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I go to college. Im working on a Bachlers in General Studies right now. Im a junior. Lornanatronpc <globalmerchantorg@...> wrote:

No I do not recall..

Are you going to college?

I used to get sunburn all the time. Here is has been cooler as well.girlofthehighlands <lorna1224@...> wrote:

Hi nathan im fine how are you. dont know if you rememebr me. Ive been ready for school AGAIN lol and just trying to heal a sunburn. It been cooler the last three days. Lornanatronpc <globalmerchantorg@...> wrote:

Start your day with - make it your home page

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I go to college. Im working on a Bachlers in General Studies right now. Im a junior. Lornanatronpc <globalmerchantorg@...> wrote:

No I do not recall..

Are you going to college?

I used to get sunburn all the time. Here is has been cooler as well.girlofthehighlands <lorna1224@...> wrote:

Hi nathan im fine how are you. dont know if you rememebr me. Ive been ready for school AGAIN lol and just trying to heal a sunburn. It been cooler the last three days. Lornanatronpc <globalmerchantorg@...> wrote:

Start your day with - make it your home page

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That is good.

I am supposed to go just for my own interests and be able to sit in to listen and visit the library.

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I go to college. Im working on a Bachlers in General Studies right now. Im a junior. Lorna

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Ugh, I hate this question. I don't know if it's just Seattle, but

everywhere I go, Starbucks, bookstores, supermarkets. I have to say

hello to the cashier, hello to the bagger and anyone else who may be

passing by to " help " me... You have to answer 20 questions : " Do you

have a card? Are you aware of the membership? Did you know that you

can get a large for 1 dollar more? Etc. " Then, as I'm paying and

waiting for the transaction to finish, there's that 30 second lapse

where the card is being approved...and the cashier says, " so, how's

your day going? "

Was going fine before the 20 questions!

And I use to complain that the cashiers in Philadelphia were too

rude...can't win. ;)

I've learned to say short answers and look away hoping that they'll

get the hint, and try to be polite, since they are only doing their

job and being friendly. But I did snap this morning at Starbucks since

I had just woken up and was not so inhibited. The barista asked me if

I wanted to upgrade to a Venti for a dollar more and I barked " NO! " . I

think I scared her. The cashier put on that uber friendly voice which

meant " let's get this jerk out of here. " I did apologize for snapping.

I just want to get in and out, without 20 questions. They aren't paid

to be my friend, they are paid to be courteous. There's a difference.

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I've been told that handshakes are a gesture, but also establishes

distance, as opposed to hugging or more intimate greetings. Also to

establish dominance and heirarchy by the strenght of the grip.

> >Nathon: " It's like shaking hands in business. Why do such a thing? "

>

> Its purpose is to demonstrate good will, and possibly originated as a

> gesture showing that the hand holds no weapon.

> Rainbow

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A lot of these questions are company policy: they have to ask them. Consider it like a commerical at the checkout counter. It is annoying, but it is probably just as annoying to the people asking the questions. Imagine having to ask the same set of questions 100 or more times per day, each time worry that the person will snap at you for asking.

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A lot of these questions are company policy: they have to ask them. Consider it like a commerical at the checkout counter. It is annoying, but it is probably just as annoying to the people asking the questions. Imagine having to ask the same set of questions 100 or more times per day, each time worry that the person will snap at you for asking.

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This topic, 'how are you', reminds me of a joke I heard when I was younger:

"that person is such a bore, but such a bore, that when you ask her how she is she does answer it!

Usually a 'fine' is excpected as a repply and then, depending on the flow of the conversation, you can then detail your life better.

In fact, although totally out of sense, the people that usually answers it literally talks about their problems, or that they are tired...the ones that talk about good things are not considered a bore, even if they do answer...usually quickly.

This reminds me of a habit I find cool in muslims comunities, when they host someone who is nice, they greet them saying: you bring LIGHT to this home.

I think most people prefver, or like, etc, people who can bring light to theri lives.

