Re: Socializing online/offline

[Guest guest]

,

Seeing as how you are the administrator of your own board, I should

think he would show you more consideration then just anyone who

wrote to him with a complaint.

If you go to Edan, he PROBABLY will be willing to help you although

I had recently written him rearding other matters about that board

and he said his policy is mostly to stay out of things.

But if he DOESN'T help you, then write a private message to me and I

will write to Edan on your behalf.

This board and the board you are talking about have certain

obligations and if we do not fulfill them, Edan has a right to

retract our rights to use the word " Aspergia " in the boards' titles

and to retract our rights to use the " Min " symbol.

Tom

Discrimination is not something I will tolerate. The owner of that

board also said he/she liked me and insulated that her liking-ness

of me was different then other people . What exactly was the

individual's goal? I do not know but this place has annoyed me to

the point that I want to have all my contents removed because of

what some people have done. They make fun of me because of who I am.

On the board it happened and the owner just said I was *iching. This

person is not someone with A.S or is just mean and vicious. However

it changes as in private chat where I was told both people messing

me ill. Also I was told that half the people on her board has

schizoid disorder of some kind.

I think she was talking about those with differences!

I resisted legally all my posts to be removed because of what has

been done to me by mean people. They are my private thoughts in

there database and are mine.

People play to many games.. On that board by that same person I was

called a criminal with cohorts. I want to be completely de-

affiliated with it, if they do not remove my posts I am going to

Aspergia to request through there.

Aspergia no one every treated me like that. Only one person

contacted me with swear words making fun of me and that same person

other then the person saying I needed social classes slandered me

clearly on that board with falsities here recently and I do not even

know him nor have I ever talked to him!

MY writing is my writing and my choice to have where I want. I don't

want it there anymore because of the way I was treated. My content

is my content and I do not want it there because of personal

information's and people telling me on that board that people can

find me from online. This was after my abortion stance.

[Guest guest]

,

Seeing as how you are the administrator of your own board, I should

think he would show you more consideration then just anyone who

wrote to him with a complaint.

If you go to Edan, he PROBABLY will be willing to help you although

I had recently written him rearding other matters about that board

and he said his policy is mostly to stay out of things.

But if he DOESN'T help you, then write a private message to me and I

will write to Edan on your behalf.

This board and the board you are talking about have certain

obligations and if we do not fulfill them, Edan has a right to

retract our rights to use the word " Aspergia " in the boards' titles

and to retract our rights to use the " Min " symbol.

Tom

Discrimination is not something I will tolerate. The owner of that

board also said he/she liked me and insulated that her liking-ness

of me was different then other people . What exactly was the

individual's goal? I do not know but this place has annoyed me to

the point that I want to have all my contents removed because of

what some people have done. They make fun of me because of who I am.

On the board it happened and the owner just said I was *iching. This

person is not someone with A.S or is just mean and vicious. However

it changes as in private chat where I was told both people messing

me ill. Also I was told that half the people on her board has

schizoid disorder of some kind.

I think she was talking about those with differences!

I resisted legally all my posts to be removed because of what has

been done to me by mean people. They are my private thoughts in

there database and are mine.

People play to many games.. On that board by that same person I was

called a criminal with cohorts. I want to be completely de-

affiliated with it, if they do not remove my posts I am going to

Aspergia to request through there.

Aspergia no one every treated me like that. Only one person

contacted me with swear words making fun of me and that same person

other then the person saying I needed social classes slandered me

clearly on that board with falsities here recently and I do not even

know him nor have I ever talked to him!

MY writing is my writing and my choice to have where I want. I don't

want it there anymore because of the way I was treated. My content

is my content and I do not want it there because of personal

information's and people telling me on that board that people can

find me from online. This was after my abortion stance.

[Guest guest]

I think I just want all my posts removed from that Aspergia board. The administrator said to everyone I was *iching and a hypocrite.. Which just happened after I criticized her in a complaint publicly. So the pay back was himuation by a governing authority.

