Re: 's Coherence Protocol?

September 20, 2010

I'm not sure I understand. The parietals are being trained with a common reference of Cz.Mark

's Coherence Protocol?

When I read about 's protocol (P3+Cz P4+Cz) I thought he was rewarding 12-15hz amplitude, thus possibly decreasing the 12-15hz coherence, and/or encouraging the parietal lobes to have different 12-15hz amplitude than the SMC and/or medial cingulate. Quite a bit different than increasing 12-15hz coherence between the parietal lobes & SMC and/or cingulate. But I guess that's probably not the case since increasing coherence with bipolar placements would be telling the brain to do... I have no idea but it sounds interesting. I'll have to try it on myself. Thanks for sharing,Bill>> Hi JW,> > I use the TT Infiniti system but I have the software used by the BM. So you can use that alright.> You do not do one channel first and then another. So you need a two channel system.> If you don't have such system do not do anything. Both, left and right sides, have to be working> at the same time so that you can have a good coherence between left/right sides. > > So if you have a two channel system, connect P3+Cz to one channel and then the P4+Cz to another.> Use a 2 channel setup from the BM and choose the 12-15Hz (or the SMR setup) up.> Do it for just 12-15 minutes (no more).> > Bye for now,> > > -------> Prof.Dr. Alvoeiro,Ph.D.(Hull,UK),C.Psychol.(BPS,UK)> > 2000-119 Santarem, > Portugal> E-mail: jorge.alvoeiro@... > http://cienciacognitiva.planetaclix.pt/> > > ________________________________> > De: em nome de st4rcycle> Enviada: sex 9/17/2010 19:18> Para: > Assunto: 's Coherence Protocol> > > > Okay - I think I have this designed right, but would just like to run it by everyone to make sure it looks okay.> > I have two Sources (1 for each channel) both going into a single Coherence object set to 12-15Hz.> > The Coherence goes into a Threshold object, which is set for increase. 75 percent reward seemed reasonable.> > Then the threshold simply goes out to DVD or midi reward bell. Very simple.> > I don't have a Y cable, so I thought I would just use two electrodes as close to Cz as possible, and link them with the linked reference cable.> > If that approach is not recommended or correct, my other thought was to do the same basic design but as single channel training, training P3+Cz for a while, and then just switching the active electrode to P4 for a while.> > Comments?> > thank you,> JW> > > > ------------------------------------> >

September 21, 2010

Hi,

This probable confusion about the 12-15Hz may be because most people use the

monopolar system.

So, here goes once more (and for the last time).

Place one electrode on the P3 position (using the 10-20 system). Place the other

on the Cz. The

black/earth electrode on the ear lobe. Connect this to one channel. (on the TT

Infiniti I use this is the

channel C).

Place another electrode on P4 and the other on Cz (if you have a Y cable you can

use just one

lead on the Cz and the other two connectors on the 2 reference/yellow sockets).

The black/earth

to the other ear lobe. This goes to the second channel (like D) (you can also do

the left/right ear link

as well as)

Switch your system on and if you have the the TLC software choose TLC FD 2EEG

Mainly for

statistics. Choose the screen 2EEG Review - Large bands with ratios and means.

This can

give you the data and any other information regarding any diferences between

left and right

sides of your brain.

Then, choose the TLC FD 2EEG Mainly for Feedback and choose one of the the

screens

C+D Beta Balance (the + sign I use for the P3+Cz & P4+Cz comes from here)

The threshold can be left on automatic.

Bye (and I'm closing the " shop " now)

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Prof.Dr. Alvoeiro,Ph.D.(Hull,UK),C.Psychol.(BPS,UK)

2000-119 Santarem,

Portugal

E-mail: jorge.alvoeiro@...

http://cienciacognitiva.planetaclix.pt/