Re: OT- HELP! Need to find a Ped that will support our lifestyle

[Guest guest]

Yeay! There is such a thing. I found a link!!!!! If any of you recommend any of

these docs let me know. Thanks.

http://www.holisticphysicians.info/

>

> I am so annoyed right now. I need a recommendation for a pediatrician PLEASE!

If those well-child checks weren't required, and I didn't have an adoption

agency following us for the next 4 years, I wouldn't bother with a doctor for my

son AT ALL! We are now filling out local paperwork with necessary doctor

signatures. My son lived in a hospital for the first 2 1/2 years of his life in

Peru. He's been immunized up the ying yang and was given antibiotics EVERY OTHER

MONTH of his life. Yes. That is right. I bring him home and the same shot-happy,

test happy doctor crap is happening here. On one of the forms it says if he has

been denied " NECESSARY medical care " and the @#$%^ writes that we refused the

customary immigrations labs. For real? Since when is customary necessary? Those

labs are for kids where the adoptive parents are NOT sure of the past medical

history, etc. etc. We have a detailed history and he was under medical attention

the WHOLE time. Then I asked her what specifically it finds. And she said it

sees if he has any kind of HEP. Woman. What part of he's been immunized for that

since day 1 do you not understand??????

>

> I need to find a doctor that will support my not wanting every little test out

there and that won't give me grief about not immunizing. Is there such a thing

as that? I'm not putting my kid's body through any more junk. PLEASE. Any

recommendations are highly appreciated. Thank you!!!!

>

>

> twincitieserrands@...

>

[Guest guest]

What part of town? I have a mainstream pediatrician in St /Eagan/Lake Elmo

who is fine with my refusal of (and delay for some) vaccines. She supports

extended breastfeeding and always compliments our family's nutrition when she

asks what they eat. We don't share everything so she doesn't truly know we

cosleep (though she knows we practice Attachment Parenting); I didn't overtly

tell her we do cranio sacral work and let our babies belly sleep (but I think

she knew). My girls have a congenital kidney problem routinely treated with ABX

but our pediatrician and pediatric urologist agreed to let me handle it

naturally. Each girl has had one breakthrough infection and we didn't get any

grief-just a fast ABX Rx to fix it and prevent kidney destruction. We've heard

that people who follow the daily AB8 protocol till age 4 easily have that many.

Anyway, I like her ( she has a lot of AP families). Dr. Saxton at

Pediatric and Young Adult Medicine. 651.227.7806 I think the website is pyam.org

(maybe .com).

This is a really tough one. I've said since becoming a parent I sort of wish I

was ignorant of nutrition and vaccines, etc. It's a lot to battle daily. We can

make whatever choices we want for ourselves but people get weird when we make

them for our kids.

e

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OT- HELP! Need to find a Ped that will support our lifestyle

I am so annoyed right now. I need a recommendation for a pediatrician PLEASE! If

those well-child checks weren't required, and I didn't have an adoption agency

following us for the next 4 years, I wouldn't bother with a doctor for my son AT

ALL! We are now filling out local paperwork with necessary doctor signatures. My

son lived in a hospital for the first 2 1/2 years of his life in Peru. He's been

immunized up the ying yang and was given antibiotics EVERY OTHER MONTH of his

life. Yes. That is right. I bring him home and the same shot-happy, test happy

doctor crap is happening here. On one of the forms it says if he has been denied

" NECESSARY medical care " and the @#$%^ writes that we refused the customary

immigrations labs. For real? Since when is customary necessary? Those labs are

for kids where the adoptive parents are NOT sure of the past medical history,

etc. etc. We have a detailed history and he was under medical attention the

WHOLE time. Then I asked her what specifically it finds. And she said it sees if

he has any kind of HEP. Woman. What part of he's been immunized for that since

day 1 do you not understand??????

I need to find a doctor that will support my not wanting every little test out

there and that won't give me grief about not immunizing. Is there such a thing

as that? I'm not putting my kid's body through any more junk. PLEASE. Any

recommendations are highly appreciated. Thank you!!!!

twincitieserrands@...

[Guest guest]

, blessings on you for giving a child a home. My heart aches for the

stupidity you're having to deal with. You might check with the Waldorf

school(s) in the area or Camphill Village MN They usually have connection

with a physician in tune with natural living, and parents whose concerns re

health are similar to yours. If you are able to get medical care via a

chiropractor recognized by the agency, that might be another resource, altho

it sounds like there's a huge rigid buy-in to the party line.

