Re: Well folks, I'm depressed.

[Guest guest]

Tom,

I can understand this. I've been a bit depressed that it seems that no one seems to have read the stories I posted or looked at the pictures I took and posted. There was also little response about the hurricanes, which is something that concerns me.

I got a passport a few years ago, actually before 9/11. Even then it took a lot of documentation and was kind of frustrating. Still, I got it though. Driver's liscences are the same way these days. What amazes me though is that the bad guys know how to get around all this stuff but the authorities keep piling it on the rest of us. It is easier for illegal immigrants to get on welfare than it is for me to get ID when I was born here. Heck, politicians in some states are evening allowing illegals to compete against natives for state assisted home mortgages! Its completely insane that law abiding folks have to jump through flaming hoops while the bad guys get the Golden Door.

Seeing projects turn out badly is always depressing. I've had that happen plenty of times myself. My biggest concern now is an investment property I bought a few years ago. This was a stand of timber down in Alabama that was near ready to being cut. This investment required a roughly $250,000 mortgage which I have been paying on ever since (though I got a good rate because the banks were competing for my business). Every time one of these hurricanes has come along I have been sweating. Even though the stand is ok, all the downed timber elsewhere is keeping prices low, which is harming my return. This also increases the wait for harvest which exposed it to more danger over time.

I'm probably going to have them harvest next year regardless of the prices since it appears we are in an upward trend for the hurricanes. I guess its time to get back into the commodities investing again, though those oil futures are still probably well out of my price range.

Another concern are the houses and other buildings down there. I'm really going to have to get after them about taking down some of the trees close to the houses and replacing them with smaller thing. Sure it will mess up the looks somewhat, but rather that than have one of those big devil destory the 105 year old buildings. Then again, if the main livable house get knocked down, I'd have it replaced with and exact copy but one with a steel frame and a full basement. Still, I'd rather it not come to that, lots of hassle and MAJOR expense.

Other project have failed as well. A couple of novels I have started never found takers. Many short stories have also gone without being publised. This is partly due to the catch-22 of you have to have been published to get published. It also hurts that many of the established writers are so horrificly prolific that they write under pseudonyms and flood the market. Altogether its very hard for new writers to get into the market.

As for what to do, that's a tough one. I'm on Paxil pretty regularly mostly to handle the anxiety and panic attacks, though it also helps with depression. Temporarily going on meds is an option. That's something I put off for a long time, but it really helped. I'm still on them because my brain doesn't make enough seratonin which is why I am so prone to anxiety. For most people though they only need them for a short time. Still, if that's not something you want to try, that's up to you, and I really don't blame you if you don't go that route.

[Guest guest]

Tom,

I can understand this. I've been a bit depressed that it seems that no one seems to have read the stories I posted or looked at the pictures I took and posted. There was also little response about the hurricanes, which is something that concerns me.

I got a passport a few years ago, actually before 9/11. Even then it took a lot of documentation and was kind of frustrating. Still, I got it though. Driver's liscences are the same way these days. What amazes me though is that the bad guys know how to get around all this stuff but the authorities keep piling it on the rest of us. It is easier for illegal immigrants to get on welfare than it is for me to get ID when I was born here. Heck, politicians in some states are evening allowing illegals to compete against natives for state assisted home mortgages! Its completely insane that law abiding folks have to jump through flaming hoops while the bad guys get the Golden Door.

Seeing projects turn out badly is always depressing. I've had that happen plenty of times myself. My biggest concern now is an investment property I bought a few years ago. This was a stand of timber down in Alabama that was near ready to being cut. This investment required a roughly $250,000 mortgage which I have been paying on ever since (though I got a good rate because the banks were competing for my business). Every time one of these hurricanes has come along I have been sweating. Even though the stand is ok, all the downed timber elsewhere is keeping prices low, which is harming my return. This also increases the wait for harvest which exposed it to more danger over time.

I'm probably going to have them harvest next year regardless of the prices since it appears we are in an upward trend for the hurricanes. I guess its time to get back into the commodities investing again, though those oil futures are still probably well out of my price range.

