be either square, octagonal or a disk and =

then slither it in like a long snake. Then I top it right up with well

matured Kombucha Tea.

> As for acidic starter liquid.... I was under the impression that some

> of my first brew would be reserved for the 2nd batch. Do I have to

> brew it longer to get a starter liquid?

Not really. Just make sure you have a reasonable acidity in you KT.

If you do not immediately go for making a second brew, leave your scoby/s

in the brewing jar well covered with KT and cover. You can then use this

as new starter. The longer you don't get round to making another brew the

more acidic a starter liquid you get, and that works out to your advantage!

>

> Diluted? I don;t just drink it as it comes out of the pickle jar?

Sometimes the brew can turn out so acidic/vinegary that it is difficult

to drink neat. In such a case it is better (also for your stomach lining ;-)

to make the acidity more acceptable by adding mineral water (fizzy is nice)

and maybe a few slices of fruit like lemon or orange. You would still get

the benefits of Kombucha.

>

> Perhaps I'll consider that purchase once I've mastered the making of KT

> and what to do with it.

There is no hurry. I just thought I mention it because you, as also I

are battling the bulge. So any help is welcome.

>

> I certainly hope so, because I am sick and tired of swallowing a

> pharmacy every single day.

Yes, I empathise! Many people found that they could wean themselves of

medications, but it is wise to do this under the direction of a doctor unless

you are a rebel like me ;-0

>

> Thank you. I have figured out that an important part of the process

> is getting a strong healthy scoby from batch to batch.

Don't forget, just because your scobys may be scrawny and thin to start with

does not mean that your KT is less efficacious. My ugliest scobys brew the

best KT. The culture is not just the solid scoby mass cellular structure,

but also the KT itself which is filled with alive microflora of yeasts

and bacteria. That is how it is possible to leave just KT standing in a

covered jar and it will grow another scoby on top. The bacteria that

are in the KT will again do what Kombucha bacteria do and build the

scoby house on top. Neat, isn't it?

Most kombuchaly with blessings,

Margret:-)

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In message <bab5fbcb0708031115v277159e3p71be04f406626e79@...> you

wrote:

> er... since the bottle i purchased was both cold and fizzy, is it

> safe to conclude that one could leave it out to get fizzy and once

> fizzy, refrigerate it and it will not then lose the fizziness??

Yes, that's it! :-)

>

> >Made with spirulina? That is the first time I've heard about that.

> Blue-green algae, very nutritious. I'm not surprised the Kombucha you

> >sampled was so expensive!

> The recommendation on the bottle was to drink one bottle of this GT KT

> a day. I had assumed that was 16 oz of KT, but I read on an internet

> site where this guy and his wife in Canada urgently stress that one

> should only drink 1/4 C in the AM and 1/4 C before bed.

Really? That sounds well weird to me ... well, cup measures always do.

My conversion tables puts a 1/4 cup at the microscopic amount of not quite

60 millilitres which is about 4 tbsps... Well, everyone to their own!

Maybe they are allergic to larger amounts.

Just to put it into perspective, I've already consumed about a cupful of

very efficacious KT (made from excellent green Fujiang tea) in the morning

whilst working in the kitchen, and I am now quite unrepentantly on my

second cup started whilst I was ironing. The next cup must be a water

one. I try to alternate between KT and water, as I am not a fond

water drinker, I get a cup of KT as reward for having been good ;-)

> This makes me wonder if the couple in Canada refer to the pure KT and

> if the GT KT was KT plus other stuff to make it a 16oz bottle.

KT is KT is KT ;-) I have just indulged in the purest KT possible.

Whatever is added to the original KT still makes it pure KT plus, doesn't

it?

>

> What with patience being a virtue, I am willing to practice it,

> however I'd appreciate an estimate of what " considerably longer " might

> mean.

Ah, I see you have a scientific mind (just like my husband who goes quite

mad about my non-specific instructions ;-)

The truth of the matter is, the cut-off point, i.e. bottling point comes

when the KT either tastes like you like it or (in case of a diabetic who

needs to shun sugar) until it has become acidic enough. It is completely

up to you, Sr. Gloriamarie. :-)

> Perhaps I should also mention that I am brewing it in a 1

> gallon pickle jar. It has a very wide opening but on the sites you

> referred me too they said to use a bowl and cited an advantage of the

> bowl was the wide surface area. So perhaps the pickle jar will add

> even more time to the process?

