Re: Males impressing on females

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If you want to know something that really turns women off, it's

referring to women in terms such as these:

#I gained access to their physical assets and had my way

#From a genetic point of view it paid off as I was able to

knock up a few NT women

# so it paid off.

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> Even the bible mentions women keeping their best finery for when a

city was conquered. The women wanted to attract the best of the

invading warriors who after warming their swords in the bodies of

their men would then take them as their own.

It's called survival.

Lizzie

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I didn't use the analogy to turn women on and the point I was making was that they put their physical attributes on prominent display. Why did they do this and hand them over if that's not what they wanted? Also I think what upsets NT women is the reverse psychology being reversed on them. I think that is the real turn off when you can identify the subterfuge. <chain3turn@...> wrote:

If you want to know something that really turns women off, it's referring to women in terms such as these: #I gained access to their physical assets and had my way #From a genetic point of view it paid off as I was able to knock up a few NT women# so it paid off.Lizziehttp://pg.photos./ph/chain3turn/my_photoshttp://www.livejournal.com/users/samplerlady/http://literarylady.blogspot.com/"To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong." ph Chilton PierceFAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the folder marked "Other FAM Sites."

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Inger,

I never implied that the women in Bosnia enjoyed it either but was using it as an anthropoligical example of subconciouse and physiological reaction to their plight. The example was meant to stimulate debate on a taboo subject, I find the subject a real scientific bonanza into human behaviour and the fact of it being an underground subject gives potency to its importance as a tool of human subject.

EvanInger Lorelei <inglori@...> wrote:

Although I can like a dominant man, I find real violence and killing utterly disgusting. I had an Irish BF who constantly got into fist-fights and I was only sickened by it.

And I really doubt very much that the women who were raped in Bosnia enjoyed it. FYI, the word "rape means they have no choice about it. Getting pregnant is in such cases not a sign of willingness to have sex with the invaders; only of the invaders being successful rapists.

Sure, many women may fantasise about getting raped etc., but I have yet to hear of a single woman who was raped for real actually enjoying it. Same with prostitution. It's just a male fantasy that women enjoy it. I doubt there is a woman on the planet who likes to have to have sex with just anyone, whether in the mood for it or not.

Being married to the emperor and sampling the gladiators is another matter altogether. There she has a choice about it.

Inger

Re: Re: Males impressing on females

I can begin to answer two posts combining them with observations of NT womens behaviour.

The first being the premise I explained firstly and that is that NT behaviour being instinct driven rather than logic based, revolves around the need to ensure the maximum distribution of their genetic material. Liars and cheats are much more likely to ensure the offspring will also fit this category and will henceforth gain more offspring and a further genetic advantage.

This I can only surmise is done in a subconcious manner and flies in the face of social niceties. It then becomes a matter of the socail niceties being a suitable shield for this to take place. It really is inter related. Quite a complex subject indeed.

In the case of the Menendiz brothers the woman jurors became heightened sexually due to the men having killed.

A man who kills another must therefore have superior genes when looked at from the former hyposition and will overide others genes.

During a fight between men outside a pub you will notice female onlookers getting sexually heightened and has historical precedents in the Roman historian Cicero comenting that the gladiatorial games had women exluded at some points during their existance due to womens sexual arousal being on display during the killings. Marcus Aurelius's wife (Marcus was highly likely to have been an Aspie) went down to the victors of these games for sexual liason behind Marcus's back.

Even the bible mentions women keeping their best finery for when a city was conquered. The women wanted to attract the best of the invading warriors who after warming their swords in the bodies of their men would then take them as their own. This too has been noted in recent history with the invasion of Berlin by the Red army and in Bosnia where the serbs kept rape camps to subjugate the Bosnian's genetics with their own. The women were in nearly all cases made pregnant within the first two weeks. This is likely to have been because the soldiers were subconciously seen to be victorious warriors and thus better genetic sources.

Having made these observations you can see why I pray for thanks every day that I wasn't born an NT

Evan

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I was neither turned on or off by the description. I found it simply factual.