Another concern are the houses and other buildings down there. I'm really going to have to get after them about taking down some of the trees close to the houses and replacing them with smaller thing. Sure it will mess up the looks somewhat, but rather that than have one of those big devil destory the 105 year old buildings. Then again, if the main livable house get knocked down, I'd have it replaced with and exact copy but one with a steel frame and a full basement. Still, I'd rather it not come to that, lots of hassle and MAJOR expense.

Other project have failed as well. A couple of novels I have started never found takers. Many short stories have also gone without being publised. This is partly due to the catch-22 of you have to have been published to get published. It also hurts that many of the established writers are so horrificly prolific that they write under pseudonyms and flood the market. Altogether its very hard for new writers to get into the market.

As for what to do, that's a tough one. I'm on Paxil pretty regularly mostly to handle the anxiety and panic attacks, though it also helps with depression. Temporarily going on meds is an option. That's something I put off for a long time, but it really helped. I'm still on them because my brain doesn't make enough seratonin which is why I am so prone to anxiety. For most people though they only need them for a short time. Still, if that's not something you want to try, that's up to you, and I really don't blame you if you don't go that route.

[Guest guest]

>

> Do any of you folks feel like you don't fit in ANYWHERE? Doesn't it

> just fill you up with despair? Do any of you ever feel hopeless?

>

> Tom

Yes, I feel that way a lot, particularly recently. I'm looking

for a new job right now, and even though I try not to bring

it up with the people I know, they keep asking " So how's the

job hunt going? " But they don't really want to know. They're

just making maddening small talk.

It's times like this when I feel like I can't talk to anybody and

the only times I feel like I can't relate to most others.

Yes Tom, I know how you feel. I hope your despair passes

soon.

[Guest guest]

>

> Do any of you folks feel like you don't fit in ANYWHERE? Doesn't it

> just fill you up with despair? Do any of you ever feel hopeless?

>

> Tom

Yes, I feel that way a lot, particularly recently. I'm looking

for a new job right now, and even though I try not to bring

it up with the people I know, they keep asking " So how's the

job hunt going? " But they don't really want to know. They're

just making maddening small talk.

It's times like this when I feel like I can't talk to anybody and

the only times I feel like I can't relate to most others.

Yes Tom, I know how you feel. I hope your despair passes

soon.

[Guest guest]

Well, Tom, am not sure this will help ya-because am not sure you view the world this way-....but am almost sure this is the most honest and the most accurate things I could tell ya.

The reason I say am not sure this could help ya is because it has somehting to do with spirituality. Please, do not stop reading just because of this word.

First I think we are all capable to deal with the things life gave us. Sooner or later we will all end up learning how to cope with our weak points, how to live with them, how to strengthen our strong points and how to change the weak ones into advantages.

I do believe we should not expect from PEOPLE the things we need...we should expect it from the UNSEEN...give IT the name you like...and the rest will be given to you.

If you need love, expect it from HIM, and then you will feel happy and fulfilled and then people will turn to you, like that thing that when you run after butterfiles they run from you...but when you transform yourself into a flower...and rests there, simply being, butterflies will come to you.

I think the secret lies is believing the GOOD wins and it is what rules this world. Even-or specially-when we face TEMPORARY failures...as everyhting is temporary.

Grasp the best there is to grasp, the ultimate goodness...and all the rest will be given to you.

Well, if you are despaired by lack of friends or love or support, just remind yourself there are many people here who like you...but sometimes, for some reason, they do not tell you that at the moment you need to hear that...either because they are shy, busy, or they think their words won´t count that much....but they do feel that...and they will tell ya that at the moment you least expect it, or least need it...just like the flowers and the butterfiles.

Wishing you the best,

Marilia

Well folks, I'm depressed.

