Guest guest Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think this is possible. California Domestic Partnership status was strengthened last year and now is almost the same as marriage. Your assets and liabilities would be "community property" and if you split up, you would have to get divorced. Also starting in 2007 registered domestic partners have to file joint tax returns in California (even though you still have to file separate single status returns with the IRS) - if both of you have jobs, this is likely to make your California tax liability go UP. If you're not ready to be equivalent to being married, registering is not a good idea ... A Bit Off-Topic: Insurance My b/f and I live in California where he has great medical benefits. We are thinking of becoming registered partners so I can enjoy those benefits. We do not want to live together, nor share any financial assets or liablities. Is this plan possible? Thanks.************ ********* ********* ******** See what's free at http://www.aol. com. Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think this is possible. California Domestic Partnership status was strengthened last year and now is almost the same as marriage. Your assets and liabilities would be "community property" and if you split up, you would have to get divorced. Also starting in 2007 registered domestic partners have to file joint tax returns in California (even though you still have to file separate single status returns with the IRS) - if both of you have jobs, this is likely to make your California tax liability go UP. If you're not ready to be equivalent to being married, registering is not a good idea ... A Bit Off-Topic: Insurance My b/f and I live in California where he has great medical benefits. We are thinking of becoming registered partners so I can enjoy those benefits. We do not want to live together, nor share any financial assets or liablities. Is this plan possible? Thanks.************ ********* ********* ******** See what's free at http://www.aol. com. Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think this is possible. California Domestic Partnership status was strengthened last year and now is almost the same as marriage. Your assets and liabilities would be "community property" and if you split up, you would have to get divorced. Also starting in 2007 registered domestic partners have to file joint tax returns in California (even though you still have to file separate single status returns with the IRS) - if both of you have jobs, this is likely to make your California tax liability go UP. If you're not ready to be equivalent to being married, registering is not a good idea ... A Bit Off-Topic: Insurance My b/f and I live in California where he has great medical benefits. We are thinking of becoming registered partners so I can enjoy those benefits. We do not want to live together, nor share any financial assets or liablities. Is this plan possible? Thanks.************ ********* ********* ******** See what's free at http://www.aol. com. Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 I agree with . With the benefits come responsibilities. Getting registered simply to access benefits is fraud. One of the requirements for domestic partnership is sharing a household. You can (and most couples probably should) create a " pre-nuptial " agreement to protect assets acquired before the registration. Keep in mind, though, that California is a community property state and that any asset, earned income, or investment income earned after you are registered is community property. I think if gays & lesbians' plight for domestic partnerships/civil unions/marriage is to be given the weight it deserves by the mainstream community, then we as gays/lesbians need to give these unions the same weight that they do. Ramjet wrote: > I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think this is possible. California > Domestic Partnership status was strengthened last year and now is > almost the same as marriage. Your assets and liabilities would be > " community property " and if you split up, you would have to get > divorced. Also starting in 2007 registered domestic partners have to > file joint tax returns in California (even though you still have to > file separate single status returns with the IRS) - if both of you > have jobs, this is likely to make your California tax liability go UP. > If you're not ready to be equivalent to being married, registering is > not a good idea ... > > A Bit Off-Topic: Insurance > > My b/f and I live in California where he has great medical benefits. > We are thinking of becoming registered partners so I can enjoy those > benefits. We do not want to live together, nor share any financial > assets or liablities. Is this plan possible? > Thanks. > > > ************ ********* ********* ******** > See what's free at http://www.aol. com. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. > Play Sims Stories at Games. > <http://us.rd./evt=48224/*http://sims./> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 I agree with . With the benefits come responsibilities. Getting registered simply to access benefits is fraud. One of the requirements for domestic partnership is sharing a household. You can (and most couples probably should) create a " pre-nuptial " agreement to protect assets acquired before the registration. Keep in mind, though, that California is a community property state and that any asset, earned income, or investment income earned after you are registered is community property. I think if gays & lesbians' plight for domestic partnerships/civil unions/marriage is to be given the weight it deserves by the mainstream community, then we as gays/lesbians need to give these unions the same weight that they do. Ramjet wrote: > I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think this is possible. California > Domestic Partnership status was strengthened last year and now is > almost the same as marriage. Your assets and liabilities would be > " community property " and if you split up, you would have to get > divorced. Also starting in 2007 registered domestic partners have to > file joint tax returns in California (even though you still have to > file separate single status returns with the IRS) - if both of you > have jobs, this is likely to make your California tax liability go UP. > If you're not ready to be equivalent to being married, registering is > not a good idea ... > > A Bit Off-Topic: Insurance > > My b/f and I live in California where he has great medical benefits. > We are thinking of becoming registered partners so I can enjoy those > benefits. We do not want to live together, nor share any financial > assets or liablities. Is this plan possible? > Thanks. > > > ************ ********* ********* ******** > See what's free at http://www.aol. com. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. > Play Sims Stories at Games. > <http://us.rd./evt=48224/*http://sims./> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 It is true that California Domestic Partnership now includes all the rights and responsibilities of marriage, and may not be the best choice for you and your boyfriend (based on your description of your resationship), especially if one of you has debts, is an immigrant, or receives means-tested government benefits. However, California domestic partners can opt out of community property and post-partnership support provisions of California law by signing a written agreement before entering into the partnership. California domestic partners have the option of filing their California tax return jointly or as "married filing separately," which should yield the same result as if you weren't partners. So you probably could register as domestic partners with the state, but it may not be worth the trouble of entering into a written agreement. Check out the following web site created by Frederick Hertz, one of the leading attorneys in California in the area of domestic partnership agreements, and the author of a legal guide for gay couples. http://www.samesexlaw.com/html/dompartreg_options.html You may want to to check with your boyfriend's employer to find out if you have to be registered with the state as domestic partners in order to get the DP health insurance benefit, or if you can register with your city or county (assuming they have a domestic partner registry), or if you can simply sign a form provided by your boyfriend's employer. If the employer has its own form to determine who qualifies for DP benefits, it is likely they will ask you to certify that you live together and/or share responsibility for living expenses. You may have better options than your boyfriend's employer's plan. If you are Medicare and/or Medi-Cal eligible, those public health benefits together with California's ADAP program provide good coverage for most people. If you have a small business with at least one other employee, you can get small group insurance without any medical underwriting. Check with your local ASO to find out what benefits are available to you. Ramjet <roger92103@...