Inger

Re: Re: Males impressing on females

I didn't use the analogy to turn women on and the point I was making was that they put their physical attributes on prominent display. Why did they do this and hand them over if that's not what they wanted? Also I think what upsets NT women is the reverse psychology being reversed on them. I think that is the real turn off when you can identify the subterfuge. <chain3turn@...> wrote: If you want to know something that really turns women off, it's referring to women in terms such as these: #I gained access to their physical assets and had my way #From a genetic point of view it paid off as I was able to knock up a few NT women# so it paid off.Lizziehttp://pg.photos./ph/chain3turn/my_photoshttp://www.livejournal.com/users/samplerlady/http://literarylady.blogspot.com/"To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong." ph Chilton PierceFAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the folder marked "Other FAM Sites."

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I think this may be a fairly accurate observation. Though, of course, there may well be many a non-autistic who are able to exercise the same control too, and quite a few autistics that don't. Especially those with ADHD often seem to have some glitches in their frontal lobe control mechanism.

But most on the spectrum that I have had contact with seem to be more mentally oriented and less governed by their passions and instincts than the average Joe.

Inger

Re: Re: Males impressing on females

Leif,

I never meant to imply that Aspies don't have those instincts too. We do, but I think most of us choose not to be dominated by them. There are times when they will give me a lot of trouble, but that typically only lasts a few days. Then it is back to the normal routine of mind being over body.

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I think our relative lack of visible instincts has more to do with our need

to repress them than

anything else. Many of our instincts are not acceptable in society, so we

need to learn to

hide them. So I hardly think we do this by choice. Most of us would feel

better if we

didn't have to hide all our peculiarities.

Besides, I think special interests is a kind of instinct, very similiar to

the NT guy buying

cars to impress girls. Many of the Aspie girls did agree with the notion

that intelligent discussion

was a valued trait. IOW, we might use up more time & effort for " chasing

girls " by buring

ourselves in long-term special interests than any NT guy would do ;-)

Inger:

> I think this may be a fairly accurate observation. Though, of course,

there may well be many a non-autistic who are able to

> exercise the same control too, and quite a few autistics that don't.

Especially those with ADHD often seem to have some

> glitches in their frontal lobe control mechanism.

>

> But most on the spectrum that I have had contact with seem to be more

mentally oriented and less governed by their passions

> and instincts than the average Joe.

:

> I never meant to imply that Aspies don't have those instincts too. We do,

but I think most of us choose not to be dominated by > them. There are times

when they will give me a lot of trouble, but that typically only lasts a few

days. Then it is back to the

> normal routine of mind being over body.

[Guest guest]

> was that they put their physical attributes on prominent display.

Why did they do this and hand them over if that's not what they

wanted?

Because they wanted to dress that way. Because the way a woman

dresses or walks, or whatever is a turn on for -you- doesn't mean

she is turned on by -you- or that you have the right to approach her.

BTW, when other women hear you refer to other women as something

to " knock up " trust me they don't want to be around you.

Lizzie

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Of course woman dress provocatively to attract a mate.

Of course as well they have the right to choose their mate.

I think it is the primevel way of attraction.

In the same way a women uses lipstick.

Aint life grand.

Shaun.

PS. Jano, sorry I havent replied but will soon. <chain3turn@...> wrote:

> was that they put their physical attributes on prominent display. Why did they do this and hand them over if that's not what they wanted? Because they wanted to dress that way. Because the way a woman dresses or walks, or whatever is a turn on for -you- doesn't mean she is turned on by -you- or that you have the right to approach her.BTW, when other women hear you refer to other women as something to "knock up" trust me they don't want to be around you. Lizziehttp://pg.photos./ph/chain3turn/my_photoshttp://www.livejournal.com/users/samplerlady/http://literarylady.blogspot.com/"To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong." ph Chilton Pierce__________________________________________________

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Shaun:

[Waves a little] Indesu - Indesu... [^-^] Is good to know you still are there... I am accostumed to people to turn their backs when they see what I do or what is my main "theme interest/talent". Don't worry, thanks for the apologize, that's something of the most polite replies I ever received.