It should really make very little difference.

It is important that you get used to your particular jar, doing the recipe

you like or vary, brewing it to the taste that is acceptable to YOU!

There are as many methods as there are people.

I actually do alot of my brewing and cooking by divine inspiration.

I have never known a time when God's help wasn't forthcoming when I asked

for it. He is not just an airy-fairy up there, but a very real help down

here. So, let the Spirit of God dance a wonderful Kombucha jig in your heart!

> I will hold the 2 of you in my prayers.

Thank you so much, Sr. Gloriamarie. This means a lot to me :-)

>

> How do you pack it for travel?

The same way as when I send them by post:

In a wide necked pressure proof bottle. Depending on thickness of culture,

I either roll it and post it, or artistically cut it into a long strip

along its contours which could be either square, octagonal or a disk and =

then slither it in like a long snake. Then I top it right up with well

matured Kombucha Tea.

> As for acidic starter liquid.... I was under the impression that some

> of my first brew would be reserved for the 2nd batch. Do I have to

> brew it longer to get a starter liquid?

Not really. Just make sure you have a reasonable acidity in you KT.

If you do not immediately go for making a second brew, leave your scoby/s

in the brewing jar well covered with KT and cover. You can then use this

as new starter. The longer you don't get round to making another brew the

more acidic a starter liquid you get, and that works out to your advantage!

>

> Diluted? I don;t just drink it as it comes out of the pickle jar?

Sometimes the brew can turn out so acidic/vinegary that it is difficult

to drink neat. In such a case it is better (also for your stomach lining ;-)

to make the acidity more acceptable by adding mineral water (fizzy is nice)

and maybe a few slices of fruit like lemon or orange. You would still get

the benefits of Kombucha.

>

> Perhaps I'll consider that purchase once I've mastered the making of KT

> and what to do with it.

There is no hurry. I just thought I mention it because you, as also I

are battling the bulge. So any help is welcome.

>

> I certainly hope so, because I am sick and tired of swallowing a

> pharmacy every single day.

Yes, I empathise! Many people found that they could wean themselves of

medications, but it is wise to do this under the direction of a doctor unless

you are a rebel like me ;-0

>

> Thank you. I have figured out that an important part of the process

> is getting a strong healthy scoby from batch to batch.

Don't forget, just because your scobys may be scrawny and thin to start with

does not mean that your KT is less efficacious. My ugliest scobys brew the

best KT. The culture is not just the solid scoby mass cellular structure,

but also the KT itself which is filled with alive microflora of yeasts

and bacteria. That is how it is possible to leave just KT standing in a

covered jar and it will grow another scoby on top. The bacteria that

are in the KT will again do what Kombucha bacteria do and build the

scoby house on top. Neat, isn't it?

Most kombuchaly with blessings,

Margret:-)

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<bab5fbcb0708031115v277159e3p71be04f406626e79@...> (Who's name I

refuse to even try to pronounce. Sounds like one of those ubiquitous spam

sources) ;-) and Margret, said...

> I certainly hope so, because I am sick and tired of swallowing a

> pharmacy every single day.

Yes, I empathise! Many people found that they could wean themselves of

medications, but it is wise to do this under the direction of a doctor unless

you are a rebel like me ;-0

And me ;-)

What seems like eons ago (about March, April) there was mention of quiting

medication. I seem to be one of the lucky members in that I'm brewing 'coz I

like it and future benefits.

However I seem to recall saying some thing like I was on " Knee pills " and was

willing to risk giving them up.

I was on Glucosamine & Chondroitin for a pair of knees which felt a wee bit

older than I did. Somehow this became...Cortaflex HA

1%Glucuronic Acid, Hyaluronic Acid (HA), Glutamic Acid, L-Glutamine, Aspartic

Acid and Glycine.

I can't, in all honesty, say that one is/was any better than t'other but I can

say that, if I discontinued taking them herself noticed and commented.

I've now been off them since April and the boss has never noticed.

" Watch this space "

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<bab5fbcb0708031115v277159e3p71be04f406626e79@...> (Who's name I

refuse to even try to pronounce. Sounds like one of those ubiquitous spam

sources) ;-) and Margret, said...

> I certainly hope so, because I am sick and tired of swallowing a

> pharmacy every single day.