Hang in there! L

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:12 AM, twincitieserrands <

twincitieserrands@...> wrote:

> I am so annoyed right now. I need a recommendation for a pediatrician

> PLEASE! If those well-child checks weren't required, and I didn't have an

> adoption agency following us for the next 4 years, I wouldn't bother with a

> doctor for my son AT ALL! We are now filling out local paperwork with

> necessary doctor signatures. My son lived in a hospital for the first 2 1/2

> years of his life in Peru. He's been immunized up the ying yang and was

> given antibiotics EVERY OTHER MONTH of his life. Yes. That is right. I bring

> him home and the same shot-happy, test happy doctor crap is happening here.

> On one of the forms it says if he has been denied " NECESSARY medical care "

> and the @#$%^ writes that we refused the customary immigrations labs. For

> real? Since when is customary necessary? Those labs are for kids where the

> adoptive parents are NOT sure of the past medical history, etc. etc. We have

> a detailed history and he was under medical attention the WHOLE time. Then I

> asked her what specifically it finds. And she said it sees if he has any

> kind of HEP. Woman. What part of he's been immunized for that since day 1 do

> you not understand??????

>

> I need to find a doctor that will support my not wanting every little test

> out there and that won't give me grief about not immunizing. Is there such a

> thing as that? I'm not putting my kid's body through any more junk. PLEASE.

> Any recommendations are highly appreciated. Thank you!!!!

>

>

> twincitieserrands@...

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

I see Kate Birch. SHe practices classical homeopathy and for the last 8 years

has seen us through fevers, flus, headaches, puncture wounds from nails,

learning disabilities, behaviors and more. My kids only got antibiotics once

when there was some pneumonia but I think even then they recovered from the

remedies.

>

> > I am so annoyed right now. I need a recommendation for a pediatrician

> > PLEASE! If those well-child checks weren't required, and I didn't have an

> > adoption agency following us for the next 4 years, I wouldn't bother with a

> > doctor for my son AT ALL! We are now filling out local paperwork with

> > necessary doctor signatures. My son lived in a hospital for the first 2 1/2

> > years of his life in Peru. He's been immunized up the ying yang and was

> > given antibiotics EVERY OTHER MONTH of his life. Yes. That is right. I bring

> > him home and the same shot-happy, test happy doctor crap is happening here.

> > On one of the forms it says if he has been denied " NECESSARY medical care "

> > and the @#$%^ writes that we refused the customary immigrations labs. For

> > real? Since when is customary necessary? Those labs are for kids where the

> > adoptive parents are NOT sure of the past medical history, etc. etc. We have

> > a detailed history and he was under medical attention the WHOLE time. Then I

> > asked her what specifically it finds. And she said it sees if he has any

> > kind of HEP. Woman. What part of he's been immunized for that since day 1 do

> > you not understand??????

> >

> > I need to find a doctor that will support my not wanting every little test

> > out there and that won't give me grief about not immunizing. Is there such a

> > thing as that? I'm not putting my kid's body through any more junk. PLEASE.

> > Any recommendations are highly appreciated. Thank you!!!!

> >

> >

> > twincitieserrands@...

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I am sorry that you are having issues finding a pediatrician for your son. 

Carlson is a general practioner as far as I know, who was trained in the

trypical medical school, but has since gone back to school for holistic

medicine.  I looked him up on the internet, and he does practice at a clinic in

Minneapolis, I think it was the Penny Institute on Health and Healing. 

He also practices at the Allina clinic in Northfield.  I would recommend taking

a look at him.

On another note, and granted, I do not know the exact vaccines your son received

for Hep, but to my knowledge there are multiple strains of Hepatitis.  As far

as I know, only one or possibly two strains are covered by the vaccine.  I am

guessing the test the other Dr. was giving would have tested for more than just

the vaccinated strain.  The different strains work in different ways.  It is

my understanding that some can be treated and some can't.  Hepatitis is very

complex and I am not going to even try to pretend that I an am expert. 

However, I do know that even if the vaccine had been around when I was a baby,

it wouldn't have mattered.  My brother still would have died of Hepatitis at

age 3 because it was a strain that wasn't covered in the vaccine.

Best of luck to you and your family.