I think people who say nice things or who show good energies are welcome wherever...people usually do not like to talk about problems or sad stuff. Unless they do know each other well and the other person has a previous idea on the life of the other person.

I think the habit of shaking hands, etc, depends on the habit of the place. When I was in the States people at same age I was did not shake hands...shaking hands was rather for more formal situations, or adults. They simply said hi...at a distance. No body contact. In the country I live when we meet friends or are introduced to people, unless the situation is very formal, we usually kiss women on the face, and we kiss guys on the face too, but guys only kiss women on the face, they do not kiss other guys faces, they shake hands or embrance them lightly and tap on the back, just to show friendship:when they are close. Otherwise, in formal cases, you will only shake hands.

In Rio we kiss both cheeks, in Sao o you kiss three times, once in each cheek...in Ecuador just one single kiss. Haha, by the way people kiss you kind of know where they are from.

Those things are very cultural...they are interesting. We hosted a guy from Norway three years ago, and when he came back with his family he run and hugged my husband...which was very apropriate in his situation, as he knows we show affection, specially he was a boy, who has been part of our family, so like a son to my husband. But then his norwegian father saw this and thought it was expected from him to do the same, so he ran to my husband and hugged him the same way. Well, my husband felt a bit uneasy but he understood the norwegian simply did not know how we were, hehe, and simply copied his son. Well, after a few days here he realized men only shake hands unless they are very close, family members, etc, and then they give a light embrance and a few taps on the back.

But that too depends...sometimes it is best to simply do to one person that happens to be the only one that is different from the group, the same treatment. Like, last week I entered a room and I knew everybody except one man who was with them...and I kissed everybody in the face...so, when I greeted this strange man who was in the group I felt like it would be nicer if I acted with him the same way I acted with the rest, so he would not feel excluded....and then I kissed him in the cheek too.

The very first time I met my husband it was same situation: he was at my friends house, and I entered and kissed everybody there...so, when I was introduced to him even though he was a stranger, I kissed him as well. He loved that. Specially this town I used to live women were much more formal with men than women from here, Rio, his city...so, he had feeling kind of left out, not so welll apreciated by them as they were too formal...and when one is used to less formal people you kind of think the formal ones did not like you that much...but it is only because they are formal.

I think it depends also on the city you are. I found everyone in NYCity very nice, but people from Washington DC will say that if you say 'Good Morning' to someone in NY City they will ask you madly: WHAT DO YOU MEAN? haha

Sometimes I am lazy to kiss people when I see a big crowd in a room...I simply hate entering crowded rooms...so, when I know the people I simply throw them kisses with my lips at a distance and say hi and that is it.

Marilia

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Joe,

I know what you mean. I wish I could answer how I WANT to answer.

Thus a trip to Burger King would sound something like this.

Me: Give me a number one with a coke for here.

Cashier: Large sized?

Me: You've got medium sized on the display. If I wanted large, I'd

ask for it. What are you? Stupid?

Cashier: With cheese?

Me: If I wanted cheese I would ask for it. There are people who are

allergic to milk products. What are you trying to do? Kill off

your customer base? I wanted a number one with a coke for here. If

you had any brains whatsoever, you wouldn't have to ask any of these

stupid questions.

Cashier: What to drink with that?

Me: You mean " What would you like to drink with that? " Use proper

English. Do you recall, half and hour ago, when I began ordering

that I asked for a number one with a coke for here? What part of

that 7 word sentence do you not understand? You are not qualified

enough for this job, I don't think.

Cashier: Would you like a pie for a only dollar extra?

Me: How about you GIVE me a dollar for every time you ask a stupid

question? I did not ask for it, therefore I don't want it.

Additionally, those pies taste like crap. If anything, customers

ought to pay you guys to throw those things out.

Cashier: Anything else?