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Now, regarding the ladies here, I guess I must be one of the most unlucky guys because I would be probably VERY for not saying EXTREMELY happy to date any of you, since after reading what does the AS ladies do like on a man and finding I don't have any kind of problem with any of those, I guess (if not matching at the first time) we could have a very fun and entetaining time on a date. [ñ.n;] Then again, I am one of the most unlucky, since I live on the cementery of culture known as Perú.

Jano S W <scwmachinations@...> escribió:

Of course woman dress provocatively to attract a mate.

Of course as well they have the right to choose their mate.

I think it is the primevel way of attraction.

In the same way a women uses lipstick.

Aint life grand.

Shaun.

PS. Jano, sorry I havent replied but will soon. <chain3turn@...> wrote:

> was that they put their physical attributes on prominent display. Why did they do this and hand them over if that's not what they wanted? Because they wanted to dress that way. Because the way a woman dresses or walks, or whatever is a turn on for -you- doesn't mean she is turned on by -you- or that you have the right to approach her.BTW, when other women hear you refer to other women as something to "knock up" trust me they don't want to be around you. Lizziehttp://pg.photos./ph/chain3turn/my_photoshttp://www.livejournal.com/users/samplerlady/http://literarylady.blogspot.com/"To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong." ph Chilton Pierce

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To anyone,

For anyone that got upset by the use of the term 'knocked up; when using it to describe women I have to clarify meaning as becoming pregnant (Australian slang). It does not mean beating them up. For anyone who was offended I apologise.

Evan

VISIGOTH@... wrote:

In a message dated 8/9/2005 9:13:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, chain3turn@... writes:

Because they wanted to dress that way. Because the way a woman dresses or walks, or whatever is a turn on for -you- doesn't mean she is turned on by -you- or that you have the right to approach her

Well, if they dress to show off they shouldn't get upset when people look. I've seen very scantily dressed girls giving people mean looks. If she really didn't want the attention then she shouldn't have dressed less revealingly.

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Sorry Lizzie,

The term to 'knock up' means to makle pregnant, not beating up if that is what you interpreted it as .. Its is a derivative of Australian slang,

Evan <chain3turn@...> wrote:

> was that they put their physical attributes on prominent display. Why did they do this and hand them over if that's not what they wanted? Because they wanted to dress that way. Because the way a woman dresses or walks, or whatever is a turn on for -you- doesn't mean she is turned on by -you- or that you have the right to approach her.BTW, when other women hear you refer to other women as something to "knock up" trust me they don't want to be around you. Lizziehttp://pg.photos./ph/chain3turn/my_photoshttp://www.livejournal.com/users/samplerlady/http://literarylady.blogspot.com/"To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong." ph Chilton Pierce

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Evan, dont be such a wussy, I'm sure no one thought that.

S.Evan Sinclair <cennis007@...> wrote:

To anyone,

For anyone that got upset by the use of the term 'knocked up; when using it to describe women I have to clarify meaning as becoming pregnant (Australian slang). It does not mean beating them up. For anyone who was offended I apologise.

Evan

VISIGOTH@... wrote:

In a message dated 8/9/2005 9:13:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, chain3turn@... writes:

Because they wanted to dress that way. Because the way a woman dresses or walks, or whatever is a turn on for -you- doesn't mean she is turned on by -you- or that you have the right to approach her

Well, if they dress to show off they shouldn't get upset when people look. I've seen very scantily dressed girls giving people mean looks. If she really didn't want the attention then she shouldn't have dressed less revealingly.

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[Guest guest]

> Sorry Lizzie,

> The term to 'knock up' means to makle pregnant, not beating up if

that is what you interpreted it as .. Its is a derivative of Australian

slang,

I know what the slang is, Evan. What bothered me was the

seemingly braggadocios attitude about managing to get a couple of

them pregnant. Like that proved something. It doesn't take very

much to get a woman pregnant. The test of the man is sticking

around to help with the day to day life of being a parent.