I am a fan of Aspergia but not that site. Edan might find it annoying this complain but I just want all my posts removed becuase of the way I was treated. I do not feel comfortable having my private thoughts and feelings in such a place. Its my right because they are my thoughts to either remove them myself or if not allowed to, to have them removed by the authority in which governs the contents. They are my things and I can revoke the usage of my contents any time I want. Much like how Eden can not allow the usage of Aspergia terminology and symbology.environmental1st2003 <no_reply > wrote:

,Seeing as how you are the administrator of your own board, I should think he would show you more consideration then just anyone who wrote to him with a complaint.If you go to Edan, he PROBABLY will be willing to help you although I had recently written him rearding other matters about that board and he said his policy is mostly to stay out of things. But if he DOESN'T help you, then write a private message to me and I will write to Edan on your behalf. This board and the board you are talking about have certain obligations and if we do not fulfill them, Edan has a right to retract our rights to use the word "Aspergia" in the boards' titles and to retract our rights to use the "Min" symbol. Tom Discrimination is not something I will tolerate. The owner of that board also said he/she liked me and insulated that her liking-ness of me was different then other people . What exactly was the individual's goal? I do not know but this place has annoyed me to the point that I want to have all my contents removed because of what some people have done. They make fun of me because of who I am. On the board it happened and the owner just said I was *iching. This person is not someone with A.S or is just mean and vicious. However it changes as in private chat where I was told both people messing me ill. Also I was told that half the people on her board has schizoid disorder of some kind. I think she was talking about those with differences!I resisted legally all my posts to be removed because of what has been done to me by mean people. They are my private thoughts in there database and are mine.People

play to many games.. On that board by that same person I was called a criminal with cohorts. I want to be completely de-affiliated with it, if they do not remove my posts I am going to Aspergia to request through there.Aspergia no one every treated me like that. Only one person contacted me with swear words making fun of me and that same person other then the person saying I needed social classes slandered me clearly on that board with falsities here recently and I do not even know him nor have I ever talked to him!MY writing is my writing and my choice to have where I want. I don't want it there anymore because of the way I was treated. My content is my content and I do not want it there because of personal information's and people telling me on that board that people can find me from online. This was after my abortion stance.

[Guest guest]

I think I just want all my posts removed from that Aspergia board. The administrator said to everyone I was *iching and a hypocrite.. Which just happened after I criticized her in a complaint publicly. So the pay back was himuation by a governing authority.

I am a fan of Aspergia but not that site. Edan might find it annoying this complain but I just want all my posts removed becuase of the way I was treated. I do not feel comfortable having my private thoughts and feelings in such a place. Its my right because they are my thoughts to either remove them myself or if not allowed to, to have them removed by the authority in which governs the contents. They are my things and I can revoke the usage of my contents any time I want. Much like how Eden can not allow the usage of Aspergia terminology and symbology.environmental1st2003 <no_reply > wrote:

,Seeing as how you are the administrator of your own board, I should think he would show you more consideration then just anyone who wrote to him with a complaint.If you go to Edan, he PROBABLY will be willing to help you although I had recently written him rearding other matters about that board and he said his policy is mostly to stay out of things. But if he DOESN'T help you, then write a private message to me and I will write to Edan on your behalf. This board and the board you are talking about have certain obligations and if we do not fulfill them, Edan has a right to retract our rights to use the word "Aspergia" in the boards' titles and to retract our rights to use the "Min" symbol. Tom Discrimination is not something I will tolerate. The owner of that board also said he/she liked me and insulated that her liking-ness of me was different then other people . What exactly was the individual's goal? I do not know but this place has annoyed me to the point that I want to have all my contents removed because of what some people have done. They make fun of me because of who I am. On the board it happened and the owner just said I was *iching. This person is not someone with A.S or is just mean and vicious. However it changes as in private chat where I was told both people messing me ill. Also I was told that half the people on her board has schizoid disorder of some kind. I think she was talking about those with differences!I resisted legally all my posts to be removed because of what has been done to me by mean people. They are my private thoughts in there database and are mine.People

