Re: AS related topics anyone? Risperdal

[Guest guest]

I just want to warn that Risperdal can also have a very detrimental effect on one's nervous system and creativity, sometimes temporarily, sometimes permanently, especially on extra sensitive individuals. Sure, it can turn off or dampen one's sensitivity - which can be a relief for some - but sensitivity is also a gift and if you turn it off, you may also turn off your ability to pick up subtler impressions such as inspiration, intuition and the finer overtones of music, art, seasons, feelings etc. which I would personally not want to lose.

I would thus only try Risperdal in very serious cases where the person is bordering on psychotic and nothing else helps. Especially since it varies so much between individuals how they react. Some people seem to feel much better on this medication whereas others have had such bad side effects that it ruined their life.

I also think that no years are "wasted" even if one is less than happy - and some of us are actually happiest alone. Even if not, it may still be an experience that helps us grow into more compassionate adults than for example those popular kids who easily become arrogant and uncaring. I also think his concerns are very valid and not to be medicated away.

Adults always seem to assume that going on trips and things is only positive for a child. But that is not necessarily so. As a teen I too skipped some trips that I could have gone on because I felt too insecure. I do not regret it. I was quite happy at home. Some trips and a summer camp I did go to, and sure; these were both more fun and marginally less scary than I had imagined, but I did feel very insecure among the other children. Sharing room with a bunch of strangers and having to eat horrid food and participate in all sorts of awful activities such as sailing, on a summer camp, for example, was a real nightmare for me, even though I had some fun too and relaxed somewhat towards the end. I was still very relieved to come home after 5 weeks. I really would have been just as happy at home if only I had enough Superman magazines and drawing material to keep myself entertained.

I still refuse to go anywhere if I'm not sure I get a single room and food that I can tolerate. I recently had to have an operation and these were my basic requirements, take it or leave it. The doctor thought I was a nut, but I was adamant and got my own room and special food. And I still prefer to stay home. My idea of a good time is to be at home, alone.

Inger

Re: Re: AS related topics anyone?

I have just got an email from a father of a aspie boy who wrote in the asperger comunity in orkut-does anyone here know orkut?-that he had improved after medication. I was curious on why on earth he was saying that with good psychotherapy and meds the child would get fine..and then he said that the kids was given Risperdal because he did not have good self steem and would get too nervous around people, sometimes. He said that after Risperdal the child becamse a bit more playful, took things less seriously.

Is for you-or any of you-a temptation, sometimes, to try stuff like this for yourself or a dear one in the family?

I would not do it for me as I see myself fine, but it is not so easy to think my son is fine being soo lonely. It seems to me he is wasting his best youth years. Like, some of his friends invited him for a trip and he said to me he would not go unless he was sure he would have a room for him alone...but then gave up imagining if he didn´t like the stuff he would have already payed such days in the hotel, etc...and maybe he would want to come home earlier. He also gave up going to visit a cousing who invited him as he wondered if he would be kind of obliged to have meals with them, participate somehow in the home routine...and he thought he would maybe prefer to stay at his room all day, or maybe return home before the date he imagine he would.

Sometimes I do end up ejoying people...and I think that sometimes, if given it a try, this can happen.

(I remember a fried of mine, who has not notions of limits and boundaries, once rang my bell and it was late evening and I was in bed...but as she was going to a disco close to my house, she thought it would be nice to stop by. I was angry...and told her she had only ten minutes and then she shoudl leave. It ended up that I loved her conversation...and she stayed about an hour. Well, it was nice she accepted me the way I was)

3. All my relationships have been with Aspies

I think the same. Either all the people, or most of the people I related with are aspies, or I kind of ended up finding supposed aspie traits in them.

Thank you Kathy, for your sharing.

[Guest guest]

Hi, Inger,

Thank you lots for sharing your ideas on Risperdal. It was very important for me as I have been pressed by all family members maybe we should take this boy to a shrink to have him medicated and getting happier and more smiling as he used to be.

I think he is fine...and so true what you said below:

Sharing room with a bunch of strangers and having to eat horrid food and participate in all sorts of awful activities such as sailing, on a summer camp, for example, was a real nightmare for me, even though I had some fun too and relaxed somewhat towards the end. I was still very relieved to come home after 5 weeks. I really would have been just as happy at home if only I had enough Superman magazines and drawing material to keep myself entertained.