Yes, I empathise! Many people found that they could wean themselves of

medications, but it is wise to do this under the direction of a doctor unless

you are a rebel like me ;-0

And me ;-)

What seems like eons ago (about March, April) there was mention of quiting

medication. I seem to be one of the lucky members in that I'm brewing 'coz I

like it and future benefits.

However I seem to recall saying some thing like I was on " Knee pills " and was

willing to risk giving them up.

I was on Glucosamine & Chondroitin for a pair of knees which felt a wee bit

older than I did. Somehow this became...Cortaflex HA

1%Glucuronic Acid, Hyaluronic Acid (HA), Glutamic Acid, L-Glutamine, Aspartic

Acid and Glycine.

I can't, in all honesty, say that one is/was any better than t'other but I can

say that, if I discontinued taking them herself noticed and commented.

I've now been off them since April and the boss has never noticed.

" Watch this space "

Nn. England.

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<bab5fbcb0708031115v277159e3p71be04f406626e79@...> (Who's name I

refuse to even try to pronounce. Sounds like one of those ubiquitous spam

sources) ;-) and Margret, said...

> I certainly hope so, because I am sick and tired of swallowing a

> pharmacy every single day.

Yes, I empathise! Many people found that they could wean themselves of

medications, but it is wise to do this under the direction of a doctor unless

you are a rebel like me ;-0

And me ;-)

What seems like eons ago (about March, April) there was mention of quiting

medication. I seem to be one of the lucky members in that I'm brewing 'coz I

like it and future benefits.

However I seem to recall saying some thing like I was on " Knee pills " and was

willing to risk giving them up.

I was on Glucosamine & Chondroitin for a pair of knees which felt a wee bit

older than I did. Somehow this became...Cortaflex HA

1%Glucuronic Acid, Hyaluronic Acid (HA), Glutamic Acid, L-Glutamine, Aspartic

Acid and Glycine.

I can't, in all honesty, say that one is/was any better than t'other but I can

say that, if I discontinued taking them herself noticed and commented.

I've now been off them since April and the boss has never noticed.

" Watch this space "

Nn. England.

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[Guest guest]

On 8/4/07, Margret Pegg <Minstrel@...> wrote:

> Really? That sounds well weird to me ... well, cup measures always do.

> My conversion tables puts a 1/4 cup at the microscopic amount of not quite

> 60 millilitres which is about 4 tbsps... Well, everyone to their own!

> Maybe they are allergic to larger amounts.

Yes, that would be 4 T.

I am grateful to all who said it's a personal decision about how much

to drink. That sounds more sensible to me than the dire things this

Canadian said.

I try to alternate between KT and water, as I am not a fond

> water drinker, I get a cup of KT as reward for having been good ;-)

LOL!! I drink a LOT of water a day. I've read in many many many

places that for good weight loss a person should drink 1/2 their body

weight in water a day. I mentioned that at Weight Watchers the other

day and someone responded that the world didn't contain as much water

as half her body weight. After an instant of shock, there was

uproarious laughter when the ridiculous nature of her statement

finally dawned on us.

Love it that you regard KT as reward for drinking water.

> > What with patience being a virtue, I am willing to practice it,

> > however I'd appreciate an estimate of what " considerably longer " might

> > mean.

> Ah, I see you have a scientific mind (just like my husband who goes quite

> mad about my non-specific instructions ;-)

No... merely there are limits to my virtuous patience!! And I have

more than my fair share of curiosity. Plus I am eager to start

drinking the stuff.

I liked it so much with the spirulina that I am hoping to find some at

the coop to add to by KT. And I will watch out for the exuberant

effervences , thanks for the warning!!

>

> The truth of the matter is, the cut-off point, i.e. bottling point comes

> when the KT either tastes like you like it or (in case of a diabetic who

> needs to shun sugar) until it has become acidic enough. It is completely

> up to you, Sr. Gloriamarie. :-)

Ok I can handle that!!

> It should really make very little difference.

> It is important that you get used to your particular jar, doing the recipe

> you like or vary, brewing it to the taste that is acceptable to YOU!

> There are as many methods as there are people.

Ok. No hard and fast rules. I can live with that.

>

> I actually do alot of my brewing and cooking by divine inspiration.

Hey!! Me too!! Well,cooking at least. But I found that the better

informed I became about cooking, the easier to respond to divine

inspiration. I imagine that principle will hold true with KT also.

> here. So, let the Spirit of God dance a wonderful Kombucha jig in your heart!

LOVE IT!!

> Not really.Just make sure you have a reasonable acidity in you KT.

