Healthy, Economical Weight Loss

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Hi all,

I am looking for input from those who have had experience (or have seen

others)with significant weight loss. I have a lot of hormonal/endocrine issues

and have been struggling to lose weight. They only thing that " works " for me in

my experience, is cutting calories to 800 or less. I really want to do things

the healthy way, so any advice is appreciated.

I have tried the NT cookbook and Eat Fat, Lose Fat, but found myself maintaining

an obese weight rather than losing.

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynn

I enjoyed the book The Liberation Diet by Brown. It's really more if a

lifestyle change than a diet (ie you change the way you eat forever). It's high

protein, fat and veggies.

Susie

On Jan 13, 2011, at 5:06 PM, " lynnmnel " <shannon.nelson@...> wrote:

> Hi all,

> I am looking for input from those who have had experience (or have seen

others)with significant weight loss. I have a lot of hormonal/endocrine issues

and have been struggling to lose weight. They only thing that " works " for me in

my experience, is cutting calories to 800 or less. I really want to do things

the healthy way, so any advice is appreciated.

>

> I have tried the NT cookbook and Eat Fat, Lose Fat, but found myself

maintaining an obese weight rather than losing.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I was thinking about your question and had initially hesitated, but I'm going to

recommend reading Mastering Your Metabolism by Jillian s. Her

suggestions can integrate fairly well with a Traditional Foods diet and she

explains how different foods and chemicals can play with your hormones. I

learned a lot from this book, and it helped me get some things under control. I

however, still struggle with weight, but I'm feeling much better.

I hope you find something that works for you.

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goes on and 18,000 people boo? "

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[Guest guest]

I have a friend at work who had a few years of horrible problems, she had a

bunch of heavy metal toxicity and thyroid trouble, and gained a whole lot of

weight. Her thyroid was finally almost dead, she actually had a TSH of over

250, then it would swing the other way. She finally decided to try this, as a

birthday present to herself, and if I had not seen her myself while she was

sick, I would not believe it. Her legs were so swollen she could hardly go up

stairs, she looks fantastic now.

http://www.yourrejuvenationnorthstar.com/contact.php

The person who runs this place here is Dr , her office is in Stillwater,

she is really nice, I don't have a weight issue, but I get some supplements from

her, and I may try a round of this diet to 'reset' my system. I believe you can

also get the 'Rejuvination 21' program from other practitioners. I think it is

a pretty strict detox diet for something like 21 days, and NT is not their main

focus, but my friend used it to get back to normal, and is investigating other

stuff now.

Beth in Maplewood

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> Hi all,

> I am looking for input from those who have had experience (or have seen

others)with significant weight loss. I have a lot of hormonal/endocrine issues

and have been struggling to lose weight. They only thing that " works " for me in

my experience, is cutting calories to 800 or less. I really want to do things

the healthy way, so any advice is appreciated.

>

> I have tried the NT cookbook and Eat Fat, Lose Fat, but found myself

maintaining an obese weight rather than losing.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I think you would need to address your endrocrine issues first to have

success. One possible route is compound rx in Bloomington. Make an

appointment with Vern (he is a little weird, but REALLY knows his stuff) and

he can get you set up with the right Dr and the right natural hormone

replacements if that is the cause of you not losing weight.. I wonder if I

should list him in the database...

Ps- Got your coupon, thanks! Have you received mine yet?

[Guest guest]

I should have also said the Drs who Vern works with are fantastic MDs who

are main stream, but understand natural replacement therapy.

[Guest guest]

Having gained and lost 50 pounds during my initial battle with Rheumatoid

Arthritis and Fibromyalgia (and another 65, and then another 40, after

pregnancies) I hope my experiences will be helpful.

I initially tried dieting (low fat/low cal, Atkins, shakes, etc.) and the weight

wouldn't budge. I only felt worse physically and emotionally. Then I found

WAPF and decided to put my weight-loss goals on hold because my health and

feeling good were more important to me than how I looked - my new goal became to

find health and to live a pain-free life. And wouldn't you know it, that's when

the weight began falling off.

Some key things that worked for me:

Focus on whole foods - REAL food, nothing that comes in a box.

Stop counting. Ignore how many calories or grams of fat you might be getting,

and tune into your body. Eat when you're hungry, eat slowly and enjoy your food,

and stop eating when you're no longer hungry. Keep in mind that it takes about

20 minutes for your body to alert you that it's full, which is why it's so

important to take your time. Also keep in mind that many chemicals in processed

foods trick your body - they trick it into thinking it's NOT full when it is, or

make you addicted to the product so you keep eating anyway, and some of them

even mess with your chemistry and make you hang onto weight. Get rid of them.

