Guest guest Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 I found this article troubling at best… for just a couple reasons… Should the national government be gathering and keeping individual information on mental health tests on our children? What about parent rights? Shouldn’t parents have the right to opt out or choose their own examiner? What about those without insurance? Do they have to pay for the expensive mental health screenings, even the ones whose children seem perfectly healthy? What happens if a child is misdiagnosed? Does their information ever get corrected or just added on to? What is the government going to do with this information? Will the children be stigmatized later in life due to a “possible” diagnosis earlier in life that may or may not have been correct? What if a child receives a diagnosis and the parents do not believe he/she needs medication but rather other interventions? Do they have the right to opt out of the medication? Will parents who opt out of the medication be prosecuted or with child protective services be called in to intervene? To what end are they doing this? Is it really for the good of the people or does the government have ulterior motives for the information they are gathering… Don’t get me wrong… I am all for mental screenings being available for those who want them/need them, and that medications should be available for those who NEED them… My concern is the mandatory portions of this, the elimination of choice and parental rights, as well as the assumption that if a child is “diagnosed”, that automatically means they need to be medicated… Any thoughts??? Rabecca No child left unmedicated Phyllis Schlafly November 23, 2004 Big Brother is on the march. A plan to subject all children to mental health screening is under way, and pharmaceutical companies are gearing up for bigger sales of psychotropic drugs. Like most liberal big-spending ideas, this one was slipped into the law under cover of soft semantics. Its genesis was the New Freedom Commission on Mental Health created by President W. Bush in 2002. The commission recommends " routine and comprehensive " testing and mental health screening for every child in the United States, including preschoolers. The president has instructed 25 federal agencies to develop a plan to implement the commission's recommendations. The commission proposes using electronic medical records for mental health interrogation of both children and adults for mental illnesses in school and during routine physical exams. The commission also recommends integrating electronic health records and personal health information systems. It recommends " linkage " of these mental examinations with " state-of-the-art treatments " using " specific medications for specific conditions. " That means prescribing more expensive patented antidepressants and antipsychotic drugs. Illinois became the first state to jump on board. By near-unanimous votes in 2003, the General Assembly passed the $10 million Illinois Children's Mental Health Act creating a Children's Mental Health Partnership, which is expected to become a model for other states. The partnership's plan, released July 16, calls for periodic social and emotional developmental examinations to be administered to all children, and for all women to be interrogated for depression during pregnancy and up to a year postpartum. When the partnership showcased this plan with five public hearings stacked with bureaucrats and social service workers, a political tempest erupted, with state legislators saying they had no idea this was what they had voted for. Illinois legislators were shocked to hear the details. The plan includes periodic developmental exams for children ages 0-18 years, a statewide data-reporting system to track information on each child, social-emotional development screens with all mandated school exams in kindergarten, fourth grade and ninth grade, and report cards on children's social-emotional development. The plan is to add mental health assessment to the state's physical examination certificate, along with mandatory immunization records. All children in Illinois, unless religiously exempt, are required to have up-to-date health examinations and immunizations for school entry. The partnership requires the Illinois State Board of Education to develop and implement a plan that incorporates social and emotional standards as part of the mandated Illinois Learning Standards, which are due on Democratic Gov. Rod Blagojevich's desk by Dec. 31. This inevitably opens up screening for politically incorrect attitudes and nonconformity with liberal attitudes of tolerance. Mental health diagnoses are inherently subjective and social constructions, as even the diagnostic manuals admit. Many thousands, if not millions, of children would receive stigmatizing diagnoses that would follow them for the rest of their lives. " State-of-the-art treatments " will result in many thousands of children being medicated by expensive, ineffective, and dangerous drugs. The long-term safety and effectiveness of psychiatric medications on children have never been proven. The side effects of suggested medications in children are severe. They include suicide, violence, psychosis, cardiac toxicity, and growth suppression. Several school shooters, such as (Columbine) and Kip Kinkel (Oregon) had been on antidepressants or stimulants when they committed their crimes. The validity of much scientific research has lost its credibility because the Food and Drug Administration has allowed the pharmaceutical industry to withhold data not favorable to their products and because people in the pay of the pharmaceutical companies are the ones recommending medications. The current controversy