Guest guest Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Kathy - Oh, have I been where you are... It just makes me sooooo mad. My son has Tourette's also. I remember during 5th grade when his teacher stopped the class and berated him in front of everyone for " rolling his eyes at her. " She actually perceived that my son who was afraid of his own shadow was throwing her an attitude and rolling his eyes AT HER. When I went in to speak with her about the incident - she procedure to wag her finger at me with the gyrating hips (as in a 17 year-old attitude) - I stopped her mid stream - I could have knocked her to the ground. I took a deep breath and told her I could not talk to her at the moment because I was so angry. You have to keep on top of it. Don't expect that because the teachers know she has " problems " that they will be compassionate and emphathetic. You must make your presence known. Constantly be in there " checking up. " Go to your principal/administrator - document the incidents and let them know this behavior will NOT be tolerated. You mentioned a 504 or IEP - Tread carefully... These are two different things. Do your research and be prepared. I think what really bothers me the most is had your daughter been in a wheelchair or blind, the comment most likely would not have been made to her. It's because our kids have disabilities that aren't always that apparent or visible to the " normal " person that they continue to be treated the way they are. I don't know that this will ever change, but until that time we as parents must be their " guardian angel " so to speak. Good luck and know you are not alone. In a message dated 10/17/2005 7:23:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, musicgirl9395@... writes: Good luck. Don't be scared to march in their and demand respectful treatment to your daughter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Hi Ellen, Yes, dealing with these teachers anymore is very hard. Unfortunately the school she is in is not considered a very good school. They have been through 3 principals in the last 3 - 4 years. Many problems in the past year or two as far as violence. It's a middle school with close to 3,000 kids in it. Very large. My daughter was recommended to be put in this program which is called " odyssey " and it was told to me that it would be great for her, more sheltered, and learning through hands on type things. Well, I now feel like she is in the wrong program. I discovered these classes have up to 80 kids in a room. Granted they have two teachers, but I think just that amount of kids has to be doing her in horribly. The kids are suppose to stay with the same teachers for the full 3 years in middle school ,so they form close relationships, and they are suppose to " prepare " the kids for " life " . I really want to put her in the normal school curriculum which I think would have more stability and repitition for her. This " oddyssey " program that she is in, is alot about responsibility teaching. They tell the children " no excuses " . Well, I'm sorry, there are plenty of excuses in our life. My daughter didn't do her reading one night, and the next day they made her call her and confess to me that she didn't do her reading. They do this with all the kids. I was livid. The two lead teachers in this program are football coaches and talk loud, and I believe they teach the class like they teach football. My daughter construes any loud voices basically as yelling and gets very nervous. I was so worried about my daughter being in middle school and felt this program would protect her, but I think it's made her worse. And now, changing after the school year, I just don't know if that would be good for her either. Gosh, I'm so confused. Thanks for listening!! Kathy > > Hi Kathy, > I do feel for you. It is so hard to watch our kids suffer. My > daughter seems a lot like yours with OCD/ADHD. Smell issues, > etc.... med issues...she is in 7th grade. Last year was the worst > for her. THis year has started off better, but I am not holding my > breath. > That is terrible what the teacher said and the other child too. I > think I would go right to the principal and have a heart to heart. I > did that last year and it got the ball rolling. My daughter has had > an IEP all along, luckily, but that doesn't mean that they do the > right thing. This year I decided to become the squeaky wheel and boy > am I squeaky!!! But they are listening. That's what I would do. It > is totally unacceptable for a teacher to talk to her that way. I > would bring in literature on how OCD is a stress related disorder and > they should be bending over backwards to reduce her stress. And have > ADHD on top of that makes it even harder. I told our school that in > severe cases children with OCD can become homebound. Well, the > school would be required to teach them. It is certainly in their > best interest to keep the child successful at school. > If you would ever like to correspond privately, I would love to, > since our daughters seem so similar. Let me know. Ellen > Good luck. Don't be scared to march in their and demand respectful > treatment to your daughter. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 Hi Kathy, Here's a link to finding charter schools in California. I don't think you have to go to one in your district. Let me know if the link doesn't work. I found it by doing a search on " California charter school " . http://profiles.cacharterschools.org/Action.Lasso?