play to many games.. On that board by that same person I was called a criminal with cohorts. I want to be completely de-affiliated with it, if they do not remove my posts I am going to Aspergia to request through there.Aspergia no one every treated me like that. Only one person contacted me with swear words making fun of me and that same person other then the person saying I needed social classes slandered me clearly on that board with falsities here recently and I do not even know him nor have I ever talked to him!MY writing is my writing and my choice to have where I want. I don't want it there anymore because of the way I was treated. My content is my content and I do not want it there because of personal information's and people telling me on that board that people can find me from online. This was after my abortion stance.

[Guest guest]

" I think I just want all my posts removed from that Aspergia board. "

,

You have a right to ask that your posts be removed and, unless I am

mistaken, she is legally obligated to comply since the material

posted is your property from the moment you create it.

" The administrator said to everyone I was *iching and a hypocrite.

Which just happened after I criticized her in a complaint publicly.

So the pay back was himuation by a governing authority. "

Yes, if you recall I was a moderator on that board. I resigned from

it in part due to the administrator's actions towards the board's

members.

" I am a fan of Aspergia but not that site. "

More and more people are coming to feel as you do.

" Edan might find it annoying this complain but I just want all my

posts removed becuase of the way I was treated. I do not feel

comfortable having my private thoughts and feelings in such a place. "

Neither did I, which was why I deleted most of my own posts when i

resigned.

" Its my right because they are my thoughts to either remove them

myself or if not allowed to, to have them removed by the authority

in which governs the contents. They are my things and I can revoke

the usage of my contents any time I want. Much like how Eden can not

allow the usage of Aspergia terminology and symbology. "

You are correct. What you said is also legally correct. If she does

not comply, write Edan. If Edan doesn't wish to get involved,

contact me and I will try to assist you.

Tom

[Guest guest]

" I think I just want all my posts removed from that Aspergia board. "

,

You have a right to ask that your posts be removed and, unless I am

mistaken, she is legally obligated to comply since the material

posted is your property from the moment you create it.

" The administrator said to everyone I was *iching and a hypocrite.

Which just happened after I criticized her in a complaint publicly.

So the pay back was himuation by a governing authority. "

Yes, if you recall I was a moderator on that board. I resigned from

it in part due to the administrator's actions towards the board's

members.

" I am a fan of Aspergia but not that site. "

More and more people are coming to feel as you do.

" Edan might find it annoying this complain but I just want all my

posts removed becuase of the way I was treated. I do not feel

comfortable having my private thoughts and feelings in such a place. "

Neither did I, which was why I deleted most of my own posts when i

resigned.

" Its my right because they are my thoughts to either remove them

myself or if not allowed to, to have them removed by the authority

in which governs the contents. They are my things and I can revoke

the usage of my contents any time I want. Much like how Eden can not

allow the usage of Aspergia terminology and symbology. "

You are correct. What you said is also legally correct. If she does

not comply, write Edan. If Edan doesn't wish to get involved,

contact me and I will try to assist you.

Tom

[Guest guest]

This is the e-mail I just got from her.

",You are free to think I'm wrong as much and as often as you want. There isno legal recourse for having your posts that you knowingly posted in publicon Aspergian Island removed. As I said, I don't have time. I am nowblocking your email address, as I do not wish to receive anymore emails fromyou.-Crucibelle"environmental1st2003 <no_reply > wrote:

