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Oh, Laurel,

This sounds so familiar. I began macrobiotics in January. In late

February or March, I began having pain. They ran all kinds of

tests. All were negative. All they could think of was gallbladder

but all those tests were also negative. They did one test where you

had to be in the middle of the pain for them to do it. I was in

agony. The test was negative.

Ginger compresses helped a little but no one could tell me what was

going on and I didn't know what to try.

I finally was having attacks so bad I was ready to hand them the

knife and without anesthesia let them cut anything out they could

think of. They decided to remove the gallbladder. What they found

was it was full of sand like particles. The bile duct from the liver

was having spasms for some unknown reason, and continues to do so

today. If this sand was in the duct when it spasmed, it was agony

for me. Now, when it spasms, I have a bearable sharp pain, until it

relaxes.

I was very new to macrobiotics at the time. If I knew then what I

know now, I would see that was a natural cleansing my body was doing

and I may have tried a liver gallbladder flush first before going

through the surgery. If I had seen it as a natural cleansing and

knew there was no infection or serious problem, I might have tried to

ride out the pain for a bit longer to see if the liver would clear

itself. A friend of mine had classic gallbladder symptoms about 18

months after beginning macrobiotics and she chose to do the flush.

It dislodged several stones, she avoided surgery and then felt fine.

My problem was that the symptoms were not classic. One of the tests

was that one day I had to eat stuff like grilled cheese sandwiches to

stimulate an attack. I felt fine all day. According to the surgeon,

the sand was constantly moving through the duct, it was only during a

spasm that I had symptoms. So there were no blockages or sizeable

stones that could be seen on x-rays, etc. (I still have a small

container of the black sand around here somewhere.)

I would not say this is your problem, but you may want to consider it.

Jo-Ann

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> Hi,

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> I need some good macro advice.? I've been having this problem with

> nausea, diarrhea and abdominal pain for the last two months, and my

> doctors have ruled out pretty much everything except gall bladder

> problems.? He says if that is the problem, I would probably have to

> have my gall bladder removed.? I really don't like that option, but

am

> tired of being in pain all the time.

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> I've been loosely following a macro diet for years, but got much

more

> serious about it in May, and lost 35 lbs. over a six month period by

> cutting out all sweets, eating more vegetables and chewing my food

> better.? My doctors don't think I have stones because I had a CT

scan

> yesterday and none showed up, but I'm having a hidascan on Monday to

> find out more.?

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> Have any of you experienced anything like this, and do you have any

recommendations for me?

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> Thanks so much,

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> Laurel

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