> If you do not immediately go for making a second brew, leave your scoby/s

> in the brewing jar well covered with KT and cover. You can then use this

> as new starter. The longer you don't get round to making another brew the

> more acidic a starter liquid you get, and that works out to your advantage!

As of today, mine has been brewing for 13 days. Just had a taste...

starting to taste a bit fizzy but still too sweet. Do liek the looks

of the scoby though... I mean in that I have one. What a good one is

supposed to look like, I've no idea. And let us remember that I

started mine from bottled stuff.

> There is no hurry. I just thought I mention it because you, as also I

> are battling the bulge. So any help is welcome.

indeed it is!

That is how it is possible to leave just KT standing in a

> covered jar and it will grow another scoby on top. The bacteria that

> are in the KT will again do what Kombucha bacteria do and build the

> scoby house on top.Neat, isn't it?

Goodness!! So I can expect to be over run with babies? And I never

did want to have children! What am I going to do with all these baby

scobys?

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May the Holy Spirit dance in our hearts!

Sister Gloriamarie Amalfitano, S/FC

http://knitternun.blogspot.com

SanDiegoFiberFolk

KnitternunMeditation/

MereBenedictines/

LET US BEGIN TO SEE BEYOND race, beyond culture, beyond gender, beyond

sexual orientation, beyond religion, beyond, beyond all these

externals and see each other as God's beloved. When we relate to

others as God relates to us, our sense of being God's beloved deepens

even more.

From page 25 of The Way of Transforming Discipleship by Trevor Hudson

and D. . Copyright © 2005 by Upper Room Books.

[Guest guest]

On 8/4/07, Margret Pegg <Minstrel@...> wrote:

> Really? That sounds well weird to me ... well, cup measures always do.

> My conversion tables puts a 1/4 cup at the microscopic amount of not quite

> 60 millilitres which is about 4 tbsps... Well, everyone to their own!

> Maybe they are allergic to larger amounts.

Yes, that would be 4 T.

I am grateful to all who said it's a personal decision about how much

to drink. That sounds more sensible to me than the dire things this

Canadian said.

I try to alternate between KT and water, as I am not a fond

> water drinker, I get a cup of KT as reward for having been good ;-)

LOL!! I drink a LOT of water a day. I've read in many many many

places that for good weight loss a person should drink 1/2 their body

weight in water a day. I mentioned that at Weight Watchers the other

day and someone responded that the world didn't contain as much water

as half her body weight. After an instant of shock, there was

uproarious laughter when the ridiculous nature of her statement

finally dawned on us.

Love it that you regard KT as reward for drinking water.

> > What with patience being a virtue, I am willing to practice it,

> > however I'd appreciate an estimate of what " considerably longer " might

> > mean.

> Ah, I see you have a scientific mind (just like my husband who goes quite

> mad about my non-specific instructions ;-)

No... merely there are limits to my virtuous patience!! And I have

more than my fair share of curiosity. Plus I am eager to start

drinking the stuff.

I liked it so much with the spirulina that I am hoping to find some at

the coop to add to by KT. And I will watch out for the exuberant

effervences , thanks for the warning!!

>

> The truth of the matter is, the cut-off point, i.e. bottling point comes

> when the KT either tastes like you like it or (in case of a diabetic who

> needs to shun sugar) until it has become acidic enough. It is completely

> up to you, Sr. Gloriamarie. :-)

Ok I can handle that!!

> It should really make very little difference.

> It is important that you get used to your particular jar, doing the recipe

> you like or vary, brewing it to the taste that is acceptable to YOU!

> There are as many methods as there are people.

Ok. No hard and fast rules. I can live with that.

>

> I actually do alot of my brewing and cooking by divine inspiration.

Hey!! Me too!! Well,cooking at least. But I found that the better

informed I became about cooking, the easier to respond to divine

inspiration. I imagine that principle will hold true with KT also.

> here. So, let the Spirit of God dance a wonderful Kombucha jig in your heart!

LOVE IT!!

> Not really.Just make sure you have a reasonable acidity in you KT.

> If you do not immediately go for making a second brew, leave your scoby/s

> in the brewing jar well covered with KT and cover. You can then use this

> as new starter. The longer you don't get round to making another brew the

> more acidic a starter liquid you get, and that works out to your advantage!

