Re: Group Adminstration

[Guest guest]

Perhaps it would be best to leave what happens on the other boards ON the other boards. If something worthwhile or helpful for us is posted there, then it could be mentioned here. That other stuff though; that just seems to be importing the conflict and we don't need that.

[Guest guest]

" I was surprised by the content of your post, earlier today. The

reason I had that reaction was because, once again, old stuff from

other boards was still being drudged up. I just don't understand

why. A sincere apology, which you did seem to feel was necessary,

would have been enough. "

Here's why:

I set up all these boards for all of you, weeded out the trolls and

got rid of them to make this place a safe place.

There was a time when I threw someone out when I was moderating on

another message board and everyone wanted to know why because they

were sending messages to her and she was not responding. They felt

it was sneaky just to get rid of someone and not tell anyone.

I learned from that that it is always a good thing to tell people

why you do what you do.

Historically speaking, I explained to you folks many times that

there were people on the main board that were a danger and needed to

be ejected and felt it necessary to do it in front of all of you in

order to demonstrate that I had legitimate cause to get rid of him.

How would you have felt if you were picked on by someone from

another message board and knew that that person was a fellow member

here, gathering information to use against you? This is what some of

our members are dealing with.

I have had more people coming to me asking for protection than you

would believe and I did what I did here to let everyone know that I

have and will continue to stand up for them in a time of need.

I gave this board to many people here and defended them on other

message boards until I was banned. They all have safe havens here.

Leadership is when you make the hard decisions that others are

unwilling take. You do it because you have to and you do it because

you care about the people you are taking actions for. I threw out

Gareth not to settle an old score but to keep you all safe.

I think we can all agree that trolls on this board are not a good

idea.

Your comments are appreciated and well-taken.

Tom

Administrator

Tom,

I think every one feels a deep appreciation for the fact that you

started this group. None of us would have this " place " to come to,

if you hadn't. Just, please, no more on the old, negative history.

We can't take it.

> Sincerely,

>

[Guest guest]

On 6/14/05, environmental1st2003 <no_reply > wrote: Leadership is when you make the hard decisions that others are unwilling take. You do it because you have to and you do it because you care about the people you are taking actions for. I threw out Gareth not to settle an old score but to keep you all safe.

Hi tom

I hardly think throwing out Gareth is " keeping people safe " . Gareth nelson doesnt deserve to have his private life scrutinized in public.

Gareth and Amy are quite a husband and wife team. They have done more the advancement of the anticure viewpoint than many that came before them. Just recently AFF was mentioned on MSNBC.com

They are also being profiled by a major news outlet this friday/saturday. with photos.

And we just got word a major NT parent mag wants to do a piece in OCtober on AFF. it might be very critical but they are making a dent.

I think we can all agree that trolls on this board are not a good idea.Your comments are appreciated and well-taken. TomAdministrator

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your input. I promised Gareth I would say nothing more

about this and so I will not. Suffice it to say that I had my reasons

for throwing him out.

Hi tom

I hardly think throwing out Gareth is " keeping people safe " . Gareth

nelson doesnt deserve to have his private life scrutinized in public.

Gareth and Amy are quite a husband and wife team. They have

done more the advancement of the anticure viewpoint than many that

came before them. Just recently AFF was mentioned on MSNBC.com

They are also being profiled by a major news outlet this

friday/saturday. with photos.

And we just got word a major NT parent mag wants to do a piece in

OCtober on AFF. it might be very critical but they are making a dent.

[Guest guest]

Hi Joe,

I can't find the area in the NBC site you mentioned, could you give more specifics, just curious.

BethJoe Mele <joemele@...> wrote:

On 6/14/05, environmental1st2003 <no_reply > wrote: Leadership is when you make the hard decisions that others are unwilling take. You do it because you have to and you do it because you care about the people you are taking actions for. I threw out Gareth not to settle an old score but to keep you all safe.

Hi tom

I hardly think throwing out Gareth is "keeping people safe". Gareth nelson doesnt deserve to have his private life scrutinized in public.

Gareth and Amy are quite a husband and wife team. They have done more the advancement of the anticure viewpoint than many that came before them. Just recently AFF was mentioned on MSNBC.com

They are also being profiled by a major news outlet this friday/saturday. with photos.

And we just got word a major NT parent mag wants to do a piece in OCtober on AFF. it might be very critical but they are making a dent.

I think we can all agree that trolls on this board are not a good idea.Your comments are appreciated and well-taken. TomAdministrator

[Guest guest]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7899821/

On 6/14/05, beth sullivan <dksunglsses@...> wrote:

Hi Joe,

I can't find the area in the NBC site you mentioned, could you give more specifics, just curious.

Beth Joe Mele <joemele@...> wrote:

On 6/14/05, environmental1st2003 <no_reply

> wrote: Leadership is when you make the hard decisions that others are unwilling take. You do it because you have to and you do it because you care about the people you are taking actions for. I threw out Gareth not to settle an old score but to keep you all safe.

Hi tom

I hardly think throwing out Gareth is " keeping people safe " . Gareth nelson doesnt deserve to have his private life scrutinized in public.

Gareth and Amy are quite a husband and wife team. They have done more the advancement of the anticure viewpoint than many that came before them. Just recently AFF was mentioned on

MSNBC.com

They are also being profiled by a major news outlet this friday/saturday. with photos.

And we just got word a major NT parent mag wants to do a piece in OCtober on AFF. it might be very critical but they are making a dent.

I think we can all agree that trolls on this board are not a good idea.Your comments are appreciated and well-taken. TomAdministrator

[Guest guest]

Willian:

> Perhaps it would be best to leave what happens on the other boards ON the

> other boards.

> If something worthwhile or helpful for us is posted there, then it could

> be mentioned here.

> That other stuff though; that just seems to be importing the conflict and

> we don't need that.

I absolutely agree. If first Aspergia and now Aspergian Island collapsed, it

seems quite likely

that this group would also collapse if several hundred refugees from AI are

allowed in. If

Tom wants to help these, I'd suggest creating new groups instead.

Leif

[Guest guest]

Hi Leif,

Thanks for the input. I am in communication with Edan at

www.aspergia.com right now about this issue. Up until today, the

existing agreement with Edan has been that this particular forum was

and is for Aspergian.com refugees and as many of the refugees from

Aspergian Island (an unofficial Aspergia board) are Aspergians, I

would like to continue to honor my agreement, but with stipulations.

We'll see what happens. At present, there are enough viable

alternatives that I actually DON'T think we'll see a sharp rise in

membership. But we'll see.

Tom

I absolutely agree. If first Aspergia and now Aspergian Island

collapsed, it seems quite likely that this group would also collapse

if several hundred refugees from AI are allowed in. If Tom wants to

help these, I'd suggest creating new groups instead.

Leif