Haha, this is so true and brought me a good laugh.

And I still prefer to stay home. My idea of a good time is to be at home, alone.

So it is with me...

Hope you are feeling better with your PMS. Fortunatelly I have never had a thing like that...guess am kind of exception.

Bisous

Marilia

[Guest guest]

Hello Everyone, Can somebody repost what Inger stated about

Risperdal? Because i take risperdal and i'd like to hear what she has

to say about it,thanks. I hope to hear from you soon,good luck in all

you do.Personally i feel it works pretty well i still worry about

things like " am i cut? " and various other things but other than that

it works pretty well, anyways goodnight and sweetdreams.

Signed,

Greg

> Hi, Inger,

>

> Thank you lots for sharing your ideas on Risperdal. It was very

important for me as I have been pressed by all family members maybe

we should take this boy to a shrink to have him medicated and getting

happier and more smiling as he used to be.

> I think he is fine...and so true what you said below:

>

> Sharing room with a bunch of strangers and having to eat horrid

food and participate in all sorts of awful activities such as

sailing, on a summer camp, for example, was a real nightmare for me,

even though I had some fun too and relaxed somewhat towards the end.

I was still very relieved to come home after 5 weeks. I really would

have been just as happy at home if only I had enough Superman

magazines and drawing material to keep myself entertained.

>

> Haha, this is so true and brought me a good laugh.

>

> And I still prefer to stay home. My idea of a good time is to be

at home, alone.

>

> So it is with me...

> Hope you are feeling better with your PMS. Fortunatelly I have

never had a thing like that...guess am kind of exception.

> Bisous

> Marilia

[Guest guest]

Dear Greg,

this is what I wrote about Risperdal:

" I just want to warn that Risperdal can also have a very detrimental effect

on one's nervous system and creativity, sometimes temporarily, sometimes

permanently, especially on extra sensitive individuals. Sure, it can turn

off or dampen one's sensitivity - which can be a relief for some - but

sensitivity is also a gift and if you turn it off, you may also turn off

your ability to pick up subtler impressions such as inspiration, intuition

and the finer overtones of music, art, seasons, feelings etc. which I would

personally not want to lose. "

But please note that this opinion is based purely on hearsay from other AS

or ADHD people who have taken it, and not on personal experience. I have

never tried Risperdal myself. I am also no MD.

I also wrote that some seem to function well on Risperdal, so obviously it

can vary greatly from person to person. If you find that it works for you

and does not give serious side-effects or interfere with your creativity,

then it may be just fine for you.

Inger

Re: AS related topics anyone? Risperdal

Hello Everyone, Can somebody repost what Inger stated about

Risperdal? Because i take risperdal and i'd like to hear what she has

to say about it,thanks. I hope to hear from you soon,good luck in all

you do.Personally i feel it works pretty well i still worry about

things like " am i cut? " and various other things but other than that

it works pretty well, anyways goodnight and sweetdreams.

Signed,

Greg

> Hi, Inger,

>

> Thank you lots for sharing your ideas on Risperdal. It was very

important for me as I have been pressed by all family members maybe

we should take this boy to a shrink to have him medicated and getting

happier and more smiling as he used to be.

> I think he is fine...and so true what you said below:

>

> Sharing room with a bunch of strangers and having to eat horrid

food and participate in all sorts of awful activities such as

sailing, on a summer camp, for example, was a real nightmare for me,

even though I had some fun too and relaxed somewhat towards the end.

I was still very relieved to come home after 5 weeks. I really would

have been just as happy at home if only I had enough Superman

magazines and drawing material to keep myself entertained.

>

> Haha, this is so true and brought me a good laugh.

>

> And I still prefer to stay home. My idea of a good time is to be

at home, alone.

>

> So it is with me...

> Hope you are feeling better with your PMS. Fortunatelly I have

never had a thing like that...guess am kind of exception.

> Bisous

> Marilia

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[Guest guest]

Folks, well, I am sorry to post this post here, maybe you will feel offensive, but maybe you can really help me.

Well, the thing is, I am an aspie with some traits, my husband is another one with other traits, and my son is another one with some trais from me, some from his fathers, and some from his own.