As of today, mine has been brewing for 13 days. Just had a taste...

starting to taste a bit fizzy but still too sweet. Do liek the looks

of the scoby though... I mean in that I have one. What a good one is

supposed to look like, I've no idea. And let us remember that I

started mine from bottled stuff.

> There is no hurry. I just thought I mention it because you, as also I

> are battling the bulge. So any help is welcome.

indeed it is!

That is how it is possible to leave just KT standing in a

> covered jar and it will grow another scoby on top. The bacteria that

> are in the KT will again do what Kombucha bacteria do and build the

> scoby house on top.Neat, isn't it?

Goodness!! So I can expect to be over run with babies? And I never

did want to have children! What am I going to do with all these baby

scobys?

--

-

May the Holy Spirit dance in our hearts!

Sister Gloriamarie Amalfitano, S/FC

http://knitternun.blogspot.com

SanDiegoFiberFolk

KnitternunMeditation/

MereBenedictines/

LET US BEGIN TO SEE BEYOND race, beyond culture, beyond gender, beyond

sexual orientation, beyond religion, beyond, beyond all these

externals and see each other as God's beloved. When we relate to

others as God relates to us, our sense of being God's beloved deepens

even more.

From page 25 of The Way of Transforming Discipleship by Trevor Hudson

and D. . Copyright © 2005 by Upper Room Books.

[Guest guest]

On 8/4/07, Joyce <jmillerwolfe@...> wrote:

> How much KT any of us drink, I believe, is up to what our bodies tell

> us. Some can drink a quart or more a day; others can drink less than a

> half cup. Each of us finds out for ourself exactly how much we can

> tolerate, how much makes us feel good, how much makes us feel not so

> good. I do agree with those who suggest drinking it before eating,

> even though I am guilty of drinking it alone with my meal because I

> like the taste.

Thank you for this reassurance. I admit... I drank that first bottle

of GT KT with the spirulina in and I felt GRRREAT!! And I had one of

the best night's sleep.

But reading this list... makes me wonder if that wasw a placebo effect

since you folk seem to report the effect is cumulative and not

instaneous. Unless of course, my system is so deplete that I did

genuinely experience such an effect.

--

-

May the Holy Spirit dance in our hearts!

Sister Gloriamarie Amalfitano, S/FC

http://knitternun.blogspot.com

SanDiegoFiberFolk

KnitternunMeditation/

MereBenedictines/

LET US BEGIN TO SEE BEYOND race, beyond culture, beyond gender, beyond

sexual orientation, beyond religion, beyond, beyond all these

externals and see each other as God's beloved. When we relate to

others as God relates to us, our sense of being God's beloved deepens

even more.

From page 25 of The Way of Transforming Discipleship by Trevor Hudson

and D. . Copyright © 2005 by Upper Room Books.

[Guest guest]

On 8/4/07, Joyce <jmillerwolfe@...> wrote:

> How much KT any of us drink, I believe, is up to what our bodies tell

> us. Some can drink a quart or more a day; others can drink less than a

> half cup. Each of us finds out for ourself exactly how much we can

> tolerate, how much makes us feel good, how much makes us feel not so

> good. I do agree with those who suggest drinking it before eating,

> even though I am guilty of drinking it alone with my meal because I

> like the taste.

Thank you for this reassurance. I admit... I drank that first bottle

of GT KT with the spirulina in and I felt GRRREAT!! And I had one of

the best night's sleep.

But reading this list... makes me wonder if that wasw a placebo effect

since you folk seem to report the effect is cumulative and not

instaneous. Unless of course, my system is so deplete that I did

genuinely experience such an effect.

--

-

May the Holy Spirit dance in our hearts!

Sister Gloriamarie Amalfitano, S/FC

http://knitternun.blogspot.com

SanDiegoFiberFolk

KnitternunMeditation/

MereBenedictines/

LET US BEGIN TO SEE BEYOND race, beyond culture, beyond gender, beyond

sexual orientation, beyond religion, beyond, beyond all these

externals and see each other as God's beloved. When we relate to

others as God relates to us, our sense of being God's beloved deepens

even more.

From page 25 of The Way of Transforming Discipleship by Trevor Hudson

and D. . Copyright © 2005 by Upper Room Books.

[Guest guest]

On 8/4/07, Kane <brainnake@...> wrote:

> <bab5fbcb0708031115v277159e3p71be04f406626e79@...> (Who's name I

refuse to even try to pronounce. Sounds like one of those ubiquitous spam

sources) ;-)

I could make some comments about people with names of only 4

letters... ... sniff sniff

> Yes, I empathise! Many people found that they could wean themselves of

> medications, but it is wise to do this under the direction of a doctor unless

> you are a rebel like me ;-0

> And me ;-)

What can i say... I was an original hippie...

