I'm at it again on FB - and feel like I'm over my head again - trying to help with the New Evangelization, but feel like I'm up the creek without a paddle

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L**********3 hours ago near Chesapeake · 

If you have a problem with any civil rights issues that regard the LGBT community please defriend me. I believe in gay marriage, gay parenting, insurance rights and coverage for gay couples and the list goes on. I don't tolerate bigotry. Thanks. And Shame shame on North Carolina!

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M***** I don't understand how some straight people can get marrried & divorced 5+ times, like Liz , but gay couples who are in loving, committed, long term relationships can't. SMH...

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L***** Newt Gingrich?2 hours ago · Like ·  1

D***** Yup yup. Plenty of straight politicians have done a whole helluva lot to destroy the sanctity of marriage with their own actions & disrespect for marital vows...

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M***** I saw a HILARIOUS sign the other day that said " blame straight people. They're the ones that keep making gay babies " . HAH!

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M***** So agreed. It's just awful. People need to open their minds.2 hours ago via mobile · Like

O'Connor you really want me to de-friend you because we have different morals?

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L***** Different morals is one thing being a bigot is quite another!59 minutes ago · Like

D****** If you are morally opposed to same-sex marriage...don't get married to someone of the same sex. Boom. Easy.36 minutes ago · Like ·  2

M******* This is going around my newsfeed today: http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/steps-to-help-you-evolve-your-views-on-gay-marriag :)

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O'Connor  Wow - I don't think I'm a bigot. As a Catholic, I believe marriage is a covenantal relationship, and between one man and one woman. I don't think we should discriminate against people with same-sex attractions. If that makes me a bigot in your eyes. I'm very sorry. I also do not believe people should get married, divorced and re-married again (unless the marriage wasn't valid in the first place). The meaning of the marital act lies in it's ability to be unitive and procreative. Fertility is a holy time. There is a mystical, sacred nature of the act. I believe children should be born with dignity to a mother and a father - naturally (not made in a lab/test tube/with a syringe). But if these issues come between our friendship, you can de-friend me. I will not de-friend you. I believe that every human being is made in the image-and-likeness of God, the creator. I believe that every human being deserves respect and should not be discriminated against. I do not believe that we have the power or the right to change Marriage. I think they can have civil unions to get them insurance rights & coverage, but marriage is unitive and procreative, and therefore can only be between a man and a woman.

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D****** I feel really sorry for heterosexual infertile couples or heterosexual couples who choose to not have children. Their marriages have no meaning. How awful for them!

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D****Also, marriage has been redefined many times. Why limit it to one man and one woman when it was originally one man & many women...most of them children? Let's keep it real here. We should never have redefined marriage.

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J***** Leav it it up to the church. If the church wants to marry two swordfighters or two carpetmongers.......let them be married. Doesn't affect me at all. Only say the govt should have in marriage is when it pertains to a Justice of the Peace marriage. They can bar them but shouldn't control the church.

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D***** A big issue is that the government requires marriage licenses. They need to find a new way to get their $25. I agree the churches should decide for their own church. If Catholic priests don't want to marry same-sex couples, fine. However, if the government is going to stay involved & keep calling it marriage, they have to quit being discriminatory. Marriage used to also only be legal between same race couples and plenty of Christians supported that because " it was in the Bible. " I guess that's another instance where we redefined marriage. It seems like we do this an awful lot...

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Da*****-Br**** - its carpet munched not monger.2 hours ago · Like

D*****-B***** Munched = muncher2 hours ago · Like

K****** , it's wonderful that you believe these things, and I think I can speak for Leonie that she absolutely respects you believing those things for yourself. You don't believe in fertility advances? Well thank goodness you've been blessed with two gorgeous children. I have way too many friends that haven't, and they get on their knees daily and thank god for the doctors and researchers that have figured out ways for them to have their own biological babies. You don't believe in gay marriage? Thank goodness you have a wonderful hubby to come home to everyday, who can be there in an emergency room and make medical decisions for you if god forbid the need ever arose. Who I'm guessing is the provider of your health insurance and life insurance, since I think you are a SAHM? (forgive me if this is incorrect). And I mean all of this sincerely, I am not trying to be snarky or difficult. I just don't understand how anyone can think that they know the right way for another person to live their life. This absolutely blows my mind. I do not believe in your god, but I am a good person with good morals and I believe in allowing every person that walks this earth to have access to the same rights as you, period. How can you possibly tell me the absolute right answer to what marriage is, what fertility is? Your answer is not THE answer. I accept that is the right answer for you, and I embrace that and say hey, yay, I'm thrilled you've found the path that is right for you. But it's not mine, and that's okay too!

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B***** LOVE LOVE LOVE YOUR RESPONSE. and Kacey THAT is why I think youre awesome. Big fb hug and high five to you.

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E****** I think it's fine to believe pretty much anything a person wants and say so. As loudly as one wants. Teach your children those values and beliefs. Practice them in public, your home, your place of worship and your private organizations. That's the American way after all. (And the legalization of gay marriage wouldn't alter this one single bit.) 

What I don't think is very American or moral is to think that those beliefs should be legislated and forced onto everyone else. If one's God is eternal, infallible and all powerful, then one certainly doesn't need a mortal, fallible, limited institution like civil government to validate and legislate those belief to every single other citizen who does have the (God given???) free will to choose their own path. A look at history reveals that using civil law to enact religious law is a terrible idea (Inquisition!).

" God requires not an uniformity of religion to be enacted and enforced in any civil state; which enforced uniformity, sooner or later, is the greatest occasion of civil war, ravishing consciences, persecution of Christ Jesus in His servants, and of the hypocrisy and destruction of millions of souls. " , 1644

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