Jess

 

From: twincitieserrands <twincitieserrands@...>

Subject: OT- HELP! Need to find a Ped that will support our lifestyle

Date: Saturday, January 8, 2011, 11:12 PM

 

I am so annoyed right now. I need a recommendation for a pediatrician PLEASE! If

those well-child checks weren't required, and I didn't have an adoption agency

following us for the next 4 years, I wouldn't bother with a doctor for my son AT

ALL! We are now filling out local paperwork with necessary doctor signatures. My

son lived in a hospital for the first 2 1/2 years of his life in Peru. He's been

immunized up the ying yang and was given antibiotics EVERY OTHER MONTH of his

life. Yes. That is right. I bring him home and the same shot-happy, test happy

doctor crap is happening here. On one of the forms it says if he has been denied

" NECESSARY medical care " and the @#$%^ writes that we refused the customary

immigrations labs. For real? Since when is customary necessary? Those labs are

for kids where the adoptive parents are NOT sure of the past medical history,

etc. etc. We have a detailed history and he was under medical attention the

WHOLE time. Then I

asked her what specifically it finds. And she said it sees if he has any kind

of HEP. Woman. What part of he's been immunized for that since day 1 do you not

understand??????

I need to find a doctor that will support my not wanting every little test out

there and that won't give me grief about not immunizing. Is there such a thing

as that? I'm not putting my kid's body through any more junk. PLEASE. Any

recommendations are highly appreciated. Thank you!!!!

twincitieserrands@...

[Guest guest]

thank you, where is she located?

> >

> > > I am so annoyed right now. I need a recommendation for a pediatrician

> > > PLEASE! If those well-child checks weren't required, and I didn't have an

> > > adoption agency following us for the next 4 years, I wouldn't bother with

a

> > > doctor for my son AT ALL! We are now filling out local paperwork with

> > > necessary doctor signatures. My son lived in a hospital for the first 2

1/2

> > > years of his life in Peru. He's been immunized up the ying yang and was

> > > given antibiotics EVERY OTHER MONTH of his life. Yes. That is right. I

bring

> > > him home and the same shot-happy, test happy doctor crap is happening

here.

> > > On one of the forms it says if he has been denied " NECESSARY medical care "

> > > and the @#$%^ writes that we refused the customary immigrations labs. For

> > > real? Since when is customary necessary? Those labs are for kids where the

> > > adoptive parents are NOT sure of the past medical history, etc. etc. We

have

> > > a detailed history and he was under medical attention the WHOLE time. Then

I

> > > asked her what specifically it finds. And she said it sees if he has any

> > > kind of HEP. Woman. What part of he's been immunized for that since day 1

do

> > > you not understand??????

> > >

> > > I need to find a doctor that will support my not wanting every little test

> > > out there and that won't give me grief about not immunizing. Is there such

a

> > > thing as that? I'm not putting my kid's body through any more junk.

PLEASE.

> > > Any recommendations are highly appreciated. Thank you!!!!

> > >

> > >

> > > twincitieserrands@

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Thank you. I did find this website in my search last night. I'm going to check

him out. yeah. Just to give you a background. The doctor knew he didn't need it,

but because all the other kids get it, she wanted him to do it too. You know.

Just to put a few more hundred dollars in her pocket. He's been seen by 3

doctors in the last 4 months and all say he is in excellent health. Those tests

are usually for kids where there is no medical history and they have been found

undernourished and also very ill. If I had any incline that he may be sick, I

would make sure I would do anything and everything. Thanks so much all!!!! This

gives me a good idea of where to start. Even with people who won't harass me,

I'm still leery of telling them that we drink whole raw milk... etc. I just

don't think that maybe people/dr.'s get it.

>

>

> From: twincitieserrands <twincitieserrands@...>

> Subject: OT- HELP! Need to find a Ped that will support our lifestyle

>

> Date: Saturday, January 8, 2011, 11:12 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> I am so annoyed right now. I need a recommendation for a pediatrician PLEASE!

