& Rainbow (was: Aspie Hate Site, Or Unique Mannerisms?)

[Guest guest]

& Rainbow, let's see if we can sort this out:

Rainbow, although I somewhat agree that the victims of bullying may have SOME co-responsibility for their situation, not everyone is in a position to do what you did to your bully, and I think some of your remarks about bullying were rather insensitive considering how many of our members have testified to having been bullied in the most atrocious manner. Some may have been brutally gang-mobbed in places they had no choice but to attend (such as school) and no way in which to neither defend themselves nor escape. Others may have "only" been subject to verbal bullying, which can actually be worse since it really eats away at your self-esteem if prolonged for years and by many different people - unless you're exceedingly resilient (which most humans are not).

Such horrid experiences can leave scars for life and make people very sensitive to anything that reminds them of that. In this case, the humorous (?) hate site seems to have reminded of being picked on by others, and from THAT perspective I can understand that he felt anyone laughing at it would be equivalent to someone laughing at a hate-site against any other minority or disability. Humour is too often used as a weapon by people/groups with a specific agenda and can have a devastating effect if successful (I can give plenty of examples from history, if anyone is interested).

That said, I PERSONALLY can actually laugh at MYSELF, and don't take hate against me or jokes at my expense overly seriously. But comes from another experience and is free to have the reaction he has.

But...

, you specifically ASKED for opinions/reactions to that site. I'd like you to realize that everyone else too is free to have whichever opinion or reaction they happen to have.

And Rainbow is correct that HE did NOT ask YOU to critique his reply to your query.

Even if you don't agree with or like other people's opinions/replies, you really have no right to try to change them. Doing so IS actually a milder form of harassment. All you can do is express your OWN opinion or pain, and perhaps decide not to talk to those whose opinions are too far from your own.

So, the two of you will just have to agree to disagree on this one. :-)

Inger, as co-administrator

Re: Re: Aspie Hate Site, Or Unique Mannerisms?

I am not sure which reality you are coming from but your interpretation that I am bullying is out of line. I will speak my mind, express my view and read others like I do.

Are you an admin here?

1. I have never forced my opinion on others This is a delusion and false understanding of me.

2. I reply concerning the conversation as a whole, not so much an individual but anyone whom laughed at the site I don't wish to be party to.

Seeming your post is rattled with bad communications between us two I don't feel it wise to reply in whole. If you need clarification concerning my mind please ask privately.

The best way to communicate with me is to be short and precise even listing things for the minds categorizations. Long things just mush together intellectually and keeping on one specific topic is important.

Two times M.A.D T.V was mentioned in this topic and all I know of that program is there making of others.

The asking if you were bullied was to construct an understanding of your position on the matter.

Again anyone whom laughs at this site or others, that disgraces, degrades disrespects or in any way trashes real human beings with developmental differences I consider no different then the authors.

Though I understand that “laughing” can be a gesture of “lightening things up” as to revert or displace the seriousness.

I think that product debates include a diversity of views however when clear confusions arise it is best to not communicate with that person.

If you have any additional problems with me specifically ask me privately to clear up your confusions.

"All I ever get from your posts is bullying, you want/demand us all to agree to see things your way, period. "

Absurd!

natronpc@...

I'm still reading replies..."Rainbow ." <rainbow@...> wrote:

>Natron: "..... perhaps to (sic) much Mad T.V?"

I NEVER mentioned "Mad TV" I have never seen Mad TV. I have no idea what Mad TV is, or is about. Most generally TV is for and about advertising. It exists in order to SELL things people don't know or care about, don't want, and don't need.

>"Respect and dignity are common sense and form (sic) what I understand most humans lack common sense to a certain extent."

This statement has nothing to do with anything I have posted about and is totally irrelevant to the ongoing conversation. I have no problem with the statement itself. It is NOT RELEVANT!

Common means 'it's everywhere'! Common means it is NOT unusual! MOST people express 'common' sense - by definition! Your choice and use of the English language now, and often, leaves much to be desired. Please, , as an old man I urge you go to school! Meet people, make friends and listen and learn how others express themselves, that you might better understand and express your own thoughts and feelings, especially when those thoughts and feelings involve others. All I ever get from your posts is bullying, you want/demand us all to agree to see things your way, period. Time and again you leave us no room to have an honest difference of opinion. It's got to be the way YOU see things. That's not the way the world works!

>"Were you ever bullied, complete trashed just for existing?"

I remember being teased and picked on in seventh grade until I had enough and grabbed the bully and made him 'give'. Bullying comes in pairs, it never happens in a crowd of one. It takes two to be bullied, a bully and a gutless wonder to receive bulling. Both are equally inappropriate behaviors. Most of us outgrow such childishness, the process is called - maturity (growing up).

, I hope you accept these remarks in the positive manner in which they are intended. From your statement I infer that bullying has been a part of your life experience. Whether you were in on the give or the take I could care less, the combination is sick. In this day and age NO ONE need suffer being bullied. Walk away!!!!! It's a big world. As for bullies, they will reap what they sow. To twist someone's phrase: "There will always be a bigger bully......"

Back to the website you asked us to comment on.....

I find myself unable to see anything hateful, demeaning, or hurtful about it. My remarks have led you to comment on my thoughts and beliefs that I did not ask YOU for. The website is question is HUMOR/Satire/Parody, don't you get it? It's humor is an expression of our ability to laugh at human frailties through the recognition of particular patterns of behavior in a subgroup of our culture.

Please be at peace. No one is 'out to get you'. No one is attacking you. If you would only look around you and become increasingly aware of God/ess's grace and blessings which abundantly surround you, you will become a happy and satisfied member of the human race, able to express joy and exuberance at all of life's gifts. We are only here such a short time, so please, make the best use of your thoughts, words, and above all deeds. Remember, you are unique, just like everybody else.

Respectfully,

Rainbow