Oh dear... should I explain? Perhaps the concept of " hippie " is

unknown in the UK?

tee hee <g,d,r>

--

-

May the Holy Spirit dance in our hearts!

Sister Gloriamarie Amalfitano, S/FC

http://knitternun.blogspot.com

SanDiegoFiberFolk

KnitternunMeditation/

MereBenedictines/

LET US BEGIN TO SEE BEYOND race, beyond culture, beyond gender, beyond

sexual orientation, beyond religion, beyond, beyond all these

externals and see each other as God's beloved. When we relate to

others as God relates to us, our sense of being God's beloved deepens

even more.

From page 25 of The Way of Transforming Discipleship by Trevor Hudson

and D. . Copyright © 2005 by Upper Room Books.

[Guest guest]

On 8/4/07, Kane <brainnake@...> wrote:

> <bab5fbcb0708031115v277159e3p71be04f406626e79@...> (Who's name I

refuse to even try to pronounce. Sounds like one of those ubiquitous spam

sources) ;-)

I could make some comments about people with names of only 4

letters... ... sniff sniff

> Yes, I empathise! Many people found that they could wean themselves of

> medications, but it is wise to do this under the direction of a doctor unless

> you are a rebel like me ;-0

> And me ;-)

What can i say... I was an original hippie...

Oh dear... should I explain? Perhaps the concept of " hippie " is

unknown in the UK?

tee hee <g,d,r>

--

-

May the Holy Spirit dance in our hearts!

Sister Gloriamarie Amalfitano, S/FC

http://knitternun.blogspot.com

SanDiegoFiberFolk

KnitternunMeditation/

MereBenedictines/

LET US BEGIN TO SEE BEYOND race, beyond culture, beyond gender, beyond

sexual orientation, beyond religion, beyond, beyond all these

externals and see each other as God's beloved. When we relate to

others as God relates to us, our sense of being God's beloved deepens

even more.

From page 25 of The Way of Transforming Discipleship by Trevor Hudson

and D. . Copyright © 2005 by Upper Room Books.

[Guest guest]

I could make some comments about people with names of only 4

letters... ... sniff sniff

Ooops

it wasn't the " Gloriamarie Amalfitano " I found difficult, it was the

following...

The letter appeared to come from:-

<bab5fbcb0708031115v277159e3p71be04f406626e79@...>

That's the pro nun ciation I was finding difficult {;-))}

If you'll pardon the pun.

Bother ye not on the subject of...

Oh dear... should I explain? Perhaps the concept of " hippie " is

unknown in the UK?

We had them. You should have seen me in a green waistcoat bedecked in red

Paisley palm pattern.

tee hee <g,d,r> To the power three (Appropriate?)

Nn. England.

--

-

May the Holy Spirit dance in our hearts!

Sister Gloriamarie Amalfitano, S/FC

http://knitternun.blogspot.com

SanDiegoFiberFolk

KnitternunMeditation/

MereBenedictines/

LET US BEGIN TO SEE BEYOND race, beyond culture, beyond gender, beyond

sexual orientation, beyond religion, beyond, beyond all these

externals and see each other as God's beloved. When we relate to

others as God relates to us, our sense of being God's beloved deepens

even more.

[Guest guest]

I could make some comments about people with names of only 4

letters... ... sniff sniff

Ooops

it wasn't the " Gloriamarie Amalfitano " I found difficult, it was the

following...

The letter appeared to come from:-

<bab5fbcb0708031115v277159e3p71be04f406626e79@...>

That's the pro nun ciation I was finding difficult {;-))}

If you'll pardon the pun.

Bother ye not on the subject of...

Oh dear... should I explain? Perhaps the concept of " hippie " is

unknown in the UK?

We had them. You should have seen me in a green waistcoat bedecked in red

Paisley palm pattern.

tee hee <g,d,r> To the power three (Appropriate?)

Nn. England.

--

-

May the Holy Spirit dance in our hearts!