I've been in a deteriorating depression for about a month now and it seems to be getting worse instead of better. No matter what I do to curb it, it doesn't work. Many of my recent projects have turned out to be a failure. As much as I have tried to support everyone here, I myself feel like I am incapable of getting the support I need even though many of you have often provided it.I don't know what to do anymore. Counseling hasn't helped.I think lots of this has to do with being an Aspie and getting supressed by other non-Aspie elements of society. Some has to do with loneliness. Most has to do with injustice. I have surfed the net for more than three years and in that time I've never TRULY felt a perfect lock and understanding with anyone I've met except at the very beginning when it seemed like everyone who posted to the message board I knew was like me, and those people were evenetually goaded off the net by disruptive elements.Inger and I are almost the same in lots of ways, but she is unavailable right now and I'd rather not dump on her.Do any of you folks feel like you don't fit in ANYWHERE? Doesn't it just fill you up with despair? Do any of you ever feel hopeless?Tom

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[Guest guest]

Well, Tom, am not sure this will help ya-because am not sure you view the world this way-....but am almost sure this is the most honest and the most accurate things I could tell ya.

The reason I say am not sure this could help ya is because it has somehting to do with spirituality. Please, do not stop reading just because of this word.

First I think we are all capable to deal with the things life gave us. Sooner or later we will all end up learning how to cope with our weak points, how to live with them, how to strengthen our strong points and how to change the weak ones into advantages.

I do believe we should not expect from PEOPLE the things we need...we should expect it from the UNSEEN...give IT the name you like...and the rest will be given to you.

If you need love, expect it from HIM, and then you will feel happy and fulfilled and then people will turn to you, like that thing that when you run after butterfiles they run from you...but when you transform yourself into a flower...and rests there, simply being, butterflies will come to you.

I think the secret lies is believing the GOOD wins and it is what rules this world. Even-or specially-when we face TEMPORARY failures...as everyhting is temporary.

Grasp the best there is to grasp, the ultimate goodness...and all the rest will be given to you.

Well, if you are despaired by lack of friends or love or support, just remind yourself there are many people here who like you...but sometimes, for some reason, they do not tell you that at the moment you need to hear that...either because they are shy, busy, or they think their words won´t count that much....but they do feel that...and they will tell ya that at the moment you least expect it, or least need it...just like the flowers and the butterfiles.

Wishing you the best,

Marilia

Well folks, I'm depressed.

I've been in a deteriorating depression for about a month now and it seems to be getting worse instead of better. No matter what I do to curb it, it doesn't work. Many of my recent projects have turned out to be a failure. As much as I have tried to support everyone here, I myself feel like I am incapable of getting the support I need even though many of you have often provided it.I don't know what to do anymore. Counseling hasn't helped.I think lots of this has to do with being an Aspie and getting supressed by other non-Aspie elements of society. Some has to do with loneliness. Most has to do with injustice. I have surfed the net for more than three years and in that time I've never TRULY felt a perfect lock and understanding with anyone I've met except at the very beginning when it seemed like everyone who posted to the message board I knew was like me, and those people were evenetually goaded off the net by disruptive elements.Inger and I are almost the same in lots of ways, but she is unavailable right now and I'd rather not dump on her.Do any of you folks feel like you don't fit in ANYWHERE? Doesn't it just fill you up with despair? Do any of you ever feel hopeless?Tom

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So sorry for you Tom... The depression you feel might be a need of a

real warm hug from a love one in the real life...

I cannot understand how you can manage living so far from Inger! I

really think a couple should meet up regulary if they don't live

together. Then you can hug the warm body from your love one, and

recieve a hug and kiss back, when you need it the most.

I often have a hard time keeping the balance of being social and

being alone with my husband, and sometime I wish we could be only

partners living close by, but then I love to have a man standing up

for his family and home... To live together is nice too you know ;-)

I have a lot of love to give... so here is some of it to you:

******************** I Love you a lot Tom ********************

But... if you are in the mood of " hating women " right now, here's

something for you to do:

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/flash/bubblegirl.html

Tom... keep the spirit up!!!

//Helen

[Guest guest]

So sorry for you Tom... The depression you feel might be a need of a

real warm hug from a love one in the real life...

I cannot understand how you can manage living so far from Inger! I

really think a couple should meet up regulary if they don't live

together. Then you can hug the warm body from your love one, and

recieve a hug and kiss back, when you need it the most.