If those well-child checks weren't required, and I didn't have an adoption

agency following us for the next 4 years, I wouldn't bother with a doctor for my

son AT ALL! We are now filling out local paperwork with necessary doctor

signatures. My son lived in a hospital for the first 2 1/2 years of his life in

Peru. He's been immunized up the ying yang and was given antibiotics EVERY OTHER

MONTH of his life. Yes. That is right. I bring him home and the same shot-happy,

test happy doctor crap is happening here. On one of the forms it says if he has

been denied " NECESSARY medical care " and the @#$%^ writes that we refused the

customary immigrations labs. For real? Since when is customary necessary? Those

labs are for kids where the adoptive parents are NOT sure of the past medical

history, etc. etc. We have a detailed history and he was under medical attention

the WHOLE time. Then I

> asked her what specifically it finds. And she said it sees if he has any kind

of HEP. Woman. What part of he's been immunized for that since day 1 do you not

understand??????

>

> I need to find a doctor that will support my not wanting every little test out

there and that won't give me grief about not immunizing. Is there such a thing

as that? I'm not putting my kid's body through any more junk. PLEASE. Any

recommendations are highly appreciated. Thank you!!!!

>

>

> twincitieserrands@...

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm in Brooklyn Center. That's a little far. But I'm going to be researching my

options carefully and interviewing and visiting. I am willing to drive an hour

away if I have to. Thanks!!!

>

> What part of town? I have a mainstream pediatrician in St /Eagan/Lake Elmo

who is fine with my refusal of (and delay for some) vaccines. She supports

extended breastfeeding and always compliments our family's nutrition when she

asks what they eat. We don't share everything so she doesn't truly know we

cosleep (though she knows we practice Attachment Parenting); I didn't overtly

tell her we do cranio sacral work and let our babies belly sleep (but I think

she knew). My girls have a congenital kidney problem routinely treated with ABX

but our pediatrician and pediatric urologist agreed to let me handle it

naturally. Each girl has had one breakthrough infection and we didn't get any

grief-just a fast ABX Rx to fix it and prevent kidney destruction. We've heard

that people who follow the daily AB8 protocol till age 4 easily have that many.

>

> Anyway, I like her ( she has a lot of AP families). Dr. Saxton at

Pediatric and Young Adult Medicine. 651.227.7806 I think the website is pyam.org

(maybe .com).

>

> This is a really tough one. I've said since becoming a parent I sort of wish I

was ignorant of nutrition and vaccines, etc. It's a lot to battle daily. We can

make whatever choices we want for ourselves but people get weird when we make

them for our kids.

>

> e

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

> OT- HELP! Need to find a Ped that will support our lifestyle

>

> I am so annoyed right now. I need a recommendation for a pediatrician PLEASE!

If those well-child checks weren't required, and I didn't have an adoption

agency following us for the next 4 years, I wouldn't bother with a doctor for my

son AT ALL! We are now filling out local paperwork with necessary doctor

signatures. My son lived in a hospital for the first 2 1/2 years of his life in

Peru. He's been immunized up the ying yang and was given antibiotics EVERY OTHER

MONTH of his life. Yes. That is right. I bring him home and the same shot-happy,

test happy doctor crap is happening here. On one of the forms it says if he has

been denied " NECESSARY medical care " and the @#$%^ writes that we refused the

customary immigrations labs. For real? Since when is customary necessary? Those

labs are for kids where the adoptive parents are NOT sure of the past medical

history, etc. etc. We have a detailed history and he was under medical attention

the WHOLE time. Then I asked her what specifically it finds. And she said it

sees if he has any kind of HEP. Woman. What part of he's been immunized for that

since day 1 do you not understand??????

>

> I need to find a doctor that will support my not wanting every little test out

there and that won't give me grief about not immunizing. Is there such a thing

as that? I'm not putting my kid's body through any more junk. PLEASE. Any

recommendations are highly appreciated. Thank you!!!!

>

>

> twincitieserrands@...

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I know about the raw milk drinking thing.  I have been selective and usually

only say something when people are at our house and then I inform them that it

is raw milk.  Most people who are at our house are okay with it, but some

aren't and they have the option to drink something else.

My SIL is probably the most " interesting " about it.  She refuses to eat

anything (and I mean ANYTHING) at our house.  We do grass-fed beef, our own

eggs, broilers, the raw milk thing, homemade yogurt, etc.  My mom gave my

brother a dozen brown free range eggs to take home with him.  My SIL gave them

to the neighbors because she didn't eat " farm " eggs.  I tried to give them some

grass-fed hamburger for Christmas, and she didn't want it.  " We buy all our

hamburger at Greg's, so I don't want that stuff. "   We just smile and shake out

heads.