This is where Pollan's advice is really helpful. If your great great

grandmother wouldn't recognize it as food, don't eat it. Eat all of the " junk

food " you want, as long as you make it (this prevents it from happening as

often, since it can be so labor-intensive and time-consuming to make your own

french fries or bake a cake from scratch, and it ensures that the ingredients

are healthy when you do.)

Don't eat (or not eat) to lose weight. Change your focus to eating (or not

eating) to improve your health. I think the mind-body connection is very

powerful and should not be ignored, especially when you're trying to lose

significant amounts of weight. Pay attention to how you treat yourself. Be

gentle and patient with yourself, and pay more attention to giving positive

feedback than negative. It can be *so easy* to beat yourself up when weight is

involved, and I believe that only makes us hold onto it more. Here's an article

I found that might be helpful

http://www.thefitshack.com/2007/04/03/how-to-use-your-brain-to-lose-weight/ I

really enjoyed Louise Hay's book, You Can Heal Your Life.

How long did you try NT and EF,LF for? What did that look like for you? (ie,

100% of the recommendations, or here and there when able to? I totally

understand that they're really overwhelming at first, and it can be challenging

to integrate the recommended changes into your life. That's where this group

comes in Pick some do-able changes to start with, and keep chipping away at

them. You'll get there.

I also found that my and my family's health improved more when we started

eliminating chemicals from our lifestyle, as well as our food. I used to get my

shampoo, conditioner, makeup, lotion, and other personal are products from

Target and other " mainstream " places like that. Then I learned about this site

http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/ and looked them up individually. WOW, that's

a lot of chemicals to be absorbing through the skin each day! I also stopped

buying the neon-colored kitchen and bathroom cleaners, and started using baking

soda, vinegar, and h202 for cleaning. Life is simpler, safer, healthier, and I

find I'm actually spending a lot less than before.

Oh, and don't underestimate the importance of buying organic. Pesticides can

also mess with your body chemistry and make it difficult to lose weight. Here's

a helpful article from the EWG

http://www.ewg.org/release/when-should-you-buy-organic and another one from

another source, about chemicals in general

http://www.alive.com/4461a12a2.php?subject_bread_cramb=151

Uh oh, my baby just learned to crawl and is getting into her big sister's toys!

Gotta run

Best wishes to you.

Alyssa

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> Hi all,

> I am looking for input from those who have had experience (or have seen

others)with significant weight loss. I have a lot of hormonal/endocrine issues

and have been struggling to lose weight. They only thing that " works " for me in

my experience, is cutting calories to 800 or less. I really want to do things

the healthy way, so any advice is appreciated.

>

> I have tried the NT cookbook and Eat Fat, Lose Fat, but found myself

maintaining an obese weight rather than losing.

>

[Guest guest]

I have not actively tried to lose weight, but I have spent the last 4-6 years

eating as healthily as possible to control my diabetes. (With the occasional

carb binge, sigh!) However, for me, I have noticed that NOTHING has changed my

weight in about 18 years (since I was 12...). Not low carb, not low carb high

fat, not low calorie, or low fat, nothing. However, using a lowish carb diet, I

have maintained my health despite my diabetes, and if I go low carb high fat for

a couple of months, I conceive a child (I was officially infertile for years),

which is a clue that it is right for me... just not right enough to lose weight,

so I was baffled, but I accepted that I was never going to lose weight.

FYI, I never vary in weight more than a couple of pounds, no matter what I eat,

I do not lose, but I do not gain either, so I figured it was an act of

divinity... I just needed to accept it...

Lately, I have noticed a change in weight... I have been losing and maintaining

the loss, and I hadn't done anything special, no exercise, no special diets, so

I really had to think about why I was suddenly losing after a life time of the

exact same weight. I finally figured out that I did make a diet change just

before I started to lose weight; I started eating Miso soup on a regular basis.

Real fermented, unpasteurized Miso soup from South River

http://www.southrivermiso.com/

I believe that the Miso is finally healing my gut (which according to Gut and

Psychology Syndrome, is the root of all disorders), and the result of that is my

unexplained weight loss. It's worth a try, good luck!

Just my two cents,

Roxanne

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> Hi all,

> I am looking for input from those who have had experience (or have seen

others)with significant weight loss. I have a lot of hormonal/endocrine issues

and have been struggling to lose weight. They only thing that " works " for me in

my experience, is cutting calories to 800 or less. I really want to do things

the healthy way, so any advice is appreciated.

>

> I have tried the NT cookbook and Eat Fat, Lose Fat, but found myself

maintaining an obese weight rather than losing.

>