Sister Gloriamarie Amalfitano, S/FC

http://knitternun.blogspot.com

SanDiegoFiberFolk

KnitternunMeditation/

MereBenedictines/

LET US BEGIN TO SEE BEYOND race, beyond culture, beyond gender, beyond

sexual orientation, beyond religion, beyond, beyond all these

externals and see each other as God's beloved. When we relate to

others as God relates to us, our sense of being God's beloved deepens

even more.

[Guest guest]

In message <bab5fbcb0708041235m16757fbfxa1703a7914d39ca3@...> you

wrote:

>

> As of today, mine has been brewing for 13 days. Just had a taste...

> starting to taste a bit fizzy but still too sweet. Do like the looks

> of the scoby though... I mean in that I have one. What a good one is

> supposed to look like, I've no idea. And let us remember that I

> started mine from bottled stuff.

As I said before, dear Sr Gloriamarie, especially with a first brew,

patience is of the essence. You need to let it go until you have

sufficient acidity.

I suspect, that what you get from the commercial bottle is a very

bacteria-sided ferment, meaning, that the yeasts are very retarded or

dormant. With that method you can brew a very long time (30 days)

and still get a very pleasant brew and a brew that does not burst bottles

as easily as the normal brew which has plenty of yeasts with strong

secondary fermentation in the bottle.

As Ed, the Happy Herbalist pointed out, you lose some of the

typical acetic acid in the brew, though, for which the yeasts are

responsible.

On the other end of the scale, if you happen to have a brew in which the

yeasts predominate, they will very rapidly eat up the sugar and turn it

into acetic acid, giving you a mouthpuckeringly sour brew.

That's why I was saying earlier in another post, that it may be important

to check the yeasts before they overrun the brew... giving a coarse,

yeasty tasting, beery taste. Here you will have plenty of time to

develop your skill as an expert brewer, learning to balance your brew

well between yeasts and bacteria.

But so far, there is absolutely no danger of your brew getting overrun by

the yeasts.

You still lack yeasts in your brew, that's why fermentating out the

sugar is so slow... not enough yeasts to gobble the sugar at a good

rate.

> Goodness!! So I can expect to be over run with babies? And I never

> did want to have children! What am I going to do with all these baby

> scobys?

To judge from the slowness of your ferment ATM, I don't think that you

are in any immediate danger there ;-)

Blessings,

Margret:-)

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> As of today, mine has been brewing for 13 days. Just had a taste...

> starting to taste a bit fizzy but still too sweet. Do like the looks

> of the scoby though... I mean in that I have one. What a good one is

> supposed to look like, I've no idea. And let us remember that I

> started mine from bottled stuff.

As I said before, dear Sr Gloriamarie, especially with a first brew,

patience is of the essence. You need to let it go until you have

sufficient acidity.

I suspect, that what you get from the commercial bottle is a very

bacteria-sided ferment, meaning, that the yeasts are very retarded or

dormant. With that method you can brew a very long time (30 days)

and still get a very pleasant brew and a brew that does not burst bottles

as easily as the normal brew which has plenty of yeasts with strong

secondary fermentation in the bottle.

As Ed, the Happy Herbalist pointed out, you lose some of the

typical acetic acid in the brew, though, for which the yeasts are

responsible.

On the other end of the scale, if you happen to have a brew in which the

yeasts predominate, they will very rapidly eat up the sugar and turn it

into acetic acid, giving you a mouthpuckeringly sour brew.

That's why I was saying earlier in another post, that it may be important

to check the yeasts before they overrun the brew... giving a coarse,

yeasty tasting, beery taste. Here you will have plenty of time to

develop your skill as an expert brewer, learning to balance your brew

well between yeasts and bacteria.

But so far, there is absolutely no danger of your brew getting overrun by

the yeasts.

You still lack yeasts in your brew, that's why fermentating out the

sugar is so slow... not enough yeasts to gobble the sugar at a good

rate.

> Goodness!! So I can expect to be over run with babies? And I never

> did want to have children! What am I going to do with all these baby

> scobys?

To judge from the slowness of your ferment ATM, I don't think that you

are in any immediate danger there ;-)

Blessings,

Margret:-)

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On 8/4/07, Margret Pegg <Minstrel@...> wrote:

> > Goodness!! So I can expect to be over run with babies? And I never

> > did want to have children! What am I going to do with all these baby

> > scobys?

>

> To judge from the slowness of your ferment ATM, I don't think that you

> are in any immediate danger there ;-)

ROTFLMAO

Thanks for all your patience with all my questions. And having an

inquiring mind, i doubt I am past asking them yet.

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