Re: Correlations and cluster brainstorming

[Guest guest]

Vaccinations!!!

Sharyn mother of 5 aspergers

Correlations and cluster brainstorming

Hi just brainstorming on some possible clues to what causes the riseof autism.Any comments welcomed.1. Any correlation on mothers who did/didn't breast feed?2. Any correlation of people who live in areas that their land wasformerly agricultural in the 50's where DDT and other pestisides wereused?3. Any correlation of folks who live near landfills (garbage dumps).4. Is there a cluster of autism in your community? Wondering ifresearchers see a higher concentration in certain geographical areasversus other areas in the country.5. Percentage of parents who used marijuana or other illegal drugsprior to child being born.I am not an expert but just trying to see if there is any thoughtprovoking points that can help all of us.

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Hi Becky,

Professor Simon Baron-Cohen at Cambridge university (UK) is researching into

a possible link with raised testosterone levels in utero caused by the

foetus itself. However, I believe he is also going to see if PCOS may be

involved in some cases. This is linked to his theory of the extreme male

brain in autism.

in England

[Guest guest]

None of these apply to me/us anywhere near the time of my pregnancy

or afterwards!

sorry

Rabecca

> Hi just brainstorming on some possible clues to what causes the rise

> of autism.

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> Any comments welcomed.

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> 1. Any correlation on mothers who did/didn't breast feed?

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> 2. Any correlation of people who live in areas that their land was

> formerly agricultural in the 50's where DDT and other pestisides

were

> used?

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> 3. Any correlation of folks who live near landfills (garbage dumps).

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> 4. Is there a cluster of autism in your community? Wondering if

> researchers see a higher concentration in certain geographical areas

> versus other areas in the country.

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> 5. Percentage of parents who used marijuana or other illegal drugs

> prior to child being born.

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> I am not an expert but just trying to see if there is any thought

> provoking points that can help all of us.

[Guest guest]

Tyler did have a hard time with his vaccinations too, and another son

of mine died three days after being vaccinated in 1989. He was 3

months, two days old...

Rabecca

> Vaccinations!!!

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> Sharyn mother of 5 aspergers

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry to hear about that Rabecca.

MISSY

SAHM to some special kids!!!

All kid's are gifted; some just open their packages

earlier than others.

-- Carr

Re: Correlations and cluster brainstorming

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> Tyler did have a hard time with his vaccinations too, and another son

> of mine died three days after being vaccinated in 1989. He was 3

> months, two days old...

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> Rabecca

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>> Vaccinations!!!

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>> Sharyn mother of 5 aspergers

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[Guest guest]

Becky,

I also have PCOS, to the point of having had one ovary finally burst

and taken out by emergency surgery. Though I am now on meds to

regulate the hormones (as my body still overproduces with the one

remaining ovary)they couldn't get my hormones under control during

pregnancy without risking my unborn son. At one point, my

testosterone levels were so high that I began growing facial hair and

had " typical male agression " symptoms. My body was covered with acne,

and my mental state wasn't in very good shape. I am just sooooo

incredibly glad that the doctors figured out how to get them back

under control (the loss of the one ovary sure helped)Anyway, I feel

for you! I had never thought of that possibly being a contributing

factor.

I also had inutero infections as well as vaginal infections during my

pregnancy that were bad enough to where the doctors recommended a

DNC, saying my son would most likely be blind, deaf, and possibly

brain affected. I refused (I had lost my first born less than a year

prior and couldn't handle the thought of conciously terminating this

one) I feel so blessed and lucky to have Tyler. He was born against

incredible odds and can see, hear, and is incredibly smart... So what

if he has AS, he is healthy!!! ~grins~

Rabecca

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I firmly believe that Alonzo is genetically autistic as I my cousin has to boys on the spectrum and there are many people on my Dad's side who are described as "eccentric", you know...what they USED to call aspergers I believe it is considered to be a double recessive gene so it must also be on dh's side, but he doesn't know half of his medical history.

sam orona <telebuddy@...> wrote:

Hi just brainstorming on some possible clues to what causes the riseof autism.Any comments welcomed.1. Any correlation on mothers who did/didn't breast feed?2. Any correlation of people who live in areas that their land wasformerly agricultural in the 50's where DDT and other pestisides wereused?3. Any correlation of folks who live near landfills (garbage dumps).4. Is there a cluster of autism in your community? Wondering ifresearchers see a higher concentration in certain geographical areasversus other areas in the country.5. Percentage of parents who used marijuana or other illegal drugsprior to child being born.I am not an expert but just trying to see if there is any thoughtprovoking points that can help all of us.__________________________________________________

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wrote:

>>I firmly believe that Alonzo is genetically autistic as I my cousin has to

boys on the spectrum and there are many people on my Dad's side who are

described as " eccentric " , you know...what they USED to call aspergers I

believe it is considered to be a double recessive gene so it must also be on

dh's side, but he doesn't know half of his medical history.<<

Current thinking is that there are maybe 12-20 genes involved with autism in

various combinations. Asperger's is definitely in my husbands's family (son,

husband, father-in-law, possibly brother-in-law, possibly grandfather-in-law

(based on husband's memory of him)). When my son was dx'd and we realised

that others in the family were also candidates there was a potential huge

rise in the number of cases!

sam orona <telebuddy@...> wrote:

Hi just brainstorming on some possible clues to what causes the rise

of autism.

Any comments welcomed.

1. Any correlation on mothers who did/didn't breast feed?

Both my NT daughter and my AS son were breast-fed. Both were full-term, but

my daughter was the one with a difficult birth.

2. Any correlation of people who live in areas that their land was

formerly agricultural in the 50's where DDT and other pestisides were

used?

Not that I'm aware of. Both daughter and son born in the same area, however

husband born 150 miles away and father-in-law born elsewhere still.

3. Any correlation of folks who live near landfills (garbage dumps).

Same comments as above.

4. Is there a cluster of autism in your community? Wondering if

researchers see a higher concentration in certain geographical areas

versus other areas in the country.

No but there's a cluster in my family.

5. Percentage of parents who used marijuana or other illegal drugs

prior to child being born.

Only drugs used were aspirin by myself and anti-histamines by my husband,

and caffeine by both of us. Never had any illegal drugs, never smoked,

scarcely drink alcohol.

And there is definitely nothing associated with vaccination in the family.

in England