The thing is my hsuband has never really accepted him..I think he liked more my younger son, as he himself many times have said this older son reflects some of his own traits, weak points and difficulties.

I have begged him to be nicer to him...he needs aproval, etc.

He is the one who thinks we should give him risperdal, he thinks he has been to lonely, has wasted his youth years, and soemtimes he says he gets tired of trying to try to relate with him. For me it is much easier to build a bridge between us...and this morning I asked him to try to build this bridge with him, as only abstract loving is not enough. Somtimes them both get very quiet around each other and their relationship is not as good as it is with me.

Maybe I was pushy to my husband who doesn´t know to build those bridges.

Well, then he said that the rest of the world will find boring to be around my son, as he cannot start a move. Well, that got me really angry, and reppllied that I know some people, maybe most, are like this, but he is his father...besides I do believe my aspian boy has his own way to be fulfilled and happy.

That was a big fight and I ended up upset as I think he does not really accepts and builds a bridge with his son...I understand he doesn´t know how, sometimes.

I had fowarded some messages from this list to him yesterday, before thew thing that we argued about this morning.

( have suggested him to be a member of this list so he would understand more, share some stuff being an aspie himself)

This morning I got his reply. I have already repplied to it, which says that I believe some are great in both areas-the ones he asked me-, some are great in one, or maybe are not great in none, like non aspies do as well. But, if you could give me your contribution....

I understand much of his fears come out of ignorance.

Thank you

Marilia

(his reply after reading some of the posts on need to be lonely and risperdal)Very interesting, indeed, knowing another people who have an alike behavior that our son has. Make us all feel that he's not a unique case. If you can, try to figure out what these people, your recently knew, do for living. If what they do is enough to afford, by themselves, their way of life. Also, it could be interenting, as well, to know if they have an affective loving fullfilment, i.e., if they have a satisfied love life (if they can love someone and if they receive back their love). In other words, are they completely happy ? (don't tell me that nobody is completely happy, 'cause this is not what I meant).Waiting ...

"Marilia Tavares" mariliatavares@...

Re: Re: AS related topics anyone?I have just got an email from a father of a aspie boy who wrote in the asperger comunity in orkut-does anyone here know orkut?-that he had improved after medication. I was curious on why on earth he was saying that with good psychotherapy and meds the child would get fine..and then he said that the kids was given Risperdal because he did not have good self steem and would get too nervous around people, sometimes. He said that after Risperdal the child becamse a bit more playful, took things less seriously. Is for you-or any of you-a temptation, sometimes, to try stuff like this for yourself or a dear one in the family?I would not do it for me as I see myself fine, but it is not so easy to think my son is fine being soo lonely. It seems to me he is wasting his best youth years. Like, some of his friends invited him for a trip and he said to me he would not go unless he was sure he would have a room for him alone...but then gave up imagining if he didn´t like the stuff he would have already payed such days in the hotel, etc...and maybe he would want to come home earlier. He also gave up going to visit a cousing who invited him as he wondered if he would be kind of obliged to have meals with them, participate somehow in the home routine...and he thought he would maybe prefer to stay at his room all day, or maybe return home before the date he imagine he would.Sometimes I do end up ejoying people...and I think that sometimes, if given it a try, this can happen.(I remember a fried of mine, who has not notions of limits and boundaries, once rang my bell and it was late evening and I was in bed...but as she was going to a disco close to my house, she thought it would be nice to stop by. I was angry...and told her she had only ten minutes and then she shoudl leave. It ended up that I loved her conversation...and she stayed about an hour. Well, it was nice she accepted me the way I was)3. All my relationships have been with Aspies I think the same. Either all the people, or most of the people I related with are aspies, or I kind of ended up finding supposed aspie traits in them.Thank you Kathy, for your sharing.

[Guest guest]

Hmm...

Okay. Well, in terms of career I am a recpetionist and an

administrative assistant to the Vice President of the third largest

Consulting Firm for charities in the US. My boss is also the

Chairman's wife.

My earnings from my job and investments are about 170,800.00 BRL per

year. (One midsized American car costs about 61,000.00 BRL.)

Relationships...

That depends.

I have had ten girlfriends over the years with varying degrees of

satisfaction. Three relationships have lasted 4 years, the rest

shorter. I have been married and divorced once. If he's measuring

happiness in terms of sexual promiscuity, then I've been with four

women, one of those in the Clinton/Lewinski sense, but I personally

would have rather been only with one lifelong partner.