"I think I just want all my posts removed from that Aspergia board." ,You have a right to ask that your posts be removed and, unless I am mistaken, she is legally obligated to comply since the material posted is your property from the moment you create it. "The administrator said to everyone I was *iching and a hypocrite. Which just happened after I criticized her in a complaint publicly. So the pay back was himuation by a governing authority."Yes, if you recall I was a moderator on that board. I resigned from it in part due to the administrator's actions towards the board's members."I am a fan of Aspergia but not that site."More and more people are coming to feel as you do."Edan might find it

annoying this complain but I just want all my posts removed becuase of the way I was treated. I do not feel comfortable having my private thoughts and feelings in such a place."Neither did I, which was why I deleted most of my own posts when i resigned. "Its my right because they are my thoughts to either remove them myself or if not allowed to, to have them removed by the authority in which governs the contents. They are my things and I can revoke the usage of my contents any time I want. Much like how Eden can not allow the usage of Aspergia terminology and symbology."You are correct. What you said is also legally correct. If she does not comply, write Edan. If Edan doesn't wish to get involved, contact me and I will try to assist you.Tom

[Guest guest]

,

I'd write Crucibelle for you, but she's blocked my e-mail address too.

Fortunately, I have two friends who are very knowledgeable in

internet law. I have consulted one.

Her credentials: She teaches courses on internet copyright law and

investigates alleged internet copyright infringements.

I will convey her response to you whether you are within your rights

and whether Crucibelle is legally obligated to comply with your

request. Watch your e-mail.

In the mean time, I suggest you inform Edan of your request and

forwar him Crucibelle's response.

Tom

This is the e-mail I just got from her.

" ,

You are free to think I'm wrong as much and as often as you want.

There is no legal recourse for having your posts that you knowingly

posted in public on Aspergian Island removed. As I said, I don't

have time. I am now blocking your email address, as I do not wish to

receive anymore emails from you.

-Crucibelle "

[Guest guest]

I offered to remove them myself and she won't allow it. It's her decision to do it herself and not me do it.

environmental1st2003 <no_reply > wrote:

,I'd write Crucibelle for you, but she's blocked my e-mail address too.:)Fortunately, I have two friends who are very knowledgeable in internet law. I have consulted one. Her credentials: She teaches courses on internet copyright law and investigates alleged internet copyright infringements.I will convey her response to you whether you are within your rights and whether Crucibelle is legally obligated to comply with your request. Watch your e-mail.In the mean time, I suggest you inform Edan of your request and forwar him Crucibelle's response.TomThis is the e-mail I just got from her.",You are free to think I'm wrong as much and as often as you want. There is no

legal recourse for having your posts that you knowingly posted in public on Aspergian Island removed. As I said, I don't have time. I am now blocking your email address, as I do not wish to receive anymore emails from you.-Crucibelle"

[Guest guest]

She just doesn't want a bunch of huge gaps in her board.

She was upset at me for removing my posts too.

It creates a bad impression for new members if they see a bunch of

deleted posts all over.

Tom

This is the e-mail I just got from her.

" ,

You are free to think I'm wrong as much and as often as you want.

There is no legal recourse for having your posts that you knowingly

posted in public on Aspergian Island removed. As I said, I don't

have time. I am now blocking your email address, as I do not wish to

receive anymore emails from you.

-Crucibelle "

[Guest guest]

She is not a proper admin allowing others to slander me with such falsities. Then when I complain about it she says in front of everyone I am a hypocrite and a *iching. Its highly unprofessional, improper and treating members like crap.

I want my post removed and that's my choice because the contents are mine. If I had the option I would delete them myself.

She had effectively stolen my thoughts and expressions from me.

environmental1st2003 <no_reply > wrote:

She just doesn't want a bunch of huge gaps in her board. She was upset at me for removing my posts too. It creates a bad impression for new members if they see a bunch of deleted posts all over. TomThis is the e-mail I just got from her.",You are free to think I'm wrong as much and as often as you want. There is no legal recourse for having your posts that you knowingly posted in public on Aspergian Island removed. As I said, I don't have time. I am now blocking your email address, as I do not wish to receive anymore emails from you.-Crucibelle"

[Guest guest]

, just out of curiosity... since you have met one of our members ;-)

was he very different from your online perception, or about as you had

envisioned?