I often have a hard time keeping the balance of being social and

being alone with my husband, and sometime I wish we could be only

partners living close by, but then I love to have a man standing up

for his family and home... To live together is nice too you know ;-)

I have a lot of love to give... so here is some of it to you:

******************** I Love you a lot Tom ********************

But... if you are in the mood of " hating women " right now, here's

something for you to do:

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/flash/bubblegirl.html

Tom... keep the spirit up!!!

//Helen

[Guest guest]

This is how I am feeling now.

Thanks for sharing. I do hope the job hunt goes well. I have tried to

make a number of adjustments in my life, and I have to admit that

these have gone well, including switching jobs. But I am still

depressed.

Tom

It's times like this when I feel like I can't talk to anybody and

the only times I feel like I can't relate to most others.

[Guest guest]

This is how I am feeling now.

Thanks for sharing. I do hope the job hunt goes well. I have tried to

make a number of adjustments in my life, and I have to admit that

these have gone well, including switching jobs. But I am still

depressed.

Tom

It's times like this when I feel like I can't talk to anybody and

the only times I feel like I can't relate to most others.

[Guest guest]

Marilia,

I have found that NOT to be the case. I set up these forums and the

majority of the people who are here are the ones I invited.

Realistically, the discriminating Aspie will not be able to tell one

forum from another, and I very much doubt that they came here

because they had a " feeling " about it.

But thanks Marilia.

Tom

If you need love, expect it from HIM, and then you will feel happy

and fulfilled and then people will turn to you, like that thing that

when you run after butterfiles they run from you...but when you

transform yourself into a flower...and rests there, simply being,

butterflies will come to you.

[Guest guest]

Marilia,

I have found that NOT to be the case. I set up these forums and the

majority of the people who are here are the ones I invited.

Realistically, the discriminating Aspie will not be able to tell one

forum from another, and I very much doubt that they came here

because they had a " feeling " about it.

But thanks Marilia.

Tom

If you need love, expect it from HIM, and then you will feel happy

and fulfilled and then people will turn to you, like that thing that

when you run after butterfiles they run from you...but when you

transform yourself into a flower...and rests there, simply being,

butterflies will come to you.

[Guest guest]

Astrid,

It's hard. rcently I picked up a passport application and the sheer

volume of back-up docs I need to acquire at this point is

overwhelming.

Nothing is ever simple. You cannot just hop on a plane and fly

somewhere. They are trying to make it a law so that you have to get a

passport to go into Canada now and they won't let you back into the US

unless you have one.

I don't belive in borders, even though the rest of society does.

Except for the oceans that separate the continents, there are no real

boards in the world as far as nature is concerned. But someone marks a

line across the ground (figuratively speaking) and now you've got to

go through a whole process to take one step over it.

I think it's ridiculous.

Tom

I cannot understand how you can manage living so far from Inger! I

really think a couple should meet up regulary if they don't live

together. Then you can hug the warm body from your love one, and

recieve a hug and kiss back, when you need it the most.

[Guest guest]

Astrid,

It's hard. rcently I picked up a passport application and the sheer

volume of back-up docs I need to acquire at this point is

overwhelming.

Nothing is ever simple. You cannot just hop on a plane and fly

somewhere. They are trying to make it a law so that you have to get a

passport to go into Canada now and they won't let you back into the US

unless you have one.

I don't belive in borders, even though the rest of society does.

Except for the oceans that separate the continents, there are no real

boards in the world as far as nature is concerned. But someone marks a

line across the ground (figuratively speaking) and now you've got to

go through a whole process to take one step over it.

I think it's ridiculous.

Tom

I cannot understand how you can manage living so far from Inger! I

really think a couple should meet up regulary if they don't live

together. Then you can hug the warm body from your love one, and

recieve a hug and kiss back, when you need it the most.

[Guest guest]

Tom, I did not understand your reply.

You

Marilia,I have found that NOT to be the case.

Me

What you do not find to be the case?