Anyway, good luck.  Sounds like your son is doing well and is in a great home!

Jess

From: twincitieserrands <twincitieserrands@...>

Subject: Re: OT- HELP! Need to find a Ped that will support our lifestyle

Date: Sunday, January 9, 2011, 4:20 PM

 

Thank you. I did find this website in my search last night. I'm going to check

him out. yeah. Just to give you a background. The doctor knew he didn't need it,

but because all the other kids get it, she wanted him to do it too. You know.

Just to put a few more hundred dollars in her pocket. He's been seen by 3

doctors in the last 4 months and all say he is in excellent health. Those tests

are usually for kids where there is no medical history and they have been found

undernourished and also very ill. If I had any incline that he may be sick, I

would make sure I would do anything and everything. Thanks so much all!!!! This

gives me a good idea of where to start. Even with people who won't harass me,

I'm still leery of telling them that we drink whole raw milk... etc. I just

don't think that maybe people/dr.'s get it.

>

>

> From: twincitieserrands <twincitieserrands@...>

> Subject: OT- HELP! Need to find a Ped that will support our lifestyle

>

> Date: Saturday, January 8, 2011, 11:12 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> I am so annoyed right now. I need a recommendation for a pediatrician PLEASE!

If those well-child checks weren't required, and I didn't have an adoption

agency following us for the next 4 years, I wouldn't bother with a doctor for my

son AT ALL! We are now filling out local paperwork with necessary doctor

signatures. My son lived in a hospital for the first 2 1/2 years of his life in

Peru. He's been immunized up the ying yang and was given antibiotics EVERY OTHER

MONTH of his life. Yes. That is right. I bring him home and the same shot-happy,

test happy doctor crap is happening here. On one of the forms it says if he has

been denied " NECESSARY medical care " and the @#$%^ writes that we refused the

customary immigrations labs. For real? Since when is customary necessary? Those

labs are for kids where the adoptive parents are NOT sure of the past medical

history, etc. etc. We have a detailed history and he was under medical attention

the WHOLE time. Then

I

> asked her what specifically it finds. And she said it sees if he has any kind

of HEP. Woman. What part of he's been immunized for that since day 1 do you not

understand??????

>

> I need to find a doctor that will support my not wanting every little test out

there and that won't give me grief about not immunizing. Is there such a thing

as that? I'm not putting my kid's body through any more junk. PLEASE. Any

recommendations are highly appreciated. Thank you!!!!

>

>

> twincitieserrands@...

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm glad to see you might be broadening your search for a holistically-minded

person to help with your child. Finding a " Holistic Pediatrician " is most likely

an oxymoronic search, as there really is NO ROOM whatsoever in the legal

operating parameters of ANY specialist. They are much more to be locked into

" the box " than the average medical person. Most specialist got into that box

intentionally because that is how they prefer to think!

But really, there is nothing that being a " pediatrician " guarantees with

regard to being a healer or a person who can truly and artistically diagnose and

treat a child. Holism and Specialism are opposite ends of the spectrum. We are

lucky to have a few enlightened endocrinologists who can step out of the box,

but I have rarely heard of any other so-called specialists who dare. I prefer

the holistic healer.

My favorite definition of a specialist is one " who knows more and more about

less and less until they know everything about nothing " . (I KNOW.... a

" generalist " (me) is one who knows less and less about more and more until

they know nothing about everything " . They also say that pathologists are the

only ones who " know everything about everything, but it's always too late! " )

Will Winter

[Guest guest]

Kate Birch

http://www.wholehealthnow.com/homeopathy_pro/kate-birch.html

> > >

> > > > I am so annoyed right now. I need a recommendation for a pediatrician

> > > > PLEASE! If those well-child checks weren't required, and I didn't have

an

> > > > adoption agency following us for the next 4 years, I wouldn't bother

with a

> > > > doctor for my son AT ALL! We are now filling out local paperwork with

> > > > necessary doctor signatures. My son lived in a hospital for the first 2

1/2

> > > > years of his life in Peru. He's been immunized up the ying yang and was

> > > > given antibiotics EVERY OTHER MONTH of his life. Yes. That is right. I

bring

> > > > him home and the same shot-happy, test happy doctor crap is happening

here.

> > > > On one of the forms it says if he has been denied " NECESSARY medical

care "

> > > > and the @#$%^ writes that we refused the customary immigrations labs.

