Guest guest Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Ross,If a client is getting frustrated, that often means the trainer has mis-set the targets. I like, with nIR, to run the first session or 2 just having him look at the graph and see what it is that makes the line on the trend object rise. Once he realizes that there is a way he pays attention that changes his performance, there is a greater sense of control. I'd be inclined to set something like 80% auto threshold at least for a while if you're going to use video. You can also switch from Enable to Brightness, so the video doesn't stop but simply darkens. Bear in mind that most 7-year-olds don't have much of a prefrontal cortex. It doesn't fully come online until the early-to-mid 20's. So the training he is doing now is probably first bringing him up to a reasonable level for his age, and then he will move past what others his age can do. Pete-- Van Deusenpvdtlc@...http://www.brain-trainer.comUSA 305 433 3160BR 47 3346 6235 The Learning Curve, Inc. On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Ross <rashley@...> wrote: [Attachment(s) from Ross included below] I started a nirHEG course with him in the first week of Dec., using Bioexplorer with a design that pauses a video when measured blood flow falls below a manually set threshold. I have been using videos of cartoons that he likes. He just turned 7 earlier this month. The changes aren't night and day. Most days we don't think neurofeedback is working at all but there are little signs that it is. It's hard to quantify, which is why I'm writing this. I spent some time in late Nov looking for an open source version of the Test of Variables of Attention (TOVA) and found one as a part of a more generalized battery called PEBL. The test is called Toav. As far as I can tell it's very similar to TOVA with the exception being that it costs $0. For those who are not familiar with it, it is a 24 minute test where the subject presses a button when a simple target appears on the computer screen and doesn't press the button when a false target appears. The first time we did the test, he applied himself for about 15 seconds, then refused to carry on, no matter how much I pleaded, cajoled and offered for reward. He hated it, and spent most of the test yelling about how boring it was. He was immediately put off and rebelled for about 10 minutes. I eventually coaxed him back to the keyboard and he applied himself again for about 15 seconds and then began randomly pressing keys and complaining. The first trial was difficult to say the least. Today we did the test again. He complained about being asked to do it again but not as strenuously. He applied himself for about 45 seconds and then flatly refused to go on. I offered a reward and told him I knew he could do it, etc. To my surprise, he started trying. He squirmed in the chair, at one time tapping the space bar with his feet, but he kept going. At times he actually had an intense look on his face. He completed the entire test. Here are the reports generated by the test. I am including them as attachments since the formatting might not come through. The first report is for the first test. 2010 Nov. 27 --------------------------------------------------- Statistic Half 1 Half 2 Pooled --------------------------------------------------- Total Trials 320 320 640 Correct Targets 38 22 60 Correct Foils 157 65 222 Correct Trials 195 87 282 Commission Errors 91 7 98 Ommission Errors 260 0 260 Correct RT Mean 445 456 449 Error RT Mean 405 600 419 RT Mean 417 490 430 RT SD 378 437 390 Anticipations 22 22 44 Multiple Responses 24 24 48 --------------------------------------------------- 2011 Jan 23 --------------------------------------------------- Statistic Half 1 Half 2 Pooled --------------------------------------------------- Total Trials 320 320 640 Correct Targets 67 238 305 Correct Foils 141 17 158 Correct Trials 208 255 463 Commission Errors 107 55 162 Ommission Errors 15 0 15 Correct RT Mean 479 390 410 Error RT Mean 443 375 420 RT Mean 457 387 413 RT SD 366 345 354 Anticipations 9 9 18 Multiple Responses 11 11 22 --------------------------------------------------- It's hard to quantify a problem like ADD/ADHD. His day to day behavior is pretty erratic. He has a very short working memory and has a hard time being still. But the reward I offered today was a trip to the bookstore of all places where he could spend his own money buying a Geronimo Stilton book. That seemed to work today and it wouldn't have worked 2 months ago, although he has been reading for almost a year. His diet is great. He gets enough sleep at night and he gets plenty of physical activity. I wish I could see more day to day improvement in hyperactivity and in working memory. He doesn't like to apply himself to a task that will require thought. But right now he is reading in bed. That new book of his is 320 pages and he's already read 50+. I think this is working. Like I mentioned, the changes are subtle but they are there. We'll take the test again after 20 more sessions. --Ross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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