about links between suicide and antidepressant drugs that have not been adequately tested has contributed to the uproar. The FDA posted an analysis in August that some antidepressants pose a risk of suicide in children. Parental rights are unclear or nonexistent under these mental screening programs. What are the rights of youth and parents to refuse or opt out of mental screening? Will they face coercion and threats of removal from school, or child neglect charges, if they refuse privacy-invading interrogations or unproved medications? How will a child remove a stigmatizing label from his records? A Columbia University pilot project of screening students called TeenScreen resulted in one-third being flagged as " positive " for mental health problems, and half of those being turned over for mental health treatment. If this is preview of what would happen when 52 million public school students are screened, it would mean hanging a libelous label on 17 million American children and putting 8 million children into the hands of the psychiatric/pharmaceutical industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 I never listen to anything Phyllis Schafly either writes or says. She's a right-wing nut, IMHO. Notice how she used so many loaded words in this article? Like " interrogate " in reference to kids and pregnant women? And " Big Brother " ? Please. In Phyllis' world, anything a Democrat comes up with is automatically suspect, and liberal is a dirty word (why is that?). I quit paying attention to her when she did that Eagle Forum thing telling all women they should stay home and raise kids, all the while leaving her kids and husband in the care of someone else while she went on interminable speaking tours. Can you say " hypocrite? " I thought you could. Sorry, folks, but this woman just rubs my fur the wrong direction. Annie, who loves ya annie@... -- Every person is responsible for all the good within the scope of his abilities, and for no more, and none can tell whose sphere is the largest. Gail Hamilton (1833-1896) - Humorist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 Hi , > > This is incorrect. No one can force anyone to take > drugs unless they are admitted to a mental > institution. Again something else that is blown out of > the water that is getting people all worked up for > nothing. Pish pash > I swear...people are not happy unless they have > something to bitch about.. > I think you will find this is correct actually. There has just been a truly disturbing prograame shown here about how children in NY (black of course), whose mother died of AIDS, are being forced to take whole cocktails of drugs, even though it has been shown they don't need them. These are resulting in terrible skin conditions and all manner of serious problems, but if anyone tries to stop it they are being called child abusers and the child is taken into care. Then the authorities do as they wish. They are using these children as human guinea pigs. in England Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 Annie, ~laughing~ I had never heard of her or the issue before I read this... and through her eyes, the sky is falling and the free world is about to come to an end!!! Thanks for setting the record straight!!! ~hugs~ Rabecca > I never listen to anything Phyllis Schafly either writes or says. She's > a right-wing nut, IMHO. Notice how she used so many loaded words in > this article? Like " interrogate " in reference to kids and pregnant > women? And " Big Brother " ? Please. In Phyllis' world, anything a > Democrat comes up with is automatically suspect, and liberal is a dirty > word (why is that?). I quit paying attention to her when she did that > Eagle Forum thing telling all women they should stay home and raise > kids, all the while leaving her kids and husband in the care of someone > else while she went on interminable speaking tours. Can you say > " hypocrite? " I thought you could. > > Sorry, folks, but this woman just rubs my fur the wrong direction. > > Annie, who loves ya annie@r... > -- > Every person is responsible for all the good within the scope of his > abilities, and for no more, and none can tell whose sphere is the > largest. Gail Hamilton (1833-1896) - Humorist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 , As a foster parent and as a childcare provider here in Oregon, I not only have seen kids that have been taken into custody due to parents refusal to medicate, but we are trained to watch for this and to report it (it is called medical neglect here). They may not be able to force you to feed the medications to your child, but they can take him or her away if they deem it medically nessissary and you refuse... ~hugs~ Rabecca > Hi , > > > > This is incorrect. No one can force anyone to take > > drugs unless they are admitted to a mental > > institution. Again something else that is blown out of > > the water that is getting people all worked up for > > nothing. Pish pash > > I swear...people are not happy unless they have > > something to bitch about.. > > > > I think you will find this is correct actually. There has just been a truly > disturbing prograame shown here about how children in NY (black of course), > whose mother died of AIDS, are being forced to take whole cocktails of > drugs, even though it has been shown they don't need them. These are > resulting in terrible skin conditions and all manner of serious problems, > but if anyone tries to stop it they are being called child abusers and the > child is taken into care. Then the authorities do as they wish. They are > using these children as human guinea pigs. > > in England Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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