You

I set up these forums and the majority of the people who are here are the ones I invited.

Me

Well, I was not invited. What didi you mean when you said the majority were invited?

youRealistically, the discriminating Aspie will not be able to tell one forum from another, and I very much doubt that they came here because they had a "feeling" about it.

Me

Did not get what you wanted to express with that, either.

YouBut thanks Marilia.Tom

Me

you are welcome.

MariliaIf you need love, expect it from HIM, and then you will feel happy and fulfilled and then people will turn to you, like that thing that when you run after butterfiles they run from you...but when you transform yourself into a flower...and rests there, simply being, butterflies will come to you.

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[Guest guest]

Tom, I did not understand your reply.

You

Marilia,I have found that NOT to be the case.

Me

What you do not find to be the case?

You

I set up these forums and the majority of the people who are here are the ones I invited.

Me

Well, I was not invited. What didi you mean when you said the majority were invited?

youRealistically, the discriminating Aspie will not be able to tell one forum from another, and I very much doubt that they came here because they had a "feeling" about it.

Me

Did not get what you wanted to express with that, either.

YouBut thanks Marilia.Tom

Me

you are welcome.

MariliaIf you need love, expect it from HIM, and then you will feel happy and fulfilled and then people will turn to you, like that thing that when you run after butterfiles they run from you...but when you transform yourself into a flower...and rests there, simply being, butterflies will come to you.

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Tom,

You sound just like me. If I go for documentation and get a paddock full of hurdles it will be cause in my place for a two hour rant about what a pile of cr_p the authourities require.

I can say in the passport app' process just set aside a day or two to accumulate the necessaries and work through it. At least once youve got it it should be current for a couple of years. Just a while ago i had to deal with morons in the travel agent and had a meltdown in their office resulting in brochures exploding across the office before they realised their errors. You can be assured though once you have fullfilled their petty requirements the results will be worthwhileEvan

environmental1st2003 <no_reply > wrote:

Astrid,It's hard. rcently I picked up a passport application and the sheer volume of back-up docs I need to acquire at this point is overwhelming. Nothing is ever simple. You cannot just hop on a plane and fly somewhere. They are trying to make it a law so that you have to get a passport to go into Canada now and they won't let you back into the US unless you have one.I don't belive in borders, even though the rest of society does. Except for the oceans that separate the continents, there are no real boards in the world as far as nature is concerned. But someone marks a line across the ground (figuratively speaking) and now you've got to go through a whole process to take one step over it. I think it's ridiculous.Tom

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[Guest guest]

Tom,

You sound just like me. If I go for documentation and get a paddock full of hurdles it will be cause in my place for a two hour rant about what a pile of cr_p the authourities require.

I can say in the passport app' process just set aside a day or two to accumulate the necessaries and work through it. At least once youve got it it should be current for a couple of years. Just a while ago i had to deal with morons in the travel agent and had a meltdown in their office resulting in brochures exploding across the office before they realised their errors. You can be assured though once you have fullfilled their petty requirements the results will be worthwhileEvan

environmental1st2003 <no_reply > wrote:

Astrid,It's hard. rcently I picked up a passport application and the sheer volume of back-up docs I need to acquire at this point is overwhelming. Nothing is ever simple. You cannot just hop on a plane and fly somewhere. They are trying to make it a law so that you have to get a passport to go into Canada now and they won't let you back into the US unless you have one.I don't belive in borders, even though the rest of society does. Except for the oceans that separate the continents, there are no real boards in the world as far as nature is concerned. But someone marks a line across the ground (figuratively speaking) and now you've got to go through a whole process to take one step over it. I think it's ridiculous.Tom

Start your day with - make it your home page

[Guest guest]

Inger,

Thanks.

We're still getting stories about Katrina and it is looking bad. However, it might not be as bad as it could have been. Still, I'm sure it will take days to weeks before the full story emerges. I think my place in Alabama faired OK. They still had power and phones early this afternoon but the worst had not hit them yet. I should get another call an update tomorrow.

That's interesting about the robbery. Very daring to pull something like that out in the open. We haven't had much trouble like that around here for a while. Every now and then there will be a bankrobbery, but not that often.