Me: May I suggest that you do what waitresses and waiters do and

write down what I say when I order? I asked for a number one with a

coke for here. This was told to you first thing, but obviously you

do not remember. I didn't want the pie, what makes you think I would

want anything else?

Cashier: For here?

Me: Have you had the thickness of your skull measured lately? I

speak but the words aren't getting through to your brain. Perhaps if

you cut off your hair that will help. In ancient times, cave people

used to drill holes in their heads to reduce pain from headaches.

Perhaps we could try this method with you in order for my words to

get to your brains faster.

For here. In house. Para aqui. Shall I get dictionaries in other

languages so that you can be absolutely sure that I want it for

here? Incidently, I believe you may be obsessive compulsive with all

these questions. I can recommend a good shrink for you.

Etc...

Tom

Ugh, I hate this question. I don't know if it's just Seattle, but

everywhere I go, Starbucks, bookstores, supermarkets. I have to say

hello to the cashier, hello to the bagger and anyone else who may be

passing by to " help " me... You have to answer 20 questions : " Do you

have a card? Are you aware of the membership? Did you know that you

can get a large for 1 dollar more? Etc. " Then, as I'm paying and

waiting for the transaction to finish, there's that 30 second lapse

where the card is being approved...and the cashier says, " so, how's

your day going? "

Was going fine before the 20 questions!

And I use to complain that the cashiers in Philadelphia were too

rude...can't win. ;)

I've learned to say short answers and look away hoping that they'll

get the hint, and try to be polite, since they are only doing their

job and being friendly. But I did snap this morning at Starbucks

since

I had just woken up and was not so inhibited. The barista asked me if

I wanted to upgrade to a Venti for a dollar more and I barked " NO! " .

I

think I scared her. The cashier put on that uber friendly voice which

meant " let's get this jerk out of here. " I did apologize for

snapping.

I just want to get in and out, without 20 questions. They aren't paid

to be my friend, they are paid to be courteous. There's a difference.

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Yes, . I know that. My sister used to work at the local

Mcs when she was in high school.

I understand that some people NEED those jobs, which is the only

reason I am polite with them.

But there is also something called principle.

If you DON'T need the job, I think it would be great to tell the

manager how stupid and annoying it is to bombard customers with

questions that will only cause them to hate and resent the restaurant.

Tom

A lot of these questions are company policy: they have to ask them.

Consider it like a commerical at the checkout counter. It is annoying,

but it is probably just as annoying to the people asking the

questions. Imagine having to ask the same set of questions 100 or more

times per day, each time worry that the person will snap at you for

asking.

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Yes, . I know that. My sister used to work at the local

Mcs when she was in high school.

I understand that some people NEED those jobs, which is the only

reason I am polite with them.

But there is also something called principle.

If you DON'T need the job, I think it would be great to tell the

manager how stupid and annoying it is to bombard customers with

questions that will only cause them to hate and resent the restaurant.

Tom

A lot of these questions are company policy: they have to ask them.

Consider it like a commerical at the checkout counter. It is annoying,

but it is probably just as annoying to the people asking the

questions. Imagine having to ask the same set of questions 100 or more

times per day, each time worry that the person will snap at you for

asking.

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Today I was helping my mother down at school. I went down to the store room to get some more chairs for the room when one of the teachers down that hall starts saying "Hello?" because she could hear someone moving around. (It should be pointed out that this was after hours and most of the people were gone.) It is not my nature to make a lot of noise so I walked down the hall rather than answer verbally. She came out of her room just about the same time I reached it.

She jumped about a foot and said I about scared her to death. I simply said "sorry, must be the Indian blood in the family". This was actually the second time in three days that this happened, though the first time was in the other building.

My mother gets annoyed with how quiet I am too. I can just walk normally around the house and she doesn't hear me moving. Sometimes I can swear she has to have heard me but she'll turn around and there I am in the room and she'll startle.