Right now I am " involved " with Inger.

The only thing I'd change about my life is that I would live more

like Rainbow does, but with even less contact with people.

Tom

(his reply after reading some of the posts on need to be lonely and

risperdal)

Very interesting, indeed, knowing another people who have an alike

behavior that our son has. Make us all feel that he's not a unique

case. If you can, try to figure out what these people, your

recently knew, do for living. If what they do is enough to afford,

by themselves, their way of life.

Also, it could be interenting, as well, to know if they have an

affective loving fullfilment, i.e., if they have a satisfied love

life (if they can love someone and if they receive back their love).

In other words, are they completely happy ? (don't tell me that

nobody is completely happy, 'cause this is not what I meant).

Waiting ...

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Tom...

Kind of you this reply. Well, I got enthusiastic about your 'envolvemente' with Inger!

Marilia

[Guest guest]

Dear Inger, I've been taking Risperdal for years and i do not feel

that it has put a damper on my creativity whether in music or in art.

I always feel that i have a new idea for a painting or a new

composition to write on the piano or on my hammered dulcimer. But

thank you for this report i will have to print this out and show it

to my family just in case anybody is interested in it. I hope to hear

from you soon,good luck in all you do. And thank you for trying to

look out for our health.

Signed,

Greg

> > Hi, Inger,

> >

> > Thank you lots for sharing your ideas on Risperdal. It was very

> important for me as I have been pressed by all family members maybe

> we should take this boy to a shrink to have him medicated and

getting

> happier and more smiling as he used to be.

> > I think he is fine...and so true what you said below:

> >

> > Sharing room with a bunch of strangers and having to eat horrid

> food and participate in all sorts of awful activities such as

> sailing, on a summer camp, for example, was a real nightmare for me,

> even though I had some fun too and relaxed somewhat towards the end.

> I was still very relieved to come home after 5 weeks. I really would

> have been just as happy at home if only I had enough Superman

> magazines and drawing material to keep myself entertained.

> >

> > Haha, this is so true and brought me a good laugh.

> >

> > And I still prefer to stay home. My idea of a good time is to be

> at home, alone.

> >

> > So it is with me...

> > Hope you are feeling better with your PMS. Fortunatelly I have

> never had a thing like that...guess am kind of exception.

> > Bisous

> > Marilia

>

>

>

>

> FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship,

support and

> acceptance. Everyone is valued.

>

> Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page

in the

> folder marked " Other FAM Sites. "

>

[Guest guest]

Glad to hear that it works for you and that you have not had any bad side

effects.

Inger

Re: AS related topics anyone? Risperdal

Dear Inger, I've been taking Risperdal for years and i do not feel

that it has put a damper on my creativity whether in music or in art.

I always feel that i have a new idea for a painting or a new

composition to write on the piano or on my hammered dulcimer. But

thank you for this report i will have to print this out and show it

to my family just in case anybody is interested in it. I hope to hear

from you soon,good luck in all you do. And thank you for trying to

look out for our health.

Signed,

Greg

> > Hi, Inger,

> >

> > Thank you lots for sharing your ideas on Risperdal. It was very

> important for me as I have been pressed by all family members maybe

> we should take this boy to a shrink to have him medicated and

getting

> happier and more smiling as he used to be.

> > I think he is fine...and so true what you said below:

> >

> > Sharing room with a bunch of strangers and having to eat horrid

> food and participate in all sorts of awful activities such as

> sailing, on a summer camp, for example, was a real nightmare for me,

> even though I had some fun too and relaxed somewhat towards the end.

> I was still very relieved to come home after 5 weeks. I really would

> have been just as happy at home if only I had enough Superman

> magazines and drawing material to keep myself entertained.

> >

> > Haha, this is so true and brought me a good laugh.

> >

> > And I still prefer to stay home. My idea of a good time is to be

> at home, alone.

> >

> > So it is with me...

> > Hope you are feeling better with your PMS. Fortunatelly I have

> never had a thing like that...guess am kind of exception.

> > Bisous

> > Marilia

>

>

>

>

> FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship,

support and

> acceptance. Everyone is valued.

>

> Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page

in the

> folder marked " Other FAM Sites. "

>