-Database=ProfilesSchools & -Lay\ out=Search & -Response=search.htm & -Show Charter schools are public schools, so they are free. Some are good; some aren't. Some aren't great academically, but are really good with students. The reverse is also true. If there are some close, you should be able to tour them and talk about what their philosophy is. Many do have a specific direction: Waldorf, high academics, working with ethnic groups, etc. Also, some private schools have good scholarships, although private doesn't make it necessarily any better. But just other thoughts. And one thing to let your daughter know, if it doesn't work out in a school change, she can always go back to the school she is in now. Since it is public, they have to take her back. -- Re: Re: Kathy - help me- >> >> >> > Hi Kathy - >> > >> > Don't have a lot of time right now, but what I mentioned about IEP > versus >> > 504 >> > - an IEP in my opinion holds the school more accountable - Is your >> > daughter >> > classified? With the Tourette's she can be classified OHI (Other > health >> > impaired) regardless of whether she has an actual identified learning >> > disability. >> > In my opinion, you'd probably be best served by having her > classified and >> > then >> > developing an IEP. A 504 would provide certain accomodations, but is >> > harder >> > to hold them (school) accountable with. >> > >> > I know it's hard and frustrating - I have three with various > " quirks. " >> > My >> > oldest is 23 now - she was bipolar and ADHD - How I made if > through those >> > years >> > with insanity intact is beyond me! We do it though, becuase what > other >> > choice do with have, right? We cry, scream and kick along the > way, but we >> > make it >> > some how. >> > >> > Good luck and let us know how things go. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > In a message dated 10/17/2005 11:45:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >> > amboe16@y... writes: >> > Hi, >> > Thanks for the understanding. This is very hard dealing with all this >> > in the school system. I'm so stretched for time having 2 other >> > children and being single mom and working, it's just draining me >> > constantly worrying about what is going on with her in school. >> > >> > What did you mean tread carefully? about the 504 and iep? I don't >> > know anything about either one of these, can you recommend some >> > information I should look up? >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 Hi Kathy, Here's a link to finding charter schools in California. I don't think you have to go to one in your district. Let me know if the link doesn't work. I found it by doing a search on " California charter school " . http://profiles.cacharterschools.org/Action.Lasso?-Database=ProfilesSchools & -Lay\ out=Search & -Response=search.htm & -Show Charter schools are public schools, so they are free. Some are good; some aren't. Some aren't great academically, but are really good with students. The reverse is also true. If there are some close, you should be able to tour them and talk about what their philosophy is. Many do have a specific direction: Waldorf, high academics, working with ethnic groups, etc. Also, some private schools have good scholarships, although private doesn't make it necessarily any better. But just other thoughts. And one thing to let your daughter know, if it doesn't work out in a school change, she can always go back to the school she is in now. Since it is public, they have to take her back. -- Re: Re: Kathy - help me- >> >> >> > Hi Kathy - >> > >> > Don't have a lot of time right now, but what I mentioned about IEP > versus >> > 504 >> > - an IEP in my opinion holds the school more accountable - Is your >> > daughter >> > classified? With the Tourette's she can be classified OHI (Other > health >> > impaired) regardless of whether she has an actual identified learning >> > disability. >> > In my opinion, you'd probably be best served by having her > classified and >> > then >> > developing an IEP. A 504 would provide certain accomodations, but is >> > harder >> > to hold them (school) accountable with. >> > >> > I know it's hard and frustrating - I have three with various > " quirks. " >> > My >> > oldest is 23 now - she was bipolar and ADHD - How I made if > through those >> > years >> > with insanity intact is beyond me! We do it though, becuase what > other >> > choice do with have, right? We cry, scream and kick along the > way, but we >> > make it >> > some how. >> > >> > Good luck and let us know how things go. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > In a message dated 10/17/2005 11:45:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >> > amboe16@y... writes: >> > Hi, >> > Thanks for the understanding. This is very hard dealing with all this >> > in the school system. I'm so stretched for time having 2 other >> > children and being single mom and working, it's just draining me >> > constantly worrying about what is going on with her in school. >> > >> > What did you mean tread carefully? about the 504 and iep? I don't >> > know anything about either one of these, can you recommend some >> > information I should look up? >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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