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Laugh Snort!environmental1st2003 <no_reply > wrote:

Joe,I know what you mean. I wish I could answer how I WANT to answer. Thus a trip to Burger King would sound something like this.Me: Give me a number one with a coke for here.Cashier: Large sized?Me: You've got medium sized on the display. If I wanted large, I'd ask for it. What are you? Stupid?Cashier: With cheese?Me: If I wanted cheese I would ask for it. There are people who are allergic to milk products. What are you trying to do? Kill off your customer base? I wanted a number one with a coke for here. If you had any brains whatsoever, you wouldn't have to ask any of these stupid questions.Cashier: What to drink with that?Me: You mean "What would you like to drink with that?" Use proper English. Do you recall, half and hour ago, when I began

ordering that I asked for a number one with a coke for here? What part of that 7 word sentence do you not understand? You are not qualified enough for this job, I don't think. Cashier: Would you like a pie for a only dollar extra?Me: How about you GIVE me a dollar for every time you ask a stupid question? I did not ask for it, therefore I don't want it. Additionally, those pies taste like crap. If anything, customers ought to pay you guys to throw those things out.Cashier: Anything else?Me: May I suggest that you do what waitresses and waiters do and write down what I say when I order? I asked for a number one with a coke for here. This was told to you first thing, but obviously you do not remember. I didn't want the pie, what makes you think I would want anything else? Cashier: For here?Me: Have you had the thickness of your skull measured lately? I speak but the words

aren't getting through to your brain. Perhaps if you cut off your hair that will help. In ancient times, cave people used to drill holes in their heads to reduce pain from headaches. Perhaps we could try this method with you in order for my words to get to your brains faster.For here. In house. Para aqui. Shall I get dictionaries in other languages so that you can be absolutely sure that I want it for here? Incidently, I believe you may be obsessive compulsive with all these questions. I can recommend a good shrink for you. Etc...Tom

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Thank you, TOM! My friend thinks I am nuts when I relate these incidents. We

shopped at

the same grocery store, but we may as well have been in different countries. I

do the same

thing, I preplan my words exactly to minimize conversation. I say " blah blah

with blah blah

with no blah. " And they ALWAYS ask me if I want the blah when I said No blah.

I say the same thing, If I wanted it I would have asked for it. I asked for a

tall, not a large.

I can't finish a large. I don't care if it's ONLY a dollar more, besides, I'm

not rich. And I top

it off with, " Are you questioning my judgement? "

They don't like that one very much...

>

> Ugh, I hate this question. I don't know if it's just Seattle, but

> everywhere I go, Starbucks, bookstores, supermarkets. I have to say

> hello to the cashier, hello to the bagger and anyone else who may be

> passing by to " help " me... You have to answer 20 questions : " Do you

> have a card? Are you aware of the membership? Did you know that you

> can get a large for 1 dollar more? Etc. " Then, as I'm paying and

> waiting for the transaction to finish, there's that 30 second lapse

> where the card is being approved...and the cashier says, " so, how's

> your day going? "

>

> Was going fine before the 20 questions!

>

> And I use to complain that the cashiers in Philadelphia were too

> rude...can't win. ;)

>

> I've learned to say short answers and look away hoping that they'll

> get the hint, and try to be polite, since they are only doing their

> job and being friendly. But I did snap this morning at Starbucks

> since

> I had just woken up and was not so inhibited. The barista asked me if

> I wanted to upgrade to a Venti for a dollar more and I barked " NO! " .

> I

> think I scared her. The cashier put on that uber friendly voice which

> meant " let's get this jerk out of here. " I did apologize for

> snapping.

> I just want to get in and out, without 20 questions. They aren't paid

> to be my friend, they are paid to be courteous. There's a difference.

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You know, though, I've recently realized that I do the same to my computer.

When I go to

delete, it asks " are you sure you want to delete? " Then I yell in my mind " I hit

the delete

key, didn't I? " . Course, If I didn't want to delete, and it didn't ask, I'd be

upset then as well.

Man, no winning for losing with us!