> wrote: I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think this is possible. California Domestic Partnership status was strengthened last year and now is almost the same as marriage. Your assets and liabilities would be "community property" and if you split up, you would have to get divorced. Also starting in 2007 registered domestic partners have to file joint tax returns in California (even though you still have to file separate single status returns with the IRS) - if both of you have jobs, this is likely to make your California tax liability go UP. If you're not ready to be equivalent to being married, registering is not a good idea ... A Bit Off-Topic: Insurance My b/f and I live in California where he has great medical benefits. We are thinking of becoming registered partners so I can enjoy those benefits. We do not want to live together, nor share any financial assets or liablities. Is this plan possible?Thanks.************ ********* ********* ********See what's free at http://www.aol. com. Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story.Play Sims Stories at Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 It does seem that a couple getting employee covered health care should live together at the very least... Question: Would this affect ADAP also? It could also change income requirements for White funds, ASO's, housing assistance, medicaid/MediCal...all kinda of services if two incomes are added to the mix. This is the mixed bag when we ask for equality and marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} > #ygrp-text{ > font-family:Georgia; > } > #ygrp-text p{ > margin:0 0 1em 0;} > #ygrp-tpmsgs{ > font-family:Arial; > clear:both;} > #ygrp-vitnav{ > padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} > #ygrp-vitnav a{ > padding:0 1px;} > #ygrp-actbar{ > clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text- align:right;} > #ygrp-actbar .left{ > float:left;white-space:nowrap;} > .bld{font-weight:bold;} > #ygrp-grft{ > font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} > #ygrp-ft{ > font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; > padding:5px 0; > } > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ > padding-bottom:10px;} > > #ygrp-vital{ > background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} > #ygrp-vital #vithd{ > font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text- transform:uppercase;} > #ygrp-vital ul{ > padding:0;margin:2px 0;} > #ygrp-vital ul li{ > list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; > } > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ > font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text- align:right;padding-right:.5em;} > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ > font-weight:bold;} > #ygrp-vital a { > text-decoration:none;} > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{ > text-decoration:underline;} > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ > color:#999;font-size:77%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ > padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ > list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ > text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #nc { > background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ > padding:8px 0;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ > font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font- size:100%;line-height:122%;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ > text-decoration:none;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ > text-decoration:underline;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ > margin:0;} > o {font-size:0;} > .MsoNormal { > margin:0 0 0 0;} > #ygrp-text tt{ > font-size:120%;} > blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} > .replbq {margin:4;} > --> > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games. > http://sims./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 It does seem that a couple getting employee covered health care should live together at the very least... Question: Would this affect ADAP also? It could also change income requirements for White funds, ASO's, housing assistance, medicaid/MediCal...all kinda of services if two incomes are added to the mix. This is the mixed bag when we ask for equality and marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} > #ygrp-text{ > font-family:Georgia; > } > #ygrp-text p{ > margin:0 0 1em 0;} > #ygrp-tpmsgs{ > font-family:Arial; > clear:both;} > #ygrp-vitnav{ > padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} > #ygrp-vitnav a{ > padding:0 1px;} > #ygrp-actbar{ > clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text- align:right;} > #ygrp-actbar .left{ > float:left;white-space:nowrap;} > .bld{font-weight:bold;} > #ygrp-grft{ > font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} > #ygrp-ft{ > font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; > padding:5px 0; > } > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ > padding-bottom:10px;} > > #ygrp-vital{ > background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} > #ygrp-vital #vithd{ > font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text- transform:uppercase;} > #ygrp-vital ul{ > padding:0;margin:2px 0;} > #ygrp-vital ul li{ > list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; > } > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ > font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text- align:right;padding-right:.5em;} > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ > font-weight:bold;} > #ygrp-vital a { > text-decoration:none;} > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{ > text-decoration:underline;} > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ > color:#999;font-size:77%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ > padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ > list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ > text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #nc { > background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ > padding:8px 0;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ > font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font- size:100%;line-height:122%;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ > text-decoration:none;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ > text-decoration:underline;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ > margin:0;} > o {font-size:0;} > .MsoNormal { > margin:0 0 0 0;} > #ygrp-text tt{ > font-size:120%;} > blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} > .replbq {margin:4;} > --> > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games. > http://sims./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Not living together shouldn't necessarily mean that partners can't be a couple legally. Some married couples live in different parts of the country because of carreers. That's one of the differences between California's Domestic Partnership and marriage: by law, you have to be living together to enter into a Domestic Partnership, but you don't for marriage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Not living together shouldn't necessarily mean that partners can't be a couple legally. Some married couples live in different parts of the country because of carreers. That's one of the differences between California's Domestic Partnership and marriage: by law, you have to be living together to enter into a Domestic Partnership, but you don't for marriage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Not living together shouldn't necessarily mean that partners can't be a couple legally. Some married couples live in different parts of the country because of carreers. That's one of the differences between California's Domestic Partnership and marriage: by law, you have to be living together to enter into a Domestic Partnership, but you don't for marriage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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