I am still having problems getting my brain to grasp that the RL Leif is the

same as the online Leif because for 2 years before we finally had our first

Aspie meeting, I had a completely different image of him that won't let

itself be replaced just like that.

Inger

Re: Socializing online/offline

" To me online is just text things, it is not like people in person. "

I am not so sure about that - generally yes - RL interaction is much

more different from online interaction - however meeting somebody off

the boards (from the boards) in RL was a pleasant surprise. We seemed

exactly the same as our online persons - maybe this was just a unique

experience and I do realise that generally online communication is a

world apart from offline, but maybe not always.

For example - people on these boards - if they are as open and honest

as they appear I would then assume they would be no different in RL -

but then I could be wrong and maybe just taking people at face value,

but I suppose getting to know people online then if there is a RL

meeting there may be less awkwardness as one has already done the

preliminary ground work of getting to know them via online - I can

already distinguish between different styles - like personality I

suppose - in seperate individuals posts on these boards.

>

> I do not know why I have no interest in socializing. To me online

is just text things, it is not like people in person. I wonder if it

is a bad thing not to want to socialize but then to wonder means the

desire to have desire. Maybe socializing in person has never really

been a favorite thing of mine unless of my interest. I would not know

where to go to meet people and I do not like getting use to new

people. Even when I had a business for a while I could not really

enjoy people rather working on computer building.

>

>

>

> When I built computers all I had to talk to people about was

computer parts. I cannot do that anymore because I got very

uninterested in social interactions. How to have the desire for

social interaction but I never really had a particular interest in it

prior.

>

>

>

> I really have nothing much to say to people. Most of the time no

one is like me and shares no common interest... I think I feel

trapped by incompatibility of my self as if I was not meant to do

such things. Sort as if I am left out of such things permanently.

>

>

>

> As far as online social interaction I feel that I should eventually

be absent of it. However just do my own things and talk to a select

few.

>

> I do not really want to write.

>

>

>

>

>

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acceptance. Everyone is valued.

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[Guest guest]

,

if you don't like socializing, you can just give it a miss. No one is forcing you to socialize? (Not seeing the point in RL socializing is common among Aspies so that's perfectly normal for your personality type. .)

The plus side of socializing is that you can learn things both about yourself and others - and occasionally even have a good time!

The minus side is that a million things can go wrong and make it awfully annoying/embarassing/boring/overwhelming etc.

Much depends on who one socializes with and how comfortable or stimulated one feels with them.

As for how you are perceived, I think we are all a bit blind to how others see us. That's only natural.

If you want to know how I percieve you, I see you as being a person with integrity, vision and firm ideals to which you adhere strictly once you have decided what you believe. A bit like Tom, but yet with a very different personality. A rather mysterious person, more difficult than most to get a real connection with. A bit confused at times, yet persevering in your various projects. You also have a rather intellectual communication style that is sometimes hard to understand for those of us who don't have the same way of processing thought. And you can be rather blunt sometimes, but hey; that is an Aspie trait so that's not really surprising. :-) Nor are you the only one who is.

A slightly unpolished diamond I think I would sum up my impression of you. (And that is meant as a friendly compliment.)

Inger

Socializing online/offline

Socializing

If it was not for the internet I would not often speak to other people. Still having to reference myelf with a label known as autism\a.s this explains that. Other then on my phone to my parents whom I know especially my mother and not so much in clearity my father I speak seldomly to people.

1. I think online forums are stressful for the most part and have thought them to be so previously. It is why I only speak on a few and most of the time one at a time.

2. I need to find a way to socialize in real-life offline but as I said I do lack the desire. New people are stressful situations and I do not at all share one central interest rather many of introduction but similar. If and when I talk of my interests no one understands it or I have a major difficulty articulating it. It is not as if I am impaired vocally however relying upon visual spatial thought styles. I do not relate to others nor desire to but wonder how to desire to offline.