The most exciting thing to happen to me was today. We were leaving the parking spot at a busy convinience store and this jerk in a big van came barreling by and didn't even try to stop. Bloody near hit us. He then forced his way into the exit line by almost ramming another car that clearly had the right of way. It could have been more interesting had he noticed me giving him the "Roman Salute" but he wasn't looking at anything but straight ahead. Lots of that goes on over here. Many rude and crazy drivers. And my mother wonders why I refuse to drive unless I absolutely have to.

[Guest guest]

Tom, I can relate. I get like that, to the point where my pick me up

music doesn't even make me smile. Usually trying to change the mood

consciously doesn't work in those circumstances, I just have to ride

it out.

Something I was told years ago in a crisis helps me through those

times. A king asked for a ring bearing an inscription that would make

him happy when he was sad, and sad when he was happy. The ringmaker

engraved: " This too will pass. "

This, too will pass.

> I've been in a deteriorating depression for about a month now and it

> seems to be getting worse instead of better.

>

> No matter what I do to curb it, it doesn't work. Many of my recent

> projects have turned out to be a failure.

>

> As much as I have tried to support everyone here, I myself feel like

> I am incapable of getting the support I need even though many of you

> have often provided it.

>

> I don't know what to do anymore. Counseling hasn't helped.

>

> I think lots of this has to do with being an Aspie and getting

> supressed by other non-Aspie elements of society. Some has to do

> with loneliness. Most has to do with injustice.

>

> I have surfed the net for more than three years and in that time

> I've never TRULY felt a perfect lock and understanding with anyone

> I've met except at the very beginning when it seemed like everyone

> who posted to the message board I knew was like me, and those people

> were evenetually goaded off the net by disruptive elements.

>

> Inger and I are almost the same in lots of ways, but she is

> unavailable right now and I'd rather not dump on her.

>

> Do any of you folks feel like you don't fit in ANYWHERE? Doesn't it

> just fill you up with despair? Do any of you ever feel hopeless?

>

> Tom

[Guest guest]

Tom, I can relate. I get like that, to the point where my pick me up

music doesn't even make me smile. Usually trying to change the mood

consciously doesn't work in those circumstances, I just have to ride

it out.

Something I was told years ago in a crisis helps me through those

times. A king asked for a ring bearing an inscription that would make

him happy when he was sad, and sad when he was happy. The ringmaker

engraved: " This too will pass. "

This, too will pass.

> I've been in a deteriorating depression for about a month now and it

> seems to be getting worse instead of better.

>

> No matter what I do to curb it, it doesn't work. Many of my recent

> projects have turned out to be a failure.

>

> As much as I have tried to support everyone here, I myself feel like

> I am incapable of getting the support I need even though many of you

> have often provided it.

>

> I don't know what to do anymore. Counseling hasn't helped.

>

> I think lots of this has to do with being an Aspie and getting

> supressed by other non-Aspie elements of society. Some has to do

> with loneliness. Most has to do with injustice.

>

> I have surfed the net for more than three years and in that time

> I've never TRULY felt a perfect lock and understanding with anyone

> I've met except at the very beginning when it seemed like everyone

> who posted to the message board I knew was like me, and those people

> were evenetually goaded off the net by disruptive elements.

>

> Inger and I are almost the same in lots of ways, but she is

> unavailable right now and I'd rather not dump on her.

>

> Do any of you folks feel like you don't fit in ANYWHERE? Doesn't it

> just fill you up with despair? Do any of you ever feel hopeless?

>

> Tom

[Guest guest]

I liked that, Joe.