>

> Ugh, I hate this question. I don't know if it's just Seattle, but

> everywhere I go, Starbucks, bookstores, supermarkets. I have to say

> hello to the cashier, hello to the bagger and anyone else who may be

> passing by to " help " me... You have to answer 20 questions : " Do you

> have a card? Are you aware of the membership? Did you know that you

> can get a large for 1 dollar more? Etc. " Then, as I'm paying and

> waiting for the transaction to finish, there's that 30 second lapse

> where the card is being approved...and the cashier says, " so, how's

> your day going? "

>

> Was going fine before the 20 questions!

>

> And I use to complain that the cashiers in Philadelphia were too

> rude...can't win. ;)

>

> I've learned to say short answers and look away hoping that they'll

> get the hint, and try to be polite, since they are only doing their

> job and being friendly. But I did snap this morning at Starbucks

> since

> I had just woken up and was not so inhibited. The barista asked me if

> I wanted to upgrade to a Venti for a dollar more and I barked " NO! " .

> I

> think I scared her. The cashier put on that uber friendly voice which

> meant " let's get this jerk out of here. " I did apologize for

> snapping.

> I just want to get in and out, without 20 questions. They aren't paid

> to be my friend, they are paid to be courteous. There's a difference.

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> A lot of these questions are company policy: they have to ask them. Consider

> it like a commerical at the checkout counter. It is annoying, but it is

> probably just as annoying to the people asking the questions. Imagine having

to

> ask the same set of questions 100 or more times per day, each time worry that

> the person will snap at you for asking.

>

>

You're right, , and that's why I apologize to them when I snap. I've

been working at

and Noble for the past month and have been getting a taste of my own

medicine

because we have to hawk membership cards. (Every 30 minutes it seems the

supervisor asks

how many I've sold, I say 42. They don't like that very much.) If I say none,

they frown, and I

say " Oh no, grandfather can't pay the mortgage! Now we're going to lose the

farm! "

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In a message dated 8/18/2005 12:35:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, no_reply writes:

When I am alone, I hike like you walk. It's more of a laying of the feet on the ground as I walk rather than banging my feet down as many people do.

I tried an experiment on a solo hike once. The area was not far from here and I had been there often. As usual, there wasn't a lot of wildlife or birds nearby. I thought perhaps the sound of my steps even though quiet might be scaring the animals. So, I picked up two long sticks and "walked" with them. I timed it so they would hit slightly after my feet did. This was an attempt to simulate the sound a four footed animal might make. Sure enough, birds appeared from nowhere and some even flew quite close to me. The little animals were a little more leery, but I began to see them where before they had stayed hidden.

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When I am alone, I hike like you walk. It's more of a laying of the

feet on the ground as I walk rather than banging my feet down as many

people do.

If I am home alone, I will do the same. I do not like noise and see

no point of making any unnecessarily.

Tom

Today I was helping my mother down at school. I went down to the

store room to get some more chairs for the room when one of the

teachers down that hall starts saying " Hello? " because she could hear

someone moving around. (It should be pointed out that this was after

hours and most of the people were gone.) It is not my nature to make

a lot of noise so I walked down the hall rather than answer verbally.

She came out of her room just about the same time I reached it.

She jumped about a foot and said I about scared her to death. I

simply said " sorry, must be the Indian blood in the family " . This was

actually the second time in three days that this happened, though the

first time was in the other building.

My mother gets annoyed with how quiet I am too. I can just walk

normally around the house and she doesn't hear me moving. Sometimes I

can swear she has to have heard me but she'll turn around and there I

am in the room and she'll startle.

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This is how people can begin to understand and relate to animals.

When you think like they do, you become closer to them somehow. It's

hard to describe specifically, but it happens.

Tom

In a message dated 8/18/2005 12:35:42 AM Eastern Standard Time,

no_reply writes:

When I am alone, I hike like you walk. It's more of a laying of the

feet on the ground as I walk rather than banging my feet down as many

people do.