Perhaps when it comes to socializing I could talk endlessly and likely repeat myself on the same things however said differently many times and for long durations.

Or as I am now where I talk seldomly to others offline. I wonder to myself why I do not desire or somehow require socialization like others I have been of witness too. They seem to thrive on it and personally I find the experience requiring of thought adaptation and personas.

Is it possible to be blind to ones own self-identity in how it is projected to another? As to say not blindness of eyes however of knowing the projected character archetype of oneself in relation to another perceived individual.

I am perhaps over thinking this?Someone on another board told me I needed "social classes" and this subject has been on my mind on and off since. I initially found the statement against me in a social disagreement. I thought it was insulting because it made me feel as if my expressions are impaired and has made me think I am somehow not properly functional expressively.

[Guest guest]

Well I'd chatted to him before seeing him via webcam - I had no pre-

conceptions of what he would look like, but found myself pleasantly

surprised :-)

As for was he different from my online perception - no not really - I

think we had both hinted about parts of our personality that might be

considered a bit more whacky :-) and my hints aren't exactly subtle

I've been told - well as subtle as a sledge hammer anyway :-)

I think I have just had a very fortunate experience - there seemed

very little awkwardness on meeting - although I could not meet at a

busy crowded place. Getting to know one another better in RL has

opened up online communication somewhat and some things that would

not really have been discussed easily before are being discussed a

lot more :-)

Down side is that now missing one another greatly - was missing one

another before - RL does have more to offer than online sometimes and

although I have tactile issues - I just want to hold him and be held,

can't have this over internet :-(

Better go before I get too soppy.

> , just out of curiosity... since you have met one of our

members ;-)

> was he very different from your online perception, or about as you

had

> envisioned?

>

> I am still having problems getting my brain to grasp that the RL

Leif is the

> same as the online Leif because for 2 years before we finally had

our first

> Aspie meeting, I had a completely different image of him that won't

let

> itself be replaced just like that.

>

> Inger

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Awww! Sending you an e-hug, anyway. Hope you can get togehter again soon.

I'm so happy that you two have found each other.

Inger

Re: Socializing online/offline

Well I'd chatted to him before seeing him via webcam - I had no pre-

conceptions of what he would look like, but found myself pleasantly

surprised :-)

As for was he different from my online perception - no not really - I

think we had both hinted about parts of our personality that might be

considered a bit more whacky :-) and my hints aren't exactly subtle

I've been told - well as subtle as a sledge hammer anyway :-)

I think I have just had a very fortunate experience - there seemed

very little awkwardness on meeting - although I could not meet at a

busy crowded place. Getting to know one another better in RL has

opened up online communication somewhat and some things that would

not really have been discussed easily before are being discussed a

lot more :-)

Down side is that now missing one another greatly - was missing one

another before - RL does have more to offer than online sometimes and

although I have tactile issues - I just want to hold him and be held,

can't have this over internet :-(

Better go before I get too soppy.

> , just out of curiosity... since you have met one of our

members ;-)

> was he very different from your online perception, or about as you

had

> envisioned?

>

> I am still having problems getting my brain to grasp that the RL

Leif is the

> same as the online Leif because for 2 years before we finally had

our first

> Aspie meeting, I had a completely different image of him that won't

let

> itself be replaced just like that.

>

> Inger

>

>

>

FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and

acceptance. Everyone is valued.

Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the

folder marked " Other FAM Sites. "

[Guest guest]

,

It's too late for that.

Tom

Better go before I get too soppy.

[Guest guest]

Damn there goes my persona of being cold hearted :-)

>

> Better go before I get too soppy.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think that one went long ago, ... ;-)

Inger

Re: Socializing online/offline

Damn there goes my persona of being cold hearted :-)

>

> Better go before I get too soppy.

>

>

FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and

acceptance. Everyone is valued.

Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the

folder marked " Other FAM Sites. "