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Hi again , My father is getting on in years and all he wants to do is get rid of all the possessions he has - he is constantly saying he wants nothing. But the present that's always loved is family pictures, put on different items - one year my husband made a calendar with different pictures for each month - this year when he went to visit his folks, he brought cups with pictures on them. One year I found a very cheap picture frame that was in a scrabble kind of background, (my Dad loves scrabble) - and pillows are always so nice and practical to have pictures on. , there are lots of sites on the computer for how to save money, how to do homemade things, etc - I admit I haven't been reading them lately (just the mb groups is enough for me) but I can forward you the next one I see if you'd like - I believe that's where I posted about the freecycle site - did you read that one?? I'm sure they'd be posting ideas about now -

also flylady would post that kind of thing - kind of late for this year, but some people posted how they look for sales all year long and put the items aside, so when the holidays come, it's mostly done. I'm not that organized, but always thought that very clever. Klaraandrea turner <adturner132003@...> wrote: Oh, so true. I really really

need to get into counseling with , I know this stuff will come so easily once I am in the mindset of thinking that way. Money and time, money and time, money and time....I guess once I no longer have my health these things will mean nothing right? And speaking of money I am feeling the pressure of the holidays coming up. Does anyone have traditional (or not so traditional) gifts that they give to their family members? Last year we didn't do gifts, and this year we have all decided to, but don't want to get sucked into the traditional "junk" that we usually end up giving and getting. I know that is off topic, but I just thought that I might get some neat ideas here. [sPAM][VeganMacrobi otics] Vita-mix This is really an

offbeat question, as are most of mine I guess, but does anyone here own or ever use a vita-mixer? I keep getting call after call, and now emails somehow about buying a vita-mixer and I wonder what the hype is all about? Or is it hype? Anyway, I need to somehow get off the constant call lists for this thing. Just wondering if anyone had some insight. ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __

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