I tried an experiment on a solo hike once. The area was not far from

here and I had been there often. As usual, there wasn't a lot of

wildlife or birds nearby. I thought perhaps the sound of my steps

even though quiet might be scaring the animals. So, I picked up two

long sticks and " walked " with them. I timed it so they would hit

slightly after my feet did. This was an attempt to simulate the sound

a four footed animal might make. Sure enough, birds appeared from

nowhere and some even flew quite close to me. The little animals were

a little more leery, but I began to see them where before they had

stayed hidden.

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Joe:

> My friend thinks I am nuts when I relate these incidents. We shopped at

the same grocery store, but we may as well have been in different countries.

I do the same

thing, I preplan my words exactly to minimize conversation. I say " blah blah

with blah blah

with no blah. " And they ALWAYS ask me if I want the blah when I said No

blah.

LOL!

I often have this problem.

Perhaps a big picket sign with one's request might get it across?

Inger

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Right! And I think the animals can sense it too.

Inger

Re: How are you today?

This is how people can begin to understand and relate to animals.

When you think like they do, you become closer to them somehow. It's

hard to describe specifically, but it happens.

Tom

In a message dated 8/18/2005 12:35:42 AM Eastern Standard Time,

no_reply writes:

When I am alone, I hike like you walk. It's more of a laying of the

feet on the ground as I walk rather than banging my feet down as many

people do.

I tried an experiment on a solo hike once. The area was not far from

here and I had been there often. As usual, there wasn't a lot of

wildlife or birds nearby. I thought perhaps the sound of my steps

even though quiet might be scaring the animals. So, I picked up two

long sticks and " walked " with them. I timed it so they would hit

slightly after my feet did. This was an attempt to simulate the sound

a four footed animal might make. Sure enough, birds appeared from

nowhere and some even flew quite close to me. The little animals were

a little more leery, but I began to see them where before they had

stayed hidden.

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acceptance. Everyone is valued.

Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the

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On 18 Aug 2005 Joe (or maybe Inger) wrote:

> I do the same thing, I preplan my words exactly to

> minimize conversation. I say " blah blah with blah blah with no

> blah. " And they ALWAYS ask me if I want the blah when I said No

> blah.

I've been able to limit this by not intentionally speeding up

the second response. In Philadelphia, it's common to hear, " Are

you sure? " as a follow-up question. ( " No. I'm a moron and said

no because I forgot the English word for 'yes'. " )

So the most difficult part of this process is to avoid clashing

with the intended politeness. Also, I'm a pilot, so I would be

unlikely to miss a question intended to confirm my request.

-s

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On 18 Aug 2005 Joe (or maybe Inger) wrote:

> I do the same thing, I preplan my words exactly to

> minimize conversation. I say " blah blah with blah blah with no

> blah. " And they ALWAYS ask me if I want the blah when I said No

> blah.

I've been able to limit this by not intentionally speeding up

the second response. In Philadelphia, it's common to hear, " Are

you sure? " as a follow-up question. ( " No. I'm a moron and said

no because I forgot the English word for 'yes'. " )

So the most difficult part of this process is to avoid clashing

with the intended politeness. Also, I'm a pilot, so I would be

unlikely to miss a question intended to confirm my request.

-s

Are you sure?

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On 18 Aug 2005 Joe (or maybe Inger) wrote:

> I do the same thing, I preplan my words exactly to

> minimize conversation. I say " blah blah with blah blah with no

> blah. " And they ALWAYS ask me if I want the blah when I said No

> blah.

I've been able to limit this by not intentionally speeding up

the second response. In Philadelphia, it's common to hear, " Are

you sure? " as a follow-up question. ( " No. I'm a moron and said

no because I forgot the English word for 'yes'. " )

So the most difficult part of this process is to avoid clashing

with the intended politeness. Also, I'm a pilot, so I would be

unlikely to miss a question intended to confirm my request.

-s

Are you sure?

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