For

> > > > real? Since when is customary necessary? Those labs are for kids where

the

> > > > adoptive parents are NOT sure of the past medical history, etc. etc. We

have

> > > > a detailed history and he was under medical attention the WHOLE time.

Then I

> > > > asked her what specifically it finds. And she said it sees if he has any

> > > > kind of HEP. Woman. What part of he's been immunized for that since day

1 do

> > > > you not understand??????

> > > >

> > > > I need to find a doctor that will support my not wanting every little

test

> > > > out there and that won't give me grief about not immunizing. Is there

such a

> > > > thing as that? I'm not putting my kid's body through any more junk.

PLEASE.

> > > > Any recommendations are highly appreciated. Thank you!!!!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > twincitieserrands@

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Yes. I know. I'm not a fan of conventional medicine. And that's why I want to

feed us well. So that we don't get sick. My first thought when there is some

sort of illness is to call Herbs Unlimited. They've always been really

helpful. I also just got a book on essential oils. Isn't there a class I can

take on this? Reading and figuring it out is soooo hard.

I wouldn't be going to a m.d. period. If I had a choice. Unfortunately, MN law

says that you have to do well-child check-ups... Is it until 5 or 6? And we are

being " followed " for the next 4 years of our life by agencies. So sad. But I

think I have found a few. Here are the questions I asked:

1. What is your stance on immunization and what if a parent doesn't want their

child immunized?

2. When I go in because my child is really, really sick will you prescribe

holistic healing options!!! This is so important for me. Because I don't know a

lot.

3. What is your thought on traditional foods and raw, non-pasteurized milk

products, etc. Will I get a hard time for choosing to feed my family these

thing?

All the responses made me really, really happy!!! I know that these doctors are

m.d's first. And that they are registered holistic practitioners... But I know

that they're going to do what conventional medicine says today. I don't agree

with that. But as long as I am not being ridiculed or pressured by a doctor, I

am ok. That's really, really hard to find...

btw. Will. I'm so dense. I added 1 cup of vinegar to my first batch instead of

1/2 c of vinegar. I misread the instructions. And you told me to follow them

very carefully. I can't believe it. Someone said it will just be good starter.

It tastes just like vinegar. It's ruined right? Would I have killed the scoby by

adding that much vinegar? another btw. Your kombucha is 100% better than store

bought. And my husband and kid both liked it!!! I want to brew mine EXACTLY as

you do. It's so tasty. My body is constantly craving it. I went and bought some

while mine was still brewing and now I think I have to start over. ;( Thanks for

everything. You're the best!!!

>

> I'm glad to see you might be broadening your search for a holistically-minded

person to help with your child. Finding a " Holistic Pediatrician " is most likely

an oxymoronic search, as there really is NO ROOM whatsoever in the legal

operating parameters of ANY specialist. They are much more to be locked into

" the box " than the average medical person. Most specialist got into that box

intentionally because that is how they prefer to think!

>

> But really, there is nothing that being a " pediatrician " guarantees with

regard to being a healer or a person who can truly and artistically diagnose and

treat a child. Holism and Specialism are opposite ends of the spectrum. We are

lucky to have a few enlightened endocrinologists who can step out of the box,

but I have rarely heard of any other so-called specialists who dare. I prefer

the holistic healer.

>

> My favorite definition of a specialist is one " who knows more and more about

less and less until they know everything about nothing " . (I KNOW.... a

" generalist " (me) is one who knows less and less about more and more until

they know nothing about everything " . They also say that pathologists are the

only ones who " know everything about everything, but it's always too late! " )

>

> Will Winter

>

[Guest guest]

thank you

> > > >

> > > > > I am so annoyed right now. I need a recommendation for a pediatrician

> > > > > PLEASE! If those well-child checks weren't required, and I didn't have

an

> > > > > adoption agency following us for the next 4 years, I wouldn't bother

with a

> > > > > doctor for my son AT ALL! We are now filling out local paperwork with

> > > > > necessary doctor signatures. My son lived in a hospital for the first

2 1/2

> > > > > years of his life in Peru. He's been immunized up the ying yang and

was

> > > > > given antibiotics EVERY OTHER MONTH of his life. Yes. That is right. I

bring

> > > > > him home and the same shot-happy, test happy doctor crap is happening

here.