Lida

Joe wrote:Tom, I can relate. I get like that, to the point where my pick me upmusic doesn't even make me smile. Usually trying to change the moodconsciously doesn't work in those circumstances, I just have to rideit out. Something I was told years ago in a crisis helps me through thosetimes. A king asked for a ring bearing an inscription that would makehim happy when he was sad, and sad when he was happy. The ringmakerengraved: "This too will pass."This, too will pass.> I've been in a deteriorating depression for about a month now and it > seems to be getting worse instead of better. > > No matter what I do to curb it, it doesn't work. Many of my recent > projects have turned out to be a failure. > > As much as I have tried to support everyone here, I myself feel like > I am incapable of getting the support I need even though many of you > have often provided it.> > I don't know what to do anymore. Counseling hasn't helped.> > I think lots of this has to do with being an Aspie and getting > supressed by other non-Aspie elements of society. Some has to do > with loneliness. Most has to do with injustice. > > I have surfed the net for more than three years and in that time > I've never TRULY felt a perfect lock and understanding with anyone > I've met except at the very beginning when it seemed like everyone > who posted to the message board I knew was like me, and those people > were evenetually goaded off the net by disruptive elements.> > Inger and I are almost the same in lots of ways, but she is > unavailable right now and I'd rather not dump on her.> > Do any of you folks feel like you don't fit in ANYWHERE? Doesn't it > just fill you up with despair? Do any of you ever feel hopeless?> > Tom

[Guest guest]

I liked that, Joe.

Lida

Joe wrote:Tom, I can relate. I get like that, to the point where my pick me upmusic doesn't even make me smile. Usually trying to change the moodconsciously doesn't work in those circumstances, I just have to rideit out. Something I was told years ago in a crisis helps me through thosetimes. A king asked for a ring bearing an inscription that would makehim happy when he was sad, and sad when he was happy. The ringmakerengraved: "This too will pass."This, too will pass.> I've been in a deteriorating depression for about a month now and it > seems to be getting worse instead of better. > > No matter what I do to curb it, it doesn't work. Many of my recent > projects have turned out to be a failure. > > As much as I have tried to support everyone here, I myself feel like > I am incapable of getting the support I need even though many of you > have often provided it.> > I don't know what to do anymore. Counseling hasn't helped.> > I think lots of this has to do with being an Aspie and getting > supressed by other non-Aspie elements of society. Some has to do > with loneliness. Most has to do with injustice. > > I have surfed the net for more than three years and in that time > I've never TRULY felt a perfect lock and understanding with anyone > I've met except at the very beginning when it seemed like everyone > who posted to the message board I knew was like me, and those people > were evenetually goaded off the net by disruptive elements.> > Inger and I are almost the same in lots of ways, but she is > unavailable right now and I'd rather not dump on her.> > Do any of you folks feel like you don't fit in ANYWHERE? Doesn't it > just fill you up with despair? Do any of you ever feel hopeless?> > Tom

[Guest guest]

wrote:

> I can understand this. I've been a bit depressed that it seems that no one

seems to have read the stories I posted or looked at the pictures I took and

posted. There was also little response about the hurricanes, which is

something

that concerns me.

That must feel very disappointing. You're such a great photographer and

writer.

I'm afraid though that I'm too busy these days and only have time to read

and reply to a couple of messages per day and rarely time to read or look at

anything else.

Hurricanes are not a special interest of mine, but I saw some pictures from

New Orleans on TV.

Inger - just home after being stuck in traffic all afternoon after some

robbers blew up a money transport van and set fire to 8 other cars right on

my way to mom's.

[Guest guest]

Me too. :-)

Inger

Re: Re: Well folks, I'm depressed.

I liked that, Joe.

Lida

Joe wrote:

Tom, I can relate. I get like that, to the point where my pick me up

music doesn't even make me smile. Usually trying to change the mood

consciously doesn't work in those circumstances, I just have to ride

it out.

Something I was told years ago in a crisis helps me through those

times. A king asked for a ring bearing an inscription that would make

him happy when he was sad, and sad when he was happy. The ringmaker

engraved: " This too will pass. "

This, too will pass.

> I've been in a deteriorating depression for about a month now and it

> seems to be getting worse instead of better.

>

> No matter what I do to curb it, it doesn't work. Many of my recent

> projects have turned out to be a failure.

>

> As much as I have tried to support everyone here, I myself feel like

> I am incapable of getting the support I need even though many of you

> have often provided it.

>

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