Understand that I have three grandchildren the result of some guy

knocking up my daughters and then disappearing without support or

help. It's a tender spot.

Lizzie

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http://literarylady.blogspot.com/

" To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong. "

ph Chilton Pierce

[Guest guest]

I believe I've heard both Americans and Brits use the " knocked up "

expression.

> > Sorry Lizzie,

> > The term to 'knock up' means to makle pregnant, not beating up if

> that is what you interpreted it as .. Its is a derivative of

Australian

> slang,

>

> I know what the slang is, Evan. What bothered me was the

> seemingly braggadocios attitude about managing to get a couple of

> them pregnant. Like that proved something. It doesn't take very

> much to get a woman pregnant. The test of the man is sticking

> around to help with the day to day life of being a parent.

>

> Understand that I have three grandchildren the result of some guy

> knocking up my daughters and then disappearing without support or

> help. It's a tender spot.

>

> Lizzie

> http://pg.photos./ph/chain3turn/my_photos

> http://www.livejournal.com/users/samplerlady/

> http://literarylady.blogspot.com/

> " To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong. "

> ph Chilton Pierce

[Guest guest]

I believe I've heard both Americans and Brits use the " knocked up "

expression.

> > Sorry Lizzie,

> > The term to 'knock up' means to makle pregnant, not beating up if

> that is what you interpreted it as .. Its is a derivative of

Australian

> slang,

>

> I know what the slang is, Evan. What bothered me was the

> seemingly braggadocios attitude about managing to get a couple of

> them pregnant. Like that proved something. It doesn't take very

> much to get a woman pregnant. The test of the man is sticking

> around to help with the day to day life of being a parent.

>

> Understand that I have three grandchildren the result of some guy

> knocking up my daughters and then disappearing without support or

> help. It's a tender spot.

>

> Lizzie

> http://pg.photos./ph/chain3turn/my_photos

> http://www.livejournal.com/users/samplerlady/

> http://literarylady.blogspot.com/

> " To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong. "

> ph Chilton Pierce

[Guest guest]

Me too.

Inger

Re: Males impressing on females

I believe I've heard both Americans and Brits use the " knocked up "

expression.

> > Sorry Lizzie,

> > The term to 'knock up' means to makle pregnant, not beating up if

> that is what you interpreted it as .. Its is a derivative of

Australian

> slang,

>

> I know what the slang is, Evan. What bothered me was the

> seemingly braggadocios attitude about managing to get a couple of

> them pregnant. Like that proved something. It doesn't take very

> much to get a woman pregnant. The test of the man is sticking

> around to help with the day to day life of being a parent.

>

> Understand that I have three grandchildren the result of some guy

> knocking up my daughters and then disappearing without support or

> help. It's a tender spot.

>

> Lizzie

> http://pg.photos./ph/chain3turn/my_photos

> http://www.livejournal.com/users/samplerlady/

> http://literarylady.blogspot.com/

> " To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong. "

> ph Chilton Pierce

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acceptance. Everyone is valued.

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Me too.

Inger

Re: Males impressing on females

I believe I've heard both Americans and Brits use the " knocked up "

expression.

> > Sorry Lizzie,

> > The term to 'knock up' means to makle pregnant, not beating up if

> that is what you interpreted it as .. Its is a derivative of

Australian

> slang,

>

> I know what the slang is, Evan. What bothered me was the

> seemingly braggadocios attitude about managing to get a couple of

> them pregnant. Like that proved something. It doesn't take very

> much to get a woman pregnant. The test of the man is sticking

> around to help with the day to day life of being a parent.

>

> Understand that I have three grandchildren the result of some guy

> knocking up my daughters and then disappearing without support or

> help. It's a tender spot.

>

> Lizzie

> http://pg.photos./ph/chain3turn/my_photos

> http://www.livejournal.com/users/samplerlady/

> http://literarylady.blogspot.com/

> " To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong. "

> ph Chilton Pierce

FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and

acceptance. Everyone is valued.

Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the

folder marked " Other FAM Sites. "