> > > > > On one of the forms it says if he has been denied " NECESSARY medical

care "

> > > > > and the @#$%^ writes that we refused the customary immigrations labs.

For

> > > > > real? Since when is customary necessary? Those labs are for kids where

the

> > > > > adoptive parents are NOT sure of the past medical history, etc. etc.

We have

> > > > > a detailed history and he was under medical attention the WHOLE time.

Then I

> > > > > asked her what specifically it finds. And she said it sees if he has

any

> > > > > kind of HEP. Woman. What part of he's been immunized for that since

day 1 do

> > > > > you not understand??????

> > > > >

> > > > > I need to find a doctor that will support my not wanting every little

test

> > > > > out there and that won't give me grief about not immunizing. Is there

such a

> > > > > thing as that? I'm not putting my kid's body through any more junk.

PLEASE.

> > > > > Any recommendations are highly appreciated. Thank you!!!!

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > twincitieserrands@

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

,

Wow. I can't believe she's that overtly against it. So weird. Most of my friends

think I'm goofy. But they are supportive. And guess who they come to for

natural remedies. Not that I know a ton.... It's so funny. Cause I'm pretty

straight-laced, except for in health and food issues. But they still kinda

consider me a hippy. Without necessarily saying it to my face. I will tease

around with them about it. Because anytime they make fun, I always prove them

wrong. Last year my friend had a severe case of colitis. I stopped over and

started giving her a few of my natural concoctions and showed her info on it to

follow. And immediately she felt better. In about a week the colitis had

completely, completely gone away. I want to learn so much more. Besides bone

broth for colds and now my starting kombucha, I don't have a ton of knowledge.

But I want to. I haven't had anyone that against my ideas though. That's a

little bit of a nuisance for you, I'm sure. Thank you!!!

-

> >

> >

> > From: twincitieserrands <twincitieserrands@>

> > Subject: OT- HELP! Need to find a Ped that will support our lifestyle

> >

> > Date: Saturday, January 8, 2011, 11:12 PM

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > I am so annoyed right now. I need a recommendation for a pediatrician

PLEASE! If those well-child checks weren't required, and I didn't have an

adoption agency following us for the next 4 years, I wouldn't bother with a

doctor for my son AT ALL! We are now filling out local paperwork with necessary

doctor signatures. My son lived in a hospital for the first 2 1/2 years of his

life in Peru. He's been immunized up the ying yang and was given antibiotics

EVERY OTHER MONTH of his life. Yes. That is right. I bring him home and the same

shot-happy, test happy doctor crap is happening here. On one of the forms it

says if he has been denied " NECESSARY medical care " and the @#$%^ writes that we

refused the customary immigrations labs. For real? Since when is customary

necessary? Those labs are for kids where the adoptive parents are NOT sure of

the past medical history, etc. etc. We have a detailed history and he was under

medical attention the WHOLE time. Then

> I

> > asked her what specifically it finds. And she said it sees if he has any

kind of HEP. Woman. What part of he's been immunized for that since day 1 do you

not understand??????

> >

> > I need to find a doctor that will support my not wanting every little test

out there and that won't give me grief about not immunizing. Is there such a

thing as that? I'm not putting my kid's body through any more junk. PLEASE. Any

recommendations are highly appreciated. Thank you!!!!

> >

> >

> > twincitieserrands@

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

For a fabulous " green " pediatrician who is able to think " outside the

specialist box, " log on to Dr. Alan Green's web site: http://www.drgreene.com/

Dr. Alan Green spoke at the MOSES organic conference in LaCrosse a few

years back and I had an opportunity to visit with him after his

presentation. He's on the right track; got credentials, track record

and guts; and if I read him right, a great deal of integrity. His

book, " Feeding Baby Green " might help a lot of us to avoid " the

standard and customary " health care that tends to be about neither.

M. Otten, Natura Farms

On Jan 10, 2011, at 1:09 PM, twincitieserrands wrote:

> Yes. I know. I'm not a fan of conventional medicine. And that's why

> I want to feed us well. So that we don't get sick. My first thought

> when there is some sort of illness is to call Herbs Unlimited.

> They've always been really helpful. I also just got a book on

> essential oils. Isn't there a class I can take on this? Reading and

> figuring it out is soooo hard.

>

> I wouldn't be going to a m.d. period. If I had a choice.

