Guest guest Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Dear All,In many of these arguments against marriage, there is a false premise or a false conclusion and it must be brought to light, calmly, charitably and with confidence. Unfortunately most people don't want to listen. They just want to shout over you and call you names but it is worth a try. With every truth comes a grace.....Here are some of the false statements floating out there:1.Civil and sacramental marriage are not connected. ( did an excellent job with this one, please the email read below.)2. Because there are bad marriages between heterosexuals, we should allow homosexual marriages. ( The institution does need to be fix as it was designed perfectly by God. The human heartmust be fixed with grace. Solid marriage prep and enrichment (and yes NFP instruction) can also help couples succeed. Be a messenger of hope not despair.)3. Since you are against "gay marriage", you are a ________(Don't let someone attack you personally because they can't defend their argument, gently call them on it!) 4.I know a gay couple and they are wonderful parents so they should be allowed to marry. (How someone parents or displays good parenting, doesn't mean that a child should be denied intentionally the care of the mother and the father. Also the purpose of marriage may need to be explained here, how the couple's love points to Trinitarian love. The culture has sexualized all relationships and thus there is a tragic confusion on how to properly love people in the relationship of spouse, friend and even tragically adult to child.) 5. You can believe what you want but don't push your beliefs on me. (Remind them who is doing the pushing here but again it must be done with charity. As followers of Christ, we arecalled to share the Good News. We are just being called names right now but saints before us have been martyred for this same.)In each of your responses,whether it be with family, friends or strangers, please remember to pray to the Holy Spirit. The arguments can be so twisted and we often need help to untwist so the truth is visible without losing our cool.In Him, we can move mountains,Kathy Re: I'm at it again on FB - and feel like I'm over my head again - trying to help with the New Evangelization, but feel like I'm up the creek without a paddle How do I respond to this: "Maybe I'm just dumb, because I fail to see how civil marriage and the sacrament of marriage are connected? I do have a degree in Christian theology, and I have read the systematic theologies of Augustine and Aquinas so I have a very clear working knowledge of the sacraments and their importance. And I still don't get it. Isn't the sacrament completely separate from the civil part? Because you can be married in a civil ceremony and not in the eyes of the church - it happens all the time with Catholics who are divorced and can't be remarried in the Church. You have your marriage license that allows you to file taxes jointly, share custody of your children, have health insurance together, inherit, make medical decision, be next of kin, etc. The gov't doesn't care what you believe - it is a civil contract with defined by civil parameters and interpreted and enforced by civil courts. On the other hand a sacramental marriage is something completely different (outside and separate from the law and civil authority.) It is defined by a religious authority and interpreted and enforced by a religious system. And isn't that a good thing? The church out of the civil code and the civil authorities out of the church? If someone having a marriage that is outside the Catholic definition of a sacramental marriage is considered an infringement on the religious liberty of Catholics, then my husband and I shouldn't be married - we're atheists. And neither should any Jews, Muslims, Wiccans, Budhists, etc. or anyone contracepting. Because by definition, we are NOT truly married at all. And are in fact destroying "real" marriage."- On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Dominic Pedulla <pedullad@...> wrote: What's the problem?Sent from my iPhone On May 10, 2012, at 6:26 PM, " & Dan O'C." <oconnor1124@...> wrote: Here's the latest: Leonie O'Shea Strutton9 hours ago near Chesapeake · If you have a problem with any civil rights issues that regard the LGBT community please defriend me. I believe in gay marriage, gay parenting, insurance rights and coverage for gay couples and the list goes on. I don't tolerate bigotry. Thanks. And Shame shame on North Carolina! Like · Jenna s, Bekah Magness , Stille and 34 others like this. Mackin Redrow I don't understand how some straight people can get marrried & divorced 5+ times, like Liz , but gay couples who are in loving, committed, long term relationships can't. SMH... 9 hours ago via mobile · Like · 1 Liz Kennedy Wiechert Newt Gingrich? 9 hours ago · Like · 1 Dana Karstensen- Yup yup. Plenty of straight politicians have done a whole helluva lot to destroy the sanctity of marriage with their own actions & disrespect for marital vows... 8 hours ago · Like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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