> Unfortunately, MN law says that you have to do well-child check-

> ups... Is it until 5 or 6? And we are being " followed " for the next

> 4 years of our life by agencies. So sad. But I think I have found a

> few. Here are the questions I asked:

>

> 1. What is your stance on immunization and what if a parent doesn't

> want their child immunized?

> 2. When I go in because my child is really, really sick will you

> prescribe holistic healing options!!! This is so important for me.

> Because I don't know a lot.

> 3. What is your thought on traditional foods and raw, non-

> pasteurized milk products, etc. Will I get a hard time for choosing

> to feed my family these thing?

>

> All the responses made me really, really happy!!! I know that these

> doctors are m.d's first. And that they are registered holistic

> practitioners... But I know that they're going to do what

> conventional medicine says today. I don't agree with that. But as

> long as I am not being ridiculed or pressured by a doctor, I am ok.

> That's really, really hard to find...

>

> btw. Will. I'm so dense. I added 1 cup of vinegar to my first batch

> instead of 1/2 c of vinegar. I misread the instructions. And you

> told me to follow them very carefully. I can't believe it. Someone

> said it will just be good starter. It tastes just like vinegar. It's

> ruined right? Would I have killed the scoby by adding that much

> vinegar? another btw. Your kombucha is 100% better than store

> bought. And my husband and kid both liked it!!! I want to brew mine

> EXACTLY as you do. It's so tasty. My body is constantly craving it.

> I went and bought some while mine was still brewing and now I think

> I have to start over. ;( Thanks for everything. You're the best!!!

>

>

> >

> > I'm glad to see you might be broadening your search for a

> holistically-minded person to help with your child. Finding a

> " Holistic Pediatrician " is most likely an oxymoronic search, as

> there really is NO ROOM whatsoever in the legal operating parameters

> of ANY specialist. They are much more to be locked into " the box "

> than the average medical person. Most specialist got into that box

> intentionally because that is how they prefer to think!

> >

> > But really, there is nothing that being a " pediatrician "

> guarantees with regard to being a healer or a person who can truly

> and artistically diagnose and treat a child. Holism and Specialism

> are opposite ends of the spectrum. We are lucky to have a few

> enlightened endocrinologists who can step out of the box, but I have

> rarely heard of any other so-called specialists who dare. I prefer

> the holistic healer.

> >

> > My favorite definition of a specialist is one " who knows more and

> more about less and less until they know everything about nothing " .

> (I KNOW.... a " generalist " (me) is one who knows less and less about

> more and more until they know nothing about everything " . They also

> say that pathologists are the only ones who " know everything about

> everything, but it's always too late! " )

> >

> > Will Winter

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

OPPS, I forgot about HOLISTIC PEDIATRICIAN Dr.Alan Greene! And, yes, , I

was there with you and the rest of the totally stunned audience at MOSES that

year. Dr. Greene blew us all away. I've given away about 20 of the audio CDs

from that keynote address. In fact, my friend Barry , of Organic Voices

(www.organicvoices.com) sells the CD for a small fee and I promise it to be one

of the most profound ways you will ever spend an hour of your time! Whether you

have children or not, you will never forget his words. The book is wonderful

too (www.drgreene.com), Thanks !

Will Winter

[Guest guest]

Thanks you both for this information. I went to his website. amazing!!!! I

bookmarked it because I have a feeling I will be checking it a lot. Thank you!!!

>

> OPPS, I forgot about HOLISTIC PEDIATRICIAN Dr.Alan Greene! And, yes, , I

was there with you and the rest of the totally stunned audience at MOSES that

year. Dr. Greene blew us all away. I've given away about 20 of the audio CDs

from that keynote address. In fact, my friend Barry , of Organic Voices

(www.organicvoices.com) sells the CD for a small fee and I promise it to be one

of the most profound ways you will ever spend an hour of your time! Whether you

have children or not, you will never forget his words. The book is wonderful

too (www.drgreene.com), Thanks !

>

> Will Winter

>

[Guest guest]

Wow. I could walk there. I just found the site. Thank you!!!!

http://www.healthline.com/doctors/family-practice-physician/ida-rosebrock-rapacz\

/15321583

>

>

>

> Dr Ida Rapaz is up in your direction. She homebirthed her two

kids,extended BF and has her own chickens!!!

>

> I am sorry I do not have her contact info at the moment.

>

>

>